I am unsure how local my local is - it only takes 5 mins to walk there but somehow it takes 25 mins to walk home. The difference is staggering!
@newubik24 ай бұрын
:-)))))))))
@gazzie120004 ай бұрын
Ha ha! Boom boom !
@jackworsley32334 ай бұрын
Weyyy
@youknow69683 ай бұрын
😂
@premgoyal41923 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@hilaryepstein60137 ай бұрын
The pubs were a way back to the past for these men, to what was left of everything they had ever known and they travelled miles to get there, just to find somewhere they felt they belonged. Now they would be gone too. Quite a moving film really.
@GeorgeSmith10666 ай бұрын
@delong8998when you say you are known to the rest of the villagers, could you please explain how and why? Thanks.
@stephenfrankling85133 ай бұрын
I take it you are Black so see British life as a Black person who wants to change the British world so that it is as your wish it to be
@kachigar89482 ай бұрын
I didn't expect to have tears in my eyes clicking on this video. The sincerity with which the man tells us he genuinely doesn't know what to do after they bulldoze the pub...
@charliecasson16432 ай бұрын
@secondchance6603 certainly a wild opinion haha, no football boxing or races? pubs would go broke
@ianhawdon3680Ай бұрын
Agreed 100 %
@emward68583 ай бұрын
You can really feel the sadness of the landlord in the first pub when he speaks, it's such a shame the community was broken up
@synapticburn2 ай бұрын
And that guy was definitely older than 63, so it means he was born sometime in the 1800s!
@skidaddlej67862 ай бұрын
@@synapticburnI always think that, anyone who looks 63 + in this video was born in the 1800s and most probably contributed in the Great War and the Second World War
@NYR2K86 ай бұрын
Always surprises me in these old interviews how well spoken everyone was, even the drunk 'working class' people seemed calmer and more reflective and self aware.
@34powerman5 ай бұрын
Yes, correct Internet tv and media brain washing everyone. The youth have no chance today, I'm afraid.
@ghenny694205 ай бұрын
yes i agree, it’s really a shame how gradually each generation has gotten less articulate!
@apebass22155 ай бұрын
@@ghenny69420 *become less articulate
@HordleJohn5 ай бұрын
@@ghenny69420 It is a shame, yet even this comment features an Americanism (gotten) that has crept into modern British English
@Mustard_Tiger7105 ай бұрын
@@HordleJohn deez nuts. Gottem 😂
@tachikomakusanagi37447 ай бұрын
What an ominous ending, seeing these 'distinguished and elegant' high rises and knowing just how well they are going to work out for their residents. The music at the end makes me think of the end of Blackadder goes forth.
@kaitlyn__L7 ай бұрын
The biggest problem, as it strikes me, is that the midcentury style of planning was overly-focused on what the project looks like when viewed from the sky. For people in planes to think "that looks nice" as they go on their holiday. There was no real emphasis on what it was like down on the ground, with poor sightlines and an unfriendly scale.
@tachikomakusanagi37447 ай бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L Plus absolutely no consideration given to continuity of community. These planner just thought they could split up centuries old communities and then move people who have never met together and it would all work out. Stalin would have been proud of them.
@kaitlyn__L4 ай бұрын
@@tachikomakusanagi3744 oh, certainly - but that’s a problem with these projects no matter the architectural style. Easterhouse had plenty of low-rise and mid-rise buildings too after all. The problem there was lack of activities and, as you say, different communities shoved together with nowhere for their beefs to go. But in large places built to look impressive from the sky, they were imposing and difficult to navigate for the residents regardless of whether the people wanted to be there or not. (Bearing in mind people paid a lot to live in some overbearing brutalist structures like the Barbican.) Wider social planning vs architecture in particular, yk? (Though of course Le Courbosier fancied himself a social architect as well…)
@johngilmore6974 ай бұрын
4:18 that kids only sixteen, tough times
@baronmeduse2 ай бұрын
@@tachikomakusanagi3744 My auntie moved to one of those in the '60s nearer to Wigan, and it's not that the entire community was split up, many from the same streets went to the same block. It's more that as people died off lots of people from far outside the old community arrived and got flats until there was a lot of anonymity. Whereas in the old streets people's grown up kids would sometimes get a house nearby and it carried on. As it happens I live near 7 street's worth of 'workers' houses. In a different country mind, and many of the people have the same surname and know one another. So it's not all gone.
