1968 Hurst/Olds vs 1969 Chevelle SS - PURE STOCK DRAG RACE (single heads-up)

1968 Hurst Olds 455 vs 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396 375hp L78 (Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race)
The first car is a 1968 Hurst Olds. Oldsmobile knew the people wanted a big-cube engine in a midsize car, but GM made that impossible with the 400ci limit (later removed in 1970). However, when Oldsmobile joined-up with Hurst, they would ship the cars to Demmer Engineering in Lansing, Michigan where the old engine was removed and swapped with the breathtaking 455ci BEAST. Since it wasn't completed in a GM plant, GM looked the other way. You like torque? It's got just a little.... 500 lb-ft. Horsepower? 390. A surprisingly good handling car as well, and it even had front disc brakes. The opponent is no slouch. You're looking at a 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle SS396. However, this one is even more special, because it's a L78 car. Yes, a VERY underrated 375 horsepower. Those cars can take some abuse. Both great, I want 1 of each (or maybe 2 of each?) in my garage.
Remember, both cars compete in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race class, so check them out on fb and their website. Here are the rules:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster then 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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[@CarsAndZebras]

would you guys drive that Hurst/Olds? Or is it not nice enough for you?... I’d drive the living s**t out of that thing. The Chevelle too.

[@jeffnorbert1871]

Poll worked fine for me

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@jeffnorbert1871 yeah, looks like it just started working. 👍

[@eyeshocars9978]

I'll drive that B**CH AS IS ✅

[@matthewbittenbender9191]

Oh, I’d drive that Hurst. I drove it...ALL...NIGHT...LONG! You know what I’m talkin’ about.

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

I love an original. The owner better not slap a purple flame job with 22 inch rims on that car.

[@burtvincent1278]

In my humble opinion GM should have scuttled the Buick and kept the Oldsmobile.

[@CarsAndZebras]

would have been interesting to see

[@gearmeister]

Oldsmobile lost it's performance edge, too many grocery getters... they stopped production of V8's many years ago, the "corporate" V8 was a Chevy... lol... performance sells cars....

[@oohgee3093]

Ima a BUICK MAN!!!! so I can't agree bro, got love for Oldsmobile ❤🚀

[@gearmeister]

I was a total Chevy freak only until I saw a 442 run and hide from a 454 Chevelle (on the big end), both cars were messaged... yes, it was at the illegal drags (street tires)

[@jeremythompson9122]

They should've kept Pontiac too. No idea why they kept Buick when they already still had Cadillac. Why were two luxury divisions needed by GM? Didn't make much sense to me

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

The patina on the Hurst Olds is awesome. The 455 w/D heads is awesomer!

[@CarsAndZebras]

yeah, I kind of hope he leaves the car as it is. Definitely unique 👍

[@burtvincent1278]

Ever since I pulled the heads off a 350 olds for a master mechanic directed valve job it didn't need and found exhaust valve rotators, this Ford guy became a fan. I've owned 2- 1970 Cutlasses and loved them both. By the way the problem wasn't burned valves it was bad plug wires.😆

[@CarsAndZebras]

olds knew what they were doing! definitely an underrated brand

[@barcrrt850]

Only 500 Hurst Olds built in 68'. Rode in one once. Amazing car!

[@CarsAndZebras]

515 I hear. i’ve always wanted to buy one… Until I looked at the prices currently. 🤣

[@davidcollis4758]

@@CarsAndZebras Yeah it's 515.

[@mattrodgers4878]

515 were built. All of Oldsmobile’s records were lost in a fire sometime in the 70s, so unfortunately you can’t research a Oldsmobile’s history like you can with Pontiac and PHS. I do remember reading an article in the Olds club newsletter that records were kept by the Hurst Corp. imagine my surprise reading the first 68 Hurst Olds was sold by my hometown Olds dealer. I figured it would have gone to some high ranking Olds top brass

[@barcrrt850]

@@mattrodgers4878 Yeah. I was off by 15. Thank you all for correcting me.

