19 Reasons to Choose a Class C and not a Class A RV!

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@crankinhankin1826
@crankinhankin1826 2 жыл бұрын
Here is my tip... Learn to do your own RV maintenance and use a good car maintenance management program ( I use Automotive Wolf car care software ) to track and monitor it all. It also tracks all my parts, expenses and creates a detailed vehicle maintenance log. After RV'ing for over 10 years I've saved thousands by doing most of the maintenance myself and there is a lot of it on an RV! A small roof leak can cost you thousands in repairs so I check my roof at least twice a year. Keep on top of the maintenance and you'll save money and be RV'ing for years :)
@whiskeysun6703
@whiskeysun6703 Жыл бұрын
Great advice!! Thank you for the tips
@josephhicks6989
@josephhicks6989 7 жыл бұрын
Everybody is a critic, I'm on my second class A and I love it I would not switch to a class C. As far as the impact leave a lot of room between you and the car confront of you, drive it slower and safer and it is not a issue. To each is own
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect 7 жыл бұрын
My Aunt and Uncle bought a Class A and a tow vehicle. Mom and Dad bought a 4 wheel drive van and a Beach House. The Class A was always forced to stay in large RV parks where everyone is parked side by side. The Van could go anywhere. It could go to smaller campgrounds with shower houses and bathrooms. It could go into the wilderness with a collapsible shower/toilet house. It could also go to a nice hotel with the money saved on fuel alone. And in the end, it could park in front of a Beach House that appreciated several hundred thousand dollars, while the Class A depreciated several hundred thousand.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Spurious effect: Great, public bathouse, also seaching for a pay laundromat. Why do all that when everything you need is with you, a clean shower large enough for anyone. your own washer/dryer, large capacity holding tanks, and enough power reserves if you want to boondock. We could argue points all day long, it is still up to each individual/couple to decide which floorplan, class and price point works for them.. The idea that this works for me, so it is best for you is really archaic and presumptuous.
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect 7 жыл бұрын
Whatever works for you. Wasting assets, and by that I mean assets which do not appreciate, may not bother you in the slightest, but most people need to consider that.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
You minimalists and your militant attitude will do nothing but turn people off to your movement, which is something I can appreciate. But you constantly whine about wasted assets and won't even listen to or accept anyone else's view. My class A get's 10 - 12 mpg which is more then the 6 -8 that most V10's class C's get. Do some research before you try to force your opinion on someone or excuse me browbeat someone into accepting your opinion as fact........
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect 7 жыл бұрын
You are reading things into my comments that just aren't there. I even said "whatever works for you". I think you are just having a bad day. I hope you have a great day tomorrow. Enjoy your travels.
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect 7 жыл бұрын
I read back through my comments again, and I believe I see where we got off track. I believe you considered the term "wasting asset" to be something negative. Cars, television sets, refrigerators, anything that loses value over time is a wasting asset, but that doesn't mean we should never own those things. You should enjoy your class A. You worked hard for that.
@06ridgelineowner34
@06ridgelineowner34 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! I watched it last year before we bought our 32 foot class C. The cheaper cost of repairs is a BIG reason for getting a Class C. Yeah, that van front end sticking out of the front of your motorhome isn't sexy, but when we had an F0 tornado hit our RV storage lot and we lost a passenger window. We did not have to go to an expensive RV repair place ($150.00 an hour...ouch). We just called up Satellite auto glass and because the repair was less than our deductible we just paid out of pocket!
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 3 жыл бұрын
Do they make a class C that is 50amp with two ac units. One ac unit just isn't enough I've went and looked at about 3 class C now and I burnt up in them the whole time !
@twatson8812
@twatson8812 7 жыл бұрын
Class cs are just more pickup like in the the operation, maintenance and driving than the class a. The thing I like better about motorhomes than towables is we feel like the vacation starts when we load up to leave and everyone is already enjoying the rv already , the bathroom, fridge, sink, couch, beds etc. The towables you have to wait til you are stopped or set up to start using them.
@bestgeneration5468
@bestgeneration5468 5 жыл бұрын
This is the main reason why i did not go back to the towables
@06ridgelineowner34
@06ridgelineowner34 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The vacation really does begin once you hit the road. I also like that when we are taking off early in the morning are kids can just crawl into the bed and sleep as we begin our trip. Also, driving the Class C feels just like I am driving my Honda Ridgeline!
@David-im1fp
@David-im1fp 4 жыл бұрын
@@06ridgelineowner34 will the hangover above cab block some front view on the road? Can people sleep in bed when driving? Thanks
@sheldonduffy9442
@sheldonduffy9442 4 жыл бұрын
@@David-im1fp No, the overhang does not block the view of the road...it actually works like a sun visor (unless the sun is right in front of you). In addition, you are not supposed to have people sleep in the cab over while you drive ..but is it possible to have the kiddos stay in bed while you drive? Yes.
@essentially4u760
@essentially4u760 6 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video. We are in a 21 Ft travel trailer now, and just this week decided to start looking at motor homes. You gave me some things to think about. Please completely disregard the rude comments below. You were up front about everything, admitted you were also new to this, and I just love your personality! Keep it up!
@cubey
@cubey 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm buying what I'm telling you not to buy"
@jesseopdahl8258
@jesseopdahl8258 Жыл бұрын
Weird telling us to buy class C when buying class A…. Wonder if he voted for Biden?
@cubey
@cubey Жыл бұрын
@@jesseopdahl8258 I bet you're fun at parties. You could probably find a way to say that the host of the party votes a certain way because they served onion dip instead of cheese dip.
@sew_gal7340
@sew_gal7340 8 ай бұрын
​@@cubey Why are people fun or not fun at parties because they have a differing opinion? And why does everyone need to be the fun person at a party?
@sidabraham7131
@sidabraham7131 26 күн бұрын
​@@jesseopdahl8258. Typical MAGA Nation minions: toxic, condescending, vindictive & insufferable bigots. I digress. I still stick with class A. Thank you very much 😊..
@sidabraham7131
@sidabraham7131 26 күн бұрын
​@@jesseopdahl8258Typical MAGA. Class A, all the way.
@leecox1513
@leecox1513 6 жыл бұрын
Add this: I just purchased a Class C after having owned a Class A. I found that the C was easier to keep centered in the road than with the A. It might have had something to do with the fact that driving a Class C was like driving a car, and for some reason, my eyes found it far more difficult to keep the Class A centered.....might have had something to do with depth perception differences. In any case, the Class C was a breeze to keep the vehicle in the center of the road.
@finleyeugene6586
@finleyeugene6586 3 жыл бұрын
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@marcelobishop293
@marcelobishop293 3 жыл бұрын
@Finley Eugene meh I use flixportal. just search on google for it :D -marcelo
@finleyeugene6586
@finleyeugene6586 3 жыл бұрын
@Marcelo Bishop Thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I appreciate it!
@marcelobishop293
@marcelobishop293 3 жыл бұрын
@Finley Eugene glad I could help :)
@sbfhawk4343
@sbfhawk4343 8 жыл бұрын
I have a class A and I love the room and the space and I bought the Gasoline 8.1 Workhorse model. So far its been great. I have learned a lot about RVs and I do my own Generator maintenance. So far best experience I have ever had. Although I have suggested to others buying Motorhomes to look into the Class C with the pop outs. It seems that the class C can be parked just about anywhere. Parking my Class A it takes some skill levels and you will always be looking for room to fit between those tight spaces.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
I have been a FT for 2 yrs now, I have a Newmar Mountain Aire DP 42'. I have a toad, what I don't understand is why anyone would put themselves in a situation where they have to fit a class A MH (30' +) into a tight parking spot. my MH is docked and I take my toad wherever I want to go (shopping, restaurant, or just discovering the new territory). I have had no accidents, no body damage and I drive back to a docked MH and relax or sleep until it is time to hit the road. Ppl make it so hard on themselves........
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts Hey maybe I should know this but what is, a toad? Is that code for, a towable car?
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Saving Aidan Actually you are right a toad is what we called a towed vehicle. I nicknamed my toad Kermit. LOL
@roadster2776
@roadster2776 7 жыл бұрын
toad is a towed behind vehicle to get around after parking the home
@ZeroJizzMaster
@ZeroJizzMaster 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought a class A. I just upgraded from a travel trailer (nomad skyline.) I have lived in the last one for almost two years. Great living for stashing money. This video seems to be more for the seasonal vacationer vs those who are living full time in their RV. Buying used is the route I went and not a bad way to go. Maintenance is always key to expanding the life of your rv.
