1923 Finale Shocker - Alexandra’s Secret Explained

[@TasteofCountryMusic]

Prediction time: What's something you THINK will happen in Season 2? And what's something you hope happens?

[@mikeb.7183]

I agree that Jack will be the one who keeps the Dutton family name alive, I think they will hold off until after Alex's death to reveal her pregnancy..... That's right Alex dies from TB. There could of been a hundred ways to kill off the Tugboat Captain so why did they chose that one ?

[@Cherryswitch]

Marquise is actually pronounced mar-KEY.

[@virginiathompson2838]

I hope Spencer isn't detained for a long time so Alex can find him. also where are they taking him. a wild thought is the Mafia helping him in some way.

[@wilbournemarkham1812]

Alex births ‘John Dutton’ (Dabney Coleman) Whitfiled’s property acquisitions become part of Yellowstone (thank The Countess of Sussex), and Spencer disposes of Whitfield and Creighten, but it costs him a leg amputation.

[@Ignats75]

Being a countess doesn't make her "royalty". It makes her nobility.

[@TnTAdventuresPhotography]

I've been saying. Spencer carries Elsa's knife. Elsa is the anchor...the reason the ranch exists. Spencer will be the ancestor.

[@80bbygrl]

I can't wait for season two... I'm SO BUMMED we have to wait!!!!! Spencer and Alex were the BEST part.

[@carlosfuentes7945]

I liked she kept her secret until the finally. The waiting is the frustrating part.

[@Truthster772]

THIS

[@gGrndSonHmStdrND1882]

@@carlosfuentes7945 Kept till? It was the Captain and her best friend nodding yes that spilt the milk.

[@golfhound]

Even though there is a screen writer's strike, I hope Taylor Sheridan has been busy writing. I hope he has the entire season 2 all ready to go.

[@jamesbradley3291]

There is a HUGE faux pas in the story line. Royalty class starts with King/Queen, Duke/Dutches, Marquice/Marquess, Count/Countess (aka Earl), Vis-count/Vis-countess, Baron/Baroness. Alex is a Countess. Her royal lineage is EQUAL to the future father-in-law. Next, her EX VIOLATED the law when he challenged the duel. And when he lost 3 times, it is the family of the loser who is HUMILIATED. Not the victor of the duel. And when he drew the gun, that made him a COWARD and HUMILIATED his family again. Both those incidents would have left the family with ZERO say with the Captain; as the loser was both the aggressor and violated the High Society “gentlemen” Rules. Under English Rules & Laws, it would have been the Father-in-law and son who would have been arrested and confined to quarters. Next, the ship was under maritime laws, not British control. The Capitan would have been required to radio the ship who performed the marriage. Upon confirmation, the Captain would have been required to honor the marriage. Since the Countess is Royalty, she could have had the Captain relieved of duty; as she is Royalty, he is but a ship’s Captain, and the Captain violated the Queen’s Law / English Law as royalty is in front of him, not a message at the end of a wire message.

[@cindynewcomb7139]

Thank you for laying that out. It gets confusing!

[@Ignats75]

Its possible that the radio contact with HMS Lambridge could still happen and resolve, once and for all, that question. The title's you refer to don't actually refer to the crown. They refer to land-hence Alex actually referring to her impending marriage as a land deal. Those terms originally were tied to the feudal contract and a Count held a county. The Earl of Sussex was the feudal holder of the county of Sussex. I agree normally the code of honor would indeed bring shame to Arthur's family. But, Watergate wasn't the first coverup in history.

[@unshakablesoul]

There's a lot to unpack here -- because as a woman, she is under contract, essentially, as Arthur's betrothed (and, while I'm still sifting through information historically, looks like as his fiancee she is considered the Countess, by pending marriage). Also, given they are traveling without her father (her legal guardian -- women did not have autonomous rights as we do now, back then), Arthur's father -- the Earl -- becomes her legal guardian since she is legally betrothed to his son. Given they do not have proof -- yet -- of her marriage to Spencer, the Earl as her guardian is in rights to question the marriage, and 'protect' her. Adding, just have to say -- can't imagine that certain laws of gentlemen society would be followed if it involved a common American (Spencer), and everyone else who was British society and witnessed , refused to defend him, as was conveyed.

[@lindabriggs4265]

I thought the Captain received a wire from the King of England

[@Ignats75]

@@unshakablesoul You are way way off base.

[@puffcatty2003]

Spencer and Alex's story follow a romance story plot line and arguable the most important of the 1923 series, so far. Alex and Spencer's story is epic, like an old hollywood film really. There is more character development with them than the rest of the entire cast of 1923, it's the hero's back story. Jack and Elizabeth are very much secondary characters, almost frivolous really, with very little character development, or even screen time. Their miscarriage is foreshadowing on a multitude of layers. When the massacre happens and Jacob is injured and John Dutton Sr dies, Jack is not considered strong enough to carry the ranch and they send for Spencer. It does not make sense for John Dutton III to come from the frivolous secondary plot line when he could come from the strongest character line, the lead lineage with Spencer and Alex. The formality and the upper class mentality of the Duttons in Yellowstone would not have come from "ranchers with money". It will have to have been infused into the family and it seems that Alex would be the likely source, the only source at this point. Spener is the prodigal son returning. He almost has to be John Dutton III grandfather. It would be disappointing otherwise.

[@kc72186]

Agreed on all counts 👍

[@dolphinschild62]

Agree

[@Thomas1701E]

Yes, I hope Spencer is the grandfather of John Dutton III.

[@aunthazie68]

Agree with everything you're saying but what if Alex dies in childbirth and Spencer also dies somehow or goes back to Africa after Alex dies. The baby is adopted by Jack and Elizabeth..... Just a thought

[@puffcatty2003]

@@aunthazie68That does not change the parentage though. That would be really disappointing though since they spent so much time making us fall in love with Spencer and Alex. It would kill viewership. Since I made this post, I came across more information that pretty much confirms Alex and Spencer are the grandparents of John Dutton in Yellowstone. There is a line in yellowstone where someone is talking to John Dutton and they say his grandfather was in the war. Spencer is the only one that was in the war.

[@KenJohnsonMusic]

The most disappointing storyline in tv history is keeping Spencer from getting his azz home for the fight.

[@angel-ij4xv]

their should of been 10 episodes don't know why they did 8

[@SandorSoptei]

@@angel-ij4xv cocktease

[@djami0123]

i loved the storyline

[@James-ls1qt]

It has been over two years now and I say who cares!

