1956 The Amazing DIY Clay Battery - A Safe Battery Anyone Can Make

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Robert Murray-Smith

Robert Murray-Smith

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@SmokeGrinder
@SmokeGrinder Жыл бұрын
This man is the crazy fun science teacher we all should have had in school.
@Opethian777
@Opethian777 Жыл бұрын
Well they have de-educated folks a bit perhaps? "youtube guidelines " a little icing on the cake ...
@timreeves6296
@timreeves6296 Жыл бұрын
Imagine what would happen if you put people like this in a school
@cdevidal
@cdevidal Жыл бұрын
I had a crazy fun science teacher in school. He dropped a dead cat off a second story ledge to demonstrate the speed of acceleration by gravity 😂
@alvinengstrom
@alvinengstrom Жыл бұрын
Amen to that
@daphneraven6745
@daphneraven6745 Жыл бұрын
@smokeGrinder: We have him now; perhaps that’s enough. Kind of like a second chance at physics class, for grown-ups.
@liminal_wolf
@liminal_wolf Жыл бұрын
My man. You are awesome. Your love for science is contagious my brother. Thank you
@AndreaDingbatt
@AndreaDingbatt Жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert!! Simplicity and safety are not to be underestimated!! Gratefully Appreciated!!
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle Жыл бұрын
I for one am impressed by your attire. Quite classy I should say, good on you old boy good on you!
@Lon1001
@Lon1001 8 ай бұрын
So many people are obsessed with free-energy/perpetual-motion, as if its some game changer... when all along all we need to do is realize how abundant the energy in nature is already.
@ObservingPerception24x7
@ObservingPerception24x7 Жыл бұрын
I love your enthusiasm and love all your content. Super informative as usual! 🙏
@VeniceInventors
@VeniceInventors Жыл бұрын
Amazing! So you can generate electricity twice from rain water, once from the gravitational pull and again from dumping it in clay.
@carolday3381
@carolday3381 Жыл бұрын
That’s insane. In all the right ways. But dude! For real? I want to build one now.
@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542
@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542 Жыл бұрын
And technically, its reversible at the same time you are recharging it, if you can find a cheap way to develop a vacuum in the clay chamber.
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Жыл бұрын
Problem is, the energy it takes to make the hot side hot and the cool side cool can be used more efficiently if used directly.
@bartronicsecurity
@bartronicsecurity Жыл бұрын
Now what if you put another tin on top of the zurlite and use the heat to cook/ warm up some food. In this way a hiker could charge his cell phone while heating up some food all thanks to a little bit of clay and river water.
@matsonnerby
@matsonnerby Жыл бұрын
I like the idea. The import question is how efficient it is to reverse the reaction. And how efficient is the transformation from heat to electricity. Usually the gas laws limits how efficient the heat to electricity transformation is, but I don’t see any gas involved in this processes. Is it more efficient than the gas laws predicts ?
@digidof21
@digidof21 Жыл бұрын
Zeolite clay, peltier device, marble countertop, thermal paste contact in a form of graphite foil, steel tin, water, steel metal cover, few minutes, place in thermos, = HARRY POTTER clay battery + bulb and LUMOS!!!!
@intertonality9846
@intertonality9846 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing technology, how about all those clay urns on Old-world buildings? Could those have been a variation of this technology?
@nolan412
@nolan412 Жыл бұрын
Makes me think of the, probably, adobe ball I accidently made as kid leaving a ball of clay, sand, and mud in the sun.
@guygranger7894
@guygranger7894 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I know that you can also get current but inserting lead and zinc spikes in the earth,but how long does it keep going and ,how large of an area would you need to charge batteries to power your home ????
@capoeirastronaut
@capoeirastronaut Жыл бұрын
Keeping the Bilbo Baggins look alive 😊 V interesting vid thx
@zenmanproject
@zenmanproject Жыл бұрын
The only issue with this is that TEG is made from quite a few rare earth elements such as Tellurium, Bismuth, Selenium and Antimony. There's not enough Te, Se or Bi on earth to make anything of mass scale. Tin and Sulfur make the most efficient TEG but the temperatures needed are quite high. What we need is a TEG that operates at temperatures like Bismuth Telluride but are made from elements like carbon, silicon and sulfur. Those are in the same columns on the Periodic table as Tin and Sulfer, it's possible in the right combination they'll have similar thermoelectric properties.
