1953 U.S. NAVY PILOT TRAINING FILM "THE F2H-2 BANSHEE AIRCRAFT SYSTEM" EARLY NAVY JET PLANE 81494

[@Frobozz02]

I have an untold amount of hours in this plane. I used to just sit in the cockpit for hours. You see, one of these planes was in a park in Vero Beach, Florida. Throughout the 70's, I would sit in the cockpit and imagine flying it. I also used to climb on the wings and rear stabilizer and, when I was smaller, I used to slide under the wings and up into the engine areas on either side. Eventually, the city put concrete to prevent kids from accessing these areas. Initially, I used to sit in the seat and there were wires and such hanging down behind the instrument panel (no instruments). At some point, the city filled the cockpit half way with concrete and then later filled it to the bottom of the canopy. My understanding is that, in the late '80s, someone realized this was the last surviving example of this plane. It was removed from the park, restored, and placed in the naval air museum in Pensacola Florida. They painted it black to make it look like the Marine Corps version, but this aircraft was originally bare metal (aircraft grade aluminum). This is a link to the naval air museum website page of the banshee and a photo of the very plane that I played in/on as a child. www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nnam/explore/collections/aircraft/f/f2h-2p-photo-banshee.html

[@garyteague4480]

Thanks great story

[@b6schilke996]

My grandfather built the wind tunnel models for McDonnell on many aircraft and the Mercury space capsule. I remember him telling me how beautiful the banshee was.

[@stefanschutz5166]

Thanks once again from Amsterdam. You’re doing a great job, Periscope. Stefan

[@billyponsonby]

12:32 station selection switch likely to result in embarrassing screw-ups? Interesting and enjoyable video, thanks

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[@jeffyoung60]

The F2H Banshee was a good, early first generation U.S. Navy jet fighter aircraft. Now the U.S. Navy knew that better and faster jets with improved engines were on the way. But now was the time to jump wholly into the new age of jet aircraft rather than procrastinate for better jet aircraft. The early Banshees were capable of something like, 450 mph. I believe this figure improved to around 520 or 540 mph. So in the grand scheme of things, the Banshee, while well-designed as you can see above, was already obsolescent upon its deployment. But the U.S. Navy anticipated this. The F6H Panther jet was on its way. The resemblance between the Banshee and the Panther is remarkable. The Panther was much improved in performance and armament. It could reach 580 mph. It's armament was a potent, quartet of 20mm cannon while the new USAF insisted on retaining the .50 caliber M2 heavy machine gun. The Panther carried the brass ring for the U.S. Navy in the Korean War, 1950-53. By then the Banshee had been relegated to training duties. The Soviet Union followed a similar path. Limited to German jet technology, using slightly improved copies of the Jumo 004B jet engine, the Soviets produced the Yak-15 and Yak 17. Both were inferior in performance to British and American jets and the Soviets knew this. But they needed to jump start their own jet fighter program and industry, now, and not later. It was actually a practical decision. The Soviets manufactured small numbers of the Yak jets, expecting better and improved designs. This came in the stupidity of the British Clement Atlee government which looked upon the Soviet Union as a brother socialist nation that Britain could do business with and should do business with. Do not blame all the British for this incredible act of stupidity, as historians keep saying. The British Ministry of Defense, the British Army general staff, the Tory Party, and former prime minister Winston Churchill vehemently and vociferously opposed this brain-dead decision, to no avail. The Atlee government transferred free, several superb British Nene jet engines, capable of 5,000-lbs thrust apiece, to the Soviet Union. Even Stalin was gobsmacked that an adversary would willingly hand over military secrets. To show his gratitude, Stalin had non-licensed copies of the Nene engine mass-produced. Britain received zero money. Also, Stalin referred to the British as, fools. Plasiba, tovarich. You're welcome. Formerly limited to the Jumo 004B, with a thrust of only 2,100-lbs (the Soviet improved version), the Nene's 5000-lbs axial flow engine gave the Russians unprecedented opportunities. It resulted in the excellent MiG-15 and its even better MiG-17 successor. More, the Nene jet engine technology jump-started Russian jet engine research and development. Ten years later the Soviets were fielding jet engines with 10,000-lbs thrust. And the rest is history. The British People came to their senses and re-elected Churchill. But the damage was already done.

[@lobsterbark]

Weird seeing deranged anticommunism out in the wild like that. Like can you even hear yourself?

