1930's clipper, not "Cutty Sark", possibly "Peking", or "Grace Harwar"

Original early 20th century footage of a clipper sailing from Sydney to London , one of the last of the great clippers

[@PatrickCurrie1]

This is in fact the Peking. I was shown the full video in the 1990's when doing my coxswain course at NSW TAFE. The remarkable thing is that at the end of the voyage, on the west coast of South America, the cargo was completely dry! I think the film maker was Alan Villiers who went on to become a captain in his own right.

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Sorry, but this most definitely is not the Peking, right at the start you clearly see she had a white painted hull, the Peking never did, also this has clipper rigging, Peking was a 4 masted Barque & much larger

[@tasman763]

The Sark was sold to Portuguese interests in 1895, and sailed until 1922. She was purchased by capt Dowman ( retired tall ship skipper ) and refurbished to original specification, and donated to the Thames Nautical Training College by his widow. This may NOT be The Cutty Sark, but it is great footage all the same. many thanks

[@rayhallworth3018]

Can't be the Peking . the Peking was a Barque or Windjammer not a SHIP rigged as vessel shown. .The Barque rig includes a Fore& aft rigged mast .

[@jfflwn7]

Peking IS a steel hulled, four masted barque....I spent over 2 years living aboard her when she was a training ship. Renamed "Arethusa". In the U.K. I have a copy of this film by Villiars.....This IS the Peking......Trust me.

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

I also spent time on Arethusa from 1970 until I think it was 75 when she closed, I believe from what I remember at the time due to rusted hull plates below the waterline which was too expensive to repair & was sold to an American museum. Loved my time on her moored on the river Medway at LR Upnor, learnt to sail, kayaking, seamanship, climbing the rigging on the foremast, sneaking to the cavity under the bowsprit to smoke, sleeping in hammocks above the mess deck, every morning have to tie away your hammock like a giant catapillar, best days of my life, But sorry, this is not Peking, rigging is wrong, at beginning of video they showed the ships hull as white, Peking or any of the other P liners were ever white

[@DoctorJackCasey]

This is not a clipper. There were no clippers left by the 1930's. The last days of sail were populated mostly by barque rigged (fore and aft sail on the mizzen) steel "windjammers." Clippers were sleek wooden vessels carrying immense amounts of sail all in the service of speed. This is likely footage taken by Alan Villiers aboard the Grace Harwar, which may have been the last full rigged ship (not a barque) to carry cargo around Cape Horn.

[@DouglasPollard]

+Jack Casey Jack I was born in 1934 IN Baltimore, You are likely right there may not have been any American clippers left in the 1930's . There were many Barks that came into Baltimore , most carrying Lumber from the Caribbean and South America . There were also some three masted Square riggers that came in and sailed from there. My family lived on the outskirts Of Baltimore and we could see them in the Potapsico river coming in and out. The family would get in the car and drive to the docks at Pratt and Light street in Baltimore to see them. I think but am not sure that Moshulu came in there in 1938 or 1939. I remember the neighbors talking about the event but I don;t think I saw her.. She was of course steel. Our German immigrant neighbors said she was built in Germany but belonged to another country. Our Neighbor was a ww1 German submariner and claimed he knew the ship.

[@DoctorJackCasey]

+Douglas Pollard - I have to say I'm envious Douglas. It must have been wonderful to see these magnificent wind ships plying the waters of your home town. Nowadays, we consider ourselves fortunate to see a "tall ships" regatta or to visit a museum ship like the Peking.

[@dymitie]

It could be cutty sarks sister ship that used to race her called Thermopylae.

[@5n0wman2]

My father sailed on the Cutty from the medway towns,where she was used as a traning ship, to Greenwich in the early 1950's

[@tamtic2k]

I just watched the Irving film and this is not it, its not the Peking. It was a much larger ship than this one, and the footage is different.