[@pNo415]

According to Jennifer aka Best Bridesmaid ever, both of Alex’s parents left Africa the day Alex broke her engagement to Arthur. Doubtful that she is a widow since she is so much younger than Spencer. She is much too young to be a WWI widow as well. A second marriage at that time would have been a low key affair not an engagement announcement in Africa. Alex claimed the marriage was a business arrangement between the fathers. If Alex was a widowed Countess she wouldn’t have been treated as such a pawn and would have had some power in who she chose to marry the second time around. The other huge problem are the IMDB credits. Jane Carlson who plays Bruce Davison’s wife is credited as the Countess of Sussex. Rafe Soule is Young Arthur. Bruce Davison is just Arthur. For Alex to be the Countess of Sussex she would have married young Arthur and his father would have to be deceased. So messed up.

[@tubesterberg]

Rainwaters will end up on the land that becomes the 6666.

[@msdanielsjd]

She never married. I believe she inherited the title.

[@virginiathompson2838]

​@@msdanielsjd ppl

[@angel-ij4xv]

she is my favorite actress on the show

[@Rootbeerpapi1]

Can’t wait for season 2. All of these shows have been good so far.

[@lyndacooke4878]

I’m thinking we need to do a deeper dive into Arthur (the elder), Arthur (the younger), and Alex as to the titles the Captain of the ship uses. Either Taylor Sheridan is previewing a much larger plot twist for Season 2, or; his research staff has made serious blunders in their scripting of British peerage. There are two clues to help us. The first is the First Mate’s informing the ship’s captain of the impending duel. He informs the captain the challenger is - The Earl of Sussex. That would be Arthur the younger, ex-fiancée of Alex. A review of the Captain’s discussion with Spencer at timeline 1.00:36 in the episode is particularly revealing. The Captain informs Spencer - a Prince in succession has ordered his (Spencer’s) removed from the vessel. Spencer asks for information about “his wife”. The Captain replies….you mean The Countess of Sussex? Which statement Alex's friend Jennifer confirms with a head nod to Spencer. The Captain further informs Spencer …The Earl of Sussex has called into question the legality of the marriage. That’s interesting stuff, even if muddled ……… Who is the Prince in succession? There are two possibilities. That’s either (and most likely) Arthur, the elder. Arthur the elder (we can assume) is Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn, 7th child and 3rd son of Queen Victoria. Who in 1923 time frame would be the uncle of the then King George V. It is unclear to me if Prince Arthur was ever bestowed the title” Duke (or Marquess) of Sussex. I think we can allow writer’s liberty on that question and just “assume” yes for the benefit of the storyline. Or; perhaps The Prince in succession is Arthur, the younger which could develop a MUCH more twisted story plot. I believe the British peerage had dropped the title "Prince" for downline male heirs by 1923 but we can entertain this writer's liberty use for the benefit of story writing. If our "Prince" is Arthur, the younger (The Earl of Sussex) he would have had to survive his fall from the ship and be alive to make such a demand on the Captain. Interesting........ To further muddle the story the Captain uses the reference to Alex as “The Countess of Sussex”. Again setting up a twisted plot line. That’s either a huge oops on Taylor Sheridan’s scripting or uses the incorrect “The” Countess of Sussex title with reference to Alex as the legitimate wife of Arthur, the younger. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the butt for Season 2 drama? If Alex is The Countess of (anything) in her own right, it isn’t Sussex. Further, if Alex is a true royal peer in her own right; that two is an interesting plot line. Alex twice refers to her parents (meaning both ) as living in her discussions with Jennifer. Regardless; Taylor Sheridan has a lot of “`splaining” to do to bring these questions full circle.

[@aliciabruder1106]

The only princes from King George V at that time are Prince Edward aka David, the then future King Edward’s VIII who would later abdicate and Prince Albert aka Bertie, the then future King George VI. Also I thought Alex was duchess while her ex fiancé was from the count title of succession.

[@marlainemonter692]

This info really helps me REMEMBER the plots/story lines of each of these different series. Really appreciated 👍

[@lindaguy8720]

Looking foward to all of them. They are all favorites. Thankyou for the update.

[@MegaTrill88]

Spencer and Alex both get to Montana. Spencer destroys the murderous Banner with violence. Alexandra is indeed royalty and destroys the greedy Whitfield with money and influence. Both villains meet an end by the means they employed. Banner is killed by violence and Whitfield is destroyed by money and power.

[@paulsiskin5824]

Have you spoken to Taylor Sheridan? If not, I have his phone number, please call him LOL

[@NurseSue425]

Great analysis !!

[@MegaTrill88]

Thank you, but @maudoortwijn gave a humorous and insightful reply shown above. Let's see what Taylor Sheridan scripts for the screen.@@NurseSue425

[@JJ-nh8lv]

All the characters are deep and well portrayed. 1883, 1923 is the most riveting TV in decades.

[@OksanaBelle]

Any one saying they didn’t like teonnas story line needs to give their head a shake, it is extremely important that every PERSON in North America be exposed to the genocide that is residential school

[@000006ify]

That's why people came to America was to get away from them catholic control freaks

[@suzannarobinson4726]

You are so right. Its been shocking knowing that storyline is based on fact.

[@unshakablesoul]

Strongly agree -- we've heard stories for generations, but having it so strongly depicted is powerful and necessary.

[@shantishanti1949]

Taylor Sheridan I applaud you for being brave enough to address the treatment of native Americans 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@llamamama7114]

PERIOD. When the sheriff asked that low down “father,” how many deaths happened at his school, and that POS priest said “enough to warrant a graveyard.” That made my stomach turn. Those innocent children ripped from their family and culture just to be abused and murdered. Unspeakable. However, kudos to Sheridan for bringing it to light. This is so important!

[@BrennanHayleigh]

Alex said that the war cost her a brother. So it would make sense that she is the only living heir.

[@anaccidentalretiree-tammye3425]

I took it that it was presumptuous that she was the countess of Sussex because she was engaged to the Earl’s son. She isn’t necessarily royalty. Unless… Arthur’s father isn’t the Earl of Sussex and Alexandra’s father wired the disproval. It is confusing because something isn’t accurate. Alexandra wouldn’t have had the title of Countess until after she married Arthur and then I believe only after his father, the Earl died.

[@lneal1670]

Prince Arthur, 1st Duke of Connaught and Strathearn, was the 7th son of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert. His lesser title was Earl of Sussex. He died in 1942. He had a son, Prince Arthur of Connaught, who was his father's heir. Prince Arthur was born in 1883 and died in 1938. This Prince Arthur married his cousin Princess Alexandra, 2nd Duchess of Fife. They had one son, Alistair Windsor, who became the 2nd Duke of Connaught and Strathearn. He died in 1943 and never married.

