Another great video. An interesting note on the conversion kits is that they use a flex hose based on where the drum brake steel line terminates vertically on the outside of the frame rail, they also use a caliper with the hose tapped in a different location than a factory disc brake car. It is a little more involved to make it like a factory disc brake set up but is a neater installation when done without any hose clearance issues in the wheel well. The factory disc brake set up used a bracket on the upper control arm to secure the flex hose and ran to a steel line that terminated horizontally on the top of the frame rail. I have used the kits as a starting point and make the necessary changes to make it like a car that left the factory with disc brakes and no chance of the flex hose interfering with anything.
@VinylVillageGarage6 ай бұрын
Even the replacement brake line kits makes a difference between factory disc brake or disc conversion.
@johnmilner7603 Жыл бұрын
7:14 From the Camaro Supplement manual. When you spin the rotor, torque the nut to 12 lbs ft. Then backoff the nut one flat and insert cotter pin. If the slot and pin hole do not line up, back off the nut an additional 1/2 flat or less as req'd to insert the cotter pin.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
That is great Info, that would cover just about any hub type rotor. To tight is just as much and issue as too loose.
@perrywe1 Жыл бұрын
really helpful tips on the pad install. I did not know that you could bend the little ears on the pad to make a tighter fit. Thanks Jon!
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Glad to help. It helps prevent brake squeaks and keeps it in place during assembly too. It was taught to me while I was in high school shop class and just always did it that way since
@Adam-ik9mi Жыл бұрын
Looking awesome!! I can't wait to continue seeing the progress!! Like you stated in an earlier video.....I am still waiting to take your body flipper dimensions....lol 🤣
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
It seems the car flipper tool is quite popular, never thought it would draw that much attention. Wish I could find my original drawings. I am sure we can come up with all the needed measurements.
@GoGoGarage Жыл бұрын
Great job, I probably used the same kit by Right Stuff.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 disc brake upgrade is a must in my opinion for a car that will driven frequently
@pontiacontap Жыл бұрын
You learn something every day! I've done breaks on my '69 countless times and I've always had a little bit of squeak, mostly from the rears (D154 style kit). I've never seen or heard anybody discuss the outboard pad tangs as a culprit.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you learned something, thats our goal. It was taught to me while in my technical training, it was a very in depth course on all the details from pad replacement, brake line bending and flaring, turning rotors, rebuild calipers and wheel cylinders. All the things we don’t do now, it’s cheaper just to replace instead of rebuilding nowadays.
@jayburnham3879 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I’m almost to this step with similar parts. First-timer and slightly nervous, this helps a lot. Thanks!
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing then. Glad to help that’s why we are doing this and of course if you do have a question during your install just ask. Either I can help or some of the other viewers might have the answer.
@dantwomey Жыл бұрын
Very well done and showing the same struggles we all have.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you, hoping to fill in the blanks for some of us, especially if doing disc brake conversion
@kenny3217 Жыл бұрын
Good call on the conversion, disc brakes are so much easier to work on than drums. I tend to have trouble getting the auto adjusters put together right for drums.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Drums can be a bit fickle especially on the front to keep it stopping in a straight line, it can be done but I really prefer disc brakes on the front.
@firstgenerationgarage2803 Жыл бұрын
Great job brother that Firebird is going to stop with no problem I love the way everything is looking so nice and clean people can really see that a car can be nicely done right at home 👍
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, this car will be super clean when done.
@burntclutches Жыл бұрын
John great tips and content as always looking forward to the next video and seeing progress on the assembly!
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Making nice progress but the weather is getting cold so it might slow me down a bit, don’t really like the cold so much anymore.
@shaggyscarshop Жыл бұрын
Great work. Thank you for the tip with the brake pads, that one is going into my permanent memory lol. I have always preferred hand packing bearings. I have used the tool but I find it kind relaxing hand packing them. I cant wait to see you fire that engine up.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
It was taught to me many years ago and it just stuck in the old rememory. Spoiler it runs great and super happy with it.
@shaggyscarshop Жыл бұрын
@@VinylVillageGarage Good to hear. I cant wait to finally get my engine in and started some year.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
I want to see your custom belt drive operating. I haven’t dared try to build one but now I almost want to see if I can conquer that challenge like you are doing.
@shaggyscarshop Жыл бұрын
@@VinylVillageGarage LOL. I want to see how well it works (fingers crossed it doesnt blow apart).
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Lol, good point. I hope it works great for you
@ArrowheadGarage Жыл бұрын
Now you tell me to install the brake and fuel metal lines BEFORE the engine goes in... hahahhahaha I going to just bite the bullet and go disc up front in my Bird after watching this video!
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
It’s worth the effort to upgrade, disc brakes stop so much nicer.
@handydand Жыл бұрын
Great video Jon! Can’t wait to start on my ‘69!
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Right on! did you get it out of the corner?
@jamesforehan2809 Жыл бұрын
Used to place a little blue loctite on the threads of the two bolts that mount the caliper. Have you heard of doing that?