@lazone3184
@lazone3184 Жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE
@worldingalaxy
@worldingalaxy Жыл бұрын
Nice video, 🎉luv from India
@spaaggetii
@spaaggetii Жыл бұрын
This is well kind of a good thing. But I am guessing it has to have the metal content in the clay ? Unfortuantly everything depletes so it would not be viable long term as in years etc or it would have been used prior.
@Buongona
@Buongona Жыл бұрын
You could make a maintainable perpetual motion machine from this stuff...Use concentrated sunbeams/Solar panels, depending on location, to dry the clay during day and feed some pebbels/min to discharge at night... @Robert Murray-Smith, which laboratory grade clay pebbels did you use for this? What specs?
@DMaN333v
@DMaN333v Жыл бұрын
How much power did the battery produce?
@davidsmall7452
@davidsmall7452 Жыл бұрын
what's actually creating the heat?Is this to do with the process where water is entering its fourth state which as you know is water as jelly ,which is the surface tension of water ?Is it the water that is heating? Or both? Or the particles of the clay?
@baware80
@baware80 Жыл бұрын
Make a Thermos based device out of it... lets see the true potential. Also you mentioned its rechargeable in the sense that you let it dry out and then add water once again, but I'm assuming that as you keep drying it out and adding water that eventually you will need to add more of the clay?
@terencegalland
@terencegalland Жыл бұрын
can it be scaled up for household appliances ???
@danmyself5341
@danmyself5341 Жыл бұрын
This is called a TEG, A THERMAL ELECTRIC GENERATOR. It generates electricity due to the Seebeck effect. The efficiency on average is 4.5%. they require a large difference in temperature to be effective. They are not commercially viable due to the fact that they use a rare chemical called tellurium. They are prone to failure because the substrate used to sandwich the chemicals are ceramic, and can crack. The cells are built in series, so if one cell fails, it a all fails.
@kathyrichmond5835
@kathyrichmond5835 Жыл бұрын
5:52 hi Robert. So I have just been watching an electroculture video with a chap called van Doorn, looking at antenna with galvanised steel at the top. An anecdote was that someone had grounded this into a tub of water to 'electrify' the water. This was rather too successful and he got a fatal electric shock. Which makes me wonder-can this be done safely to create a battery?. Apologies if already covered
@shadetreemechanicracing22
@shadetreemechanicracing22 Жыл бұрын
Not all things that dissolve generate heat. Some things get cold.
@jeremynicoletti9060
@jeremynicoletti9060 Жыл бұрын
couldn't you also incorporate something like this into an existing wood stove setup?
@jacobopstad5483
@jacobopstad5483 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this could be used for purifying water at the same time
@draganmiletich3013
@draganmiletich3013 Жыл бұрын
So, Zeolit X13 is clay? Even if it is, it cannot be found readily in the nature. So, we would have to buy it?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
it's around US$6 per kilo - there are systems already designed with US$0.06 perkWh costs and 20 year life span running for solar for the drying phase
@2HighNoon
@2HighNoon Жыл бұрын
For one thing it’s a reaction so it’s not a battery. And what is in the clay that’s having a major reaction.. Clay isn’t reactive to water, it’s some trace element or something you added to the clay..
@2HighNoon
@2HighNoon Жыл бұрын
Seems faked or you didn’t tell us about a major component of the clay. You talk intelligent about it too. So I suspect this is intentional deception. Smoke and mirrors perhaps? Love those little thermal chips. So many practical uses.
@william1863
@william1863 Жыл бұрын
Since when does a little bit of water mixed in with clay make it hot ? I never seen that happen . Whats in the clay over seas ? 🤔
@StalkedByLosers
@StalkedByLosers Жыл бұрын
Does the clay get hot woth water because of Lime content?
@GlevoTec
@GlevoTec Жыл бұрын
I don't often comment, but this is really interesting. The pure simplicity of it, combined with reusability and safety. Just wow. Would love to see more of this concept
@dudedudeson9732
@dudedudeson9732 Жыл бұрын
Oh you will. As soon as Musk claims credit for inventing it like he did with the salt batt we will see this come into prominence.
@Livinghighandwise
@Livinghighandwise Жыл бұрын
@@dudedudeson9732 Please stop with the misinformation. Tesla did not patent the salt battery. They patented a technique that uses salt to more cheaply extract lithium from ore.