[@jeffyoung60]

@@lobsterbark Deranged anticommunism? Where did you perceive that, comrade lobsterbark? I see you're part of the Dark State, especially with your anonymous moniker. I simply restated world history as it happened, not as you WANT it to be. But then again the left wing new world order of which you're a part of wants to rewrite history to suit the new 1984 world order: race based politics, woke cancel culture, gender identify politics, global warming religion, truth repression and suppression of real news. Yes, tovarich, I get where you're coming from. Have a blessed day. Plasiba.

[@duartesimoes508]

Oh, we know much too well that we all pay for the blunders of some politicians. Just ask the Scots, or the Ukrainians when Yanukovych leaned too much towards Russia and started the deadly spiral that we all see now... Not new information about the Nene to me, but very well written overall, congratulations! 👏👏

[@jamesgraham6122]

Very interesting. The aircraft systems look to be wonderfully simple compared to what we have today...The weapons system looks to be an ergonomic disaster waiting to happen. I loved the positioning and design of the bomb release, exactly like the transmit switch for radio comms. oops ! Would love to have one as my personal transport.. lovely looking a/c.

[@panosvrionis8548]

Early jetfighter 😎😎 For real man!!!

[@jasonrhodes9683]

it was a turd wagon and never distinguished itself in any meaningful way.

[@asquare9316]

@@jasonrhodes9683 that's because it was made by McDonnell and not Grumman haha

[@jasonrhodes9683]

@@asquare9316 F-15 C, 100 to 0 kill ratio.

[@asquare9316]

@@jasonrhodes9683 you are correct, congratulations.

[@busman7228]

Just like Jason

[@ronjon7942]

Gold standard historical films. These are a great flight sim reference.

[@glhx2112]

Sitting here watching this, saying to myself, "I can fly this"....then I get to the part of the vid covering the Station Selection Switch settings...... yeah, I'm going to need more training. 😁

[@garyteague4480]

What beautiful jet plane

[@CenobiteBeldar]

That plane looks fun to fly.

[@normanriggs848]

LOL, I wish my B747 school was this simple!

[@garymckee448]

Well this does it , I could never fly an aircraft. I'm washed out just watching this 😆

[@HotelPapa100]

It's basically just an enumeration of the systems present. No details of functions are explained; you have to know these beforehand. Training involves a lot more than just such a film.

[@ronjon7942]

Hah, nice. Know the feeling. (to Gary,obviously.)

[@GaZonk100]

lol

[@duartesimoes508]

As always with Periscope, a very interesting film about a nice little known aircraft. I read somewhere that the bridges of Toko Ri were actually attacked by Banshees and not F9F Phanters unlike what we see in the movie. Is that so?

[@ahmarisamuel3252]

trying to get my knowledge up for warthunder

[@speedyconcretepumper]

Great shooting practice for mig 15 pilots

[@jasonrhodes9683]

which then made aces of many F86 Sabre pilots.

[@GaZonk100]

imagine designing those consoles...I mean, who does that!

[@HM2SGT]

Cutting edge 70 years ago. I wonder how different things are today? Not very I'm suppose I'm gonna mostly refinements on the foundation of this technology I would guess.

[@JackF99]

Seems like the main revolutionary new items are exotic materials for light weight, shape and coatings for stealth, and of course computers for nav, flight controls, target aquisition. Everything else like aero, weapons, and engine seems evolutionary.

[@asquare9316]

@@JackF99 jet engines are very different than they were then. do some research on early jets vs. modern jets. modern as in 2022 in case this stays around for awhile.

[@JackF99]

@@asquare9316 ok computer controlled, more bypass than turbojet, and exotic materials but a jet engine is still the same basic architecure- compressor, combustor, turbine.

[@ravensinger5029]

@@JackF99 We're still using the wheel too. Clearly, not everything needs to be super-exotic to be functional. Some things are just good designs from the get go, but that doesn't negate future improvements on the theme.

[@JackF99]

@@ravensinger5029 Absolutely. I was acknowledging the question from Wasn't Tomorrow Wonderful. Mostly because that's the best KZbin username I've heard.

[@billcoleman4232]

I. Was a d j on them. In 1958

[@jackhouston357]

where do we see this for f 35?

[@danischeel4846]

James Lovell flew this!

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

VHF radio? I'm going to have to research what radios were used during WW2 and on...UHF vs VHF.

[@jeffbrebner6688]

Does that rocket selector switch seem confusing or is that just me?