[@sandrajewitt6050]

A couple of things. An old saying says that a first baby can come anytime but the rest all take 9 months. It doesn't matter if the parents were married when the child was conceived it only matters when the child is born. Also, most dukes and earls etcetera are not royalty they are aristocrats. You are correct that the article The indicates the actual title holder or their spouse. However, it would be highly unusual for Alexandra to inherent her father's title. Most of them were created to pass on to male heirs exclusively.

[@mcsmoothie7052]

Without going back to rewatch, I think I recall the voiceover by Elsa at the beginning of episode 1 saying that her husband “ joined her” that year. So I don’t think Sam is alive.

[@dskize1]

that is true. that is why they met up in the valley at the end, like they promised each other.

[@Ignats75]

That video could easily be construed as "her heaven". Your interpretation could be correct too. That's the beauty of the writing, its was left open ended to allow you to interpret it how you wanted.

[@DrewDeLand]

Spencer and Alex is my favorite storyline ❤

[@susanpetrarca960]

There is no way to explain how Alex is "the Countess of Sussex" unless she was already married to Arthur Junior when she eloped with Spencer. If that's not the case -- and it's pretty clear that even the Sussex's knew it was at the engagement stage, Alex should've been given another title. Or perhaps it will be revealed that the evil earl senior convinced the captain that a marriage had occurred, so Spencer's and Alex's was null and void. How else to justify the cruel separation (and hinted at by the captain's aside about sincerity to the Earl.) Anyway, I'm looking for a fairly quick resolution to this separation -- after all, it's 1923 and times were a-changin', Spencer has some clout as famous war hero and hunter, and they don't keep princesses in the Tower anymore. I see Alex's wealth -- which, remember, she was going to beg from her father, who is very much alive -- being the key to the financial rescue of Yellowstone. Taylor Sheridan has always resolved the financial and business dilemmas on his shows fairly realistically, dispensing with could become boring and focusing instead on the human drama. In season 2, I can see the very intelligent and sharp Alex figuring that investments in land, mining and precious metals will not just pay off the Yellowstone tab and stymie "Whippy" Whitfield, but will also reap windfalls for her English family. She will anticipate the Depression and end up saving both families.

[@curtisslove]

I think the two Father's (Alex's & Arthurs) are the Earl's of Essex & the Earl of Sussex. Folks are just miss-hearing the titles during the dialog.

[@JerriSheets]

I love, love, love Spencer and Alex!!!

[@marciareis4762]

They are the best.

[@marlahuff3505]

My heart breaks for Teonna and I'm so glad the horrible treatment these children received is being shown.

[@BabyCharlotteschannel]

Oh tell me about it-- its hard to believe BUT i can tell you that i dont care about ANYTHING or ANYONE more than my girls and i would not blink an eye to do what those indians are doing amd about to do if someone hurt my child.. My goodness it is enfuriating!!

[@MM-fb9fi]

It needs to be shown and the world needs to know it still goes on in Canada. Canadas' treatment of its indigenous peoples has been and still is horrible.

[@James-ls1qt]

This kind of thing is still happening in real life right now !

[@susanwickman3603]

Remember Beth’s rant about all the silverware at the big table that nobody uses in last year’s Yellowstone? Then she and Rip and the boy started eating at the smaller table? I am willing to bet that was because of Alexander’s influence on the Dutton family.

[@fposmith]

"Alexandra" !

[@surferdude44444]

Alex has bux. She comes to Bozeman with her checkbook and saves the ranch. Don’t forget. Her brother died during the war and she could be the sole heir of the countess/duke thing.

[@CleetusVanDamme530]

Idk about that because the royal folks were all talking about how she wouldn't even be able to show her face in London anymore. Sounds like she has a lot to lose by choosing Spencer over some royal person.

[@mikeb.7183]

@@CleetusVanDamme530 She will get a one time payout from family to leave and abandon her title That will be the money that pays off the taxes. Even though I can't see an 1800's Irishman allowing a English Royal to pay off his debt the show has already established that a debt can be paid by anyone without the debtors permission.

[@pNo415]

Women couldn’t inherit titles back in the 1920s. Just watch Downton Abbey! Alex’s son would be the only one to inherit his dead uncle’s title if indeed he had one. If Alex didn’t have any sons it would go to the eldest male relative. I think Alex’s father is an industrialist who has lots of money because she has traveled and knows enough that she has a line of credit on the ocean liner.

[@tabbyandjackson5395]

@@pNo415 thats a lie hello Queen Victoria of the 1900 s

[@CleetusVanDamme530]

@@mikeb.7183 You all are missing the point. The Earl just lost a son because she chose to run off with someone else. You all really think she's going to get off with much when it's all said and done? Look at the scene on the ship when even her own best friend wouldn't back her up about what had happened.

[@Ignats75]

WAIT! What if Alex's father is who the captain is talking about not Arthur's?

[@harvestdays]

I can’t wait to see Spencer and Alex and how they get back together

[@matts1166]

Tin Foil hat time, but what if Alex dies, and Spencer, a grieving widower, gets with his brother's widow?

[@mandymac74]

I think Alex is pregnant. It would be a wasted opportunity if she isn’t and I think Alex and Spencer are Kasey and Beth’s great grandparents. Alex is a ladylike version of Beth and Kasey carries his riffle in the case Spencer carries. Also, I see a lot of Spencer in Kasey. It would also be crazy for someone as manly as Spencer to not have children to carry the Dutton name. Spencer also reminds me of Kevin Costner’s John. This is a very interesting “soap opera”. It is so much fun guessing who these past characters are and how they fit in the Dutton family tree. So ready for Season Two. Hoping we get some answers.😊

[@mandymac74]

@@matts1166uh HELL to the NO!!!! Spencer needs a woman who is strong willed and one who can take a beating and get right back up again and again. Beth reminds too much of Alex and Kacey reminds me too much of Spencer.

[@shelleyirwin6104]

I can see Alex being Beth Duttons great grandmother but it makes more sense that Jack and Elizabeth would name a son John. So maybe next year they will announce another pregnancy and we will finally get the answer to who are John Duttons parents.

[@Chiarakai]

why does everyone keep talking about who John Dutton's parents are? we KNOW who his parents are, he talks about them all the time and they have shown flashbacks of him and his father, People please use the correct terminology, it would be his GRANDparents you are wondering about, or even Great Grandparents, not his parents.

[@SandorSoptei]

@@Chiarakai exactly. If he was born in 1923-1924 he would be 100 years old in Yellowstone

[@151ncoke]

Spencer just can't catch a break. First the leopard, then the elephant, then the lions, then the bad news from home, then the boat captain dies, then the ghost ship capsizes the boat, and now this. Christ Almighty...

[@josephmay8837]

Yes, but he keeps on going, meeting each challenge with determination. The only time be smiles or laughs is with Alex, all other times he is all business, facing each problem head on.