@dudedudeson9732
@dudedudeson9732 Жыл бұрын
@@Livinghighandwise I never said they did so STFU. I said Musk tried taking credit for it.And he did which is true not dis info Fing POS
@royharkins7066
@royharkins7066 Жыл бұрын
Like a clay water wheel using fresnel lenses to bake the clay then dunk bake dunk WOW steam as well 😂😊
@reypolice5231
@reypolice5231 Жыл бұрын
I would think that since it seems to be somewhat granulated chunks, to add Sand at the bottom and mixed in would improve heat transfer: with the sand as the heat sink as a sand battery. He mentioned a thermos as a container, but that's double-walled, with the air gap is an insulator. So if I used to thermos, as the vessel, I would think of drilling a hole from the outside and fill it with sand in the air gap space. Hence the sand battery in the air gap space also. The only problem with the thermostat is it's round and the peltier device is flat and square. The cover the whole thing with peltier devices would be somewhat of a challenge unless you were able to melt aluminum from scrap and make a mounting plate. Or keep dipping the thermostat into a crucible of molten aluminum like a candle is made.
@fyremoon
@fyremoon Жыл бұрын
There is a synthetically produced zeolite clay material called a molecular sieve. These have pores in the material that adsorb water (and other chemicals depending on the diameter of the pores) which produce intense heat when exposed to water. They are used as desiccants to create very dry environments and adsorb more water faster than silica gels, and they are reusable. You can activate them by drying them with a heat source like a rocket stove for a few hours then store them in a dry enclosure until they are needed.
@ModelLights
@ModelLights Жыл бұрын
'by drying them with a heat source like a rocket stove' EXACTLY! And you'll be 10 times better off using the heat from your rocket stove to make power directly than trying to do this and having the huge efficiency loss of using the later heating effect. This is 'no-brainer' type stuff, drying is a terrible process, the moment you go into or out of 'drying' it's going to be a loss. ' a heat source like a rocket stove for a few hours ' Incredible amounts of energy in, tiny amounts of energy out.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
@@ModelLights Yeah, air drying would be a better option, and that would take days to actually dry out, if not longer. I don't imagine this would be useful for day to day usage, but it is interesting and maybe an option for ultra long term energy storage and use. Something like a fallout shelter where using a lever to turn on something would physically dump water into a bucket of clay and that power would charge a capacitor to start a generator using some stable fuel that requires extra input energy to get started yet doesn't degrade like gasoline does.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades Жыл бұрын
@@anon_y_mousse Maybe using rcket stove for hours can be a waste, but all this excessive heat from sunny days and summers... Whe need to formalise a system to make it easy to use for showering and house heating.... Maybe solar "logs" ...?
@Caddowolf
@Caddowolf Жыл бұрын
You don't always have to use the same clay. It could easily be changed out every time the heat has dissipated. It could dry for as long as needed and re-used later. Clay is plentiful.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades Жыл бұрын
@@Caddowolf 👍 And if strong heat is needed, we could have some district solar concentrator where you bring back your used zeolite packs, and take back home baked ones...
@PrimeStudios
@PrimeStudios Жыл бұрын
What exactly is the mechanism at work? Is it chemical or physical? How many times can this process be repeated? Does the power output vary over cycles? Could the water be recaptured when drying used again in a closed cell?
@twidgevr
@twidgevr Жыл бұрын
Physical, water molecules being adsorped by the zeolite release kinetic energy as heat as it gets trapped in nano-pores of just the right size by van der walls forces. Drying doesn't cause any damage to the zeolite, so practically forever, or until it becomes too contaminated by other substances since it adsorbs other things like ammonia as well. Drying requires heat, basically adding kinetic energy back to the water molecules until they overcome the van der walls force. This will come out as steam, so yes it can be recaptured but mind the pressure involved.
@MrBrew4321
@MrBrew4321 Жыл бұрын
It's physical, it's an entropy thing. Zeolite 13x is a molecular scale sieve. Further the surface on the crystals is repulsive to the room temperature water. But the water pushes its way into the high surface area interior of the zeolites, and the slower colder molecules can squish inside further and faster, and do so ever better by kicking the hot ones the the exterior. So it seems like energy is coming out, but really it's just spontaneously rearranging itself to be more comfortable. A very small amount of energy is chemical bonds breaking, it is from the hot water action destroying a very small amount of the crystal, but this particular formulation 13x, is very stable so that isn't really relevant, except for we probably need that to be even less to have a repeatability for thermal storage.
@rodciferri9626
@rodciferri9626 Жыл бұрын
Enclose it all to collect the water back into a reservoir above the zeolite. When the wet Peltier dries and reaches ambient temperature, a thermostatic switch can turn on a second Peltier, wired to generate electricity as the zeolite dries, and, upon reaching ambient temperature, to open a valve on the reservoir to start a new wet cycle. Would the energy produced by the initial wet and dry cycles exceed the energy used to open the valve?