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@barcrrt850 - I don’t know if you got the memo, but they built 515 ‘68 Hurst/Olds

[@Ballenxj]

The Chevelle put on a good showing, but the Olds with a 13.1 compared to the Chevelles 13.74? that was a huge lead for the Olds. Getting 500 ft lbs of torque to launch on street tires was a trick, so no wonder on the bad start of the Olds. Nevertheless, I thoroughly enjoyed this race. My best times in a W30 on street tires was 13.4. Thumb up to you for this race that got an old olds guys Heart thumping. These are my favorites. ;-)

[@CarsAndZebras]

I keep thinking about buying an Oldsmobile. The Hurst/Olds is definitely too expensive, but I’d be happy with a 442. almost pulled the trigger on one two months ago, kind a wish I would have after editing this video!

[@Ballenxj]

@@CarsAndZebras If you can find a good one for decent money, go for it! The problem being is everybody thinks they're made of Gold now days, and are priced way too high. Then again, they aren't making any more. I'm afraid that unless I come into serious money, I will have to be content watching videos such as yours.. At least I can say that in my youth, I ran my multiples of muscle cars the way they were meant to be run. I even hung out in Van Nuys in the middle seventies for both the racing, and the cruising.

[@Dayandcounting]

Launching with big low end torque is easy, launching a peaky solid lifter BBC is much harder, typically have a few hundred rpm range between smoking the tires or bogging the engine. One of the reasons many people have little appreciation for the 396, one the 325 and 350hp version weren't impressive and the 375hp required practiced finesse to launch well.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@Dayandcounting The secret to getting decent traction, with bias-ply tires was to overinflate them to 35-38 PSI.

[@gearmeister]

Voted for the obvious choice: Olds will Rocket 🚀.... 😁

[@CarsAndZebras]

definitely a rocket! 👍

[@badgerbait8351]

The 442 was as absolute gem! "3:08 gears." "Barf...I threw up!"

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@ZeroBoostBuick]

I really dig the look of that olds. Definitely would rather drive that over a shiny perfect paint, body and interior because then I could truly enjoy the car with out having to worry about scratching, chipping etc. Just drive it like I stole. Then again, I drive all my cars and bikes like I stole them regardless if they're new and perfect or old and tired.

[@williamclark5385]

That Hurst/Olds is super cool

[@CarsAndZebras]

😎

[@Bridging_the_Political_Divide]

Was never in doubt, Olds beat up on Chevy's all the time. Horsepower sells cars (Chevy), but torque wins races (Olds).

[@AlejandroP1980s]

Christopher McBurney what about a 1971 mustang boss 351 vs Oldsmobile

[@Bridging_the_Political_Divide]

I don't know much about them, but I can see online it runs very strong. I know that Cleveland is a strong motor though.

[@patrickstearns7958]

I love my 463.tourque is king.

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

You would think the owner of the HO would restore it eventually... These are GORGEOUS with the Silver and Black paint scheme..

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

So are the 69s and 72s with the White and Gold Paint scheme..

[@jordanwiley4582]

something to be said about a beat up old muscle car but a restored drivetrain.

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

All a matter of personal taste...

[@CarsAndZebras]

I’ll have to ask him his plans, I’d probably leave it. But the car is complete... even has the rare 1-year only correct hurst badging

[@v.e.7236]

My father brought a Hurst/Olds home one day and that car was pretty! And pretty fast. Much to my father's delight, it had a 4-speed that he loved hammering through the gears in. I got to go w/ him during one of his quarter mile runs and was in awe of his ability to get through those gears so fast, w/o ever letting his foot off the gas pedal. I don't rrcall what kind of times he was posting, as I was too thrilled to take notice of that. Sadly, that car got totaled by a drunk old man in an old Continental. What I thought was really cool was the engine was gold when my father and I pulled it out of the wreck; like a piece of precious metal. The vaunted 350 Rocket.

[@ronaldwatson1951]

That Old's Hurst was no joke, I had a 66 GTO that wasn't stock and couldn't do Nothing with that Old's. Good video

[@phogwood545]

That 455 Hurst Olds is just too damn sweet :D

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Love those Bud Lindemann clips almost as much as this channel 🤣🤣 Nailed the 16 candles spoof too!