@SpoonyMcSpoonface7 ай бұрын
When a pub closes few spare a thought to the local community. Friends lose contact, pub teams are lost and a way of life dies. Most people had a sense of loyalty and pride to their regular pub as can be seen here. As someone whos seen three old regular pubs close I can feel for these peoples loss.
@SpoonyMcSpoonface4 ай бұрын
@@johngilmore697 Both the above,plus market changes and prices. Also going to the pub for a lot of people is no longer a thing, apparently a nice bottle of wine at home or healthy pursuits are quite popular these days.
@christinechandler56903 ай бұрын
Destroying whole communities , splitting up neighbours has led to the society we have today. Strangers living next to each other and having no connections. As a child I knew my neighbours they were my aunts, uncles, cousins. We looked out for the old people living on their own. I don't recall a break in or stealing from each other. The elegance of high risers didn't last long and soon local society began to breakdown old alliances broken for good.
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
The heart of the village. I've spent my life in boozers - to the cost of my liver and wallet - I adore pub culture, and have met so many different and interesting people in them over the decades. Sadly - just a handful now survive in my neck of the woods - but I'll keep going till the final one shouts 'last orders'.
@dannifauntleroy61026 ай бұрын
Feel very sad at how they were effectively erased. What a loss.
@sjrobinson19674 ай бұрын
My grandad Billy McMahon at 3.50, thanks for posting this ❤
@FazsterHQ3 ай бұрын
Stop lying that’s my granddad
@doomain67693 ай бұрын
Are you related
@FazsterHQ3 ай бұрын
@@doomain6769 yeah he’s me grandaddy, I call him papi.
@JB-rl8ki3 ай бұрын
Why would you lie? It is FazsterHQ's Papi, u lying scum
@youtubehatesus26512 ай бұрын
woo-hoo, great!
@fredo10707 ай бұрын
Those brand new tower blocks were pulled down in 2014.
@JakeP-bb5hh6 ай бұрын
Where abouts was they? Road name etc? Would love to look at the area now.
@ilikethiskindatube6 ай бұрын
@@JakeP-bb5hh I believe it's around Pendleton in Salford
@JakeP-bb5hh6 ай бұрын
@@ilikethiskindatube I saw after I watched the video. It’s very different now Thankyou.
@Princey836 ай бұрын
Some are still there. But yeah, they lasted 40yrs.
@magirusdeutzjupiter22344 ай бұрын
Good!
@blingking5014 ай бұрын
My dad said he didnt go to pub just to get pissed, but to socialise with his mates relax for abit. I think thats a big problem nowadays.
@PunkRockGardener3 ай бұрын
100% it was community
@mynameisdudge3 ай бұрын
You’re both acting like you still can’t do this lol. Support your local and socialise!
@paulthompson86132 ай бұрын
Yes it was always about the Banter happy days
@WHEREYOSAFEAT11 күн бұрын
Still is, its just people have stopped going because alcohol is so expensive
@joanne267 ай бұрын
Wow Julian Pettifer is 89 in a couple of weeks I used to watch him on TV back in the early 70’s Great Journalist 🏴🏴🏴❤️❤️👍 👍
@Jean-rg4sp6 ай бұрын
The authentic voice of Lancs.
@adamtoms7617 ай бұрын
That landscape is just extraordinary.
@Crossword1312 ай бұрын
I'm going to have to open a new "Druid's Rest." What an excellent name.
@cazzamccaffery24332 ай бұрын
My Dad always went back down to Salford for a pint. We moved to Little Hulton in 1966. I would of loved to of seen him in this video.
@apacherider71104 ай бұрын
I live in Penrith, a small town of 16k people, and we have 16 pubs in the town centre. Some closed ones have reopened. You feel welcome in everyone you visit. Makes the walk home very challenging 😂
@TankManHeavy3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good night, a pint in every pub!
@Revex083 ай бұрын
Carlisle here, first time I've seen Penrith mentioned on KZbin!
@apacherider71103 ай бұрын
@@Revex08 Hi Carlisle. I'm a newbie to Penrith, moved up from the south in 22. Great part of the country.
@GarGri3 ай бұрын
There is a huge difference between pubs when I was young and pubs now. There were no TVs but there was darts, dominoes, bar billiards and cheaper beer. There was nuts and crisps on the bar on Sundays and landlords that would occasionally give you a beers on the house. Free sandwiches were handed round when there was a league darts and dominoes night and sometimes baked potatoes too. There was often a jukebox box that allowed you to choose your own choice of music. More often than not your mates would be in there too. You would have to push through the crowd at the bar and wave a ten bob note to show the bar staff you were waiting to be served. I don’t frequent pubs these days as paying 9 quid for a pint is taking the piss
@Martin-se3ij2 ай бұрын
"Half-a-crown which equals 2 pints" - that's 15 pence a pint!