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
I have on the newer cars that bolt the saddle to the spindle, its a must. I never have seen an issue with this style caliper mounting bolt backing out. I haven’t used it. I am sure it would not hurt if someone did on this design
@ronswett6234 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Jon, keep up the good work. You keep me motivated 🙂 on my bird.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Awesomeness glad to help, we are all doing our part to save them birds!
@davidpayton1338 Жыл бұрын
Hey John just curious why you don’t use. Some source of Loctite? If I’m ever in the area I would be honored to come help you on a project. It seams I learn something new with ever video you post. Have A Blessed Thanksgiving Brother🙏
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Good point I do have red and blue in my top Right drawer of the tool box. It would not hurt I suppose. The lock nuts are ok but the loctite would hold even better. If ever in the Indy area or will be let me know I would be happy to have someone to play cars with. Happy thanksgiving to you!
@wmorri003 Жыл бұрын
Great tip on the brake pads. I was also taught this by my uncle when I was very young. That Mountain Dew sounds pretty nasty lol. I'd like to see a video of putting quarters on a 69 firebird :P
@Adam-ik9mi Жыл бұрын
If you go to his videos, he has 4 different videos of installing rear quarters on 68 bird. Same process just without louvers cut in.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Interesting, your uncle taught you right and I just might have to help you do yours and do a video. We can leave the fruit quake dew the store of course
@wmorri003 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-ik9mi Thanks. He's a friend, we've talked about him coming over and helping and making a video.
@wmorri003 Жыл бұрын
@@VinylVillageGarage You know I'm getting close. Trying to do all I can to get everything done on my own. Quarters are just freaking me out! I figure if I could get you to stop by and show me where to start/cut thats all i'd really need.
@Adam-ik9mi Жыл бұрын
Lol, my apologies!! Didn't know there was a hidden punt...lol...I hope the best of luck with your build, I totally understand the goosebumps that come with taking a cut-off wheel to a car!!
@charlieseidelmann6702 Жыл бұрын
Great instructional segment. An observation and a question. Firstly, did you ever see a spindle with a gasket on it's face between the flat machined surface closest to the shaft, that mated with dust shield? I did once, material was the same type of composition as a water pump or fuel pump to block gasket. Never saw one again- this was factory GM components like what you're working with. Second, Do you know where I can get the keyed washers? I'm pretty sure mine have gotten lost, and I like knowing where all my pieces are way in advance so I can finish up a job and not have to come back to it. (already have too many of those!!!)
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Yes I have seen those gaskets. I took a set of disc brake spindles of a 1970 Buick GS to convert my first Firebird to disc brakes, this was back in the day when nobody had aftermarket kits so you had to find the parts and make your own kit so to speak. They had those gaskets other then that I think I had a right stuff kit that had them but i can’t remember 100%. As for the keyed washers i have the two that came off the drum brakes from the great pumpkin, pretty sure they are on my tool box at work. I can check tomorrow for you
@woodrowdelozier1 Жыл бұрын
😎
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnyuenkel8790 Жыл бұрын
Looking for a right side windshield. Curious if you have any line on one project looks good though
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
That’s a tuff one. I don’t, unfortunately the aftermarket doesn’t help much for those parts either. It could be fabricated definitely will take some time. Is yours rusted out or bent up?
@johnyuenkel8790 Жыл бұрын
A tree hit the corner
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Not cool. The reason I asked is if it was rusted you have to find or fabricate a new one. Being bent there is a chance it could be repaired might have to cut it apart and pieces out of it but it’s possible.
@stevenpringle7813 Жыл бұрын
What size are your front wheels? I am wondering about the kit you used and the clearances to the wheels for my application. thanks. Great video again.
@charlieseidelmann6702 Жыл бұрын
That brake kit is a widely available kit, identical to the GM components used from at least 1969-72. Used in the Abody (Chevelles,GTO,442,Skylark) F body (Camaro, Firebird) and X(Nova, Ventura, Omega).Smallest wheel you'll probably get away with is 15"
@stevenpringle7813 Жыл бұрын
@@charlieseidelmann6702 I thought the Firebirds and Camaros of that vintage had 14" wheels. Mine are 14"
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
I have 14 rally 2 wheels for this car. Keep in mind not all 14” rally wheels clear the caliper they are different. There is a Chart on line on which ones clears. I also did a video on this about 6 months ago or so. There is a 2 letter stamp by the valve stem hole to help identify which rim you have.
@stevenpringle7813 Жыл бұрын
@@VinylVillageGarage Okay that information is huge. I had no idea. There is almost nothing worse than buying an expensive part or kit that you are sure will fit and then when it arrives at the door you find out that it doesn't. Thanks again.
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Glad to help, we are all in this together trying To save as many birds as possible is the goal.
@davidbisnette7673 Жыл бұрын
Looks great , which kit is this and coil springs? Stock ride height?
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
The disc brake kit is part#AFXDCOIC-11 It also has a booster, master cylinder, and modern proportioning valve. The coil springs are stock height moog brand part 6312. There is like 30 different part numbers for front springs for the 1st gen f-body cars. And it comes down to engine size, transmission, with A/c, and so on. The ones I bought are a bit of a guess and i hope they work.
@davidbisnette7673 Жыл бұрын
@@VinylVillageGarage Thank you , you got her going together nicely
@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I believe this will be a nice car when done