1945 Operation Carthage: Bombing Gestapo HQ | DCS Reenactment Mission

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[@pepperstinky]

this would be Operation Jericho

[@grimreapers]

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[@DDayJayke]

Wouldn't be a Grim Reapers video if at least 1 bomber didn't crash on takeoff. It always makes me laugh

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@Davivd2]

I've seen combat footage of this mission and it was some of the best footage I've ever seen. Mosquito's flying at roof level is beautiful to watch. There were a few shots in here that looked just like that and it was glorious.

[@lucky_luke4785]

Aunty: we aren't drifting Gyro: 155° Compass: 165° hilarious, great entertainment xD

[@chewyfoks1840]

Aunty is amazing, kept you on a perfect course despite your doubts Cap, they then schooled you (under pressure), into working the plane over France... surely the "Murdoch" of GR. Does he RIO Tomcats? I hope Mr Pickles makes better sandwiches in the future, Aunty deserves Brioche!

[@rats4044]

Excellent briefing!

[@kenhelmers2603]

These missions are great lunch time videos :) Thanks GR!

[@RSProduxx]

gotta admit, the engine sounds are fantastic.. and that´s an understatement

[@The_Real_Indiana_Joe]

They do sound wonderful!

[@JVR_Funwithdesign]

The real Operation Carthage (which as noted was the Copenhagen raid) was a huge disaster in terms of collateral damage. Due to a variety of factors and errors, almost 150 civilians were killed (mostly children) at a nearby school. There is a Dutch movie (English title is the Bombardment) that is on Netflix about the raid.

[@RossOneEyed]

excellent movie, even with the added "Hollywood" moments (the fore shadowing when he breaks the airplane, the love interest, etc).

[@phunkeehone]

Despite the very tragic accident with the children, it wasn't a complete disaster. The raid destroyed gestapo archives and core members of the resistance managed to escape during the chaos. If it didn't happen, gestapo would deliver a devastating strike to the resistance in Copenhagen. It doesn't give a parent their child back, I know. But how cynical it may sound, it was necessary.

[@RossOneEyed]

@@phunkeehone Sadly, war always boils down to this type of calculation.

[@phunkeehone]

@@RossOneEyed Unfortunately yes. War is (beyond) hell.

[@phunkeehone]

@Ryan Davies As tragic as it is, what would the result be if the raid didn't happen? Did England, Poland, France, Russia etc give up the fight due to civilian losses? What would happen, if they did? And it's not like the Mossie crews bombed the school deliberately. But I don't disagree with the fact that it was a horrible accident.

[@hasina1461]

I’m so glad you caught my hint to follow me as I wagged my wings in front Of you to drag over to the rest of the mosquitos I just couldn’t leave two mosquitos on there own to fend for themselves. Wouldn’t have been good for my ww2 conscious

[@grimreapers]

Yup I saw you boss :)

[@Bean-me5qh]

Great mission by Proper Charlie. Touching history lesson at the end, gave us an incite to the horrors of war. I can't imagine what the pilots must have gone through finding out about the school, let alone the families of all involved. Harrowing reminder. Bravo PC, great work.

[@timcoles7007]

Thanks Bean. ~ Charlie.

[@AllanFolm]

I suggested this a few months ago. Operation Carthage was a mission to attack Gestapo in Copenhagen, Denmark to free some resistance fighters.

[@OfficialRedDirtNurse]

Except they bombed a school, killing many children and civillians.

[@grimreapers]

Yup had it on the list since then. We had to change it about a bit.

[@AllanFolm]

@@grimreapers Yes, there probably isn't a map of Copenhagen you could use.

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

The Gestapo headquarters was in a building called Shellhus (Shell House) the head office of the Shell Oil company pre-war.

[@stefankwiatkowski5241]

A great moment in the history of the RAF: What airfield did we take off from? I don't know.

[@SolarWebsite]

Fortunately, the rest was all a display of quality airmanship, the flawless take-offs (no hint of a stall), the precision formation flying, the accurate navigation... The flying with navigation lights on, it just went on. Much fun to watch though 😁

[@grimreapers]

lols!

[@bmoney2011]

The banter between you and your co-pilot is fantastic. Also, RIP that one bloke that ate some trees on takeoff.

[@LiamTucker]

DampSok

[@SolarWebsite]

12:06 Doubting your navigator, out loud, over the radio. That's a confidence booster 🤣

[@grimreapers]

We have a history of getting lost.