[@gerimitchell5066]

Can't wait for season 2!

[@angel-ij4xv]

same here

[@carlosfuentes7945]

Me, three. 🤟

[@devinfischer1445]

I really like Spencer’s story. Jacob and Kara are a close 2nd.

[@golfhound]

Alex's parents are alive. Remember when Alex and Spencer were swimming, she mentioned how enraged her parents were going to be when they found out she's married and that there were going to be "obligatory visits and begging for money." Where I see conflict is that the Earl of Sussex will pressure Alex's parents to not recognize the marriage and prevent Alex from traveling to America. It will be interesting to see whose side her parents take. If Alex is pregnant, then that's a game changer. It would be known in British society that she did indeed marry Spencer and was with child. Since Alex mentioned begging for money tells me she's not rich or has no access to her wealth. So she has no financial means to travel to America, no matter how much she promised to meet Spencer in Bozeman. Perhaps her girlfriend who testified on her behalf to the Captain, will lend Alex enough for the whole trip. But let's say Alex gets the funds. There is no way she's going to survive getting to Bozeman on her own, especially if she has a child. She'll be an easy target for any number of bandits who look for easy prey on river boats. First she'll have to travel by ship to New Orleans from England. Then take a river boat up to St. Louis. Then another smaller river boat on the Missouri River Up to South Dakota and then by train the rest of the way. And if she brings her belongings, then we're talking a major expedition of probably 30 trunks of clothes and her belongings. There's no way she can do this trip alone in 1923. If the river boat can get to Bismark, then she could take a train to Bozeman. A whole ten episodes can be made out of her travels and then there's Spencer. Will he go to London to find her or head to Bozeman immediately to save the ranch? In any event, Taylor Sheridan can create a whole 10 part mini-series just around Alex if he wanted to. Sadly, it is rumored that there will be only 2 seasons of 1923. Who knows what will happen next. Fortunately for Taylor Sheridan, he has a gazillion people watching he shows. So he will be gainfully employed to write 20, 30, or 40 seasons on everything related to pre-Yellowstone.

[@lindabriggs4265]

Absolutely loved the duel The Alex royalty theme also ties in with the generational wealth that DW talked about. I think Alex will use her generational wealth to save the Dutton ranch in Season 2 and help destroy DW

[@pjj9491]

Love this story line...nice to see love...not constant mean drama and mayhem

[@kimlangridge7969]

They should have gotten some experts on board: you cannot be the “Countess of Sussex” unless you are presently married to the Earl of Sussex. No unmarried woman can be a countess unless she is the widow of an earl, in which case she is a Dowager Countess. I am an American; I learned this from “Downton Abbey;” if I am mistaken I hope a knowledgeable Brit will enlighten us. Also, Alex’s former father-in-law to be, if he were true to his class, would never - ever - have spoken to her as he did. And no matter how he felt, he should have paid her passage to America. And he would have apologized to her, formally, for the appalling behavior of his son.

[@annc560]

Didn't John Dutton say Spencer never left the ranch once he returned? (does he kill so many people when he gets back, a court orders him to never leave the ranch again?) And if that happened - maybe Alex is the one, with her wealth, that buys up the adjoining lands to make the ranch as big as possible so Spencer has room to roam. Alex mentions her family had "inter-breeding". Ya know those royal cousins tended to marry each other. What does John call Alex (aunt or grandma) when he is talking to Beth about marrying Rip? "Marry someone you can spend the night with in a tree". Makes me want to watch the whole Yellowstone series again to find out!

[@MrMaWis-xh3zr]

When Spencer and Alex get back I really don't think the 'court' or law is going to factor in, we just might see Spencer add to the Wyoming boarder body count, people just might disappear aka Donald Whitfield and Banner . Alex is going to pay the property tax thoe. Jacob all ready started dumping enemies on the Wyoming boarder they just have not officially named "the Train Station" yet . The sheriff asked Jacob ware are the body, Jacob Rotting on the Wyoming boarder so the train station is born.

[@curtisslove]

Elsa Dutton's family historical account during episode 1, clearly stated, that only one of her father's children would live to see their children grown, John Sr only had one child, not children (plural). Furthermore, John Sr died (1923) well before the depression era which begins in 1929, & ends before the start of WWII. So again, Spencer is the only remaining child of James and Margaret still living, to carry the fate of family through the depression and every other hell the twenty century hurls at them. Remember your history WWII is coming in 1940-1945, Korean War 1950-1953, Vietnam War 1964-1972. Spencer was born around 1888 or so, it's possible he lives through all these major world events (hells/horrors) and also sees his children, grandchild live to adulthood. Maybe not, we all know now how Taylor likes to kill off main characters like ants. If one doesn't have to be living to carrying the fate of one's family, then maybe John Sr. dead could do it through his son Jack. That's a huge play on words by Taylor, but possible that's what he means.

[@sandrahollar7746]

True on All A Counts!

[@pattygonzalez159]

I think Alex will meet up with Spencer in Montana. Spencer need to get back to help us family. I’m sorry to hear about Yellowstone!! Taylor’s got some good episode coming out. Tayler let’s move on. 😢 so far I love all your episodes.❤❤❤

[@jmr2436]

Jamie McShane also was in Sons of Anarchy (like Taylor Sheridan) when he played Cameron Hayes who kidnapped Jax’s son and took him to Ireland

[@barbaralavoie1045]

I really do like the Alex/ Spenser story. But I also like all of it.

[@jennifermaggio7784]

Anyone know when 1923 supposed to come back? It was really good and we were expecting another episode only to find out they only had 8 episodes? Ugh! It was really good!

[@CGinCT]

Taylor Sheridan made a script error The Earl Arthur is Earl of Sussex His wife is Countess of Sussex And Alex is not his daughter She is the daughter of another Earl and should therefore be something like Countess of Wessex or Essex Somewhere along the script writing I bet a goof was made. But I am confused as you all are, and I bet I will be glanced over by the script writers.

[@Ashley_e]

Yes!!!! I saw that. That whole thing was sloppy. His dialog about mopping the floor with him, is not 1920s dialog!

[@TasteofCountryMusic]

I'm glad I'm not the only who spent too much time researching this afterward LOL. Thanks for watching. I went back two or 3 times to be sure no one said "essex" instead of "sussex." Alas ...

[@AnnHClay]

She’d be Lady Alexandra Essex (or whatever surname).

[@curlybibliophagist]

I wondered if he called her the Countess of Sussex as an inference that she was supposed to be Arthur's wife. If she was royalty, she would have been able to pull some weight with Spencer being locked up. I also don't think she'd have been locked away in their room.

