1830 Samoa

[@LauFiu]

You Hella underrated

[@684virus]

Cel Fiu faafetai

[@babeydyne]

Divide and conquer is one of the adversary's greatest weapons. The enemy comes only to kill, steal, and destroy. You don't need books written by the slave masters to see that all the South Pacific Islanders traded amongst each other. All you have to do is listen to the language and hear and see that we have more in common than differences. Thanks for this interesting video.

[@684virus]

Victory in Jesus Christ my Lord. This book was written by Samoans.

[@babeydyne]

684virus, that's cool! To my shame, I don't know much about our story as they really didn't teach it in school. The only Samoan I was taught in elementary was the reading and writing. The comment about the history was a general statement. But now, I'd like to do some research of my own, thanks to your video! I vaguely know that one of my great grandmother was once one of the wives of one of these Malietoas. Fascinating! Thank you!

[@684virus]

Viia le Atua

[@mikelarry3545]

answer my question pls

[@MaluluKeleGuiSila]

If this type of teaching was done in Samoa back in the 80s and 90s, I would've learnt all of it and Aced my Samoan...lol

[@684virus]

Luke McCalister thanks for the compliment.

[@pagiafretton1086]

Our ancestors may have all gone but they will never be forgotten. Never trully miss them all.😔😔😔😔💔💔

[@684virus]

Amene

[@misatoshi07mohammed20]

Awesome video. But Malietoa Vainuupo was the one that accepted the LMS in Samoa in 1830.

[@rajadat4437]

Thank you for sharing. Breaks my heart to imagine how much fear and confusion our people have been through back in those days.

[@684virus]

RAJA DAT indeed.

[@jaxxi9422]

We werent scared losefo my ncestor and malitoa came together as samoa and fought back

[@raztahking]

That they did.. and WON

[@684virus]

I'm working on more historical videos. Any particular historical event anyone wants to collaborate on? I invite all to ask questions so we can all learn together.

[@sole56nz]

684virus ... This is beautiful work. I'm blind to the history, angry at the Family, humbled by the treatment of our bloodlines... Thank you for ur works in helping open communication in my history for a KiwiBorn-Samoan.

[@jamestaylor5695]

What about before 1830?

[@cameronleaana1153]

How the tatau was introduced to samoa some say Fiji but I believe from our American Samoan islands

[@gsmacc76]

Great presentation and great use of visual art to elaborate your timeline. Although we’re divided by paper and area codes, 🇼🇸and 🇦🇸 are one. E tasi lo ta aluga, e tasi fo’i lo ta ie afu. Mai le tai samasama se’i pa’ia le tai ula’ula.

[@patriciaaisea6587]

Beautifully illustrated💗 Thank you for sharing!

[@TheKingofjune]

I have a dream that one day will be together as one Samoa. Samoa ua tasi!

[@TimBrianTufuga]

Absolutely brilliant illustrative history of our ancestors. Malietoa Talavou is the ancestor of all the Tuiletufuga clan from Apia village they are all descendants from le Maota Pouesi mai Sapapali'i. Talavou is my fifth great grandfather on my mother's father side, my grandfather, Tauvae Tuiletufuga.

[@684virus]

Tim Brian Tufuga good history. Stay blessed.

[@684virus]

In one of the books I read there was mention of a Tuiletufuga banished to Saipan. Do you have anymore information on this?

[@sefoahsiu8524]

The book of MAU i bought in one of the apia bookshops document this history and the kiwis filthy actions during the spanish bird flu.

[@684virus]

Sefo ah siu I'll pick that up.

[@Crodie310]

Sefo ah siu elaborate on this history. I’m interested in learning about these things. I am from the us but Samoan and I don’t know the history of our people.

[@KAfa4Christalone]

Thank you for sharing. Great information about our Samoan history

[@sharkeisha2225]

A paramount chiefs status is equal to a european king. But This is the thing the palagi man used the world paramount high chief instead of KING because only the british monarch could use that. Which means that all the most high paramount chiefs are of royal status the one with the power of in samoa were of kings in that district or village and even sometimes the whole of samoa. which is what countries in africa do, they have many chiefs/kings for a village/tribe. Samoans use the world MATAI but that status should be higher than what it translates in english which is chief because samoans use MATAI as another name for god in the bible. These paramount chief titles or kings that came after TUI MANU'A are of royal status. A royal monarch or empire or kingdom starts of by power if you have power over people you then become the most highest and most powerful in that country, tribe or village and thats how all royal families have started is from power and war. So these paramount chiefs are kings some ruled over the whole of samoa and some ruled their district or village. So everyone needs to stop saying all who are not TUI are not royal status because you are misinformed and miseducated you need to study old books. The white man translated samoan words wrong.