[@CarsAndZebras]

all those movies were kind of the same back then anyway 😆

[@MrTheHillfolk]

@@413x398 Haha whoops , I had too many brewskis at lunch !!🤣🤣

[@jeremythompson9122]

Love those Bud Lindemann road tests. I watch em on KZbin sometimes

[@MrTheHillfolk]

@@jeremythompson9122 yup! Burnem up!

[@davedavis775]

You can see lots of the Bud Lindemann road test right here on KZbin. They really tested the cars and drove the crsp out of them giving honest feed back on their strengths and weaknesses.

[@unarammer2003]

455 olds... and i didnt watch before i voted...lol

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍👍👍😎

[@paulcondie2520]

Growing up, my best friends parents had a 68 442. Fortunately we got to take it often and that thing was impressive! Theirs had the 4sp. Would just roast the tires. Was like a teal color

[@kimmorrison9169]

I recall ‘68 as the first year for the Hurst Olds. It received rave reviews at the time. Believe it was the fastest year for that model. Certainly did not see them coming and going like you did with ‘69 396 Chevelles!

[@yokoshemp]

My first car was a '68 Cutlass. Not the Hurst but still ball of fun. I had a dream a couple years ago of finding my Cutlass in a parking lot. I got in and felt the huge plastic steering wheel. The key in the dash. I started it up and put that powerglide in Drive. Then I drove off. I don't often remember dreams but that one was so vivid. She came down from heaven to give me one last ride. So good times in that old car. Put a under dash cassette player with a 20 watt power booster in it. Then added 6x9 speakers under the rear deck... she rocked. Later I'd own a '78 with the 260... pretty fast for 110hp. Even later a '92 Bravada... first vehicle that didn't leak oil on the garage floor! Didn't own it but I had a chance to drive one of those Quad 4 things.... fast fast. Junky old Corvette in the garage these days... not the same.

[@jimjungle1397]

The 1968 Hurst Olds 455 engine was hand assembled with a W-30 camshaft. The 1969 Hurst Olds got a Toronado 455 HO engine.

[@83hurstguy]

Actually, the '68 engine was neither of those. It had an Olds 98 shortblock with some parts changed, and it used a W-31/ram rod 308* cam. The heads/intake were W30, the carb was ram rod. There's no documentation of hand assembly, and it's virtually impossible to find a non-A/C H/O with its original engine.

[@jimjungle1397]

@@83hurstguy Well the Ram Rod camshaft is basically the early W-30 camshaft, shifted 5 degrees from W-30 camshaft position to the crankshaft. The 1968 Toro 455 HO w/o A/C heads were the same castings with the same size valves as the 1968 400 W-30 heads, but the chambers were slightly larger to maintain the desired compression ratio in the 455. All 1969 Toro 455 HO's got these heads, but in 1968 it was only the ones without air conditioning. Funny to think of a Toro w/o A/C. The 455 HO camshaft was similar to the 400 W-26 camshaft, with a slight shift to the crankshaft. Late 1968 W-30 with manual got a new W-30 camshaft that also came on 1970 W-30 455's with manual and optional with automatic. The standard 1970 455 W-30 camshaft with auto was the 455 HO camshaft. The term hand assembled was not the same as hand fitted as with the Ram Rod, but was the term used to building non-standard engines, such as the 1968 Hurst / Olds engine.

[@jimjungle1397]

Also in 1968 there was the W-33 390 horsepower 455 police engine for the 88. This had the high output camshaft(similar to the W-26 400 cam but different part number), W-30 head castings with slightly larger chambers and W-30 size valves, at least without air conditioning they were.

[@83hurstguy]

@@jimjungle1397 No production Toronado or police engine received W-30 heads in '68-69. The W-30 heads were D castings and installed only on W-30 or Hurst/Olds non-A/C. The D castings do not have a different size combustion chamber, mine CC'd at 82+, just like the C castings. The differences are in other places.

[@gary9426]

Two timeless classics.....both awesome!