[@pNo415]

@@curlybibliophagist the Captain told Spencer that a Prince in succession has ordered Spencer removed from the British vessel. They have to be referring to Arthur Sr.

[@Ronnieleec]

I really want to see the Spencer story.

[@helenecarlsson4997]

He's the main reason I watch the show

[@maximusmeridius6610]

He accidentally tossed him overboard. That's funny.

[@NelloCambelli]

You have the most interesting discussions of the PLOT LINES. Wonder if the same was done in Elizabethan Shakespearean Era. Can’t we just enjoy the play in the present without all the speculation hype? Taylor Sheridan continues using the Downton Abbey cereal plots.

[@1tsallrelevant]

Love 1923! But oh my goodness the things that happen on there that tear at my heart. The cruelty at the school just breaks my heart. And I could just reach into the TV and slap Donald Whitfield myself! I do love Spenser and Alex(what a great love story) and hope she lives and saves the day with her riches!😍l

[@carl6352]

It's very easy to figure out the storyline for season 2. At the last moment Alex and her family's money save Yellowstone. To be honest, they were the only reason I watched it! I've watched the duel scenes 10 times! Oh, by the way, he was never fished out of the water!

[@robertmills3830]

They have such an incredible chemestry on screen. Jesus Christ, make some flawlessly beautiful babies already

[@skyjust828]

We don't know if John Dutton (of Yellowstone series) is descend from Spencer or Jack (John's son)

[@brendahill7529]

When Casey's baby was still born, John Dutton told Casey's wife at the funeral, that he had a brother that died. So one of the women has 2 boys or each has one and the other raises one as their own!

[@wilbournemarkham1812]

Fab work here. Great comments. Alex does have her own money! A few things going forward. In S4, E2 John tells Jimmy his grandfather lost his leg and the ‘Phantom Pain’ was difficult. We think Spencer will definitely lose a leg in 1923 S2 taking down Whitfield and Crieghten. We’ve decided that Jacob has foreshadowed Spencer’s return to lead the family. He frankly explained to Jack the men won’t follow him. That’s that. Beth and Casey are Alex and Spencer made over, we think. Direct descendants for certain. Also, the Great Depression is 10 years off. It will be Alex’s fortune that powers Yellowstone through to WWII and mid-century prosperity. In Yellowstone, many of the scenes are what is portrayed as Stratton Ranch acquired by Whitfield. The new road and mine are part of Yellowstone, for example. Also the main access is from the direction of the new road and mine, not from the rear of house as in 1923. We’ve enjoyed Spencer and Alex taking over 1923. However, Helen Mirren turned in several award-winning performances mid season. We hope she’ll be so honored!

[@sandrahollar7746]

Right In It! 😁🧐😃

[@evagarza6088]

I can’t wait for the next season!!

[@Rootbeerpapi1]

Teonnas story needed to be told. I don’t think Alex is coming to the US unless she is pregnant because they we’re getting it in.

[@lesliecolby-gz9vm]

I think Alex is already pregnant, shit who wouldn’t be with all that ravaging. Because she told someone in season 8 from Arthur’s family that she was married to spencer and starting her family with him. And she was queasy.

[@alexandracash8106]

I'll miss your recaps until 1923 returns! Is anyone else annoyed at the Zane plotlime being thrown in last minute? I mean it's another interesting historical illustration, but we weren't lacking for drama! About Alex's title, does Arthur Sr. already consider her married to his son?

[@lynnsmesa2263]

That’s what confused me too - and I agree on Zane too

[@Teresa-ch3og]

That's what I was thinking.

[@virginiathompson2838]

he seems to lean that way. *Jr seems to feel that because Spencer knew he was engaged he should have left her alone. love doesn't work that way. she could see her life as being smothered

[@robertkarp2070]

I think it's purpose was to weaken the Yellowstone Ranch but now Zane is going to be up in arms ready to fight. They followed him to his home after he'd separated from the rest of his group. Now Jacob Dutton is without one of his lieutenants. It's all part of that Miner's plan.

[@robertkarp2070]

@@virginiathompson2838 She chased after Spencer, not the other way around. She chose him. She made the choice and Spencer did nothing to influence that decision. Spencer was already heading out of town and she took off running down the street after him. Once she did that, Spencer knew there was no point in her going back to her fiance. The only reason why her ex-fiance wanted her back is because he's needy.

[@KedianGoode]

I think Teonna's kid and Alex/Spencer's kid will unite in some way.

[@jamesryanwigley]

It was a great episode but I’m kinda sick of the cliffhangers with Alex and spencer

[@N1mr]

She is a BLUE THUNDER. “A warrior”. Angelas rage comes from her ancestor….

[@Nyrfan30]

But Teonnas last name is Rainwater just like Thomas Rainwater, so that wouldn’t make sense.

[@iluvjensen1]

Theory… I’m wondering if Alex & Arthur Jr & Sr were loosely based on Lady Alexandra Victoria Alberta Edwina Louise Duff & Prince Arthur of Connaught & Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (aka Earl of Sussex) … Lady Alexandra & Prince Arthur of Connaught were first cousins once removed apparently. Perhaps in the world of 1923, we get a version of Lady Alexandra whose life changes course when she meets Spencer Dutton. Arthur Sr would be Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn, but also Earl of Sussex. His wife would be Princess Louise Margaret of Prussia / Duchess of Connaught and Strathearn. She wouldn’t be called Countess of Sussex because that is a lower title (correct me if I’m mistaken). It seems like the title of Countess mainly acquired by marriage and it was said by Arthur Sr on the boat at dinner that Arthur Jr avoided marrying a woman who didn’t love him. So, Alex couldn’t be The Countess of Sussex via Arthur Jr (and if he’s based of Prince Arthur of Connaught, he wouldn’t be an Earl anyway). Perhaps Alex’s father is an Earl and so she is a Countess through him and everyone is using Sussex because she is related to the Arthurs in some way.

[@billy6742]

I really liked Spencer and Alex .. but overall this was a damn good mini-series.. can’t wait for 1923 part 2

[@ambermiddleton1213]

Rip Cole Brings Plenty 🕊️

[@omo7945]

"It ends in a field in front of your fucking house" Spencer is gonna kill Banner in front of Dutton house.

[@skyjust828]

"the Countess" Alexandra lost a brother during the war, so would that mean she would be next in line?