@thatonemothafacko
@thatonemothafacko Жыл бұрын
The device itself is a bunch of bismuth antimony telluride cubes, which are semiconductors that have a thermoelectric effect. These are encased in a ceramic square on both sides made of aluminum oxide for maximum heat transfer without being electrically conductive. Black wire is soldered to the cube at the begging of the cube array, red wire is soldered to the last cube of the array. Turns a temperature difference into a DC output.
@nickhadziannis8451
@nickhadziannis8451 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this anwbswer
@Patriarchtech
@Patriarchtech Жыл бұрын
Cool video Rob The challenge with Seebeck effect generation and Peltier devices is to keep the cool side cool. Apart from the heat source which the clay and water provides you probably need a cold indefinite heat sink like flowing water in a river or the ocean for it to be viable. I am facinated by Peltier devices, the solid state part is so cool. Btw the Voyager space probes are powered by the Seebeck effect and they've been running for 60 years using radioactive material as the heat source and space as the heatsink. If only we had left over radioactive material which dissipates heat and an Ocean.....
@Vintaronica
@Vintaronica Жыл бұрын
Voyager space probes have been going for 45 years. But still quite amazing
@Patriarchtech
@Patriarchtech Жыл бұрын
@@Vintaronica My mistake! thanks for correcting it!👍
@44xxggaaj
@44xxggaaj Жыл бұрын
Geothermal cooled water !
@scottrose8417
@scottrose8417 Жыл бұрын
If only we had left over radioactive material which dissipates heat and an Ocean..... YES IF ONLY ; )
@fruitytarian
@fruitytarian Жыл бұрын
So hypothetically, IF we had leftover radioactive material that dissipates heat, and an ocean, what could that be used to power? Could it charge solar vehicle batteries or heat homes?
@Smo1k
@Smo1k Жыл бұрын
An interesting use of materials like zeolite is as thermal stabilization: The water and clay are kept in a closed container made of something which transports heat well. When it's hot outside the container, that heat goes into evaporating the water, but when it's cold enough for the water to condensate, the container heats up. But for that use, I'd probably be looking at ferrosulphate, since the tipping point for that is at some 60C or so, a temperature you can quite often reach on a sunny rooftop.
@garrslayer
@garrslayer Жыл бұрын
sounds like something the giza pyramid was designed to do
@Tomee62538
@Tomee62538 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having a science teacher like Mr Robert, everybody would lovd science, there won't be a dull day.
@NumericFork
@NumericFork Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, the heat is produced when the clay is turned into its hydrous state, meaning you would need to do more than just let it dry out to remove the water again, as it's chemically bonding with the clay. You would need to heat it up in an oven at high temperatures, using significantly more energy than was produced.
@SteffDev
@SteffDev Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and in order to generate any amount of useful energy you'd need a giant array of thermoelectric pads, which really quickly becomes unwieldly... It's a fun little experiment, but if they were any more useful, believe me we'd be seeing them be used in a lot more places other than little drink coolers and temperature sensors...
@shawnsmith9512
@shawnsmith9512 Жыл бұрын
Fork you have a winner. You are not mistaken. The clay also needs to be fired to a very specific point to make it a ceramic zeolite before this phenomena happens. Imagine the rain if this was a natural occurrence. Lots with this channel is technically true but some information is omitted and some energy unaccounted for.
@oooof6861
@oooof6861 Жыл бұрын
Suppose you could use large parabolic mirrors to heat it up. Even relatively small ones melt sand. And larger ones will give a much larger ‘functional area of focus’. For that matter you can at night, use the clay for the heat differential and during the day, just use the mirrors
@CynHicks
@CynHicks Жыл бұрын
Fresnal lenses be used to focus sunlight onto the clay right? Obvious not FREE energy, but it's free. 😅
@john-ic5pz
@john-ic5pz Жыл бұрын
how about drying it with a solar cooker?
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Seems to me, it would be a great way to store "heat" for the winter. You just have logs of them outside in the summer "drying", and in the winter, just add water. Once done, you put them outside to dry again.
@chriskeeble
@chriskeeble Жыл бұрын
Fantastic idea!
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 Жыл бұрын
The trick is to get it dry and keep it dry, I would think. You'd also have to worry about a lot of water hitting a lot of anhydrous zeolite all at once, if you were doing any kind of scale.