[@vikingcockney.69]

It doesn't make sense to me from a weight loading or aerodynamic point of view, but maybe someone else can explain why it was the way it was.

[@RocketToTheMoose]

I watched it a few times and I don't get it either. Plus he explains how positions 5-8 correspond to individual stations, but then says 5-8 can be used to launch pairs of weapons.

[@mechrhg]

the principles are the same as today,we are way ahead of other countries in so many ways,look at this fckr unreal,I thought i could wire anything,yet i cant even get a date,or a friend for the matter.I could however fly it,its in my blood.The banshee,I remember it.so ahead of today even really,great video and insight ,I fly cessnas,or I did,I quit all aviation activities now.I have a airframe powerplant license,its useless now.

[@bikenavbm1229]

I bet that pylon switch caused a little bit of aggro, planes were pretty then. thanks

[@deafmusician2]

The guy hanging off the aileron as it's moving makes me cringe EVERY TIME (I'm a retired a&p)

[@matthewtE]

Watch your fingies

[@user-wg1nx4vq9h]

😂😂Ja ich kann Fliegen

[@georgiamurphy4414]

The married mirror technologically support because desire steadily join but a true produce. spotted, erratic tuesday

[@prophetforprofit1431]

Great stuff but I don't think it should be on the internet for all to see one comment even referred to it as great simulator training flight course just saying

[@richness1644]

Well, I made it to 5:14. You really need to get rid of that garbage time counter and the “ownership” banner so we can not be distracted and have to stop watching. Otherwise I would love to watch more of these vids. I am more likely than not to just give them a skip. Join the 20th century and put a “bug” on one of the lower corners. It would make these much more fun to watch. I’m not trying to be a little bi$@h here. Just trying to be helpful. OK, I want to watch your videos too, but for the life of me that stuff at the bottom is just annoying for me. Especially when there are actual titles from the original that are covered up.

[@PeriscopeFilm]

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[@maysammirzakhalili4862]

😭😭😭😭😭I want one of these just to full fill my need as a perfectionist. Taking care of it , pampering it !!! Oh my God 🙏🏻🙏🏻 🌹 what a useless we Iranian are ???

[@psutherla]

.... What?

[@maysammirzakhalili4862]

@@psutherla we are not even be able to produce a hammer !!! From our own Iron mins 😭😭. But we give USA 🇺🇲 $( that you gave it to us) !!! To terrorists and anarchist to destroying USA !!! Let us die in our idiotic culture 🤦🏻‍♂️ please don't sign any kind of deals with our regimes, people and government !!! Only 100% forbid !!! Until we confess to our lies 🤥!!!

[@stonerman15]

Lol wat

[@robertstack2144]

A very "pretty" airplane. Unfortunately......worthless

[@panosvrionis8548]

Imagine the horror flying one of these

[@Doodlesthegreat]

Not completely. They did okay escorting bombers in Korea until the MIG-15 was brought in by Chinese & Russian forces, and even then they did well in ground attack due to the lack of modern AA systems. It was a stopgap until the USN could start fielding swept-wing designs, and as such, it did the job it was asked to.

[@F4Wildcat]

@@Doodlesthegreat Aye. It was like the M47. Stopgap untill technology catched up. And after that the US leapt forwards and kept doing that.

[@asquare9316]

@@Doodlesthegreat the Grumman Panther was straight-winged and was superior to this McDonnell jalopy haha

[@jamesmason8052]

Anyone familiar with military documents pertaining to flying should wonder why pilots are told to assume a flat non rotating earth. Research Flat Earth.

[@JackF99]

Why don't you flat-earth folks pool your resources and put your trusted leaders into a chartered business jet and let them fly wherever they want to find the edge of the Earth and not see the curvature of the Earth? They can take pix of it for the rest of us who right now get our information from the millions of astronomers, astrophysicists, aerospace engineers,astronauts, airline pilots, sailors, college professors, high school teachers and government administrators around the world who are apparently participating together in a huge conspiracy to lie to us. All those millions of educated people must have to get on a giant Zoom call every month or so to keep their story straight! Huge burden you will relieve them of when you get those pix!

[@RG-od8ri]

Dolt

[@mikesmyth8330]

No

[@asquare9316]

I am a pilot, and have never been told that.

[@Smalltar]

I have researched flat earth and all signs point to it being round. What's the next step?

[@stefanschutz5166]

Thanks once again from Amsterdam. You’re doing a great job, Periscope. Stefan

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