@Martin-se3ij2 ай бұрын
And there was conversations, everyone is on their smart phone these days.
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
Well, my 'local' is a fantastic place - no TV, often a few free morsels to peck at, a healthy mix of clientele, and a landlord who keeps a clean and tight ship. 9 kwid seems steep? - we pay no-where near that - but yes - it is expensive I guess - but I'll happily pay for the pleasure I get - I think it's pretty good value. All the best.
@oldmodelarmy2 ай бұрын
@@Martin-se3ij Half a crown was 12 and a half pence, so just over 6p per pint!
@Martin-se3ij2 ай бұрын
@@oldmodelarmy You are mistaken, Half-a-crown was 30 pence. (Two shillings and six pence)
@edwardwilliammorris13403 ай бұрын
Heart breaking ❤
@jackyjanes19243 ай бұрын
I didn't expect to be quite so heartbroken on the behalf of these pub-goers who are probably all dead by now... 😢
@Jean-rg4sp6 ай бұрын
*The reporter is a typical Lancashire man. He can be trusted to tell it like it is.*
@rpgrsta7 ай бұрын
They want to hang out with their old friends. That's why they come back
@LanguageCrab2 ай бұрын
Well, that's my heart broken for another night. Glad I watched it.
@xfoolsgoldx7 ай бұрын
The Pub was the hub of the community.
@nmoore19886 ай бұрын
was.... not anymore. shame really
@sacred18276 ай бұрын
@@nmoore1988 people aren't desperate to get out the house now
@Richard-or2km6 ай бұрын
@@sacred1827 And the expense of things nowadays isn't helping matters either.
@SK-kh2rs6 ай бұрын
Sounds depressing if that was the case
@cameronhartley77756 ай бұрын
@@SK-kh2rs how? pubs are great
@davidbarnes2414 ай бұрын
I loved my nights in the pubs, I was brought up in and out of pub life and I don’t regret that part of my life. I no longer drink alcohol, all the public houses and inns I left behind are still open, but it’s no longer has a place in my life, I simply cannot afford it anymore and the ban on smoking was the final straw for me. A wonderful archive that made me smile 👍
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
The smoking ban was a large nail in the coffin. I have played in bands for decades - the week the ban came into force - our audience was outside smoking - we played to an empty room. Never forget it.
@nigellee98245 ай бұрын
I was 11 years old when this was filmed, and I still miss that word
@johngilmore6974 ай бұрын
4:20 is that you?
@Borella3092 ай бұрын
and the letter "L" on your keyboard?
@SirHumpyA16 күн бұрын
My Local ? About 2 miles away and owned by A private company Don't Worry, I get to walk passed the Three closed pubs on my road in order to get there so the good times flood back
@karlmann96087 ай бұрын
The area of Hanky Park was demolished in the 1960s and replaced by high-rise flats. Sadly, only a few of the old buildings were saved.
@ElvayProductions6 ай бұрын
Where did you hear this?
@karlmann96086 ай бұрын
@@ElvayProductions i google it
@ricochet2433 ай бұрын
The grapevine
@claymor82416 ай бұрын
I’m from the north but moved to SE London 40 years ago. The other day I counted up at that time there were 14 pubs in the wider area we might have gone in (though some only occasionally) and 11 have now gone for ever.
@andydixon29806 ай бұрын
☹
@kylereed93096 ай бұрын
Similar happened to the area in Leeds where i used to leave. Cross Green up until the late 90s had around 12 or 13 pubs, now even with a bigger population and regeneration in the area there are no pubs at all. You have to go into leeds centre for a pint. It's really disappointing but I have moved out of inner city Leeds to garforth on the outskirts. Luckily I still have 2 local pubs within 5 minutes walking distance and 7 throughout the town.
@TheWeepingDalek6 ай бұрын
@@kylereed9309 because people realised wasting money on what is essentially poison is dumb and stupid.
@kylereed93096 ай бұрын
@@TheWeepingDalek and I've just realised your small, insignificant and the whole world doesn't share the same thoughts as you but thanks for the opinion anyway.
@TheWeepingDalek6 ай бұрын
@@kylereed9309 then why are so many pubs closing. Why are the younger generations moving away from drinking
@GaryJohnWalker17 ай бұрын
Half a crown. Another 2 pints! A big reason the new high rises - and many new housing estates - failed was the merest lip service given to replacing or even moving community centres like the good old pub. The edge of estate megapub was never quite the same.