[@RyTrapp0]

History + last minute lead = everyone doubting everything, lol

[@jimgreene951]

Aunty is no R2D2 unit !

[@Vekurus]

The Mosquito must have been a scary plane to see coming over the trees

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@RyTrapp0]

But it has such an adorably innocent name!

[@JD96893]

Dear cap: buy a note pad and a pen... also don't they sell flight sim kneeboards? Really enjoy these WW2 missions in DCS. Its always fun seeing who will crash on take off lol.

[@roderickval]

Loved it! Realistic and Fun Boys & Gals

[@watcherzero5256]

"Which way are we going?" "I dont know, where did we take off from?"

[@LogicalNiko]

Its one of those great moments when your navigator doesn't know what airfield you’re taking off from. 🤣🤣🤣

[@esbenhoffmann5421]

Nice to see this video. and a mission I myself have thoughts of doing. I will try to do this mission though, somewhere inside Paris. But I haven't started, just need to have some more experience with DCS My mother has told me and Operation Carthage. She was 13 years old and experienced the bombing of the French school. (Institute Joan of Arc)

[@SoundzAlive1]

Cap you are the only person in 1945 to lose his Internet!!!! André in Sydney

[@RSProduxx]

nice fireball during take-off :)

[@das250250]

Very cool experience

[@jhonbus]

It's always a good day when you haven't accidentally killed any schoolchildren!

[@tiadiad]

Simba doing her thing: 8:46 Edit: and again.....Simba at her finest 54:38

[@grimreapers]

lols!

[@JP_Stone]

I love the Reapers I hope one day I can join your misfit group of misfits. Looks like a lot of fun sincerely. Cheers cap and the boys and thank you for the content.

[@stephenbrown321]

It’s the Where the fuckawe squadron.

[@MAYDAYSIMULATIONS]

Warbird missions be the best missions😄

[@jimbograves1576]

Don't be so concerned with where you took off from. Just get back across the channel and find a nice flat grassy field and you've done very well.

[@raymondyee2008]

"The Bombardment" brought me to here.

[@rodbey9318]

Cap needs to tattoo conversion km/h to MPH to backside of hand

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@erikerice9068]

The 51's look nice in the British camo.

[@rodbey9318]

Couldn't imagine what it would take to swim the channel.

[@RSProduxx]

can´t imagine what THAT takes... :O

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

*_"CHARLIE DON'T..."_* {You know the rest. 😉}

[@shawnmcgrath2182]

I would like to see if a huge star wars rebels fleet fight against a star destroyer

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@482Brisbane369]

In the context of the time setting in 1945 I take the leader of the raid would be a well vetted and experienced pilot. Did you take this into account when organizing the flight structure n flight cnc in air? Considering pilot attrition what % of a mission raid flight would consist of inexperienced to experienced pilots? Would it be common for a flight to be disoriented over friendly air space? ( it would be more common over enemy air space with lack of partisan resistance assistance / clear geographical features / radio beam sensor orientation equipment in larger aircraft. ) Visual Line of Sight experienced pilots at the absolute minimum should be able to keep oriented on a flight leader even in radio equipment failure.

[@richardvernon317]

The lead pilot and Navigator on the raid were two of the best in RAF 2nd Tactical Air Force. The AOC of 83 Group flew in as the number 2. Both, plus the 3rd crew to attack hit the lower part of the target. 4th Mosquito was flown by the CO of 21 Squadron RAF. He was newly posted into the unit and though an experienced Mosquito pilot with a Pathfinder tour behind him, was not an expert low flyer. He clipped a 30 feet high floodlight town in the city's rail yard that caused the aircraft to crash into a Garage complex next to the school. The last two Mosquitos in the first wave had to veer off to avoid the 4th aircraft and one of them failed to get his bombs on target (bombs hit the building behind the target). The Australians in the second wave of six mosquitos one minute behind had the smoke of the burning garage between the IP and the target, The SOP for the second and third wave was to bomb on the smoke, which was much greater from the burning Garage than from the target behind it. 4 Mosquitos from the second wave realised that the smoke wasn't from the correct target and aborted. 2 went home and the other two bombed the correct target. the other two aircraft of the second wave bombed the school. The third wave of six Mosquitos operated by the RNZAF, only one realised that the smoke was not from the target and aborted, the other five bombed the school. No Electronic radar and radio navigation was used, the whole mission being flown on the deck from the UK to the Target and back and in a Gale!!! Danish Resistance had provided excellent targeting information including up to date photographs of the Shellhus building from the direction of the IP. Germans had also painted the building in camouflage colours making it stand out like a sore thumb. 4 Mosquitos out of 20 and 2 Mustangs out of 30 were lost on the raid, plus one Mosquito did a belly landing the the home base. The aircraft lost were all hit by light flak (bar the one that hit the tower). All of the Flak over the target came from a German Cruiser in the harbour. They shot down a Mustang and badly damaged a mosquito that landed in the sea while trying to get to Sweden. Two Mosquitos were shot down by light flak as they exited Danish coast to the north and a Mustang belly landed due to battle damage just before crossing the Danish coast on the way home.