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын
@@harrymills2770 I wonder if that is the best material... know any good chemists (wink wink nudge nudge (Rob??)) hehe
@ModelLights
@ModelLights Жыл бұрын
'to dry again.' Most any battery tech has a 'downhill' slide. You're not just wetting this to produce electricity, when you wet it a chemical change is happening to make the electricity. Like iron rusting, aluminum oxidizing, etc. That part tends to not go backwards just because you later dry it out, eventually you will use up whatever is actually producing the energy. May still be a fine, cheap and easy idea. But pretty much guaranteed there is something else going on besides only wet and dry. And realize, spinning a motor is low energy, heating and cooling is not. This is probably a very low energy production system.
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын
@@ModelLights You are correct that over time, there will probably be some undesired chemical reactions. Nevertheless, the heat released by anhydrous Zeolite is due to the "Heat of Adsorption" which means that in the process of water molecules adhering to the surface of the zeolite, it releases heat. This can be "recharged" simply by removing the water, and then heating it sort of like how you might heat silica. So this isn't a "battery" in the traditional sense of redox reaction.
@john_blues
@john_blues Жыл бұрын
What's the voltage and current produced from your setup there? Also, could you use calcium chloride to produce the same effect? Adding water to calcium chloride(the stuff used to melt snow) creates an exothermal reaction as well, and doesn't take the large amount of energy to dry as this would.
@HeadakusMaximus
@HeadakusMaximus Жыл бұрын
I rewatched from the two min mark about four times to see what I had missed. Had to google it. First result was a pdf titled: "On the driving force of cation exchange in clays" By Rotenberg, Morel, et al. Apparently there is a Na+ Cs+ exchange during the hydration/dehydration processes.
@strongforce8466
@strongforce8466 Жыл бұрын
There is zeolite in our dish washer, I never really looked much into it but I was curious, this is quite impressive how much heat it can output ..of course adding a passive heatsink on the cool side would improve the power a bit aswell, which is very easy to do, also I remember luke made a thermal paste with graphene, it looked like it was performing pretty good, any update on that ? this could be useful for that device
@evdrivertk
@evdrivertk Жыл бұрын
I would think a Sterling engine would be a lot more efficient than a Peltier junction when trying to extract usable energy from a heat difference. Peltier junctions also require complex PN junctions (aka silicon processing) that might require much higher technology than a Stirling engine. Have you tried using a Stirling engine with this?
@MirrimBlackfox
@MirrimBlackfox Жыл бұрын
But you can buy Peltier chips easily online, Sterling Engines can't really be bought (in any useful size) and require a very skilled machinist, working in a full metal shop, to construct the parts. All of which have to be made to extremely fine tolerances to work. *I* can put together a Peltier device that makes a worthwhile amount of energy in an afternoon (provided I already have the parts of course) with a cost of less than 250 usd, possibly much less depending on how many of the tools and parts I needed that I didn't already have, and what I could scavenge locally. As little as 50 usd is quite possible most of that going to the actual Peltier chips.
@steve8189
@steve8189 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, as always. Would you ever consider showing how to actually make the wire-based pad?
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to put my clay in a shallow box behind my solar panel, daylight solar and heat to dry the clay then add a splash of water for night time power.
@htnsao
@htnsao Жыл бұрын
Kind of annoying to hear you keep saying that zeolite pellets are common clay. Don’t they need 200C to dry? Now do DIY zeolites.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
they are an aluminosilicate with a range of sources where some are literally dug from the ground - Australia is an important source of natural zeolites - some are synthesized aluminosilicates - but then the same is true for what we think of as natural clays. 200 degrees C is not a high temperature and there are systems already designed with US$0.06 perkWh costs and 20 year life span running for solar for the drying phase
@Wurps
@Wurps Жыл бұрын
Would love to see some everyday use-cases/reliable ways to take advantage of this along with how to efficiently source all required components
@Superman-ni1ww
@Superman-ni1ww Жыл бұрын
I wonder what result Rob would get if he insulated the heating container. What would be more interesting would be to get some numbers from the experiment; -starting weight of zeolite, -thermocouple in the mixture and a plot of time vs temp to quantify how much and for how long heat is produced -meter to measure the voltage/amperage produced (maybe also over the time that heat is produced to quantify how much is produced)
@YellowRambler
@YellowRambler Жыл бұрын
Not really what I was looking for, I was hoping that you would show us how to build one of those ancient batteries the archaeologist found at a dig-site, not a temporary replacement power supply for a potato o’clock, although not for me it’s still a good video for getting people interested in Science👍
@MrGrombie
@MrGrombie Жыл бұрын
Our man is saving the world by giving us ideas. Past 4 videos have been bangers on ideas for new home construction.