@38kob6 ай бұрын
bring back this artistry please, BBC
@fryertuck64963 ай бұрын
Behave, they are too busy abusing children!
@Martin-se3ij2 ай бұрын
Went to college in Salford, past the old docks, all gone now, turned into condo's, the odd crane left standing, like a fossil skeleton in a museum. Still, and long dead, a reminder of a world we'll never know. Shame they couldn't leave one pub standing. I guess it would remind the planners that the place once had a soul.
@rensha86357 ай бұрын
Community and a common culture were valued and recognised back then. They know where they feel they belong. This video is a gem. We could all learn from it. Nowadays easy to dismiss these men as close minded and lacking the ability to adapt. In reality they know where they are safer and valued, amongst their own kind from their locale, from their background and from their status.
@leonpalmer24297 ай бұрын
But when other people do this it's a problem 🤔
@Londonechoes6 ай бұрын
They probably were a lot happier and lives had more meaning too! Compared to now where 'anything is possible' and we are told we can be and do anything we want if we work for it (not true)
@sacred18276 ай бұрын
@@Londonechoes I dunno about happier, but simpler I can imagine. They generally worried about their own lives, work and the immediate community. Now every kid has the whole word in their phone. It brings different pressures and confusion.
@Londonechoes6 ай бұрын
@@sacred1827 Very true
@rbb50722 ай бұрын
@@leonpalmer2429 yeah when its foreigners in our country
@okdavedbm8927 ай бұрын
the reason the pubs were kept open was they had to continue trading untill the license was transferd to a new pub in one of the over-spill estates on the same day. my gran lived on ARCHIE ST & was shifted out to Gamsley. If this was,nt done the lisece was void & ended.
@MrSimonmcc7 ай бұрын
It's almost as if town planners never learn from their predecessors' mistakes.
@Coolcarting7 ай бұрын
No, they have learned. Thats why they do it.
@Tmuk27 ай бұрын
No mistake - they just don't give a monkey's
@MarcoNegrisEye6 ай бұрын
"And this is their dream...something altogether more distinguished and elegant" *cuts to a soulless Orwellian concrete monstrosity*
@phillycheesetake5 ай бұрын
You're making an essential mistake, the pain isn't the passenger, it's the point.
@leehighland54354 ай бұрын
Brown envelopes stuffed with cash is never a mistake.
@krognak7 ай бұрын
"Distinguished and elegant" is not quite how I would describe the 60's obsession with decimating communities and historic architecture and replacing it all with isolating brutalist concrete monoliths.
@johnmurray55736 ай бұрын
For distinguished and elegant the zeitgeist read elitist and refined. They sought a utopian style that struck a new note of common identity but it was obviously doomed
@johnmurray55736 ай бұрын
@@pgs1796 they're now back in charge of the country
@thrashstronaut6 ай бұрын
@@johnmurray5573 Tories were in 57-63 when most of this happened.
@DominicExcedol6 ай бұрын
@@thrashstronaut but the idea had been sold well. the destruciotn of communities and the creation of new ones to reshape the citizens was a purely soviet idea. it tended to falter under the tories but everyone had bought into the propoganda.
@threatlevelmidnight8076 ай бұрын
@@DominicExcedol Never the Tories fault is it.
@gregorypeck8763 ай бұрын
My local is now six miles away, that doesn’t stop me, I cycle there now, so I can still have a drink with my friends from around the way, then cycle home pissed 😂
@jezzaus21242 ай бұрын
Go well 😂
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
Me too!! But I cheat a bit - got an electric bike - awesome. Way out in the country though and can get home across fields - if I can stay on it......
@andrewwilson4933 ай бұрын
“Believe you me” I haven’t heard that in years.
@buckodonnghaile4309Ай бұрын
That was a common expression in eastern Canada when I was a kid.
@sidewaysid3 ай бұрын
The Loco and the Concert in Openshaw Manchester, rest in peace.
@Diogenes6523 ай бұрын
My grandad worked in Hanky Park, he was an iron moulder at Hodkinsons foundry. Ewan McColls father worked there at the same time.
@Filmmaker8097 ай бұрын
I wish life was this simple today.
@Signaman-z9d6 ай бұрын
Just goes to show that change without community is a slow death. Decline in morale and morality followes.✌️☘️
@nigellee98245 ай бұрын
I remember when the first supermarket opened near where I lived in the early 60s, and within a fortnight all the local shops were closing….one by one…
@lokent65923 ай бұрын
how is it not? Go to work, pay your bills - eat - family - done.