@jt8470
@jt8470 7 жыл бұрын
Eh, I got quite a few years experience on this fine young lad. I started out in 1 man pup tent, then the 8 person stand up tent, (I still own a tent that attaches to the back of an SUV even though I've only used it once in 8 years) then on to pop ups, then to travel trailers, then Class C and finally Class A's. EVERY step was a step up for a plethora of reasons. I even started out dead set against slide outs and now I have 3. :) I have a motorcycle / scooter carrier for non towing trips and I have 2 different trailers depending on if it's a motorcycle, car, or motorcycle - golf cart trip. But, once again, it's every man for himself and whatever suits you. I know I am never planning on "un-climbing" this ladder.
@alexalexandro6862
@alexalexandro6862 8 жыл бұрын
1st time RV buyer...Bought a New 2015 Thor Class C 31W at the Tampa RV Super Show.... Had a few minor issues Thor took care of everthing with no problems. Good Quality & Price Point. We have had it now 20 months. We Love it & at some point will buy another Thor Class A 37ft....Retired in Florida
@2673069
@2673069 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for your research and comments. Some people don't think about these points when buying and that when driving some class A RV the driver sits in front or over the steering wheels.
@kevinhornbuckle
@kevinhornbuckle 7 жыл бұрын
This is a valuable discussion. I'm convinced that a commercial duty truck chassis (medium duty) is the best foundation for a class C. Custom building your own floor plan with quality appliances and finishes is just unbeatable. Then you still have the towing capacity.
@skooterfd
@skooterfd 7 жыл бұрын
With a diesel pusher, you can usually find a semi-truck repair shop that can handle the repair as the engines are often the same! As for getting ripped off it always helps to do your research and know your vehicle. Calling the manufacturer can also help in a lot of the cases!
@richardcollins3103
@richardcollins3103 7 жыл бұрын
I do not recommend buying one, I am buying one.......
@contactATashleygriffin
@contactATashleygriffin 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i can totally understand this mentality NOT... "lit me list all the bad things with this, is sooooo bad, soo i'm buying one !!!!!!!!"
@shanesparby7580
@shanesparby7580 6 жыл бұрын
Dumbass
@clintskywood4466
@clintskywood4466 6 жыл бұрын
When did he say I do not recommend buying a Class A? He is only listing reasons he found in his research why some people might not want to. I'm still trying to figure out what class I want and this was helpful to me but your comment was not.
@pmlonline
@pmlonline 6 жыл бұрын
Sigh. You can't figure it out? He's giving the advantages of Class C over A, but he even said he has another video that goes over advantages of Class A over C. What you should get depends entirely on your needs, which varies from person to person.
@Toltecgrl
@Toltecgrl 6 жыл бұрын
@@clintskywood4466 this was helpful for me as well. Because I am also trying to decide
@kennymartin7112
@kennymartin7112 7 жыл бұрын
Very good points. I am new to RV's too. Looked at them my whole life though because they have always been a dream of mine. I love the way you did your research. I was told the same about the Class C but have been finding problems with the Class C workmanship. A, if you have a pusher, they don't need to go into your RV.
@glb6
@glb6 7 жыл бұрын
I have a class c on the Sprinter chassis. it's 25ft. with 2 slideouts. We love it! It''s diesel and gets 16-18mpg. Pulls a car with no problem.
@1PastorMike
@1PastorMike 7 жыл бұрын
For those who are complaining that he loses credibility when he is planning to buy a class A; he made it pretty clear up front, and at the end, tjat recognises there are good reasons to choose the class A as well. As I am in the beginning stages of deciding on an RV design for retirement, I find videos like this quite helpful. I watch a lot of them, what he has to say is generally pretty consistent with what others have said.
@donmcneil4679
@donmcneil4679 6 жыл бұрын
Simply look for Quality. It's out there My Friend. Been RV-ING for about 50 years. 6 years ago We made a Great Deal on a seldom used Class A Motor home. Google up TREX Motor Homes. We don't have a Bedroom that saves Us 8 to 10 feet of length. We're 28' long rather than 38. Easier to Park and Drive. Depending on Highway driving or City Driving Our Honest Millage is as low as 7.5 Mpg and up to 10 Mpg on the Highway. Mind Ya We have Big Mountains to deal with here in Alaska. like to help Ya out if Questions should arise. Be Well. P.S. Our Bed comes down from the Ceiling.
@shelleyhansen5206
@shelleyhansen5206 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto that Michael!
@lindalai9092
@lindalai9092 5 жыл бұрын
@@donmcneil4679 eeewww
@skpjoecoursegold366
@skpjoecoursegold366 8 жыл бұрын
a chose a Class C for some of the reasons you mentioned. i considered all types of RVs. i travel solo, so the choice i made was just for me. no dogs, cats or females. my biggest reason for wanting a C was the over the cab sun protection, i hate the sun beating down on me while driving, i'm 90 percent protected.
@Improvephotographycom
@Improvephotographycom 8 жыл бұрын
Good point. That's a nice benefit.
@maestrod.capella3621
@maestrod.capella3621 8 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a Chevy class C Fleetwood. I prefer to maintain a Chevy 350 engine with a well built frame that I'm remodeling and reinforcing.
@hayesman76
@hayesman76 5 жыл бұрын
I might lean more towards a trailer but the thought of constantly having to hook-up and unhook the trailer from the tow vehicle is a complete turn-off for me. Hopefully someday new simpler, faster and less stress-inducing ways of hooking-up trailers and tow vehicles will be invented.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
after reading all the comments, I stand by my statement, that each individual has different needs and wants. Everyone has to make up their own mind as to which class and make and model bests suits the functionality they need, amenities they want, and fits within their budget..... so once again these videos may give you some insight, but you still have to do your own research and make your own decision...
@hamogurl1266
@hamogurl1266 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts AMEN!! We have done research for ours and practice living in them before we went full time. Class A 2016 Fleetwood Bounder has and still works very well for us. Of course we budget everything and we fix our own repairs which is why we are saving a lot of money on it lol.
@pmlonline
@pmlonline 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly! He even said that he has another video the goes over the advantages of Class A over C. There is no better type. It depends on what you want. Personally I'd never want to drive around in a monster Class A. Maybe a very small Class A. I prefer a Class C. And the 5th wheel is not an option because it's illegal to have people and pets in it while driving. I don't have the heart to force my pets to sit in a back seat all day when I could get a Class C or A.
@Tomatohater64
@Tomatohater64 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Price always seems to be the deciding factor. At 500,000 - 3 million, class A coaches are big, big money. I'll still take a class A. My favorite is the Newmar London Aire.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 4 жыл бұрын
@@pmlonline Paul what do you consider a monster? Class A's come in sizes from 32' to 45', there are "short buses, that are 32' to 35' in length, and not as tall as the big boys. If you don't like class A's that's fine. But just in case you didn't know Powerhouse is a co in UT that makes class C's (Super C's) in lengths up to 52' You can go to www.powerhousecoach.com and check them out. And please stop using phrases like "big ol" and "monster" because you are misleading others. Even 5th wheels come in 60' lengths and class A's are limited to 45'.
@CalBoomer1
@CalBoomer1 8 жыл бұрын
The door on the drivers side, is a "fire safety" plus ! It's really a good deal if that vehicle catches fire. Front-end collision - you are right there as well. Your analogies are "right on" !
@edbreyette7190
@edbreyette7190 6 жыл бұрын
class a windshield/view is priceless. 8hrs riding in my living room versus a van? no brainer.
@AuRowe
@AuRowe 5 жыл бұрын
Ed Breyette my sentiments exactly!!! Mpg is barely different
@RedRider1600
@RedRider1600 5 жыл бұрын
What's it cost to replace that windshield? It must get hit a lot. The biggest thing I don't like about class-A's is the 1 in and out entrance, no driver's side door.
@J1978watt
@J1978watt 5 жыл бұрын
RedRider1600 my class A has a driver side door
@RedRider1600
@RedRider1600 5 жыл бұрын
@@J1978watt Really? Who makes it?
@J1978watt
@J1978watt 5 жыл бұрын
RedRider1600 it’s a 2000 fleetwood pace arrow
@williamlarson3623
@williamlarson3623 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. My folks had a Class C, which was really sweet to drive, although cramped for living space. So now thinking of getting a Class A for myself (just myself) - all because of the enclosed cab and that extra room that comes with it, AND THOSE WONDERFUL AMENITIES, too. Want to actually LIVE one day in this thing on some land I own, while also having the advantage of traveling around as I want, or to refill the tanks and dump them -- without having to 'trailer' anything around in doing so. Mea culpa.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, look at the RV's build, the construction, don't get blinded by all the bling and you'll get a good buy, one that won't cost both arms and a leg in maintenance/repair costs.