[@684virus]

moesha pempengco nicely articulated view. What are the different levels of matai you understand and what do you suppose the proper equal translation should be?

[@torataulapapa4011]

moesha pempengco. The words " Paramount Chiefs " came about from missionaries, when they found out that "Matai Ali'i " were revered as Gods.. Christianity ain't have'n it.. There is but one God and they adamant he white... Why can't he be any other Color? PEACE ;)

[@SaSouljah]

K O what's the difference to a Samoan if Jesus was white or not they just wanted Samoans to believe in any coloured imaginary jesus

[@LauFiu]

Bruuuh .....lol🤣🤣🤣

[@cameronleaana1153]

On point uso

[@henerypasi7861]

That's good to see young ones .. studying the root-gen (gafa o aiga) or where they began. Elders back in old days. Or toeaiina I aso anamua "tuu taliga , teu I loto Ma mafaufau. Tala tuu a Le atunuu. Ma gafa o aiga." Before Europeans arrived then everything's written in papers, books, files. In modern days. Some of families ended in court hammering decisions. (Fanua Ma suafa) Because obviously some families misunderstanding about their roots generation. And some families still kept important documents from old days. Good on you young mate.

[@684virus]

Henerik Une Pasi thanks for your insight. Sadly if we don't start catching up with the times and technology- this may be the only way to learn and keep our history going.

[@Tokoa144]

Excellent video for all pacific peoples..

[@My2cents369]

Wow. Thank you for this content. Much needed.

[@ikickrocksi]

Always love learning about my Samoan history and culture. For me it’s interesting. I was born in Pago Pago. My Dad born in and from New Guinea. Mom from Hawaii. I’m ashkenazi Jew, Samoan, Hawaiian , Portuguese, Finnish …. Learning more history makes me realize the euro people really traveled EVERYWHERE 😂🙏🏽

[@JEB2024]

Thanks for sharing.

[@princejraxson469]

unsure but it was malietoa vainuupo accepted the LMS in 1830...this is what we learnt in aoga faifeau.

[@684virus]

Prince Jraxson can you cite a source. I used the book "Lagaga"... I can change it if you have a better written source.

[@princejraxson469]

Yes. The source i had this from was " tala faasolopito a samoa" the original manuscript printed by the early missionaries to the LMS church in Upolu. We learnt it in Sunday school.

[@princejraxson469]

Early missionaries means around the 1800s...their manuscript also details the 7 feet and 8 feet samoans average in height before colonisation.

[@684virus]

Can't seem to find a copy of this - do you have one I can borrow?

[@tupuivaoulualofaigaotto6447]

Faaluaina le finagalo Prince

[@d.t.3538]

My favorite quote: Uo i aso uma....uso i aso vale. Thank you!!

[@tupuivaoulualofaigaotto6447]

Beautifully put together

[@684virus]

Faiga Oto faafetai lava.

[@31stCenturySamoan]

Nice video but some facts in the beginning are misleading.

[@684virus]

Aaron Taouma pls let me know what facts and what the truth is. I can change it if you provide a better source. I got it directly from "Lagaga".

[@31stCenturySamoan]

I didn't see the other comment.

[@OLOLAK_7777]

Is Lagaga a book?? Sorry to offend!

[@684virus]

GetOutoFHere Mate! Yes Lagaga is a book.

[@kalevepilikaki4054]

Thanks for the timeline. Samoa mo Samoa. Alofa atu.

[@amilee56]

Do y'all have anything on Mauga Moimoi? He was my great-great grandfather and I know he played a large part in the Deed of Succession in Am. Samoa. I would love to know more about my ancestors.

[@684virus]

Mandy Foalima sadly these are not my accounts but a version of history as it is written in Lagaga.

[@bjwilson8531]

This was an interesting video thanks for sharing

[@684virus]

BJ Wilson faafetai

[@GIDEON144PUNI]

Beautiful!

[@684virus]

Sailele Puni faafetai.

[@kalamelic]

The history of Samoa is not really clear. Various versions during the time the 3 major powers occupied - Germany, America & the British. Sad that history wasn’t taught in schools back in days. Robert Louis Stevenson was big at school in my days

[@garyking7959]

What is the Wendt book you based part of this on? Thank you for the video, really well done. Soifua manuia.

[@684virus]

It’s a book by Malama Meleisea, Lagaga

[@th3lastpr1nce87]

So wait the very beginning you showed first brother malietoa gatuitasina died Oct 1st 1858 and his brother died in 1841?

[@684virus]

The Last Pr1nce it’s straight from the book Lagaga. I didn’t change any of it, just put it in a way I could understand it better then shared.