@lokent65923 ай бұрын
@@nigellee9824 I remember when the town got its first supermarket. Everyone was panicking the town would close. It didnt, a few shops changed out overtime, they likely werent making good profits anyway - the butchers that everyone thought would definitely go under didnt, if anything they had higher demand - now they have branches in 4 adjacent towns. Supermarkets didnt kill the high street, demand simply diversified and changed. Similarly online - multiple towns near me have thriving weekly markets, and busy high streets.
@nigellee98243 ай бұрын
@lokent6592 I think you're living in a fantasy world....high streets are dying everywhere , very few butchers exist in town centres, and fish monger are almost extinct..
@dorianphilotheates37693 ай бұрын
These blokes effortlessly took a full pint in a single gulp.🍺
@wolfman9132Ай бұрын
It’s the people that make the pub, regardless what looks like.
@barrycrosby86023 ай бұрын
The pub closures where I live in the North East have been massive, the small village where I grew up had 4 pubs only 20 years ago they have all gone I have moved to other pubs but the atmosphere just isn't the same and if you can only go out once a week or less like I do it's hard to get into the click, sometimes you can bump into a few friends or acquaintances and have a good night other times there is nobody there who you know and you feel like an outsider, but as the old saying goes if you don't use it you lose it
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. I go to pubs to socialise (OK - I love beer too!!) I'm lucky that I have a local (6 miles away) that I use regularly - but IF that shuts - I don't think I'll see the bulk of my 'pub chums' again. Sigh.
@carguy7923 ай бұрын
Crazy to see all these peiple who are probably no longer here , fighting for whats theirs. Now itscall been taken away and its quiet sad actually its like taking an eraser to a history book.
@amwartwork3 ай бұрын
i was involved with turning a pub into flats. forest of dean. the landlord didnt even keep any of sorts meaningful from inside. just wanted everything burning or binning. i kept a piece and have made stuff from it. things like this . pubs are very strange places as they for some reason cater to all complexities of man and woman
@mickricereto80127 ай бұрын
Are those tower blocks still there??! Those scenes of desolation with massive empty spaces in between the isolated pubs … shocking how the housing council moved against the will of the people.
@buckodonnghaile43095 ай бұрын
Someone mentioned in a comment that those tower blocks were demolished not long ago.
@JuiceTerry873 ай бұрын
@@buckodonnghaile4309I think the area is Pendleton, lots of the flats are still there
@5nowChain57 ай бұрын
Back then 40quid a week was a good wage for a family of 4 or more to live on.
@jrsc01.2 ай бұрын
7:37 The A6 on the right, straight through the roundabout. Churchill Way on the left side. with (now) Salford Shopping Centre area topside it possibly looks like.
@Eltonlaleham3 ай бұрын
I wish I had been born in the year 1963 when classic Dr Who started on bbc1, and also had I been born in 1963 would now be aged 61 instead of aged 55.
@richardcapstack7 ай бұрын
If you want to enjoy the atmosphere of the pubs in this film, come along to the King’s Arms, Ravenstone (children in the lounge only, please)
@Londonechoes6 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing this look into the past
@MrCharlesWidmore2 ай бұрын
Go into a pub/bar these days and everyone is just on their phones……so difficult at times being a single person and trying to even strike up a conversation with somebody, they all look at you as if you’ve walked into a conference meeting and disturbed them all!
@danmayberry11857 ай бұрын
Wetherspoons is a local with its soul kicked out.
@Danceswithbugs6 ай бұрын
To be fair to Wetherspoons, you can still meet your mates there and have a good time and the drinks are well priced, just like these old pubs, but I think that's it's the culture that's changed more than anything. In fact, culture of any kind has been pretty much dead for the past 20 years. Strange time's we're living in..
@BrandonSmith-ql9of6 ай бұрын
@@Danceswithbugs This. Been fortunate enough that I have a god group of friends who still meet up and who I have a tangible friendship with. Know an uncomfortable amount of people that have almost entirely digital friendships. So connected but so disconnected at the same time. No wonder the world seems so glum apart from the times I'm with my boys. It's getting harder to think that things will get better.
@UsuallyTrolling6 ай бұрын
Wetherspoons has saved a lot of historical buildings from being demolished
@AngloSaxophone6 ай бұрын
Ive always called Wspoons the mcdonalds of pubs
@sacred18276 ай бұрын
@@Danceswithbugs internet age. people aren't as keen to go out as often now. a pub becomes the hub of the community if people are in there often. not every few weeks.
