1844 - 2300 day prophecy - Investigative Judgment - Part 4

[@DigitalPraise7]

"This,like many of Doug Batchelor's statements are stemmed from EGW, not from biblical text." Pastor Batchelor mentioned EGW only once but gave MANY Bible verses.

[@Edinaldo08]

According to the wikipedia Marx published "The communist Manifesto" in 1948, but in 1944 something perhaps more important occured with him: He met Engels in Paris. Why is that so important? Because he wasn't a communist until then. It was Engels and his then unpublished book "Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844" that convinced him to abandom the Hegelians.

[@sleanos]

@EricKia1000 You'll need to see part 3 of this video just prior to watching this to know that when he says 483 years he was speaking of the total time spoken in daniel of 69 weeks. He wasn't giving the total from 62 years. Listen to him closely again and watch the prior video. All about context right?

[@CervantHrt]

The Bible texts given in the video presentation makes the key points in this presentation very well. It is particularly noteworthy that at the start Pastor Batchelor spends a lot of time debunking the popular idea of wildly inserting a gap of undefined time into the 70 week timeline of Dan 9. Dan 9 starts with the 70 year timeline of Jeremiah. No "inserting undefined gaps of time" into Jeremiahs 70 years or Daniel's 70 weeks.

[@sleanos]

Read the book "1844 Made Simple". It deals in fairly plain language almost all the objections people have against the 1844 investigative judgment doctrine in a logical and biblical manner. A good reminder of the pattern of the OT sanctuary service is necessary too since it all points to the ministry/work of Jesus Christ.

[@Edinaldo08]

Darwing got the credit may be because he was a scientist but the whole idea of evolution was first published in 1844 by Robert Chambers in an anonymous book called "Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation" Lamarck wrote before that year but his idea is not evolution really, it's about espontaneous generation and was completely discredited by 1844. So, I think that one can say that this theory that drove so many to atheism was made public in 1844.

[@sleanos]

The sanctuary or temple in heaven is SYMBOLIC of the ministry of Jesus Christ. The OT sanctuary foreshadows the course of events in the ministry of Jesus Christ. The book of Hebrews makes this very clear. Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such a high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; Heb 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

[@sleanos]

@EricKia1000 welcome

[@sleanos]

You really should study up on the whole purpose of the Old Testament Sanctuary system. It was a teaching tool used by God for all that explained EVERY part of the plan of salvation and the work of the Messiah. God's will is made known through it and completely in Jesus Christ. The sanctuary service along with the OT Jewish feasts and the book of Danial serve as a prophetic roadmap in earth's history. What explanation/purpose can YOU give for the OT sanctuary?

[@sleanos]

"the Once and for all" is referring to the fact that Jesus's sacrifice was accepted. Another blood sacrifice is NOT needed. OT - the high priest consecrated the Holy of Holies with blood before then ministering in the Holy Place. The SAME happened with Christ. Daniel is full of warning of judgment. Laodicia MEANS "A JUDGING OF THE PEOPLE" and the Christian world in general acknowledges today is the time of Laodicia.

[@charmay600]

the time of the end

[@sleanos]

You'll need to study bible prophecy more in depth. Here is a whole series of indepth lessons for you to study this point out for yourself and determine if it is biblical or not. God bless, tinyurl(DOT)com/bo9elt Replace (DOT) with a period Rea has proported a LOT of lies about the faith and what we believe and what can be proven historically also about the prophecy. His allegations against E.White have been disproven by a lawfirm years ago as well.

[@sleanos]

And please give a reason or rhyme, other than it was just an OT thing for the Jewish people. Or it was the Old Covenant and we're under the New. Vague statements like that won't cut it. God is specific in the Bible for a reason as should be Christians when giving answers.

[@sleanos]

Rev 22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. There either is a REAL throne in heaven or there isn't, or it's symbolic of God's presence there. Point is the sanctuary OT is used by God to ILLUSTRATE the ministry of Jesus Christ and the plan of salvation. You still gave NO explanation/purpose for the OT sanctuary in terms of it's purpose in the New Testament.

[@sleanos]

Wow. Your ignorance is astonishing. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? Prophecy in Daniel and Revelation pinpoint when the invetigative judgment takes place. Do a search: the bible speaks of judgment some 280+ plus times. Study the areas the specifically deal with bible prophecy: Daniel, Revelation. Paul CONTINUOUSLY speaks of judgment.

[@sleanos]

No offense, but you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. The concept of Investigative Judgment stems from the various Advent Reformers through lots of Bible study before it EVER made it into Great Controversy. Get you facts straight please. Next you'll say we believe in the Sabbath because Ellen White got hit in the head with a rock and had a vision. Atheist's must have a FIELD day with Christians such as yourself.