[@th3lastpr1nce87]

@@684virus ook I was just confused

[@sosene]

Malietoa wasn't exiled! There's a song about those who were exiled..who wrote lalaga?

[@684virus]

It is as it’s written.

[@King_2ya]

Williams arrived in 1830 but it was Vainuupo who accepted Christianity not Moli, it seems you've drawn the link from Moli to Williams when it was actually Vainuupo who accepted it after he lead his district Tuamasaga the island of Manono & Safotu and defeated the A'ana district in what was arguably Samoas last great War before the palagi super powers arrived. Williams waited 3 days while Malietoa Vainuupo and his war party were burning A'ana survivors alive in a big pitt in Fasito'o.

[@684virus]

Chris T Tuia what's your source?

[@King_2ya]

684virus a good friend of mine Malietau Malietoa, his grandfather is Malietoa Tanumafili II, his father Papali'i Molio'o Laupepa Malietoa passed away in 1985.

[@King_2ya]

684virus also check out this link... members.iinet.net.au/~royalty/states/oceania/malietoa.html

[@684virus]

Chris T Tuia faafetai uso. I will adjust it accordingly.

[@sefoahsiu8524]

Aana didnt deserve at least their remnants of their past that still exist.

[@alesanaliloal]

I think there's a mistake. How could Malietoa have succeeded his brother after 1858 when he died in 1841? According to your illustration

[@slicksamoan2494]

I just realised im European samoan

[@silverback1243]

I'm wanting to know about samoa before colonialism. Why is this knowledge hard to find?

[@684virus]

Silver Back it’s either written in Samoan or verbally passed down.

[@falanikorobertson9409]

Most were destroy by the British some we're pass down to the main heritage but the samoan government won't accepted because they didn't want the malietoa family to claim back there titles instead they gave them the title of governor

[@danaitutaki8340]

Mālietoa was constantly defeated by Tamasese even with foreign powers beside him

[@alamai7799]

Out of 17 people in charge of guarding sacred history of Samoa, all except 5 died from the influenza disease. They tried to wipe all our leaders out and kill majority of Samoans. King Malietoa agreed to join Hawaii to create a Polyneasian confederacy. King Kalakaua sent a ship Kaimiloa into Apia harbour with the diplomatic mission to form a Polyneasian confederacy with Samoa & Tonga as they were the only 3 sovereign nations left in the pacific. The 3 coward empires accused King Kalakaua of meddling in Samoan affairs. To make sure no confederacy could be formed they held a meeting and conspired to annex Samoa, they betrayed Samoans by saying the war was over and to turn in their weapons, after disarming Samoa, they annexed Samoa and here we have the Berlin treaty agreement, allocating east Samoa to America west Samoa to the German and the German negotiated with the British to have Tonga and other islands because they lost so many soldiers in west Samoa. The main threat discussed between the 3 coward empires is to never allow Mata'afa to become King, an American in charge called Mata'afa the Samoan Washington of DC, as his word held weight and majority of Samoa obeyed his command. These 3 coward empires join forces to try kill Mata'afa and his supporters, bombing from their ships like cowards, they bombed and emptied over a thousand shells into villages, used their machine guns to spray villages with bullets, kill innocent women and children, even the mangled bodies of our young children trying to crawl to safety on the sand did not stop these devils from murdering our people who's only crime was defending their own SOVEREIGN nation. There was no representative from Samoa during the Berlin treaty agreement because they had held our people hostage. They also came up with a good enough reason to annex Hawaii, all this so their true agenda to create a powerful navy force that they can control, that's why the Polyneasian confederacy history has been hidden and the truth about what really happened in Samoa was hidden as well.

[@alamai7799]

Also our true identity they tried to wipe out

[@twosevenfive.2651]

Them Savaii boys on IG brought me here.

[@stjosephwilliams]

Awesome history lesson, what year and how does that name Malietoa come about because you said Moli was like the 23rd Malietoa at 1858 which lead me think that title name dates back close to over a thousand years ago give or take ......... ?

[@avilik13]

From what I know the title Malietoa comes from when the Tongans who occupied Samoa were defeated and as they were leaving the Tuitoga Talaaifeii's parting words were, 'ua malie toa ua malie tau'.

[@684virus]

Thanks for answering that Avilik. I am simply putting out the history as it is written on open source books. I do not know the Malietoa genealogy and that type of information is normally closed to bloodlines only. Thanks for the comments.