[@vintagepairdisplayteam910]

Love a WW2 mission. Tow things from me: 1) GR pilots need some tailwheel training! Their takeoffs are awful 😂 2) please can mission editors change the codes for RAF machines from numbers to letters? Example EG-T for a Mosquito. Helps the immersion for external views (I know, I’m purist!)

[@TotallyNotRedneckYall]

"Have you ever been tested for ADHD?" I bet you hear that a lot!

[@grimreapers]

lol yup

[@LoneWolf051]

Ive seen a Mustang break 500 mph :)

[@grimreapers]

wow!

[@LoneWolf051]

@@grimreapers kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqmmlmiEorirrLM here it is...

[@Blixer7]

Why is it so chancy durring these takeoffs? Is it controller sensitivity?

[@grimreapers]

People haven't practiced these planes for several months, takes a few goes to remember how to fly them.

[@Blixer7]

Thank you for your prompt reply. Cheers 🍻

[@ianinvancouverbc]

the Danish made a movie of this mission

[@spacetragedy]

Can we please have the English Electric Lightning on dcs already.

[@rogerpennel1798]

My pitch for a new mission is your client has been suffering heavy air-to-air losses due to their enemy that received a shipment of 6 new aircraft and AAMs. Your mission is to assault their heavily defended airbase and neutralize the defenses for a helicopter assault that will bring in pilots to steal the aircraft and the missiles reversing the balance of power in the region.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@gruntopolouski5919]

Wasn’t the Mosquito wooden? Could they be detected by the radar of the time? Not saying the setup was wrong… more doubting what I thought I knew!

[@richardvernon317]

Radar didn't detect them because they were at zero feet all the way from the UK to Denmark and back.

[@streamer_services]

R.i.p. to all the kids that died in that shitfest

[@pjtren1588]

Operation Dead French tell no tales. Give them an opportunity to escape lol.

[@roytelling6540]

A mission you could try, is when the Mosquitoes carried out two attacks timed to disrupt speeches being delivered by Reich's marshal Hermann Goering and Joseph Goebbels speeches on January the 30th 1943. see IF? you can get there at the right time? As they did. THAT'S IF YOU CAN???????

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@maxjohn6012]

How much are these spectacular take-offs due to DCS and how much due to pilot ability?

[@LiamTucker]

It's the unique skill of The Grim Reapers 😍

[@grimreapers]

Pilots.

[@lorneleahan8614]

Hey Cap and team, could you consider doing a simulation of China invading Australia by sea, air and eventually land? China has already done the economic invasion, but being an Australian, would like to see what would be the outcome of a combined air and sea attack. Might be time to move away from any big Australian city. Thanks.

[@winstonsmith8441]

Cap, you grudgingly expressed the opinion that the Mustang was probably the best warbird of WWII. If you already know the following, then forgive me for boring you. However, if you don't already know, it may make you feel better about appreciating the Mustang if you knew that it was really a British airplane. North American designed the Mustang in response to a 1940 requirement from the British Purchasing Commission and the prototype first flew in September 1940. It originally had an Allison engine, but it wasn't until it got the Merlin that it really hit its stride. The US did not adopt the Mustang till later in the war.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Winston!

[@clydepointe5857]

P-47 Thunderbolt. The most enemy aircraft downed. Most survivable; higher altitude, higher climb rate.

[@benjaminnilsson390]

Unrealistc, you didnt Reenact the killing of 86 children

[@vxp444]

Probably first