[@SkyPilot54]

Log of the Zaca makes reference to sighting this ship in its log book Zaca a luxury schooner going around in 30's outa Frisco

[@mikearakelian6368]

Life boats give wonder indeed; sure looks familiar....

[@dwayneknickle1651]

Peking four master,this three

[@migscratch]

Hi there. The ship is the Peking, that nowadays is in a deck in NY city. This footage belongs to a film shooted in 1929 that you can find in youtube, called Around Cape Horn, filmed and narrated by Irving Johnson a sailor of the crew. It´s a wonderful Historic document

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Sorry, but this is not Peking, Peking was a 4 mast Barque that sailed between Chile & Hamburg as a Nitrate carrier, she is now back in Germany fully restored

[@ACAhmann]

Also, at the time these videos were taken, Peking would have traded between Argentina and Hamburg, having nothing to do with London.

[@athame57]

Great video of a 'four poster' twentieth century sailing ship, (built 1890-1914ish) After my own heart!

[@CHEEKYB0Y]

Thanks, really glad you liked it. I thought it was worth sharing.

[@stevehyman9464]

I mostly agree with ChrisHH. The ships at anchor in the beginning seems somewhat loftier than the GRACE HARWAR and has a black painted hull which may be wooden. The GRACE originally carried painted gunports before being painted all white. The film is definitely a combination of vessels, the first wheel shot appears to be a double wheel but later ones show a single in a different position. Most likely a Villiers film but way to big for the diminutive JOSEPH CONRAD.

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Peking was not a Clipper, she was a 4 mast Barque windjammer, used for Nitrate carrier from S.America.

[@MrConan89]

I see the music was by Tom Waits. It sounded like Warren Zevon, the late great.

[@kujakupoet]

Many of these shots look like footage from 'Peking Round the Horn,' filmed in 1929 by a 17 year old trainee. If this is Peking, most of those sailors barely grown boys being led and trained by a small crew of professional sailors. The stern shots look very much like the Peking Round the Horn footage, with her boiling long at 16 knots under sail!

[@dks13827]

A lot of fun !!!!!

[@johnmartin1498]

Where is the storm sequence shot from the masthead of the great clipper rising and falling thru seething maelstrom of cape horn ? Possibly shot by basil lubbock, turn of the century, maybe Pekin or Pamir ?

[@janchristophathenstadt3167]

I am not sure if it is always the same vessel... The yard-arms look much bigger than the ones of the ship in the first frame...

[@alexbowater131]

Hi, nice video. The ship in question is the Grace Harwar. A ship used in the Australian grain trade. She was owned, with many other ships, by Gustaf Eriksson. The video was made by Alan Villiers and a shipmate of his. Alan Villiers also wrote an excellent book about the passage.

[@norbertaust5620]

No, this is not Grace Harvar. Grace Harvar was a three masted fully rigged ship. But this one here has four masts (see 4:16). This is one of the four masted barks running in the nitrate trade. Later wheat or wool from Australia to Europe.

[@dwayneknickle1651]

Hi again sorry I did miss that this ship has wooden ratting's as the Peking as rope,but as we all know there is only one peice of rope on board a ship and that will be on the ship's bell.

[@grafophone]

That is not Cutty Sark, but Tall Ship PEKING. Only photographs where taken on Cutty Sark by Captain Richard Woodget, a great captain, and amateur photographer, from 1885 to 1895.

[@keplermission]

Er click keplermission to see your introduction to the Scottish Fisheries Museum, I has to say Anstruther had some Tea Clipper Captains. Main ones were Rodger and Keay.

[@CosmasNDamian]

This doesn't look like the Peking. It lacks a midships island. It looks too small. Peking's scantlings are much bigger. Definitely spike bowsprit and lower/topmast of a steel ship of the late 19th century. Looks about 260- 280' in length. Ship rigged, not a barque like Peking. Painted white. Grace Harwar is the right length, ship rigged. Alan Villiers sailed in her with his friend Ron Walker. They made 6,000 feet of black and white film of their voyage. Walker was killed in a fall from the rigging during that voyage. Grace Harwar.

