1964 Plymouth Valiant vs. Chevrolet Chevy II & Corvair

[@hebneh]

Where I live, both of these cars were hugely popular. They were all over the place along with Falcons. My mother had a 1963 Chevy II station wagon.

[@bruceh92]

That wagon is a keeper!

[@datacreed]

My dad had three '64 Valiants in the early 70s. All driven into the ground as each of my elder brothers drove them as teenagers. :) Great video quality. Thanks for preserving and posting!

[@thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind]

We had a 64 Valiant ragtop with the small 170 slant. with that rear end and gas mileage the car almost never got stuck in the snow and the car got almost the best gas mileage of any car we ever had. My dad always drove slow and never had a heavy foot. My Dad said the car never cost him one dime to maintain. Gas, top off the oil every 3 months and all was good.

[@bigdog4173]

I had a Valiant,and was very satisfied with it

[@scootergeorge9576]

Another unbiased report from Chrysler Corp.

[@nlpnt]

Salesman training.

[@scootergeorge9576]

Not meant for the general public. : )

[@jamesslick4790]

It's an internal sales film not a "report", It's not even an advertisement. It wasn't for the public. It was for Plymouth salesmen.

[@jamesaandf]

The Valiant was a much better car than the Chevy II. The Valiant body was much stronger, the Slant 6 much better, the Torqueflite much better, the ride and handling much better, warranty much better, service intervals much better and looked better. I rode in both when new and the Valiant was a much better car. Also, in ‘64 the 273 V8 became available but was not mentioned in this video.

[@paulsheehan8185]

in Canada, the Chevy ii/ Nova, was also called a Pontiac Acadian.

[@sergeysmelnik]

How did you get these in such good quality?

[@gcfifthgear]

Valiant made up for the error shown in the engine options in mid-year when the 273 V-8 was added. My brother had a Signet 200 hardtop with the V-8...and the Chevy II Nova SS was reintroduced in mid-year, as was the hardtop body style.

[@adamtrombino106]

Must be an early promo.. No mention of the 273 V8 and 4 speed offered at mid yr..

[@rightlanehog3151]

AT, They list the 4 speed in this promo but not the V8.

[@fairfaxcat1312]

A promo is a promotion. This is a dealer information promotion. The idea is to promote the automobile in such a way as to help the dealer promote and sell the automobile. The automobile the dealer will be promoting and selling is the Valiant automobile. The more Valiant automobiles the dealer promotes and sells the money he and the motor company will make.

[@datacreed]

"Sprayed and dipped" lol - I remember how "chalky" and rusty my dad's white Valiant was at 10 years old (in '74). Kinda like that white residue on your fingers when you touched white aluminum siding? :)

[@danr1920]

Wait a year and get the '65 Corvair. I have a '65 Corvair. Best handling, stopping and best looking.

[@jeffscomp]

The valiant was an awesome car with the push button transmission. Definitely the better buy back then. Wheels were smaller though.

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

wait... cars in 1964 came OPTIONAL with a heater? Were the windows optional too?

[@johnnymula2305]

I’ll give Chrysler credit here. They actually had the guts to think someone would find the valiant more appealing. 🤣

[@chriskelleher349]

Film released 4 days before Kennedy assassination. My grandmother bought the 64 Chevy with a column shift. It was OK.

[@stickshiftdriver1832]

How do you know when it was released

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

I was a baby when this video came out

[@datacreed]

I was negative 4 years old. :/

[@acadianfever]

The Car Crazy Guy Me too!

[@fairfaxcat1312]

KZbin commentators “datacreed” and “acadianfever” were not yet born when these automobiles came out.

[@JSB103]

Why not bring the Plymouth line back out of the cemetery? An economically built, popular line with a car based on design simplicity, sturdiness and cheap manteinance and operation. I think it would sell very well.

[@chriskelleher349]

JSB103 . Pop off the Fiat badges.

[@JSB103]

@@chriskelleher349 : A car built along these lines of design simplicity, sturdiness and low cost maintenance & operation (I.E. less trips to the car-shop), will sell well regardless of the label, I think.

[@timothykeith1367]

Federal regulations killed the basic car.