@paparant7205
@paparant7205 7 жыл бұрын
We have a 35-foot class A and we are planning to trade it for a Travel Trailer. Why? Too noisy inside at highway speeds. The V-10 engine sits right between the front seats and lots of noise penetrates the engine cover. Almost impossible to hold a conversation. A pusher Class A would not hve this problem but they cost a fortune. It's like driving a HOUSE. Yes it is hard to cool the coach with the chassis AC. Good if it has a real door to close off the back half. A wreck can be real bad because stuff from all the cabinets can pummell you. Often need to tow a car so you can see sights near your campground. So anyway we are switching to a SUV pulling a travel trailer.
@GirlArmy21
@GirlArmy21 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting points to consider for sure. I have a Class B XL right now converted into a little mobile salon business. I want to upgrade to something bigger next year...I am going to look at an RV with toy hauler back...so I have a comfortable place to rest and spend the night....and a permanent spot to set up my business in the bay area....separate door entrance for clients....I did want a Class A, originally, but you have definitely mentioned things I didn't even consider before. Thanks so much. XO
@summerstardust2064
@summerstardust2064 7 жыл бұрын
I loved my Class A! It was total fun. Took me about a week of driving and it was just about as comfortable to drive as my trucks. It's just like driving down the road in your living room. Enjoy.
@bkf3857
@bkf3857 7 жыл бұрын
No airbags in a Class A?! I had no idea! WOW! Thanks for the review! I am thinking of buying the Ford Transit Coachmen Orion 21RS. Small RV with tons of features. Congrats of your RV purchase.
@timtom4920
@timtom4920 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, we could not disagree more. We have experience with both A-class and C-class motorhomes, and for my family the A-class is the clear winner. Here's the reality.... you have a choice between a LIGHT-DUTY VAN CHASSIS (C-class) or a MEDIUM-DUTY TRUCK CHASSIS (A-class). The light-duty chassis weight rating gets maxed out when mated with a large motorhome. The medium-duty chassis is well within it's comfort zone for this kind of load. The A-class motorhomes have higher Gross Vehicle Weight Ratings, BIGGER BRAKES, LARGER WHEELS, STRONGER FRAME. The advantage of having airbags in a C-class brings me little comfort. It's still a light-duty VAN, and you've literally added tons of weight behind it!!! How is that going to work out in a crash? If I'm going to get in an accident in a motorhome, I want the girth of medium-duty all the way. A-class are no more difficult to drive than a C-class, as they really aren't much larger. In fact, with the improved visibility, I think the A-class is a bit easier. Not to mention.... the panoramic windshield makes the drive so much more enjoyable than the feeling we get stuffed into a van front-end. That's our two cents.
@hottubmobileneil
@hottubmobileneil 6 жыл бұрын
I am not Neil , overall I think my RV has payer for it self many times as I purchased it for $500.00 , if I was in a hotel instead that money would be spent in a few days in comparison with nothing owned at the end .and it has given me a peace of mind having shelter when I have little money . I love it ,. Having it for storage is great too as I would rather store my stuff that way because you have the option of a kitchen and when ya move you do not need to rent a truck and ya can't beat the privacy . happy trails.
@NomadicDave2032
@NomadicDave2032 8 жыл бұрын
I myself am between the two, class c is sounding more convenient in many ways including maintenance in my own research. As a single man I love my space but a huge class a as much as I love their looks and size isnt practical, though if I had money to burn why not. I am leaning towards class c...some VERY nice ones around these day's with space to spare. Great video.
@steamyb2
@steamyb2 8 жыл бұрын
I bought a 30' Class A because it felt right. I also like being able to level it from the drivers seat. I don't like climbing into a bed at my age of 65, I usually just fall into bed (not out of it). Any kid that jumps in front of my RV had big problems before I hit them, so I don't worry about the area right in front. I do like being up high enough to see troubles way on down the road before I am involved. I asked my wife what was her main consideration in an RV and she said 'the bath room'. We rented a Class C before we bought the Class A, and when I used the bath room in the Class C, I could not pull my pants up without hitting my head on the door. The Class A has more than enough room to 'take care of business' without lumps on my head. My older model ('98) Class A was surprisingly cheap and I have done quite a bit to modernize it. The new ones are stupid expensive, and for first time buyers like me, I wanted to make sure two old folks could do this. We will be full-time in December!
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
Newer C's, Super C's and even some B's & B+'s have auto leveling jacks now...
@GDMHificationranpitc
@GDMHificationranpitc 7 жыл бұрын
hi, how did you modernized it?
@wendyannh
@wendyannh 7 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on not wanting to climb into a bed like Class Cs have! Age here, too (and disabilities) - plus it's just plain a pain to make a bed you can barely reach. For me, having that would be a total waste of space I could never justify.
@BrayzenYT
@BrayzenYT 6 жыл бұрын
Almost every class C has a bed in the rear. Many times, like in my 2005 Fleetwood Tioga 29V, there is a bed in the back in addition to the bed over the cab, which is great for kids and storage.
@gildapeterson7459
@gildapeterson7459 6 жыл бұрын
My 2001 Jayco Eagle has walk around queen bed, HWH Levelers, 5'x8' Bathroom area... room for 5 people. haha. Room in the shower for 2 (gotta save water, right!). It's not the class so much as the design/layout. Also have a basement for hauling tables, chairs, tools, and whatever else we need trying to keep weight in mind.
@TumbleweedRvLife
@TumbleweedRvLife 3 жыл бұрын
We are truck camper people and if we were to do it again, we would seriously look at expedition box on a F550 4x4. You are right Class C is such a better choice if you travel a lot moving all the time and fuel savings will now become very significant. Christian
@TheTruthHurtsBIG
@TheTruthHurtsBIG 5 жыл бұрын
Class A will give you more room, better view, more storage, cab area become part of living area, easier to leave the cockpit, and depending on which class A you get (winnebago) you have a steel structure around you.
@ronque23
@ronque23 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks! I’ve seen class A’s as short as 28’. I think the mini airstreams motorhomes are about that long. I personally love Super C’s
@brianvandy4002
@brianvandy4002 2 жыл бұрын
Engine access thoughts: In many modern "trucks" a lot of maintenance or engine repair actually require the mechanics take the cab of the truck off. You can't really do that in a Class-C. Just something to think about.
@enna4986
@enna4986 6 жыл бұрын
Bought a five year old 32 foot class A so saved a bunch of money. That was 14 years ago. Never had any substantial problems or significant expenses, except when we had a blow out because the tires were very worn. Love being all together in there while traveling, and as far as noise, just insulate the cab. Like everything else in life, it's just a matter of choice and personal need. We really enjoy our RV and are choosing to remodel rather than buy a class B or C.
@bobbiemayer4343
@bobbiemayer4343 7 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I haven't decided on the Class I want and this information was helpful. I've heard pros and cons on both. Class C I'm told, is noisy and rough riding, while the Class A is expensive when it comes to service. I'm more interested in dependability. Looking forward to your next video.
@rodolfoissac
@rodolfoissac 7 жыл бұрын
Great points, you are new, so are we at 50. we are. About doors, we made sure we got an class a with a door on the driver side. We went class a. we have one child left. about front accidents. we are high for impact, You brought out many good points. We were going to get a class C. But we are going all out and living the RV. lIfe. Thank you. Still learning. Rudy.
@jpulley
@jpulley Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video and I just couldn't shake the feeling that I was somehow familiar with this guy. Then it finally hit me, this is Jim Harmer. I use to listen him on the improve photography podcast. I never knew what he looked like. Good video!
@jmsfabrication7821
@jmsfabrication7821 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with some of those arguments/observations, but the biggest (both ways) is basically the deal you can get. I cannot afford a new anything. We bought our class A (an "older" class A) because it was in really good shape, what we wanted, and I thought we got a great deal on it.
@DLeske
@DLeske 4 жыл бұрын
After owning and living for 2 years in a 36ft 2002 new 5th wheel, plus a huge trailer and later a 2006 class C.. and now a 33ft 2018 class A diesel pusher and so far its easy to drive and we like it just fine, pulling a 2019 Jeep Wrangler.