[@stevehyman9464]

Walker didn't fall, the halyard on the upper t'gallant parted and the yard crushed him. Villiers and crew had to retrieve the body from aloft.

[@warwicktsunami]

2:04 you can see the ships name on the steering box. It has far too many letters to be the Peking, Doesn't seem to read as Grace Harwar either.

[@stevehyman9464]

Possibly PREUSSEN.

[@jamesrickerby2756]

I have heard all the arguments for which ship she is, what I want to know is WHY we have a sailing ship CUTTY SARK, that's in a dry dock, that's probably rogered because of the last fire on board, millions spent on her and she's as much use as a dead frog. We were the greatest sailing nation of the seas, and yet when you she the tall ships visiting the Tyne or Hartlepool, which I have done NO SAILING ship is BRITISH? ITS AN AFFRONT To our NATIOn.

[@diamonddog257]

I think it's Villiers...'Joseph Conrad'.....on the Horn......

[@yachtabaco]

It's Grace Harwar, films by Villiers.

[@brigittecrimmins9503]

Hi Roger My Uncle Kurt was the young Sailor that fell out of the highest Mast 1929 in the English Chanel , did you know him by chance it was his last journey leaving Hamburg .he was going to be a Captain or starting School the next Year. He was 19 Years old .

[@Survivethejive]

My ancestor named this boat after his wife!

[@saturnalia100]

This is definitely NOT film taken on the Cutty Sark as none exists. She last sailed from Australia in 1895. This footage was most likely made in the 1930's.

[@TorbenGalster]

It´s defently not the Grace Harwar or Peking. Grace Harwar was a full ship and Peking was laid up as a school ship on the Themes river. I think it's Gustav Eriksons Penang, a three mast barque or the Winterhude.

[@Survivethejive]

+Torben Galster It isn't the Grace Harwar? she had three masts no?

[@mebeasensei]

Peking became a school ship later, no?

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Not the Peking, & Peking became a training ship on the river Medway, renamed 'Arethusa', permanently moored at Lower Upnor, I spent nearly 5 years on her

[@detlefkretschmer2917]

Sorry, but it is not the Peking. All Flying P Liners had a different rig. If you watch the film by Johnson, just look at the mizzen, you can see the most obvious difference.

[@henningo2006]

to me it looks like the word on the steerinbox are Pommern

[@leeweisbecker2213]

villiers on the conrad for sure

[@dwayneknickle1651]

Hello,I do not believe its the Peking as she has a double helm as it needed 4 men to run her,but saying this she is a great ship.

[@Oakleaf700]

Sailors of this type needed phenomenal strength both mentally and physically- just having permanently damp clothing in stormy seas would be bad enough- a job for the fit.

[@CHEEKYB0Y]

Cheers

[@OneOut1]

The Peking was a 4 masted brig. I don't think the superstructure is the same as The Peking as shown on Johnson's video either.

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Peking, or Arethusa as I knew her was a 4 masted Barque not a Brig, I spent nearly 5 years on her

[@CHEEKYB0Y]

You could well be right. I recorded this off the TV, ABC, (Australia) and I thought the narrator called her Cutty Sark, but maybe I got that wrong. So thanks for the correction. Do you know where to see those photos?

[@hurri7720]

The music is damned disturbing.

[@liarliarliar6495]

Wooden ships and iron men!

[@didiervandijk8714]

When men were men.

[@chrisbailey7820]

I know this is peking cool vid

[@nallepuh6969]

Eh I don't want to be a spoilsport but all the footage is from steel ships and taken from documentaries like "round cape horn" and so. Like that bowsprit there 0:15 is certainly not from cutty sark. So the description of this video is complete bullshit but the footage is great.

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Agreed, it also is not the Peking

[@sportsmancraft1]

Peking should not be sitting idle today. When is she going to Germany?