[@50mongo]

mine is 55 years old and had 1 minor engine overhaul - new rings - 60 thou skimmed off the head - carter 2 barrel carb & front anti-sway bar - front disc brakes - free flow exhaust can relatively easily do 100 mph - had too many drinks @ took out a lamp post @ blew out both front tyres and drove away - they have hemi 426 main bearings and V8 valves Auto is 55 years old and flares up between 1st and 2nd gears under full throttle

[@wintersbattleofbands1144]

Yeah, you should always drink and drive your vintage car...

[@AnthonyEvelyn]

Keep em coming!

[@buddy8225]

My dad had a Valiant convertible with the 273 V8 and automatic transmission.

[@paulsheehan8185]

i'd buy the valiant, because it has a three speed automatic, chevy doesn't.

[@terrymeadows1827]

The Answer Man won't answer the questions, but diverts attention to another topic. I'd have walked.

[@fairfaxcat1312]

KZbin commentator, indeed one “terrymeadows1827,” accuses an individual, an Answerman, of not “answer[ing] the questions” and changing the topic. “Meadows’” response is “walking.” What is the nature of this Answerman? Who is this individual and what are the questions he is not answering and why? Toward which topic(s) is he diverting attention?

[@бусликбатя]

Больше плиз видосов!!!

[@OsbornTramain]

Man, this customer is confused, he's all over the place, he can't even decide what type of model he wants........2 4 9 door?

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Valiant trunk design and fuel tank location were way ahead of the times.

[@senorkaboom]

There is no drawback to the 2 speed auto G M offered. In the day, we had 2 cars that had that tranny, a ‘65 Impala wagon and a ‘68 LeMans. The tranny worked well in both cars and at over 100,000 miles, I had the tranny in the LeMans rebuilt. Cost was under $300.00 for everything.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

$15.60 price difference? Is this really a huge consideration? Were people that broke back in the early 60's? That equates to $126.61 in today's money. And a heater is optional???

[@jerrychacon8814]

Gas then was around 27cents a gallon then

[@joemackey1950]

Heaters were usually optional. As were radio's. My '65 Falcon had three options: heater, radio and cigarette lighter. Most cars were delivered to dealers with these options as a rule since they were usually added anyway. One could order a car with a heater/radio delete.

[@vmat1000]

Man a 4 speed on a six! That must have been fun. Had a '63 Nova, 4 door pg 6. Great car. Corvair,,,nader's raiders tho a neighbor bought one then

[@philpatterson7085]

I had a 64 Valiant V200 with a 4 speed, it was a fun car.

[@chrisbrown3925]

We don't want to talk about no optional v8 on the valiant, here's a yardstick...

[@biukucanoe]

How did GM get away with 2 speed auto in 1960s???

[@AryDontSurf]

The powerglide is not that bad, its geared well enough to get decent highway speed. Its kind of strange though as far as downshifting or engine braking goes.

[@303nitzubishi4]

Same way Neons got away with three speed autos well into the 00s

[@wintersbattleofbands1144]

It was essentially second and third gear. I had one. Drove great, good mileage even with a 350.

[@merc-ni7hy]

seems chrysler does not include ford in alot of these comparo's ,,,why didnt they have the new for 64 falcon??

[@mymopar]

It's coming up next.

[@merc-ni7hy]

cool

[@mymopar]

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[@joetrip229]

they did, compared worse than the chev

[@KDoyle4]

I'll give credit to Chrysler for actually showing the advantages of the Chevy. I'll take a Valiant hardtop with the big six and an automatic.

[@sonofagun1037]

7:15 ... isn't that a hardtop corvair?

[@thoughtfinder]

The Valiant was a better choice. The Corvair was a very dangerous car. My dad owned a 1967 Corvair. He traded it in for a brand new 1969 Chevy Impala.

[@AnthonyEvelyn]

The 67 Corvairs were safe cars.

[@jerrychacon8814]

Volkswagen had there engine in the back also no one ever said they were unsafe.no car is totally safe.

[@peterdaniel66]

love how they gloss over the fact that the Valiant doesnt have a V8 lol

[@richardcrooks6741]

Valiant had a 2 barrel 273 as a option in 1964 and 235hp 273 option in 1965

[@MisterMikeTexas]

I'll take the Barracuda with 4 on the floor.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

Beep: Racers use the Powerglide trans not the TorqueFlite

[@thetman0068]

Yes, there are fewer shift points to get to 1:1 on a Powerglide, but that only matters for performance. For roadability, the TorqueFlite would be far better suited, as the car can stay at lower engine RPM at certain speeds. That equals less noise and better economy.