@bradleysonthemove5790
@bradleysonthemove5790 8 жыл бұрын
Good points! But, you forgot to mention one: Class As allow for more cargo space and weight.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
if that is one of the main reasons for buying a Class "A", then check the super C's,That is a "C" on a freightliner or spartan chasis, they used to be called diesel Pullers. Similar price point to class A, but you have the added safety of a big diesel engine, frame, and wheels out in front of you. You can get them as utilitarian or as luxurious as your budget can handle.
@bradleysonthemove5790
@bradleysonthemove5790 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right, Rory ... but fueling that baby would be expensive! GVWR of 22-26k is good enough for me ;)
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
That may be true, but the additional towing power and torque which keeps you from "whiteknuckling" it coming down a Long grade is worth it to me. Plus the additional distance you can travel between fillups, and it evens out in the long run. If you are not familiar with some of the long declines in Az, Co, Id, Wa, and even Ca and Or, try just one some day in a gas coach, and feel those muscles clench. Then tell me then if it might not be worth it....
@bradleysonthemove5790
@bradleysonthemove5790 8 жыл бұрын
So I've heard .. but we east coast dwellers either don't have or can avoid such monstrous elevation .. my travels to those areas you speak of will probably be by other modes ..
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize you were East Coast-ers, and you do have some of the grades I spoke of, in the smokies. But everyone has to make their own choices, that was the point I was trying to make. I have items on my bucket list which include traveling in my RV to all lower 48 states, Alaska, and 4 Canadian provinces. Everytime I complete one item I add 2 more so my list will never be completed and I will live forever (or pass away happy). So far I have visited 22 states, and I still haven't seen everything there is to see in those states. Here's wishing you guys happy wanderings, and keep that tank full.......
@LargeEventPlanner
@LargeEventPlanner 7 жыл бұрын
We have owned every type of camping RV except a pop-up and frankly my favorite is still our 5th Wheel. Our motorhomes were okay but they lacked the storage and roominess found in out 5th wheel. Pulling the 5th wheel was easy too. We are between RVs, and my husband and I both agree we would go back to a 5th wheel for full timing or long excursions.
@mikejaques6573
@mikejaques6573 7 жыл бұрын
THis is a good video and some really good points. One thing though, I traveled a lot and I didn't see any more RVs broke down vs other vehicles. the most common ones would be cars there ar e so many more of them on the road. Buses I don't see really see too many but see a lot more semis broke down they are the most common on the interstates. I have seen two motorhomes broke down in the last 5 years WAY less than semis and I travel on the snow bird routes I-44 I75 ETC. the best way to NOT break down is to LEARN how to properly maintain your motorhome. I have a class A dodge AVCO all steel tubing and fiberglass body on an international frame under the Dodge name with the 440. I am taking it over Monday to get it all rewired and all checked out. If you do that you will not be stranded anymore than driving any other vehicle. I have seen two buses broke down on the highway one was due to low water it had a safety to shut down the engine and the other was an air brake problem. I have buses a Van Hool an old Greyhound and a GMC RTS . I was stranded on the highway in Wyo. couldn't build up air past 60 a new air compressor was the fix. SO my whole point is. Don't scare people with the (RVs break down all the time) that is simply NOT true.. anything can break down not just RVs. Semis as I said are the most common.
@mrfixit0067
@mrfixit0067 3 жыл бұрын
The big reasons for our choosing of a class c are: Doors for the passenger and driver is so convenient especially with are dog platform in front for our pet. The second reason is class c are generally not as high as class a and if you travel on back roads a lot it is no problem getting under some of the lower overpasses! That's all folks!
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 3 жыл бұрын
Do they make a Class C that has 2 acs with 50amp power? I don't see how anyone stays in a class C with just 1 ac .. it gets so hot
@plumbingstuffinoregon2471
@plumbingstuffinoregon2471 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 1975 Dodge Titan class a motorhome and I LOVE that thing, the one bad thing is the fact that it only gets 7 to 10 miles to the gallon, other than that and that I occasionally have to fix stuff, it's great
@Allegronaut
@Allegronaut 7 жыл бұрын
The class A is going to much more comfortable, and will usually ride much better than a C, also they usually have bigger gas tanks. I love my 34ft gas engine class A, it has a 100 gallon gas tank, gets 10 miles per gallon a an average speed of 65, and it's super comfortable.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Then you should drive a comparable Class A DP....... Just for comparison...
@ArthurBrinkman-c5z
@ArthurBrinkman-c5z 4 жыл бұрын
And a lot more storage, i live I a Gulf Stream Hi Rise, it has a huge basement under it. 36 ft gasser. I get 9-10 mpg and across Kansas I can get up to 12 since it's flat.
@henryzabel1746
@henryzabel1746 7 жыл бұрын
I have only been RVing 13 years and spent the first 9 in a class C while towing a car . That was my "learner' M/H and it taught me a whole bunch about what I thought I wanted and needed . Our second M/H is a class B and have been very happy . It is only 19' and fits in a normal parking spot . The ride and handling is far better and I do not have to drag a car along . Normally it is just Granma and Grandpa and often one Grandchild . Our old class C got between 7-9 MPG with a 35 gallon tank and our newer class B gets between 14 - 17 MPG with a 35 gallon tank . Used to be I started looking for a gas station around 120-140 miles , now 350-400 miles . I have never had the desire to own and or drive a class A . Some are made well , but the entry fee for a well built one is just too far out of our financial plan . People always tell me "you should have bought a new class C instead of a class B " . We have an older Roadtrek and could not be happier . Of corse it depends on how many people you need to haul and or sleep and what you wish to do with your RV . I think class B are about as safe a rig as you can get , as long as manufacturer starts with a passenger van . Older class C need to be checked out if buying used , water leaks are a very common problem . I used to be a fireman and you would not believe how most class C and many class A literally fly apart in even a fairly mild collision . The cabinets often break lose and try to exit through the windshield on a moderate front end impact . Many class A that sell from about $300,000 and up are built much better than the "starter" class A's .
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 3 жыл бұрын
Do they even make a class C that is 50amp power with two ac units , one ac unit in them class C's just isn't enough to keep you cool it's to hot in them ..
@henryzabel1746
@henryzabel1746 3 жыл бұрын
@@davenstorm7271 I have never seen a class C with dual air , but there very well could be along with 50 AMP power .
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryzabel1746 I hear you how in the world did you stay cool in that thing I've looked at about 3 class Cs and I was burning up just being inside them for about 30 minutes . Thats crazy they don't make dual airs on these it's a shame
@cluuck4617
@cluuck4617 8 жыл бұрын
A class C is an extended cargo van with duels in the rear. A class A is a big box cargo truck frame setup loaded to the max. If you go with diesel class A now your talking freightliner air ride suspension, which is the best for ride and comfort.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
You get the same drive train combinations (Cummins/Allison) in HP ratings from 350 to 600, and torque ratings 750 to 2250, in a super "C" They are built on freightliner and Spartan chasis, which are the same chasis that eighteen wheelers are built on...They also have the same air suspension ride in most, and have the increased safety of having that big engine and frame in front of you. Yet they are easy to drive as an SUV.......
@rond361
@rond361 8 жыл бұрын
Most of the super Cs that I have seen are on a Freightliner, Volvo, or International chassis. I thought Spartan only made class A chassis. My Renegade is built on an International chassis has a 600 HP Cummins ISX-15L (912 cu in) and an 18 speed Eaton Ultra-Shift plus transmission. It also has International air ride suspension on all three axels. It has a 52,500 Lb. gross vehicle weight rating and 80,000 gross combined weight rating. It is 45ft. long 8.5 ft. wide and 12.5 ft. tall.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
There are options if you go to Showhauler, Haulmark, & Renegade. You choose the chasis you want and Spartan is one of the options, of course you do have to order it new.....
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
Some class A's, such as Newell and Foretravel, make their own chasis. Tiffin makes their own chasis for the Breeze (small class A - 28' -34'), other class A's get customized chasis made for them by Spartan and Freightliner. The only bus chasis currently in use are the Prevost and a Volvo bus chasis marketed by Prevost. Prevost is a Canadian company owned by Volvo. carch up or read up before you make statements like that.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
same as you soaringtractor, I have prejudices, and I don't count Ford or Chevy chasis (even though there are diesel) as Super "C's" they don't develop the HP or torque or have the suspension systems that the Freightliner, Spartan and Volvo chasis do. That is why I didn't mention them. Just being a diesel puller does not make them Super.