@psykoaddict
@psykoaddict Жыл бұрын
this guy is like a genius amazing every video he baffles me
@AllAroundTube50
@AllAroundTube50 Жыл бұрын
Wished you would have measured the amperage and voltage. Amazing.
@nevermind-wp3bf
@nevermind-wp3bf Жыл бұрын
Don't bother!... It's very low.
@MFunkibut
@MFunkibut Жыл бұрын
Can you build a zeolite battery with one side drying [cold] and one side [wet] and then flip it? Would you need to turn the Peltier over or does it only care about difference not 'sides'????
@rogerolander458
@rogerolander458 Жыл бұрын
Interesting but really, the properties of zeolite clay have been known for ever (at least seemingly so) and yet the "zeolite battery" does not seem to be on anyone's list for storage of renewable energy. Perhaps the charge/discharge cycle of the clay may not be very efficient. Have you crunched the numbers? Also, there'd be questions about the thermal junctions used for the conversion of heat to electricity - cost, cycle life, etc.
@AlexToussiehChannel
@AlexToussiehChannel Жыл бұрын
So much _bloody politics_ around energy production and you just _proved_ to us it's basically _free, clean and renewable forever!_ And so darn _easy_ to *make* at any _scale!_ *Unbelievable!* *WOW!*
@simongross3122
@simongross3122 Жыл бұрын
This is very good. Along with your previous video on solar cooling. I wonder how many other chemical reactions are completely reversible like this. It seems pretty special though. When you add water to the clay, does it actually become some other compound, or is it just hot, wet clay?
@goodstormsgames9744
@goodstormsgames9744 Жыл бұрын
So you've made a thermal battery with a solar thermal panel you could remove koisture and at night the clay could absorb water from the air. Give you a small voltage. During the day heat night generate power.
@Alkimi
@Alkimi Жыл бұрын
I can't get over this. I simply must learn how this works at the molecular level
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 Жыл бұрын
Robert says there are systems that utilize this effect on the market. If so wouldn't a patent search reveal how they work?
@rbartsch
@rbartsch Жыл бұрын
How is the energy density? Can Zeolite X13 be used to store heat for 6 month? Does Zeolite X13 loose stored heat over 6 month or is it possible to regain 100% of the heat?
@johndoe528
@johndoe528 Жыл бұрын
The hydrated zeolite can't just be "dried out", the water needs to be driven off with heat above that of ambient. Maybe a solar oven would work
@_mrcrypt
@_mrcrypt Жыл бұрын
Like a Sterling engine without moving parts… that’s pretty cool 👍
@kennyg1358
@kennyg1358 Жыл бұрын
Not a battery and of no practical use. Also disingenuous about the availability of the clay.
@jacklarson6281
@jacklarson6281 Жыл бұрын
is the clay processed before you can use it? the reason I ask is, if this already exist in nature, what's to stop a cataclysmic reaction when water comes into contact with a deposit of this clay?
@das250250
@das250250 Жыл бұрын
Can a tub of clay heat up a room? How hot does it get and how long..how much energy can it release as heat
@someadvids5655
@someadvids5655 Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you Robert for this information, your videos are just amazing to watch, so many ideas spring to mind, Looking forward to the next one already! I think there is going to be a lot of people experimenting with this stuff now! Take care and have a great day!
@bobsponge1877
@bobsponge1877 Жыл бұрын
Well we certainly can't have enough tiny motors running tiny little fans now can we? :)
@aeonturnip2
@aeonturnip2 Жыл бұрын
Loving the Doctor Who vibes on your walkabout videos recently, Robert.
@charlotteblack777
@charlotteblack777 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Id been studying peltier devices in order to create cooling devices but realized theyre more useful for electric generation but most articles claimed it wasnt efficient. But Im glad theres great minds like you challenging misinformation. It may not be enough to run a power station by itself but here in the altar desert I can assure you the hot and cold differences make a big difference. specially as a starting point for a cascading system or even an array of devices. Im on the hunt for peltier devices among other projects.
@Rajamak
@Rajamak Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel you could single handedly revive the Dr Who franchise? 👍
@ultimateanthony1883
@ultimateanthony1883 10 ай бұрын
What if I placed a ton of cray in hallow tube lined with your heat to electric generator .
@justtinkering6713
@justtinkering6713 Жыл бұрын
The elephant in the room question: How long does this reaction last?