[@CarsAndZebras]

yeah, probably two of my favorite cars! 😎

[@jordanwiley4582]

4:12 and they say muscle cars can't turn. ya just gotta have balls also "Goin' Jesse" lol

[@CarsAndZebras]

100% one of the coolest clips I’ve ever found online. you should check out the entire review video. just awesome. search “1968 hurst/Olds review” and it should pop up

[@jordanwiley4582]

@@CarsAndZebras yeah, them vintage road tests with Bud Lindemann. the 73 century 455 they do a rockford with it. lol

[@sergeantmasson3669]

My '68 Hust 442 posted sedan looked like that when we hauled it out of a CT former tobacco barn back in the mid 80's. Two years and $7000 later, it looked like new again. I drove it for 3 years and sold it for $10500. Awesome car but traction was a problem most of the time. Michelin radial tires cured most of that.

[@jamilmccall6553]

Olds Power!!!! Love the video breakdown

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching 👍

[@the.mr.nobody]

This is exactly what your editing should be every day.

[@jeremythompson9122]

I'd take the Chevelle if it was a COPO 427. But I'd rather have the 68 Hurst/Olds than a 69 Chevelle L78. The Hurst/Olds was an executive muscle car like an Olds 442, a Buick GS/GSX, or a Mercury Cougar XR-7. The Hurst/Olds is an awesome mix of horsepower and neck snapping torque along with a really comfortable interior likely loaded with luxury options. That L78 Chevelle is an awesome ride but give me the Olds

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

Still no replacement for displacement..

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@ronaldlewis6062]

That’s the deal for top end speed. Cubic Inches!! Thanks

[@Don.E.63]

Absolutely!

[@rickuyeda4818]

Back in the late 70's, my friend ran a '69 Chevelle SS with the L78 in B/SA. Open headers and 9" slicks, the car ran 11:70's. It was known as "Indian Summer". Sadly, the car burned up during the California wild fires.

[@TheBb6prelude]

When I was about 10 I had a little toy car olds mobile just like this one and it was very detailed. Such a great looking muscle car with sleek lines and a big monster of a v8.

[@jburn45acp]

Can we get a video of a 1965 Pontiac gto race?

[@CarsAndZebras]

I’ll do you one even better - a ‘65 Royal Bobcat GTO: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hobbkGaKhLt6h9k

[@tristanclark7795]

Those old cutlasses were bad ass.. good ol GM head to head!

[@samrunyan5837]

Had a Hurst Olds bought at Friedly Olds in Cedar Falls, IA. Friedly had 5 of them. This one could have been mine. The cars we should have held onto!!!

[@mr.iowegian]

I had an aftermarket non-console Hurst dual gate in my 67 Mustang in high school in the 80s. Coolest thing ever. I know own a 66 Mustang and those are going for big bucks if you can even find them!

[@karlsracing8422]

Love the 68 H/O!!

[@CarsAndZebras]

probably my favorite year for it. I always liked the silver and black paint scheme, very subtle 👍

[@crazyburkey3677]

This is why I absolutely LOVE bracket racing

[@TheBb6prelude]

That olds was showing a strong mph over the SS. That olds will go mid 12s on a proper radial slick tire no problem.

[@stevenstoll2016]

First car was a '68 442 convertible that I got from my brother in law in '73 while a sophomore in HS. (Mom wouldn't let me buy the '69 Baldwin Motion Z28 from my brother's friend that lived down the street. Boo Mom) Anyways, the 442 had NO power sapping options, as in no power steering or brakes, NOTHING. Close-ratio Muncie M22, and 3.42 gears. Absolute beast on the streets of Woodward and Gratiot in Detroit area in the mid-70's. Over hundreds of races, only got beat by a built 340 Dart that was sick, and a '69 GTO Judge. Car was rare as hen's teeth. God I miss that car.

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

A bit more even of the match since the SS396 is the 375 HP version... I think the 455 in the HO was 380 HP so a more even matchup than I originally thought..

[@CarsAndZebras]

And technically, those L78s made around 425hp. So hp edge to the Chevelle, but torque and weight advantage to the Olds.

[@jaaypriest1018]

The 455 was rated at 390bhp from the factory...

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

The SS396 vs a 400 442 would have been a more even matchup IMO..