@DL-fi5cc7 ай бұрын
"Replaced by something all together more distinguished and elegant". 😅 yeah right the architects who designed the flats wouldn't have dreamed of living there themselves. "10 final stubborn obstacles".
@TheWeepingDalek6 ай бұрын
live on the streets then
@johnathanryan21177 ай бұрын
Worst days work ever done for Walkden and Little Hulton , poor folk mustve wondered what hit them, and probably still do.
@stuartsaint45817 ай бұрын
Surprised by how Lancastrian their accents are, amazing how much the Mancunian accent has spread
@kaitlyn__L7 ай бұрын
Me too. They sound like my 73 year old dad.
@paultaylor70827 ай бұрын
The accent here is Manchester/Salford, it's not the Lancashire accent of Bolton, Rochdale, Oldham, Bury and other towns in the area. Salford borders Manchester (the dividing line is the River Irwell). Manchester and Salford have always had a completely different accent to the surrounding areas and continue to do so, I'm from Newton Heath, North East Manchester and have lived in area nearly all of my lfe, I'd say the first landlord'a accent is typical of the area.
@Sheblah128 күн бұрын
I always associated the style and sound of the piano music near the end with London culture and cockney environs of the time.
@biffcliftonАй бұрын
RIP, my old local is now a 'Community Centre'
@alcoholidaysUK3 ай бұрын
Terribly sad. They lost their way of life. I feel the same way to a certain extent; my generation grew up in the pub - we were teenagers and young adults in the late nineties and early 2000’s and everybody went to town as a soon as they could get in. You could go to one of your ‘locals’ straight after work and be guaranteed to see some people, play a bit of pool, etc. Now, I don’t even think young people go to the pub, never mind people my age.
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
I've been playing in bands for decades - in the day the boozers we played were always busy - great crowds - great atmosphere. Slowly, attendance has dwindled - I'm a crusty old git now - but still playing in boozers - sadly the amount of punters about has dwindled - and very few youngsters - I guess new generations socialise in a different way - on their phones?
@vaughanrichards7438Ай бұрын
They weren't asking for much were they? A small bar modestly furnished with basic facilities where they could enjoy the company of people similar to themselves.
@Starchaser633 ай бұрын
1963 the year I was born 😊
@ShedTV6 ай бұрын
Sad for those fellas, and true that far fewer pubs remain, but pub culture still exists. I've moved around a bit and I've always become a local in a very short time.
@Bowl_sessions6 ай бұрын
Love how basic the pub is back then. No massive TV's belting out Sport, nothing on the walls. literally a few beer pumps and fellow pub goers for entertainment. No wonder they missed each other.
@rachel.mcgowan3 ай бұрын
And no food, other than probably nuts and crisps. So many pubs seem to be dining spaces first, and those places aren't conducive to a good traditional pub atmosphere.
@neobogard2 ай бұрын
This is great. Reminds me of the old movies and cartoons based on the 19th and early 20th century which I enjoyed soo much. Besides The Christmas Carol, I can't remember any of the names of those films and cartoons and probably would never find them again.
@Pikestnt7 ай бұрын
You’ve got to love planners (🤔) Instead of improving what was there, they chose to evict everybody, raze the lot and build new, making sure that all community spirit was destroyed at the same time. It’s as deliberately destructive as the highland clearances or the pogroms in 1930s Europe. I presume the planners meant well but the outcome was cruel and brutal irrespective of their intentions.
@brianartillery7 ай бұрын
Planners very seldom mean well. As long as they get paid, they don't really care. Most of them don't even live in the locality of their destruction, and have no local knowledge whatsoever. Where I live, a load of expensive flats were built next to a river, despite the fact that the river ran in a channel higher than the level of the first floor and garage levels. I expect you can see where this is going, can't you. A storm in the winter of 2013 meant that people woke up to find they couldn't leave their new homes, as the ground floor was under 6-7 feet of filthy water.
@andydixon29806 ай бұрын
Exactly. Why not make improvements to the area instead of destroying the lot and displacing a whole community. It must be profit motivated to do this. It's so wrong.
@andydixon29806 ай бұрын
@@brianartillery They should be held accountable for their dumb decisons.
@folksurvival6 ай бұрын
Nice try.
@froggin-zp4nr6 ай бұрын
The planners saw the numbers and that's all that matters to them, not the people.