[@brianrankin3808]

I personally think that the additional drama regarding Spencer and Alex’s trip to the USA was ridiculous and unnecessary! Poorly written and so ridiculously over the top that it insulted my intelligence! So apparently “duels” aboard a ship back then were legal and the Captain made sure to get The First Mate to referee the dual, but (SOMEHOW) none of them were paying attention to the dual when,(the Ex Fiancée) charged Spencer with a pistol and was thrown to his death from the ship! So I had to sit through that whole mess until Spencer was cleared of murder charges. BUT NOOO, that wasn’t enough drama for the writer! He felt it necessary to add all of the other BS to where they are now separated and Spencer was juuust out of ear shot so he couldn’t hear Alex saying where she would meet him! IMO, it took a wonderful storyline and needlessly inserted so much unbelievable drama into it that it became ridiculous! It could so easily be written with the right amount of drama in it, coupled with a great storyline to tell the story of Spencer and Alex’s adventures on their journey to The Yellowstone without going so far over the top to the point of actually pissing off the viewer and insulting their intelligence! Not sure if I’ll watch it again whenever it returns.

[@apollovizsla]

I hope that Spencer makes it back to Montana and meets up with Alex. If that doesn't happen, I think that Alex will save the ranch. I think that Jack and Elizabeth will have a son who will become John Dutton's, (Kevin Costner's) father.

[@Chocoholic679]

Nope, if you google the family tree, Spencer is John's (Kevin costner) grandfather. So Alex and Spencer have a boy. I don't think Jack's wife can have children anymore after her injury.

[@lateshachurney5965]

It’s interesting you brought up the possibility of us seeing Sam. I thought the same thing after this episode concluded. Maybe that is how the trio learns of Montana. After all Gil Rainwater does live on a rez in Montana. What I think should not be in these episodes is this stuff with beating the girls. I think it is so unnecessary.

[@jnne9597]

Why? Because the harsh reality of the treatment of Natives is too much? I think it absolutely needs to be shown. This aspect of our history is rarely spoken of and often glossed over.

[@101AstyMasty]

I'm glad they showed all the mindless brutality that natives were exposed to. Strange people came to their land, eradicated them by forcing their religion on them, adapting to their lifestyle, brutalized and savaged every fiber of their existence. It is very much necessary. When the priest tells Teonna "Mon petit savage"(I'm sure I misspelled, not a french native speaker) I wonder, who is the real savage? All the more reason to fuel my disgust towards religious indoctrination.

[@Thomas1701E]

Alex will show up at the ranch in the middle of a gunfight while running (in slow motion) towards Spencer. She gets shot in the back as she falls into the arms of Spencer. At which point, Spencer pulls off a Tombstone - Kurt Russell shootout killing Banner and Whitfield, per sources.

[@dougdraper4892]

Spencer's duel reminded me of the episode "Shindig" from Firefly. Could Alexandra being royalty throw some weight behind the Dutton's, either monetarily or politically, or otherwise?

[@AnnHClay]

A countess is married to an earl. A duchess is married to a Duke. Most dukes are not royal. Only the ones directly descended from the monarch are royal dukes (Edinburgh, York. Cambridge, Sussex, Kent, etc).

[@deniseasmith7508]

I was thinking the same thing. Dukes, Earls, Viscounts etc are nobility not royalty. The only royal ones are the titles a monarch gives to her kids/grandkids etc on their wedding day.

[@TasteofCountryMusic]

Possible I confused the terms nobility and royalty. Thank you for clarifying.

[@fruitafarmgirl]

I didn't see Alex being a Countess coming so I'm still reeling from those turn of events. Since I think the Dutton line goes down from Spencer and I think Alex is pregnant, my biggest question is how does Dutton heir get to Montana? We know the Dutton's keep the ranch somehow but what I hope and what I think happens are 2 entirely different things.

[@robertkarp2070]

@maudoortwijn I don't think so. Spencer is the love of her life. She doesn't care about titles or wealth.

[@SandorSoptei]

she will get to Montana. Give birth and then die. (Sheridan way). Spencer will be so sad plus he has ptsd from ww1. He will give the kid to his nephew who believes him and his wife can’t conceive. They raise John duttons father.

[@robertkarp2070]

@@SandorSoptei No way...Everyone will be heartbroken should that happen.

[@SandorSoptei]

@@robertkarp2070 have you ever seen 1888 or whatever it’s called. And Yellowstone. He always kills off characters in terrible ways.

[@robertkarp2070]

@@SandorSoptei Yes, I am completely caught up. Elsa's death was crucial to the story to establish the location for the Yellowstone Ranch. Family have died and buried on that land, so there's reason to fight hard to keep it.We just have to stay tuned for more harrowing adventures of the Dutton Family.

[@Juliemarg]

Does she have her own money? She got them new clothes in the ship store. Maybe the business arrangement is that Alex's family had money and the Earl of Sussex has a title/property. Like Lord Grantham had to marry a rich American to keep Downton Abbey.

[@britishexpat5862]

When they were dressing she mentioned her line of credit

[@jackson_craft_gamingscates9324]

excellent break down, as usual

[@Theranchgeneralstore]

I think there is a possibility that the Earl is claiming that the marriage was illegitimate because she is the "wife" of his son to avoid embarrassment and to keep what ever advantages it grants the family

[@curtisslove]

Agreed, Arthur Sr. (The Earl) still has to keep his land deal with Alex's Father.

[@Ignats75]

You still can't have Dabney Coleman come through Spencer. It trashes the 5th generation narrative that Taylor Sheridan has written into the scripts multiple times. Just because Elizabeth lost the baby, doesn't mean she can't still conceive. If the problem was with the baby (as Jack explains to her) the miscarriage was nature's way to protect her. The doctor even implied that by saying (with a form of relief) that Elizabeth "flushed the baby and she is ok. As for predictions (which I hate by the way-but I'll bite here)- I think that IF Alex is pregnant, then her family cannot abandon her per the moral standards of the day, particularly in the upper class of England. And they will allow her to move to Montana to be with her husband and the father of her child. She won't be the first daughter of a a titled nobleman to marry a commoner. And then, yes, she'll pay off the taxes. Unless Spencer gets there in time to kill Whitfield. Editorial: I HATE HATE HATE the fact that this show was only 8 episodes and left us with THREE cliffhangers. And when I say hate, not in the sense of how could you do this to us? In the sense of IT SUCKS and diminishes the quality of Taylor Sheridan's art. I understand why he did it. The season was already one of the most expensive in history. To do the storyline in Africa live and not in front of a green screen was so expensive that 8 was all Paramount Plus could afford. But, the plot is, while wonderful, very slow developing. Personally, streamlining it just enough to get Spencer and Alex to Montana; or Teonna to Sam's tribe (my wife and I both called that last night) before the end of the season would've at least shown a little bit of respect to the audience by giving them at least a little bit of closure instead of hanging us all out to dry. Rant over.