[@John1Brady]

NICE! Learned some new things as well! Back in my teens a buddy bought a heavily used, worn faded yellow paint, steel wheels, winter driver looking 1970 442 W30 with the 370hp 455 and close ratio 4 speed. I do not ever remember checking the stats on the 1968 H/O and I am very surprised it was rated even higher! Very cool! Also surprised at how light this car was with the THM400 transmission is only 3790 with driver and I assume fluids.

[@basilcarroll9729]

The 1970 W30 4speed had the 328 cam (and better valve springs)while the 390 horse(rated) Hurst had the 308 degree cam. GM especially Olds liked to rate horsepower at about 10 percent of curb weight even if the engine had more power. The W34 Toranado was rated at 400 horse .The 70 4speed W30 had the most power ,some say as high as 440 horse,others say about 425.

[@John1Brady]

@@basilcarroll9729 Thanks for the details. That said many believe the muscle car engines were way underrated. Yes, some were but watching examples such as Nicks Garage shows that the numbers were fairly close. Here is a short video showing a W30 with stock except cam and over bore (461cid) making 427hp and 510tq... accurate? Who knows but worth asking. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6aYd6Vvi86jebs

[@John1Brady]

Here is another interesting dyno showing a stock appearing modified Olds 400. I have said it before many of the cars on Cars and Zebras are extremely good running examples that few original factory delivered cars can touch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmbOlKpuo7N3pM0

[@basilcarroll9729]

@@John1Brady Thanks for the vids John,yes Nick does a great job with his vids, he dynoed a 350 mostly stock Olds , with headers i think and got over 390 horse.

[@mathewwinney8036]

Back in the gasoline crisis, I bought a 1967 Olds 442. (I paid $1800 .) It was a 455 with a 2x4 intake (factory). Close ratio 4 speed, 4:10 posi. It had a dealer installed Hurst Shifter. It passed everything but the gas station. Fun grocery grabber! Not fun road tripping. I traded it for a "61 4cyl Scout.

[@drewdukes3897]

Yea I knew the olds would win. Cause my 68 always whoops them chevys

[@Elite59]

So did my 68' Goat!

[@markg7030]

Olds got passed the 400 cubic inch limit a full 2 years before the G.M. ban was lifted in 1970 by saying the engine was installed off site. That was untrue and we learned the 455 engines were factory installed.

[@CarsAndZebras]

demmer engineering actually installed the 455s just down the road from the factory, I believe

[@markg7030]

@@CarsAndZebras Demmer was supposed to have done the 455 install, but later on it was said the cars arrived from the factory with the engines installed.

[@coreyjenkins3056]

350 or 455 Gold Rockets ARE monsters!!!!!!!!!!

[@impalaman9707]

Forget about speed, torque, horsepower, etc for just a second. Let's talk about looks. The rounded-bodies of those late 60s/early 70s Chevelles/Cutlass/Skylarks/Lemans are the sexiest designs that GM ever came up with, in my opinion. They just scream masculinity, machoness, and you add the speed, the roar from the tailpipes, and some nice wheels and its just icing on the cake!

[@bruceallen6016]

Thumb up for a good race. PS, I was rooting for the Olds to win and it didn't fail.

[@jayreezy6733]

Hurst Olds 442 W30 is my favorite muscle car! Would love to own one 1 day

[@63MacGuy]

I wonder if the transmissions had anything to do with it?

[@lilmike2710]

I get emotional seeing the Hurst Olds. My late father owned one that he bought from the showroom floor in 1969. I have photos of us all in and around the car. He owned it until he passed away in 1981 when I was 12 and my mother was forced to sell it to cover expenses. Just knowing that I'll never be able to own one. at this stage in my life I know I'll never be able to have one. Just knowing that causes me an indescribably sad feeling.

[@harveyschindler9554]

I started with a ‘68 cutlas convertible, paid $500 back in 1975. That’s one I wish I could get back.

[@ckryses3962]

Yeah it's a universal Fact that Hurst don't fool around but also don't you guys see 68s are so handsome and muscular in look than any Chevelle?? Those four split headlights always steals my heart..

[@johnwilkerson2195]

I'd drive that Olds anywhere!

[@New_Jax_City]

@carsandzebras did u talk to the owner of the #chevelle? Was it a #real #bergerchevy car? Per the trunk emblem.