@steverusso5369
@steverusso5369 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video.... JIM !!! I just started looking and decided I wanted a Class C.. Right before I saw ur video; I started looking at the "supersized" Super Class C... lol.. a Class C is a "C".. Super A's next I guess? I Did not think about the safety factor to that depth or the mechanical breakdown factor (repair shops) as you did.. there more things you mentioned, but I need to take notes next time I listen to it.. Thank you.. great.
@svlayland
@svlayland 7 жыл бұрын
I have number 20 - what about not really needing to tow a car because you can get around in MOST places with your class C. On those occasions when we couldn't (Provincetown, MA), we just rented a car.
@alexstone1808
@alexstone1808 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a class A "RV. I'll drive a little more careful and since I won't be out there "Vin Dieseling"' it, I'll be OK.
@KenHudson
@KenHudson 8 жыл бұрын
One BIG advantage of a 5th wheel or trailer, is when you breakdown in the middle of no where, and this will happen way more often than you would think, and end up trying to live in a garage lot( or hotel room) for sometimes weeks at a time waiting your turn, at least you would have the motor and home separated. You can usually get the home into an RV park while waiting for repairs. Also finding a mechanic that will not rip you off, as happens way more than you think(they see an RV and assume the owner is rich...right?) in the small towns you end up in, is challenging. It is easier to find someone that will work on a truck, than an large class A RV. They are more difficult, and if you have a diesel, expect to pay way more for repairs. Finally, whichever you get, expect that this nomadic lifestyle will eventually become very stale after doing it for an average 5/7 years. I did this for about 5 years, it had it's good moments, also some incredible nightmares, I never realized, going into it, and most of the friends I made along the road back then, none are still doing it today. So take that, for what it is worth. At the very least, have an escape plan, to return to, when(not if) it no longer becomes all you thought it would be. Not trying to discourage you, I am glad I did it for a while, just trying to put the reality of what does happen, more into perspective for you.
@Improvephotographycom
@Improvephotographycom 8 жыл бұрын
We looked at a fifth wheel and I LOVE LOVE LOVE the floorplans but the problem for us is that we have 3 kids. If we have a fourth, we wouldn't fit in a truck.
@markloebig5632
@markloebig5632 8 жыл бұрын
good post.
@Pistolmike59
@Pistolmike59 8 жыл бұрын
You have the same benefit with a toad vehicle behind ab RV.
@KenHudson
@KenHudson 8 жыл бұрын
The benefit I was talking about was when a class A or C break down, you either have to find a place that will let you live in it in their parking lot or find a hotel room to wait out the repair. For me, in the past, several times it could take more than a week, in some of these small towns to get to that repair or get the parts. You can not sleep in your car for a week or more. In a 5th wheel or trailer, usually I was always able to get it into a campground, while the truck was being repaired. I started out with a class A, but after several years of having to live through breakdowns, I took the advice of an ol' timer back then, and switched to a 5th wheel. Trying to get a truck repaired, is WAY easier(and usually less expensive) than a big class A. At least, that was my experience. Just some advise, from another, (experienced) ol' timer, now.
@SUBtoMYChannelEvery1
@SUBtoMYChannelEvery1 8 жыл бұрын
+K. Bayquoi . What is your take on a class C with all the problems that you've faced? I'm trying to get an RV as my home and move out of my apartment. I'm still thinking about it because of the savings I'll get. And I know if I want to choose the nomadic life, I'll have to find an online source of income. I still don't know what that would be.
@rjahn3000
@rjahn3000 8 жыл бұрын
Class C has much less storage, and smaller water/black grey tanks. Class C does not typically have heated bays and pipes freeze if you are in a cold weather area.
@Pistolmike59
@Pistolmike59 8 жыл бұрын
Great points! Also some class A's have a steel cage built in the cab area (Winnebago)
@bluesharp59
@bluesharp59 6 жыл бұрын
Well I haven't owned an RV yet but I want to. I love the air streams, the big ones at 45 ft. Shiny polished aluminum. Getting back to your video now. Nothing beats a Class A Diesel Pusher. They Run Forever they are built strong and they ride smooth. They have slide outs to make it like your home. Big bathrooms big bedrooms. Class C to me that's just a camper on Wheels tight bathrooms not much room in the bedroom area. If I could afford it I'd go out and buy me a million-dollar motor coach from Marathon coaches. Happy travels everyone and be safe.
@TwoWheels47
@TwoWheels47 7 жыл бұрын
Very good points! And the fact that you own a class A makes it even more informative since you know what a class A has to offers. Tnx for the vid.
@justincase1898
@justincase1898 5 жыл бұрын
Class A's have coach edges... so they are rounded thats far more aerodynamic than a class c in a cross wind... at least the ones i was looking at but i really didn't ketch anything else i personally dont agree with other than the radiator (on my GS) being right in the way of everything my class A is really accible... but im not sure if everyone can just move there matress and climb on top the big guy... or pull the radiator and just walk up to it... GREAT VIDEO. Really enjoyed THANKS
@TripleBlack331
@TripleBlack331 7 жыл бұрын
Camper Report - totally appreciate your perspective. Thanks for the vid.
@drServitis
@drServitis 6 жыл бұрын
THIS GUY GIVES ME VIBES THAT TELL ME I COULD NEVER RELATE TO HIM AND HIS BACKGROUND, AND THAT I WOULD NEVER WANT TO EITHER. I NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH THE WAY HE ACTS WHERE I COME FROM, THAT'S FOR SURE.
@Expandacraftboats
@Expandacraftboats 6 жыл бұрын
If you are an RVer and like water toys or fishing boats, Look into Expandacraft, a modular watercraft that stores in small spaces and converts into all sorts of different craft. Oh, and we ship all over the world.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
In reading thru these comments, I notice that many are based on budget, looks, some on misinformation, some are based on personal preference,( what's good for me is good for you). There were some objective points made, but most were subjective. I still maintain that no one can make the decision for someone else. The decision on what class to buy, what size to buy, and what price point you should be looking at, is all based on personal needs, wants, preferences, and budget. I know it won't happen, but people should stop trying to tell everybody else, this is what you should buy. you could be telling someone who wants to fulltime with a family of 5, to buy a sprinter van (class B). It's hard enough for 2 people to be comfortable in 66 sq ft of space, much less 5. It would really be nice if everyone stated this is my preference and what I bought and here is why. That would be a lot more helpful to those trying to make a decision. They would be armed with facts, they could go to RV dealers and shows and know what to look for. Instead of being confused and misinformed by all the hard-core opinions they are forced to read thru.
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts Rory, I've been reading your comments & I agree whole heartedly. I just responded to a comenter from Canada making a similar point about people arguing if you don't 100% agree with there views. I've come to believe its, similar to a culture of online bullying. Also age, financial status, even country, & race. BUT...That is just "MY OPPINION" HA! ;-) Anyway you seem to have lots of info. would you be interested in a civilized dialog off YT, on the topic of RV'S?
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Aidan, but remeber any info I give youcomes from my perspective and may not work or be a fit for you.....
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts LOL I see the YT, negative Nellies have made you cautious. Don't worry. I'm a big girl. With a big brain, I can handle anyone with an opinion. Its No matter either way if I agree or disagree with the opinion. I would never allow my position(s) to be shifted without first educating myself, research, proof, & many other factors on a subject matter no single opinion differing or not would persuade me too do so in either direction. And even if I did it would be my decision, made by me. So, I don't mind a bit about not agreeing, hearing differing opinions & looking at other positions from a place or point of view that I otherwise would not be cognitive of. In my opinion that is how I believe people learn & grow. So, again. .. I repeat. I'm a big girl. No worries. :-)
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts LOL I see the YT, negative Nellies have made you cautious. Don't worry. I'm a big girl. With a big brain, I can handle anyone with an opinion. Its No matter either way if I agree or disagree with the opinion. I would never allow my position(s) to be shifted without first educating myself, research, proof, & many other factors on a subject matter no single opinion differing or not would persuade me too do so in either direction. And even if I did it would be my decision, made by me. So, I don't mind a bit about not agreeing, hearing differing opinions & looking at other positions from a place or point of view that I otherwise would not be cognitive of. In my opinion that is how I believe people learn & grow. So, again. .. I repeat. I'm a big girl. No worries. :-)
@travelhard4376
@travelhard4376 7 жыл бұрын
Saving Aidan, Do you always talk so much?
@MissMarinaCapri
@MissMarinaCapri 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting And compelling argument. You have given me much to think about, thank you.
@Thinker669
@Thinker669 6 жыл бұрын
Class C is usually a cut away van. Either Chevy or Ford. There's not many pickup trucks that have the cab attracted to the RV body. It would be better to have 4WD in case you wanna camp out in the desert.