[@TasteofCountryMusic]

I agree with all of it 😊

[@curtisslove]

Another mistake is when John III is with is dying father, John II, out on the Yellowstone mountaintop and John II tells his son, that "your grandfather" fought in WW1. That can only be Spencer, cuz, Jack was only 12 or so, during the War. (1917-1918) US involvement. And John Sr. was too old to fight in the war (over 40) John Sr was born in 1878 & Spencer around 1888.

[@gGrndSonHmStdrND1882]

Your claim = You still can't have Dabney Coleman come through Spencer. can't ?? It is possible, but I'll admit unlikely. Spenser was ~19 in 1905 and could of had a son out of wedlock. Maybe not even to his knowledge, as of yet? Son could be attending MSU in 1923 and have a blond girl friend? The line through Jack is just too obvious for TS.

[@Ignats75]

@@gGrndSonHmStdrND1882 Your conflating obvious with logical. TS is ALWAYS logical. If Spencer had a son, we would know about it by now. TS wouldn't invent that out of whole cloth as an after thought. He does the opposite. He leaves more easter eggs around than the white house easter egg hunt. We would've known about a son by now.

[@curtisslove]

@@Ignats75 We only know what TS has shown us in the graveyard a few flash backs during Yellowstone and 1883. So far TS has shown us the following dead Dutton in the Yellowstone graveyard. James, Margaret, Ned, Lance, Patience, John Sr, Lee, John III's wife & John IV. More than likely there will be more Dutton gravestones appearing in 1923 Season 2, like Spencer's, Jacks, maybe Lizzy & Alex too, with that maybe their death dates. I agree, that more than likely, Jack & Lizzie will be John II's parents. Spencer & Alex, I believe will have a child in 1924, but it will have some type of connection to Jamie's birth mother. I still believe it's possible that Spencer turns out to be John II father, but I agree that would involve a major twist in what we currently know about the 1923 Dutton's. Anything's possible with TS.

[@steve4158]

The banker, played by Timothy Daulton says the Yellowstone holds the most precious minerals in Montana. Why didn't the Dutton family selectively mine those assets to create a dynasty? That's why this is a fictional show.

[@geraldbodnar2718]

I'm a Fan !! Fantastic show !

[@bjjensen3792]

There's always been something that bothers me about the number of generations between James Dutton (in 1883) and John Dutton (in Yellowstone). It has been stated that James is John's great-great-grandfather, and James' son, Spencer, would be the great-grandfather. If Spencer's child is born in 1923, then potentially Spencer's GRANDchild would be born around 1943 (based on a 20yr generation). We know Costner was born in 1955. That would make his father, and his grandfather each have a child at the age of only 15 or so. Granted, it's not unheard of, but it's still quite young. I'm basing my calculations on the apparent age of Dabney Coleman's character depicted in the death scene from Yellowstone where John takes his father out to "the rock" where he dies. He appeared to me to be in his late 80's or early 90's, and that scene seems to have occurred well before the beginning of the Yellowstone series begins with S1E1. I am the same age as Costner, actually a little younger. MY grandparents were born in 1911 and 1914, respectively. The way I see it, there's an extra generation that just doesn't quite fit the math here. If anyone else has a better fit for a timeline, please feel free to explain in a reply. James in 1883 is in his 40's. His child, born after 1883 is Spencer, possibly born in the late 1880's. Spencer fights in WWI, so he's now in his mid-20's. He would have had to be born in the late 1890's instead. There just isn't enough time, in my book, for there to be ANOTHER generation between Spencer and Costner's John.

[@aliciabruder1106]

From what I’ve found trying to look into the family history, they also seem to have a tendency of having children when they are older/later in life, have issues getting pregnant and carrying to term, and have large age gaps between children as well so it really stretched things out that way too.

[@mafaldaoliveira5180]

I had the same question. But I will share my thinking after see all the shows. Spoiler alert. I think que problem in your dates is that you are consedering costner's age... the actor's and not the character's. Is my theory that in general the actors in this shows are representing younger characters than they are in real life. In the episode of Loyd's birthday we get a clue of that fact, all the bunkhouse cowboys think he is making 70 years that day and is actually doing only 58 years old. Loyd actually seems older than John. We may think that john is also younger than he looks... One thing know for sure... spencer has to have at least 2 children... we know that because in the begining of 1923 the narrator (Elsa) says that her father James had 3 children (elsa, john and spencer) but "only one would live enough to see his children grow up. And only one would face the great depression". We know that the great depression is in 1929. But john (jacks father) dies in 1923... so that stament can only be about spencer... his brothers are all gone but him to face the depression. So He will see his children (in plural) grow up and face the 1929 depression... If we take that in consideration lets do the math again: If spencer as a son until 1925 (maybe Chance, one of the names we don't know yet that is in the cemitery) that child of spencer could be john's grandfather, following a 20 year gap, he could become parent of john's father in 1945, and john would be born in 1965 making him 53 years old in 2018 when the show start... still a little younger than Loyd and still a good age to be a parent of lee and beth that are in their 30's. In that option, thinking that john's father died around 2010-2015 we would have died with 65-70 years old ... That would make: 1th generation: James 2th: Spencer 3th: Chance 4th: John Sr 5th: John Jr. But if the grandfather is jack.. and he has children around the 1930's... then john's father would have died with around 80 years old... also possible and more likely That would make: 1th generation: James 2th: John I 3th: Jack 4th: John Sr 5th: John Jr So both are possible. John may be from spencer's or jack's line and still be the 5th generation. However, since Jamie was born in 1977 (beth menciones in 2022 that he is 45 years old), its more likely that johns grandfather is jack. But the fact that spencer as to have children acording to elsa, and the fact that are at least 3 persons at the graveyard that we don't know yet, 2 probably of that time... makes sense to me that there is a generation messing from spencer's side and probably a 4th show in the 1940's would explain that. Sorry for the long reply, but this shows are awesome and make us think 😊.

[@karenquisenberry8823]

Creighton is going to get his "Just Dessert" when Spencer gets home. I hope to see a whole lot more of Teonna Rainwater. What happens in her life, how she deals with it and where she ends up including her connection to Thomas Rainwater. Apparently, something happened to his mother and he was taken as a ward of the state and adopted out. I want to know all the trials and tribulations the Indians go through, all of the parallels. Everyone I have talked to about "Yellowstone" is all in, even some people you never think would care about the genre.

[@rainman42]

A great finale...even tho none of the good guys ( or gals)could catch a break amd every injustice was p*ssing me off, I guess that's what will keep me coming back and next season is too far away...what a great final scene between Spencer and Alexandra!also the duel...I almost thought the earl ,with his superior sword skills, was going to kill Spence, but it didn't even matter his lack of skills....them being taken away from each other was a great piece of writing and acted very well....anyways...love the show ..LOVED 1883( which is just a tad bit better than 1923, but still highly enjoy 1923)...and can we get our men and women back of yellowstone of today please? I need to see Beth kill Jaime....I'm hoping...will it he that obvious ?