@burkey5486 ай бұрын
what a brilliant vid what a vid
@VanderlyndenJengold7 ай бұрын
Have a look on a map and you can still find streets and streets of terraced house, some old, some new(ish).
@Shining-Star-2 ай бұрын
That’s what I call Community SPIRIT.🍻
@owenseaborne35172 ай бұрын
I like that they travel with no fear of the consequences of drink driving 😂
@johnnybala51122 ай бұрын
The audio quality is really great
@DudeEnglishАй бұрын
English and British communities in general were ripped apart when our industry was sold off and privatised. We once had communities and friendship. Now we are all fractured and unhappy.
@24gamerap3 ай бұрын
This is an Amazing history of regular good humans, who worked, rested and lived their lives best to their knowledge. Really inspiring to see in 2024. Keep up with the good archived footage BBC because your current existence is sad.
@TheFarmKFD2 ай бұрын
yup .. I grew up through this ...Very Sad, but Fact even though I was a Yorkshire Lad from Sheffield - Rotherham
@patrickpayne83307 ай бұрын
SO sad..... our past...our history being killed....for what...????? Greedy property developers who's NEVER ever lived in a old decent community in there lives.... What has parts of London been left with...Glass office blocks... CRIMINAL!!!!!
@phigbill6 ай бұрын
Its a Pub, it's not that deep, calm down buttercup.
@Solid_Jackson6 ай бұрын
Did you know what was there before? It was essentially slums Talk for London if you like but you know naff all about Salford
@Solid_Jackson6 ай бұрын
@@nonono9194 it was slums tho, my family was from them Great gran used to say how bad it was
@sicr73733 ай бұрын
5:00 Jason Statham's Dad enjoying a drink, never knew he was a Northerner!
@muttley59587 ай бұрын
The original "Rovers Return". 🏴🇬🇧 😃😂
@attackman44586 ай бұрын
Although I recognise the importance of community which we have lost in modern times, we in the UK have also lost the will to make big infrastructural changes as are seen here which in the long run help improve everyone’s lives. So we lost both the cost and the benefits of what is seen here.
@madboy11056 ай бұрын
The ending is like a Wes Anderson film
@AIrealty49222 күн бұрын
heart Braking what the government has done to Britain this is not the place i was brought up in
@FlibDokky7 ай бұрын
why did they demolish a whole suburb edit: oh god 7:37
@safetybeach7 ай бұрын
Squaller
@HALLish-jl5mo4 ай бұрын
Because it needed to go. You’re used to all the houses you see being fundamentally fit for living in. That’s not because people have only built houses fit for living in, it’s because during the 20th century there were systematic campaigns to clear the slums. In some cases the tower blocks that replaced them had serious problems, it certainly turned out that community spirit was lost in the transition, but they gained things like plumbing and heating and insulation.
@billybollockhead56283 ай бұрын
@@HALLish-jl5mo : You say "slums", I say "affordable housing".. something we're lacking right now. It was never about getting rid of slums, more making the slums even more slummy by packing more poor people into a smaller space by building upwards. What's better, a 2 up/2down house, where you have an actual house, or a crappy bit room in the sky?
@HALLish-jl5mo3 ай бұрын
@@billybollockhead5628 You fundamentally don’t understand my point because these schemes were so successful. In the UK there are no houses as bad as those that were demolished, so your perception of what a house is has been set by that. Seriously, these houses had no plumbing in most cases, maybe a single tap if you were lucky. Certainly no bathroom. Electric lighting might have been retrofitted if you were lucky. No central heating just a coal fireplace. No insulation to speak of. You’ve never seen a house this bad because it would be completely illegal to build, completely illegal to rent, and you’d probably loose your kids if you tried to raise them in one. The singular advantage over an apartment (at least as a building, there were other social advantages) was the garden. But don’t think you could relax in it; that was for the outhouse and for hanging up washing.
@michaelgoulding66093 ай бұрын
the town i live, in the north of england used to have 9 pubs in the 1980s, 8 of them have closed now, & have either being converted to houses or flats, with 2 that were next door to eachother now both derilict, but apparently they too are going to be converted to flats, the only one pub remaining apparently struggle,s to stay open, its a shame because once they are gone, they are gone for good, never to reopen again,
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
Pub culture has gone. Societal change, generational change, things like the smoking ban, drink-driving far more frowned upon, perhaps the cost of beer - the list goes on. It's a crying shame.