@kennethrogers3687
@kennethrogers3687 7 жыл бұрын
Floor heat in class c. I don't know about newer Rvs but my older class c has excessive floor heat because the engine is so close. It can be annoying. Especially on hot days. I have heard others speak of this.
@stevefotiades3193
@stevefotiades3193 7 жыл бұрын
Most of the below comments missed the point. I owned a class A diesel pusher and a gas puller. Here is the real reason why a class A will never be as trouble free as a B or C. In the B and C, the entire cab with all of the dash, air conditioner, instruments , etc are assembled in an assembly line with qualified personnel, who have QA/QC requirements. Schematics are available of the completed assembly. In the class A, the assembler, receives the truck frame which includes the engine and NOTHING else. He then has to make a dash assembly, build an air conditioner vent system with doors for air flow control, wire all of the instruments, connect all vacuum lines, all hydraulic lines and pneumatic lines. Quess what? It is seldom done correctly. The common problems which can and do occur are all of the above. Usually there are no schematics because all models are seldom assembled the same. After 26 years of RV travel all over the USA, from my view, the only way to go is: Class B or C, or travel trailer or Fifth wheel with a proper tow vehicle. Simplicity! I am now on my fifth travel trailer. The evolution was as follows: small trailer, no slide, larger trailer, no slide, larger trailer, one slide. Still larger trailer, two slides. No problems with the different tow vehicles. No problems with any travel trailer because of their simplicity. Those are my thoughts and experiences. Happy RVing!
@NimitzclassA
@NimitzclassA 5 жыл бұрын
Yup most class B and class C are simply commercial vehicle platforms, that alone implies more reliability, plus any mechanic can work on them if needed.
@BigShastaKen
@BigShastaKen 5 жыл бұрын
No. My Tiffin has a Powerglide chassis that was built by Tiffin in the Tiffin chassis factory.
@StormLaker
@StormLaker 5 жыл бұрын
I work for a major diesel engine maker in a shop. One thing I've learned since I started in this business is that Class A's are a waste of money. Travel Trailers and Pickup campers are the way to go- totally agree. High horsepower diesel engines are expensive to fix and maintain (like those found in class A's). If you have a 1 ton pickup, you can do more things with that vehicle- that class A will just sit around until you want to take it out.
@TheSteveGainesRockBand
@TheSteveGainesRockBand 5 жыл бұрын
"the only way to go is: Class B or C, or travel trailer or Fifth wheel". Well, that helps.
@Pistolmike59
@Pistolmike59 8 жыл бұрын
I have owned 3 class A's and a class B and I wouldn't have anything but a Class A. My Winnebago Sunstar 35 F sleeps 8, has a bath and a 1/2, lots of internal and external storage, larger headroom throughout. But.....everyone has to choose what works for them
@JimHarmer
@JimHarmer 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling me your experience.
@buglieboo
@buglieboo 6 жыл бұрын
I agree.... and for us it is the Class C. Had one before with less storage than the one we are currently looking at (both 24'). Prefer driving the C, as am use to driving a truck with our 26' travel trailer. No more trailers. Grown kids no longer traveling with us. Just our two pups!
@magnanorris3530
@magnanorris3530 8 жыл бұрын
Hello there, my Great Dane and I are leaving the traditional way lof living behind due to how atrociously expensive it is to live in Vancouver. We decided that we would like in an RV and we are currently doing our research on which is best for us. One thing about Vancouver is that it is very anti-poor, so the city will often criminalize or over-regulate and drum up fines for people who are inventive enough to think outside the box for living. No parking between this time and that time, no overnight parking in parks, no parking for "large vehicles" (The City calls any vehicle over 7 feet 3 inches tall and over 21 feet long a large vehicle) between certain hours of the day or night, and if you do, you get a substantial fine. I have considered the factors regarding Class A, B, B+ and C. Due to the size of the Class A, alone, it would be highly impractical with regards to this city although I have seen some Class C vehicles as short as 24 or 25 feet in length, the fact I have a dog, climate control inside the RV is of great importance. I considered some Class B and B+ vehicles, but I want my dog to have all the comforts she deserves and more, and moving around without obstructions is important as well. The Class C will be slightly too big for the City's over-regulated, wallet-raping constraints, but there are some short class C vehicles as short as 19, 20, 21 and 22 feet, but even if I got one to comply with the 21 foot length, all class C vehicles are over 7 feet 3 inches in height. The other option is to simply move out of that city, because most neighboring cities are not even close to Vancouver in terms of their near Nazi-style regulations. The types I was told to stay away from were Dutchmen, Coachment, Glendale. The types that seemed good were Sunseeker, Triple E, Jayco, Thor Motor Coach (though there were also some very bad reviews as well as very good ones), but I spoke with a guy who is in an older Triple E and he said you'll get hassled with vehicles over 21 feet. I am also going to need a 4-seasons RV, and one that has linoleum floors, stainless steel sinks and porcelain toilet and has a bathroom with a small tub in it so I can take a bath and soak and one that has a large bed in the back so that automatically makes it so I am not likely getting one that is 18 to 21 feet, but closer to 23 to 25 feet. If Vancouver were not so over-regulated then I would just go for one that is 25 to 28 feet long. Back to research, thanks for your points and thoughts.
@magnanorris3530
@magnanorris3530 8 жыл бұрын
Whoops, sorry for the typo. I should also mention that Winnebago/Itasca are also apparently great manufacturer brands.
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Magna Norris Hey there. I hope you take no offense by this, question but are you M or F? I'm F. So this is not a sexest thing on either sex. I just noticed a lot of your comments mirror my opinion on what's happening everywhere with the anti poor ideology. But I'm in the US. I'd like to visit Canada at some point so information from someone who lives there & isn't so Go,Go, Go (Insert Country Here) & is willing to discuss the in's & outs is best to get honest opinions from. Would you be willing to start a email conversation off YT? If not no offense taken. I just don't always, want to put all my questions or opinions on a particular YT video. Makes the KZbin'r $ Which I don't mind at all really. Or understand why so many ppl do really! YT makes plenty of $! So I don't begrudge the person making the actual video making some $ too. A lot of ppl begrudge people making $ on tgeir videos I dont understand that at all. But I digress. .. also I appreciate the Info on certain topics that stem from the debate over the topics you are interested in because you get lots of info you may not get when ppl don't debate. (More often arguements then debate)after the initial opinions are given which can provide great pros,& cons But then....The people seem to react in a unnecessary way if someone doesn't agree exactly that their opinion is correct. So, That's the reason I asked if you would want to have a dialog off YT. If so let me know, I'd like to pick your brain about your country, area, regulations, & other such topics. Thanks hope to hear from you. Cheers from KY USA!
@magnanorris3530
@magnanorris3530 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Miss Kentucky, I am a male, and I do not mind carrying on outside KZbin. You seldom get the complete truth in tourism brochures. Our country will soon follow suit with yours given Soros owns political leaders.
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Magna Norris LOL, OK do you have a way for me to contact you? PS. I just posted a comment to the page. Take a look if ya want. Let me know how to contact ya & we will leave the rest of the debate here to others. .. lol. Ms. KY? Your hilarious. hehehe.
@savingaidan1494
@savingaidan1494 7 жыл бұрын
Magna Norris OK got cha. I'd delete this off here now, so trolls won't contact ya. T b asks for that lol be sending you a email soon. P.S. What's your Great Danes Name?
@djf2918
@djf2918 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tiger, THIS was the information I needed.. Thank you so much for it.. People need to remember since trucking deregulation, anyone from over the border can ge a Class A license.. How'd YOU like to be hit head on by a overworked/underpaid Sleep Deprived Truck driver? I've seen it all running truck up & down the West Coast.. Finding a Gas mechanic for a "C" vs a Diesel Pushin' "A" WILL cost you more. . . Thanks C R
@Mardasee
@Mardasee 7 жыл бұрын
I want a strong chassis system and a home made open cabin interior, and privacy curtains. The head um bathroom will have a home toilet and a shower with a seat. Large supply of water onboard. Ice coolers (foot stools) for refrigeration backup. Nice lounge chairs............