[@lvg777]

@rainman42 You need to see Beth kill Jamie? I'd rather see Jamie kill Beth. I've had enough of her persistent whining, week after week.

[@madonnamaselli9622]

Also in the death scene between John and his father, the father spoke of when he was in the war… thus it is spencer the father of John Dutton

[@robertkarp2070]

Chances are John Dutton's father would have been a WWII vet. Better chance that Spencer and Alex are his grandparents. Spencer Dutton would be about 60 years older than John Dutton from Yellowstone. Spencer Dutton from Yellowstone would have been born in the 1950's.

[@Chiarakai]

@@robertkarp2070 huh? Spencer Dutton was born in the late 1800's, not the 1950's. The only Spencer Dutton that is featured in Yellowstone is in flashbacks and he is a kid.

[@jerrypeacock2234]

I love all the storylines but give us more Spencer and Alex, there were sparring from the moment they met was a joy to watch, all the women of 1923 are tough as nails I just know when Kara finally meets Alex she is going to love her immediately.

[@theresanoble1695]

Spencer and Julia!! Love the chemistry between them is amazing. Love the romance!

[@matth5117]

The great Sheridan made a mistake with the royalty name mess. I believe Spencer & Alex are the grandparents to John (Costner) but his dad was raised by Jack/Elizabeth because something happens to Spencer/Alex. I think Elizabeth getting shot in the abdomen keeps her from having babies.

[@joseespinosacastilla]

Cuando exciben el final de 1923????

[@sheilatruax6172]

The line of Jacob/Cara. As they're the reason i wanted to watch this Yellowstone.

[@Solo-Skywalker]

Spencer will die on The Ranch his wife will die during childbirth, and Jack and his wife will raise the child they won't have..

[@curtisslove]

Can't happen, Spencer is already scripted (destined) to carrying the family through the depression (1929) and every other hell the 20th century throws at them. That's obviously at least WWII which is 1941-45, and the Korean War 1950-53. Spencer will live to see his child(ren) & grandchildren John III (Costner) grow into adults. If Taylor gets the families scripted history wrong, then that's a major f'up. John III (Costner) tells his grandson (Tate) that his grandfather lost his leg and had phantom pain.

[@lynnsmesa2263]

I have a couple questions - why on the Dutton family tree has John Dutton (Kevin) as mother unknown - unknown huh - could it be a descendant of Teona - also why does John have an unknown brother too? And they don’t show Spencer having a wife or children.

[@britishexpat5862]

because Sheridan doesn't want to box himself in

[@Ignats75]

[@samuelpancake4084]

Spencer and Alex is the best but taona is a eye opener off the cruel early American history

[@visitsoutherncalifornia930]

Spencer and Alex produce John who produces Kevin Costners John who produces Casey and Beth who are literally the same personality and mentality as Spencer and Alex

[@alytavarelita]

The continuation urgent !!!!! Let me like a bride in the church

[@adiraodeda7962]

So it is September of 2024, I just learned of this- the cliff hanger is unreal. From my research Season 2 was to be released in February of 2023- what happened? No way am I watching anything dealing with Yellow Stone till I see what on earth happened from Season 1.

[@pjj9491]

Love this one best of alllllll Taylors endeavors...he us hitting his stride...

[@HpacEastern]

We don't know if Spencer and Alexandra have children or if they do have children if they stay at the ranch. His younger brother is most likely the one to carry on the Dutton line as we know it.

[@Patrick-xv6qv]

No, the current John Dutton (Kevin Costner) nor his children have an Britsh royal bloodline. His bloodline is not traced through Spencer or Alexandra but Spencer's brother and his nephew Jack Dutton.

[@susanb4816]

Being a peer doesn’t make you royal, you have to be part of the family for that

[@ianfeuerhake1859]

One of the priests looks like John Vernon, who played Dean Wormer in Animal House

[@debbywise7783]

Lol Ian my ol man said that too

[@traciemullet]

I remember being taught in school about the horrible treatment of the Indian youth in the Catholic schools as they were making them “civilized “. It bothered me then how horrible the church could be to anyone. To see it being played out in my living room on a large screen tv, is unbearable. I had to pause & walk away several times during the season. I didn’t ff, because I know it’s part of our history & we must recognize & learn from it…..but it was HARD to watch. It’s not a wonder they don’t like, or trust “the white man”.

[@kathleensmith1958]

I did the same thing.😢

[@diasioiii]

you left out the part where the captain says, "a sitting prince".....

[@paullucento]

Alexandra begin royalty has money will reunite with Spencer in Montana and she will pay off the Yellowstone debt for Jacob & Cora’s debt. However, I wish Sheridan would stay on the Yellowstone storyline, we don’t need to his dark side with the ladies beating each other, we already know the Governor’s a slime ball, we didn’t need to waste time on a couple of nude girls beating each other with a belt for the Governor’s kinky pleasure! Besides it took up time that we could have following the Yellowstone story more! And don’t you think Jack is John Dutton’s grandfather in 1923 and he and his wife will have John Dutton’s father 1933 who then has John Dutton 1953 being between 60-70 years old? More to the genealogical time line. Just basing that that I am 72 born in 1951, my Dad was born in 1923, and my grandfather in the late 1890’s. John Dutton is no spring chicken, and would just make sense in the Yellowstone storyline. And yes we (white settlers & the Christians esp. the Catholic ministry who felt that by their standards the indigenous people of America were savages, when in reality they had a much better social structure than what the white settlers had) did treat our Indian Brothers and Sisters terribly, and most people don’t know that part of the story of how the west was won, so that whole story line has been a very good education for that time period.

[@joshuamorgan5233]

I believe that too I believe Alexandria will come to Montana and pay off the debt.

[@shantishanti1949]

The recognition of the horrors brought on the native Americans by the catholic priests has been a brave move by Taylor Sheridan and I applaud him. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@paullucento]

@@shantishanti1949 yes agreed, and even tho the scenes are hard to watch finally someone is bringing to light why to this day the indigenous peoples of America don’t trust the white man! I am glad Sheridan is bringing that out, however the sodomitic scenes of 2 naked girls whipping each other for the pleasure of a man whom obviously has them captive against their wishes, has nothing to do with the Yellowstone storyline. We already know he is a slime ball, we don’t need to go off the rails showing it.

[@Nyrfan30]

Jack and Elizabeth can’t have JD’s(Costner) grandfather since they would be his grandparents, you meant to say father(who we saw played by Dabney Coleman).

[@rranswerman]

I figured Teonna was an ancestor of Rainwater but I should have figured that in pencil.