@DixieDaydreamer2 ай бұрын
As for why they all congregate back to the same place, for modern people who don't get it think of it like social media. Would you leave Facebook, X, TikTok, Snapchat to go to a brand new network and you only have one contact there? No, you wouldn't, you stay in the same social media site 'cos all your contacts and friends, your history, posts and pics are all there still shared. This is what caused my family to break up and go their separate ways. I come from 5 generations of those born in the East End of London, dockers and workers. They said the same thing and did the same things, smashed communities, broke up fmailies and scattered people in the new "utopia". My parents left London at the end of he 70s and we moved to the Midlands. I moved back to just outside North London and I work in the city but my parents and grandparents family and firends were just scattered and fragmented, our roots decimated and destroyed. I'm probably far more wealthy and have more opportunities that i would if I was still living in the East End and I guess the sacrifices had to be made, but it still stings several generations later.
@chris-rfs4 ай бұрын
In my area of Rotherhithe in London there used to be 10 pubs within a few minutes of each other....now there is 1!! I do miss meeting up with friends at my local pub but it's gone now like so many others.😐
@RichardBean4 ай бұрын
Amazing camera work. Even if the filmmakers copied the whole intro and outro from Tati's "Mon Oncle"!
@jourwalis-88752 ай бұрын
What a zoom out! And did he really have a wireless microphone in 1963? And so powerful zoom lenses?
@jimmy36513 ай бұрын
We must drink Alcohol to have friends 🥴🥴🇬🇧
@BobbySteelanus3 ай бұрын
You don't get it
@stephenholmes10367 ай бұрын
Now in the Cotswolds it all middle class metropolitans. Bar a few of us
@borderlands66066 ай бұрын
The pub was often the last place standing in "slum" clearances. 20 or 30 years later the planner's dream would be reduced to rubble
@peter00105 ай бұрын
No Tubbs, we must remain LOCAL
@stuzaza3 ай бұрын
That is so sad
@gmc94513 ай бұрын
Opening images reminds me of the start of the TV series Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads.
@cgray82677 ай бұрын
Real lads !! WTF happened to us
@jameswaters51337 ай бұрын
That generation were amazing. I do wonder, I really do.
@UXB-p5u6 ай бұрын
Not allowed to be like that anymore not allowed to share an opinion or have a different point of view unless it fit's with the absolute extremists and crazies of today.
@SkyratsvsSeachickens6 ай бұрын
@@UXB-p5uI completely disagree. There were nice elements to this old drinking culture. Connections, community, identity. The shot with the pubs being the only thing left tells its own story.
@sacred18276 ай бұрын
@@UXB-p5u You've diverted this in a very predictably irrelevant direction
@oakashthorn57144 ай бұрын
Social engineering & brain washing the youth into thinking they’re being rebellious when in reality they’re not pushing back against the system they are system…’rainbow flag anyone,🌈
@ryanward81222 ай бұрын
It's happening alover again keep your pubs keep your community
@lukastargazer30897 ай бұрын
I miss vox pops, journalism just isn't the same anymore....where is the HEART like in this piece? :)
@douglasnorth24296 ай бұрын
Try the wandering turnip. He's a youtuber but just did a doc on fish and chips in the UK
@Walwyn76 ай бұрын
@@douglasnorth2429Thank you for sharing!
@barryoffeastenders6 ай бұрын
Untold damage was done to British society when these areas were replaced with high-rise blocks. Then immigrants arrived who still had a strong sense of community, and this gave the impression of them ‘taking over’ an area. When in reality, they had just clung onto what the types of men in this video sorely missed and longed for - a sense of belonging and togetherness
@buckodonnghaile43095 ай бұрын
Well put.
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
I've never thought of it like that - well said.
@LukeEdwards-x8c5 ай бұрын
Wonder what these guys would have thought about the potential pub garden smoking ban in England? 😢
@frauditorshavenofriends2 ай бұрын
Might as well ban alcohol too whilst they're at it. FFs.
@badabing88842 ай бұрын
There are only 5 proper pubs in my town now. Very sad indeed!
@andydixon29806 ай бұрын
Tragic to watch the government destroy these historic pubs and a community like this. A sense of community for everyone is so important and I think this demonstrates how little the government care about the taxpayer, hard workers etc. Those men were all funding the developers and didn't want it. It's wrong.
@JamieW-o7b3 ай бұрын
The pubs were valuable social centres that the authorities couldn't control, so they had to go!
@Bob.Jenkins3 ай бұрын
The new Hanky Park: "More distinguished and elegant." - Vertical Slums. No shops, no amenities, no Parks, little Parking and no Pubs.