@BRBTechTalk
@BRBTechTalk 8 жыл бұрын
I saw the results of a class A rear-ending a semi that was hauling an airplane (of all things) the trailer was a low boy the motor home frame, tires, steering wheel and driver's seat was still on the road. The rest of the motor home was in the ditch. The living quarters sheered right off and the running gear looked like it could drive away. I have no idea if anyone was injured or not.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
That's what the makers of Super C's are saying (the ones built on Spartan & Freightliner chasis), you have the Frame, a crash zone and all that big ol' diesel engine in front of you, much safer, if you happen to have a head on collision
@leebirdwell8263
@leebirdwell8263 8 жыл бұрын
I wish you had provided illustrations (pictures or video) to show what you are talking about. I am not well versed on RV's and would have appreciated that.
@nancychapin3288
@nancychapin3288 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This isn't a discussion in which a talking head works! Save that for the shows on politics. If you don't take public speaking courses, then don't expect to get rave reviews.
@NomadicNative
@NomadicNative 8 жыл бұрын
This is a good video that brings up some good points, but I digress... Our brand new 2017 class A sleeps 6 without a bed over the driver & gets 9~11 miles per gallon while towing our Jeep depending on terrain. It has a 55 degree turning radius & there is no engine up front to worry about in a crash, but even if there was we would be sitting above it not directly behind it like in a class C. All class A motorhomes have a minimum of 2 exits by law/regulation, one being the emergency fire exit. Getting repairs? It's a Freightliner chassis, Cummings engine, Allison transmission & Freightliner service/repair centers are everywhere. Likewise, the gas class A is most likely a Ford V10 & Ford shops are also everywhere, and if you're broke down in the boonies CoachNet will get you to the repair shop.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
Good points and nice try, but I doubt if you are going to change anyone's mind, who is already set on a certain class of RV, They will argue the points ad nauseum, and in many cases have only had experience with the RV they currently own. So they have no point of reference. Talking to others who have experience with different types of RV's won't help them because it is not their experience.....
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 6 жыл бұрын
Nomadic Native He clearly said getting out the drivers door is easier than climbing over a dogbox . Do you climb out your fire exit regularly ?
@enna4986
@enna4986 6 жыл бұрын
Agree. We have no difficulty with the doghouse or using the door. It's not like there's a long line of people trying yo get in and out the door at the same time, and if you can't step on doghouse, you may not want to crawl up into the cab bed on some class C.
@dewaynem559
@dewaynem559 Ай бұрын
My dad wanted a class C motorhome but we are truck drivers when we drove one it was like sitting in a hole with lots of blind spots where a Class A you sit up high better visibility so he bought a class a nd he loves it fuel milage is the same unless you get a diesel😊
@sheilaschneider3895
@sheilaschneider3895 5 жыл бұрын
Never buy a Class C again. When my friend who has a Class C helped me load my new Class C, she wrapped every single dish and cup and pan and I thought that was strange as I had never done that and never broken a single dish and we've been camping for 30 years. Thank heavens she did all that as I can't even do anything in this bouncy hellhole. Everything even hanging is falling off. This is terrible; we're trading ours in for a Class A.
@jturtle5318
@jturtle5318 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 Winnebago class A. It rides like a freaking tractor trailer. Haven't broken dishes, but it's bouncy.
@herbertwebb7215
@herbertwebb7215 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you have said, however, the real delimma is between a class A and a super C. Super C's usually pull more weight, will handle as well or better than most class a's, safer in a frontal collision, and priced in line with nicer class a diesel pushers. They also will handle more wieght than most class a's which may have space but not a lot of extra carrying capacity and in fact travel down the road usually overloaded..so let's add overall safety for the class c.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 8 жыл бұрын
Super "'C's" are their own class. They are all diesels, have jacks for auto leveling, more powerful generators, have options for solar panelsand most have residential sized refrigerators, just to mention a few differences. Some are actually Class A's, because of the uni-body construction..... but because of their shape people still call them C's...
@SolomonHomestead
@SolomonHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
Great info - However we needed a toy hauler and only option for those is SuperC. We liked the Class A Toy Hauler options better mainly Cost and Maneuverability
@moonshadow6292
@moonshadow6292 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this I really appreciate it, it has helped me a lot!❤
@gerger7287
@gerger7287 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite is a small toy hauler, because there's a lot of things you could do in the garage and if you don't get a fifth wheel toy hauler, just conventional toy hauler, you can always get a new truck or SUV; not out a lot of money compared to the class A or Class C motorhomes. Trailer is having a diversified RV portfolio. I like the garage portion, great projected patio, plus some have bath tubs and frt kitchen. I hate gallery kitchen, traffic flow issues. Garage is great storage for toys, or thro in air mattress, great sleeping. Slide outs are okay, but just another problem, when least expected. Solar panels are must have, better then generator. Class A Motorhomes okay if you're going to be mobile. They're very expensive to maintain they have a lot of toys on them so be ready for breakdowns. If you wreck them, Ins. are very poor. Not many mechanics really know how to work on them, expensive $$ beast. Class C motorhomes are very mobile to get around, sleeper over the cab is a waste of time : either too hot or too cold for good sleeping and if your senior, it's very risky getting in and out of there. Plus if there's two people sleeping up there, the frame over the cab really can't support much activity. I would prefer a truck frame chassis with a trailer attached o it, because if you don't like the truck frame chassis you can always get another one, just removed the trailer. I have a Class A, Trailer and Truck camper.
@slappomatthew
@slappomatthew 7 жыл бұрын
one advantage of the Class A is newer better engine choices. The standard issue motor in a Class C is the older ford 2 valve V10 even today in 2018 where as newer class A have the newer 3 valve V10
@trort2714
@trort2714 5 жыл бұрын
Here’s what you need to know. There are very few standards in the RV industry. Check will owners of the rig make you interested in to get idea of build quality. If you have kids, get a Class C that has the over cab bed with private bedroom in rear. If just two people and going to travel a lot and pull a car, get a Class A Diesel. The RV industry has very little creativity so if you’ve seen three floor plans, you’ve pretty much seen them all. Think about your storage (in the coach as well as lot fees when not in use), sleep capacity and total length. After that, it’s really down to how much you want to spend. And if you’re handy, most repairs are simple. If you’re not handy,......make sure you have a trusted RV mechanic or open your wallet and close your eyes. I personally like Winnebago because they do a great job making parts easily available that many years back. And general build quality is acceptable.
@hottubmobileneil
@hottubmobileneil 6 жыл бұрын
I am not Neil , In my opinion it is best when purchasing an RV to get second hand because it is often cheep enough that you can usually not have to make monthly payments , and much of what need fixing has been fixed by previous owner , ya get more bang for your buck. , and if you purchase a short class A than it is not much different than a class c , my friend who has a class c measured the distance of wheels and concluded that a GMC class A is so close in comparison that it is as easy to drive. And when the engine is inside then you have shelter when getting to the engine which is nice when weather is not nice. Others have said that with older RV s the milage is often low on older RV s and that has been my experience , so ya end up with a cheaper rig that is hardly used and feels new in that respect. Milage is only a concern if you have a big trip , if ya have a spot ya can stay that you like then it is not an issue. I recommend to purchase cheep RV and upgrade it over time . mostly if ya have a spot for it than storage costs are not going to to add up . Happy trails .
@thorman944
@thorman944 7 жыл бұрын
Class A vs Class C in an accident is comparing an extended 1 Ton Van on a 1 ton van frame to a Mack or International truck. Class A uses bus frames and weight a lot more. Crosswinds have less effect on a Class A due to the weight difference. There is a great video from the NTSB that shows a typical midsize car with a 3 or 4 star safety rating vs a 5 star rated smartcar. Any guess which vehicle protected the passengers better? Give me an extra 2 to 5 tons any day in place of the airbag. Common sense and basic physics.
@bogie4653
@bogie4653 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought a jayco 26xd and took it to the oilfield of west texas. It's everything I could have ever asked for
@jatkins47
@jatkins47 6 жыл бұрын
19 reasons not to do what I did with my experience and knowledge.
@twatson8812
@twatson8812 7 жыл бұрын
My 85 34 ft class a pace arrow has passenger and driver doors and the pull down bed over the driver plus huge real metal bumpers it is a tank. lol. 454 chevy 7 to 8 mpg.
@safffff1000
@safffff1000 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the same about Class C till some pointed that the Class A had a very heavy frame in where all the heavy stuff is, such as gas, drive train, water tanks, storage bay and many have the generator in front. Thus The vehicle has a very stable low center of gravity which acts as a massive battering ram to conventional lower vehicles passenger compartments such as pick ups, cars and class C. When crashed the Class A people are above the massive forces in a crash while having much more weight stopping power to other vehicles. Not that Class A's or semi trucks want to hurt anyone they are none the less better protected. Class A people are above the worst part of the wrecks and have better road visibility to see road hazards ahead since they are so high up. It's the seat belt that saves you not the bag. The bag will make it more conformable As far as servicing, the parts are just bigger and with the right manuals and youtube university video most anything can be fixed.