@thomaswade3072
@thomaswade3072 Жыл бұрын
I love your excitement. This is a really neat demonstration of the Peltier effect
@heliosign
@heliosign Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. The king will find a way to put a carbon tax on it.
@sreenathc
@sreenathc Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Is there any similar set of compounds that create an endothermic reaction that can cool instead of heating, so it can be used for making small cooling spaces in hot countries to store food that would otherwise go bad?
@trulyloveEgypt
@trulyloveEgypt Жыл бұрын
I've seen a "fridge" made of clay. I believe it was an old Moroccan method.
@Stroheim333
@Stroheim333 Жыл бұрын
Where can we buy this special kind of clay?
@zylascope
@zylascope Жыл бұрын
Awesome and the Peltier device is made of two different ceramics also. One for the outer case and the inner ones that make power. So, three different ceramics and the crystals inside the device are two slightly different types. I don't know much about them, but I think there is a P and an N type. Does anyone know how to make the Peltier ceramics? Turn the sound up at 4:05 when the Zeolite clay and water start bubbling, it sounds like applause. Well-deserved too Rob. Thank you so much for this video :) You rock Rob!
@Vibe77Guy
@Vibe77Guy Жыл бұрын
Two tins, one hydrating hot side, one drying cool side. Deplete, reverse, repeat.
@davidahmad6090
@davidahmad6090 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting sir, are you sujesting an infinite cycle battery?
@MrMatthewPR
@MrMatthewPR Жыл бұрын
Great idea, and there's no size restriction on that. You could use barrels on a axis. I suspect whatever size you do wouldn't dry out fully though, so the power output might keep decreasing until it's fully refreshed.
@davidahmad6090
@davidahmad6090 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMatthewPR a solar copper heat exchager deep inside clay May solve this.
@MrMatthewPR
@MrMatthewPR Жыл бұрын
@@davidahmad6090 perhaps, but you're taking the heat out to generate elecricity, so I'm not sure whether you'd have enough left to dry it fully. Either way, some form of heating elements inside could dry it out. This could come from wind or solar. Maybe even a solar heater attached to the copper heat pipe.
@Vibe77Guy
@Vibe77Guy Жыл бұрын
@MrMatthewPR It's basically just the activated carbon nitrogen harvesting set up repurposed. Cooled activated charcoal absorbs nitrogen, heating it up expells it. Can be solar driven for the heating portion. And, although inefficient, generate liquid nitrogen by also using it as its own refrigerant.
@kilokilos
@kilokilos Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing ! What about a sterling engine?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
have a watch of video 1279 mate
@uneektalent
@uneektalent Жыл бұрын
The simplest form of global warming.
@Stroheim333
@Stroheim333 Жыл бұрын
Why not drive a steam engine with this method?
@lousbits
@lousbits Жыл бұрын
Sorry to be nit picking, but solitary bees are not carnivorous.
@AdamBechtol
@AdamBechtol Жыл бұрын
:)
@josephdupont
@josephdupont 8 ай бұрын
The number of moles of beryllium (B) that can be released from a pound of dry clay under ideal conditions depends on the specific composition of the clay and the method used to extract the beryllium. Clay is a complex mixture of minerals and organic materials, and the presence of beryllium in clay can vary widely depending on its geological origin. To determine the amount of beryllium that can be released from a pound of dry clay, a chemical analysis of the clay would typically be required. This analysis would involve techniques such as X-ray fluorescence (XRF) spectroscopy, inductively coupled plasma (ICP) spectroscopy, or other analytical methods to determine the beryllium content of the clay. Once the beryllium content of the clay is known, it would be possible to calculate the number of moles of beryllium in a pound of dry clay using the molar mass of beryllium. Beryllium has a molar mass of approximately 9 grams per mole. Without specific information about the beryllium content of the clay, it is not possible to provide an exact answer to this question. However, it's important to note that beryllium is a toxic element, and proper safety precautions should be taken when working with materials that may contain beryllium.
@Brian-ns5gm
@Brian-ns5gm Жыл бұрын
His voice sounds different than it used to.
@MISTERHEALTH.
@MISTERHEALTH. Жыл бұрын
A lot of the "rocks" are geopolymer.
@davidbgreensmith
@davidbgreensmith Жыл бұрын
My dishwasher uses this principle in the drying cycle.