[@saltisami]

the say chevy II had no convertible version. thats not true

[@jeffking291]

I’d still go with the Chevy. 📻🙂

[@smilsmff]

sorry Valiant was never a eye candy car, only now are they desired

[@bruceh92]

Even if the Valiant wasn't beaten with the Virgil Exner ugly stick it stands no chance against the two Chevies.

[@fairfaxcat1312]

The narrator sounds like a three-pack-a-dayman.

[@raparperi-yf6hg]

I WISHD ID HAD SOME DAY VALIANT AND AMAZON

[@kmyre]

Valiant, aka why Chrysler ended up needing a bailout in 1979

[@LearnAboutFlow]

Good video but I didn't understand the concept - The guy who is looking for a car (in other words, knows nothing of the features/benefits) is the one who is stating all the features/benefits.

[@303nitzubishi4]

The narrator is explaining everything to him as he is looking at both cars. There are two different voices talking to each other in this slideshow

[@fairfaxcat1312]

KZbin commentator “303nitzubishi4”explained the apparent confusion between the identity of the customer and the identity of the seller. The commentator solved the mystery by pointing to a third party, a narrator, who lays out the respective features of the automobiles considered for purchase.

[@Doobie1975]

To me the Chevy II didn't become a great car until 1968

[@mrjason9382]

Nice

[@HillbillyonaYZ]

Lol, and now 55 years later.. The Chevy II is a classic performance icon (that V8/4 speed option mentioned). The Valiant, well.. There was an old woman I used to see driving one. She had "Jesus Saves" stickers all over it and a row of bobble head Jesus figures in the back window. Guess we see who won this battle in the end..

[@nonyabusiness6240]

I see a lot of valiants on the road in original condition though, while the chevys have been rebuilt and modified

[@JJABRAHAM69]

I received my drivers license in 1967. I was 16. The Nova was a beautifully solid ,very in demand car amoung my peers. My sister's boyfriend had a green nearly new 1963 SS Nova. It had the cool factor, at high school. The Mopar Valiant was a cheaply made piece of junk,right from the dealer. My mother had one. I will never forget the POS push button transmission,and the ugly sounding Bendix starter. Jeez Chrysler made horrible cars,until 1968! Then they built Road Runners,Super Bee's,AAR Cuda's,Chargers and Challengers. But before 1968, Mopar made ugly,cheap,cars unfortunately.

[@cargo4441]

Well gee i will take a Falcon.

[@blairberg1081]

yea i would to or a mercury comet

[@5610winston]

Studebaker Daytona. 259 power kit, overdrive, twin traction, discs. Or add the R1 Avanti spec 289 and the Super Lark package, plus factory air.

[@chriskelleher349]

5610winston .There's always an outlier in the bunch.

[@timothykeith1367]

Either is fine for me!

[@mrpistonrecaro6483]

Hate the voice. Great videos

[@allmotorkp61]

Joke's on Chrysler when both the Corvair and Chevy II outsold the Valiant

[@jamesaandf]

If you will check 1964 sales, you’ll find the Valiant outsold both the Corvair and Chevy II.

[@imagrandpa]

Better marketing, not the best car

[@matt9759]

101 hp in a v6. And also 2 speed automatics?? Damn. Technology has come a long way. My 4 cylinder 2017 Chevy Cruze has 153hp and a 6 speed automatic

[@philtripe]

they are in line sixes and the 101 hp has the three speed...the two speed powerglide is a chevy transmission which had a 155 hp optional in line six...that old chevy may not be more reliable than your car but it is more durable...those powerglides were nearly indestructible

[@GlassTopRX7]

Power has come a long way those inline 6's were fairly large displacement from 2.8L-4L. The hp was a joke but they made decent torque so even with 2 speed in normal driving they got around fine. Plus the cars were light, they weren't burdened with modern crash safety requirements.

[@mrjason9382]

Like

[@igorsedlic1692]

Plimunth rules

[@HIDHIFDB]

I prefeer a Chevrolet commodore 4 speed on the floor.

[@717rocket]

Chevy ll.

[@gordon4385]

This one was easy: either Chevy wins.

[@LawrenceRoss1906]

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