@petronelaeirish8490
@petronelaeirish8490 7 жыл бұрын
you need to do more research, I've been in the bus business a long time and own a class A. You really need to break class A's into diesel pusher and front engine. They are both class A but very different. Class A's stand ups to front collisions very well. Get a mechanics opinion on A vs C
@stevedo9936
@stevedo9936 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that. Thank you so much. What do you think Gsa or Diesel?
@johniboz1
@johniboz1 5 жыл бұрын
Class A's are safer in front impact collisions. You get ejected through the huge windshield and land on a soft grassy embankment!
@label1877
@label1877 5 жыл бұрын
In addition....with a class A, you are always the first on the accident scene.
@chimpmunkboy8850
@chimpmunkboy8850 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds kinda fun .... kinda
@MichelleNovalee
@MichelleNovalee 4 жыл бұрын
johniboz1 or you can land on top of a burning shredded automobile or asphalt. Sounds like instant death or serious misery. And I’m not sure how many windshields you’ve gone through but I don’t imagine it’s comfortable. My husband was en EMT for 5 years and was pretty appalled by your comment. Hopefully you were joking.
@j.foobar1764
@j.foobar1764 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichelleNovalee *whoosh* He was joking.
@Mr51Caveman
@Mr51Caveman 7 жыл бұрын
I drove a 34 ft Class C all over Alaska with no issues. Then I had to move from Fairbanks, AK to Panama City, Fl. ok....wow. So I have a 22 ft trailer attached to this 34 ft Rv. Have to drive a few thousand miles. 5 adults, two children, one newborn, two cats and a dog. Sound interesting yet? So getting out of AK not so much of a problem but then we run into an about a 100 mile stretch of the Yukon where the roads are tore up for repaying (I guess) .....took 8 plus hrs to go that 100 miles! Seriously stunk! After that not to much of an issue. Except where I pulled off the side to sleep cause I had been driving for like 22 hrs straight. Pitch black night. I get pulled ober, sleep for a couple hrs. Open the side door to let my dog out to do his thing........OMG! About a thousand ft drop not eight inches away! Grabbed him and drove to a safer spot. If I had moved over a couple inches we would have been reported in a newspaper as those folks who went over the cliff and died a horrible death! Once we were in the US things got better. Still a mighty task to drive for 11 days to get from AK to FL. But the Class C served us well.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Mr51cav3man You are lucky to be here, the only mistake you made was driving for 22 hrs straight. Professional drivers don't even attempt that. Sleep deprivation could have killed you and your family, but I guess you realize that. I've seen videos of ppl who make coast to coast trips in a RV in 6 days. What is the point you don't get to see much, and you sure can't really enjoy what you do see, because you're always in a hurry. For me that is not what RV'ing is about. For me RV'ing is about taking your time, if you see something that peaks your interest along the way, stop and check it out, so what if it takes you 30 miles out of the way. RV'ing is more about the trip, and less about getting there.......
@Mr51Caveman
@Mr51Caveman 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts I agree with what you said. We were PCS'ING meaning going from one military base to another. We had limited time and for numerous reasons nobody else could drive. Mostly because my in laws were/are crazy. We did stop in South Dakota for Mt. Rushmore and gain in Tennessee for Graceland. But I only had 14 days to go from my base in AK to the one in FL.
@roydavis2242
@roydavis2242 7 жыл бұрын
FYI There are no airbags in a Class A because they would be useless. Because of the seat angle and height, plus the distance from the steering wheel and dash, airbags would be more of a hazard than a help. The risk for injury if you rear ended someone will likely be less, unless you hit a semi trailer, because the point of impact would be below those in the front. This is why they aren't required in Semi's or commercial busses. However, rollovers are a bigger risk because of the center of gravity is higher. Also one complaint among Class C owners is that many Auto dealerships will not do mechanical work on their class C even if it is on a Ford or GMC chassis.
@whitelight333
@whitelight333 5 жыл бұрын
This has been so helpful,Thank you for taking time to video tape this..Im looking at Class Cs..and an leaning un that direction..😁
@markymark7619
@markymark7619 5 жыл бұрын
white light but he himself bought a class A
@Melidontcare
@Melidontcare 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t agree with you but I respect your opinion, I’ve been RVing for 35 years, to each his/her own.
@zabamaz1843
@zabamaz1843 8 жыл бұрын
for Accessing engine for maintenance I always thought the class c was better, but after i got mine i realized how cramped the engine is and looking at a class A you have access from inside and under it is wide open, i don't know but I'm sure it's easer to replace the spark plug in a class A than in a class C or B.
@roadster2776
@roadster2776 7 жыл бұрын
a class c is a van , and very difficult to work on the engine compared to a truck
@clintskywood4466
@clintskywood4466 6 жыл бұрын
Class C's are trucks, Class B's are vans
@pmlonline
@pmlonline 6 жыл бұрын
Class C engine compartment is the same as a truck because it is a truck, with a camper on it. Nearly all Class C engines are easy to work on.
@directorjustin
@directorjustin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was very informative and unbiased. I would like to see a crash test between a Class C and a Class A to see just how much safer (if at all) the Class C is. The Class A has a weight advantage, but the Class C has a tech advantage.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
What tech advantage might that be?
@directorjustin
@directorjustin 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts Airbags, crumple zones, and electronic stability control. The class C might even have a stronger passenger safety cage.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Justin: Electronic stability control and Accident avoidance systems are available on Class A DP's in most models. In a class A the passenger doesn't sit close enough to the dash for airbags to be effective. As far as a passenger safety cage, In my class A, the front end and sidewalls and roof are all rolled steel. In a gasser, it might be fiberglass and luron, and maybe some aluminum framing. Go to some of the manufacturer's website, or check further on youtube there are lots of videos that are factory tours. These tours in most cases show you how these coaches are made. It sounds like you have a bit of research to do.......ln particular, check out the videos from Renegade, Haulmark, and Showhauler for the Super C's, and Newmar, Tiffin, and Entegra for Class A DP's.......
@directorjustin
@directorjustin 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Roberts I didn't know that Class A RVs have stability control or accident avoidance systems. The steering wheel might still present a hazard in front crashes. Even with an airbag, the dummy's head sometimes hits the steering wheel in crash tests. It won't be fully known how well either types of RVs perform in crashes without testing.
@roryroberts3787
@roryroberts3787 7 жыл бұрын
Justin: I'm sorry but it sounds to me like you are doing everything you can to convince yourself that purchasing a RV, any RV, any type isn't safe. Either you want one or not. All this "concern" over safety issues says to me that you would not be able to enjoy your purchase. The only way this will happen, is if you do your due diligence, take your time finding a well built brand, look @ the types that will best meet your needs, then find the best floorplan for your use, and bite the bullet. No one and I mean no one gets it exactly right the 1st time. You may find that your 1st purchase isn't quite the right size, or has too little or too much storage for your useage, any number of things. But these are the things that you really can't find out, until you experience it. Perhaps you should consider renting one of a type/class you like and see if it fits. Other than that I don't know what to tell you. Just remember, the choice is yours, you are buying for you and your family. No one else can or should dictate what you get. We are individuals, and that is the reason why there are so many classes, floorplans, price points and colors. If it weren't for that we would all be driving white pickups with a tan tent on the back.. Good luck in your search and maybe we'll meet somewhere down the road.....
@dave.bosarge840
@dave.bosarge840 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jim they are big and great for normal living with storage
@CaesiusX
@CaesiusX 6 жыл бұрын
I realize this is an old video, but I really appreciate the work you've done on some of these. It's not the first one of yours I've seen. My wife and I are currently shopping for an RV. Ultimately it's whatever she wants, because this is her dream. But we don't want to be stupid about it either. I would disagree with you on the class A versus Class C when it came to visibility. It always seemed to me that that large open window right at the front with nothing sticking out in front of you would give you better visibility. I did drive a Volkswagen bus once, but I have yet to drive any of these RVs myself. So I realize I could be way off when it comes to the reality.
@Trailhound1
@Trailhound1 5 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that a classA did not have air bags. The repair advantage on a Class C is big. Thanks for your comments.
@stumpjumper1dc
@stumpjumper1dc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Many good points i'm sure. Where is your video on the Class A you are buying? I thought you said you had one? Thanks
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