@AutoNomades
@AutoNomades Жыл бұрын
If it is possible to use in a basic system in a dishwasher, maybe we could use this system to store heat from days to shower/cook/warm by night at small scale ? The probleme is that in don't understand well how the dishwasher system works, as it is copyrighted, and the machine cost too much for me to buy and look inside...
@trygvetveit4747
@trygvetveit4747 Жыл бұрын
My solar/battery system is way to large from mid Mars to mid November.. This is a "problem" here north and in the rainy part of Norway Guess it would be possible to use exess solar energy to run a dehumidifier to dry clay during summer and heat my house in January-December (atleast in principle) And this is not a thing just for me, almost everyone who got a house system here North got lots of exess solar witch will just go to waste during summer. I also got a thermal Water battery of 6000L at 70C , so i just need to "up" the temperature with solar electricity to make a Ethanol still and burn during winter But still i will need to make Worth of something containing sugar..
@tradermunky1998
@tradermunky1998 Жыл бұрын
Haha, very cool! Energy everywhere, just have to know how to use it!
@stationplaza4631
@stationplaza4631 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it a bit odd though, that this sort of thing doesn't seem to be that commonly known ?
@tradermunky1998
@tradermunky1998 Жыл бұрын
@@stationplaza4631 eh, most people care what Kim Kardashian is doing or what "insert sport league here" has going on so it doesn't surprise me stuff like this doesn't come up in general conversation.
@yahdood6015
@yahdood6015 Жыл бұрын
Now cap the steam and funnel it through a narrow opening for a steam generator while you harness that thermal energy!
@Ashsibe
@Ashsibe Жыл бұрын
Would the temperate of zeolite and water be just high enough for a 'battery' for a steam powered engine? An instant heat bank that doesn't need to be lit. Unlike combustibles.
@zwmmxviii6851
@zwmmxviii6851 Жыл бұрын
What's the output after it's been air dried, but not kiln dried? It seems like it would take an immense amount of very inefficient energy to dry it in a kiln after each use (as it started from this clay product) and i imagine that the heat output would be almost zero if starting from atmospheric humidity. This may be potentially useful in some very small niche as a one-time use thermal battery (such as: to heat a MRE meal) but I have trouble believing it's reusability in every-day settings. Please follow-up with a video of it being hydrated after sun drying it to show us it's reusability and potentially any difference in output? 🙏🏼
@MarieEagle-hy7lm
@MarieEagle-hy7lm Жыл бұрын
I am from Chattanooga, Tennessee and I must say that I absolutely loved your video. Great job!! It's always amazed me how some people are blessed and truly can make big things happen from the plain ordinary. Well, as you've proven, it's not so ordinary, until a brilliant mind such as yours comes on scene. Thank you very much!!!!
@MarieEagle-hy7lm
@MarieEagle-hy7lm Жыл бұрын
Oh my! I've Got to download the app,
@jackn5581
@jackn5581 Жыл бұрын
As soon as the video started I thought... "Wow! This guy would make a great Doctor Who!!!!" 😃 Interesting stuff!
@AtariG
@AtariG Жыл бұрын
The most important component you’ll need for this to work is called a p-ur-pah-ozo… 🤔
@MrBrew4321
@MrBrew4321 Жыл бұрын
I read that to recharge it has to be heated to hundreds of degrees but I'm not sure on the specifics. So a natural follow up video would be to toss some of the used "fuel" in a home oven - microwave and or conventional, and for various times. I'd suggest tossing some out in hot sunlight as well but I don't think that's gonna help much except maybe as a pre treatment before baking.
@hankhill962
@hankhill962 Жыл бұрын
What about using a Fresnel lens ?
@MrBrew4321
@MrBrew4321 Жыл бұрын
@@hankhill962 Nice thinking, idk but I've incinerated little bits of metal with a big fresnel lens, this stuff is just a ceramic powder with water like on the inside... I'm fairly certain you can drive the water out of just about any rock you are likely to find with a big enough fresnel lens because you can also drive the rock out of rocks! LOL. Anyways if you can't use it, it'd probably be because it damages the very specific crystal structure. But if that is the case, perhaps a smaller, less focused lens would do the trick remembering that the point is to make it anhydrous again with out destroying the structure that makes is special. Even going down that route i'd probably want to put it out on a cookie sheet on some black asphault on a low humidity day as a pre treatment.
@MrBrew4321
@MrBrew4321 Жыл бұрын
and all of that is assuming that the hot dry day and a big black surface are in adequate, i have no idea if that is enough
@josephdupont
@josephdupont 8 ай бұрын
This is very fascinating, but how many beets you get from a pound of clay that you are hydrating again
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