[@tagaloasroyallinesheartofp3478]

avilik13 yep the king of tu'i tongas last words in their defeat were malietoa, malietau meaning (well fourt brave warriors) Thanking Tuna and Fata with their nephew ulumasina for a worthy Battle!!..*CLUBS*...Then Malieto Savea the younger brother of Tuna and Fata was the first to be given the title Malietoa!** it,s a beautiful history**

[@ainejohl_mks6007]

Yep.... that's also where the name Savea tu vae Lua came from

[@dingo_463]

Hi I read that Mataafa iosefa only fought beside the USA against Malietoa and the Germans ?

[@laupepaluteru9284]

The begin of this historical event is not right, it shows us, that the person who wrote this, try to mislead the audience. Everyone knows the history and the family tree of Aiga Samalietoa. Please, make it right.

[@684virus]

This is from the book “Lagaga”. I didn’t write it - I only put it in a format easy for everyone to understand. If you have a better source/information - send it to me to review.

[@JEB2024]

hmmm... interesting! Why did these countries want to rule these small islands in the first place?

[@jakzon06]

I edited your video with traditional Samoan songs

[@684virus]

jakzon T good stuff boss. Spread the history before we forget.

[@sole56nz]

Be mindful of copyright.

[@tt3mpire]

Share this to stui

[@NICKY2FRR]

Thank u

[@turongopaki5692]

Geramany 🇩🇪

[@elijahmaoate2534]

My ancestor is Lafala Mata'afa, Mata'afa Iosefo's sister

[@jotimanu]

Am Samoan💀

[@banjopotato2567]

Does the Malietoa still exist? How much power do they have compared to the Samoan Government?

[@684virus]

Banjo Potato yes - they take turns being heads of state.

[@ainejohl_mks6007]

Yes the Malietoa and all the other royal families of Samoa still exists as of today....but it's like their power from the past don't exist today

[@jaxxi9422]

This is wrong the americans and the brittish fought leving germany but they traded with us samoans for flax of umu to try they paid guitars and fish back tho germany was on my great great great great grand fathers side Mata afa losefo but when america wanted all of samoa germany and samoa made a plan Mata afa and malietoa came together with there people and said SE KEFE IA and fought back and won on a settlement on american samoa and german samoa uk decided not to grab some samoa hermany later gave there part of samoa to the native and my great great great great grandfather was leader again.

[@80gengi]

You called Malietoa king .pleas

[@684virus]

Gigi Tuani the book Lagaga called him that.

[@anthonyrose7103]

Se Ufa Gigi. Susu poki

[@luaggaopoa9912]

TUPUATAMASESE HE'S THE ONE WHO GOT SHAT TO FREEDOM FOR SAMOA. TAMASESE UE E LAU ILOA I LE MAUMAFAIGA MO SAMOA. DON'T CHANGE SOME OF THE HISTORY. MORE SAMOA.

[@684virus]

Luag Gaopoa Uso, o Tupuatamasese na maliu ina ua pa le faga taavili, lea na molimau ai le afafine o Felisi ile 1929. Ole talaaga lea ona tua atu ae le’i vaeluaina Samoa. No changes made here. Toa le mea, saili le atamai uso.

[@gsmacc76]

684virus Tupua Tamasese III is my great grandfather. Lagaga was also written by my uncle Leasiolagi Malama Meleisea. Great job on the presentation. Malo le saili’ili i mea lelei. Malo le faasoa. Tatala le mau aua tupulaga Samoa o lalovaoa. Momoli atu la’u faamalo ma le faafetai.

[@tolaiseve770]

@@gsmacc76 hmmm. No wonder why this history don't make sense, it was written by Malama who is full shit🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jirehfinau6579]

And who started the war?

[@payne8569]

america came and saved Samoa from Britain rule, and during ww2 when japan wanted to seize control over samoa and tonga in 1940s

[@alamai7799]

Got some links so we all can read how America saved Samoa from British or Japan ?

[@XIII5XIII]

Everything sounds nice and dandy but in Robert Louis Stevenson's book 8 years of trouble in samoa he says that Malietoa went to hawaii with 100 of his high cheifs to talk about what is mentioned in this video. One mistake makes me wonder if everything else is real. Im not saying anything bad here or hating, i just want the truth wether its bad or good but at least correct. Even the bible had been altered over time.

[@684virus]

S faafiti I don't have that book. Can you screenshot the page that's written on.

[@XIII5XIII]

684virus Re read the book again just now and you are right, kalakaua did visit. i thought it was the other way around because the book is somewhat hard to understand in some ways. keep up the good work 👍

[@684virus]

Glad this is helping raise discussions and research.

[@boomnationentertainment]

Who came up with this non sense?

[@684virus]

Nofoaiga Moliga it's from the book Lagaga. Samoan history is not nonsense. Learn it and some respect before you forget your roots.

[@malietoasamoa1301]

gee this is not nonsense you dumb fuck many Samoans died for my countries land so fuck up