[@CarsAndZebras]

unfortunately, no, it was one of the last cars I filmed and he had to get it lined up. I’ll ask him this fall if it’s a true Berger car, but I assume it is

[@gordocarbo]

13.2 at 107 in 68? Wow thats movin for the time esp a stocker! Digging the one in the vid. Funny as hell by the way NEighbor 2 doors up from me in the 70s had a 68 442 and cutlass S? Light silvery green color Engineer, youd never know he was a car guy and was always tweaking the tune on those. No idea as a kid they could rip anything on our street.

[@tabbott429]

I had a 1969 455 Olds 2 barrel with 490 lbs of torque in high school. I changed tires every couple weeks in auto shop with "free" tires. Turbo 400 does real good against abuse yes indeed!

[@Manning713]

thank you I loved th video and I love Oldsmobiles !!!!

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching 👍

[@nellyfarnsworth7381]

WHAT'S THE DRIVER'S WEIGHT???

[@rocketfire1348]

Wait do they use slicks in pure stock? Idk that much about it and I never see them with it, might just be me though

[@barnabyjones6995]

Love the original Bud Lindeman test footage!

[@nikeboybands9760]

The breakfast club skit was beautiful 😂😂😂😂

[@g.prince6265]

Thank you🤘

[@markw6265]

H/O Baby! ......defiantly in my top 3 60's muscle. My 02 SS H/C/I runs 12.2's with 3.23's / crap street tires Would be fun to run against these guys.

[@CarsAndZebras]

usually the FAST drags will let you run against them during time trials, if you’re interested

[@mikemiller659]

Smiles for the Nixon Agnew sticker

[@kennethbrooks4755]

Awesome great information

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching! 👍

[@jburn45acp]

I wonder what time the olds would get with 4:10 gears?

[@CarsAndZebras]

no idea, I wonder if it’d be too much gear? 3.91 might be the sweet spot

[@gt-37guy6]

Jburn27 Olds and Buick 455 s don't really benefit from tall gears, and ruins any thought of actually driving the car...say like a freeway.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

GT-37 Guy what better 1969 chevelle 454 or 1969 Oldsmobile 442 w30

[@imakittycat1302]

3.9s should be stock gears in a H/O. With drag tires it should hit low to mid 12s all day on a good track.

[@imakittycat1302]

@@gt-37guy6 you mean short gears .

[@RoadRunnergarage8570]

Gotta give the edge to the HO... More cubes...

[@CarsAndZebras]

Hurst/Olds... a most excellent choice

[@johnfloyd838]

I absolutely love cutlass's 😎👍

[@hoost3056]

Wasn't the W31 a small block? I thought the 308 cam was in the W30.

[@eyeshocars9978]

Yes but used the same 308 cam in the big block 455 hurst olds and small block 350 w31

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

Cool Oldsmobile I love it

[@seeing1111]

Great video

[@tobycleo]

are these cars usin old bias tires?

[@williamtate6268]

I own a68 cutlass convertible. Best car I’ve ever owned!

[@ronmueller3074]

Back in 69, during time trials. I went again a His & Hers 442 I got them off the line For about 3/4 of the 1/4 mile I had them beat. Then their CU inches took over. I lost. I had a 68 Mustang fast back. Sorta modified at the time.

[@davidcollis4758]

W31 is for the small block Olds 350. W30 was for the 455.

[@rogerweston5459]

Owned a 1970 Delta 88 convertible...455 w33...390hp..torque monster

[@ea6871]

Damn your videos I was ready for work and then had to change my pantalones fricken' car porn man!!!!!!!!!I

[@CarsAndZebras]

try editing them.... need a whole carton of new underwear

[@robertrobinson9920]

👍👍👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

Robert Robinson = 👍👍👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

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[@louiskats5116]

Goodday mate, What there not to love about the Olds, I buy Muscle Car Review each month & they have a write up about the Pure Stock Drags. There was a fair bit written about that Old's in the last issue I got & like you love my Old's, my favorite of the GM brands. So 1968 was the year of the new F body GM, so basically the Chevelle & the Old's are the same body, but in my opinion the Old's has a nicer rear quarter finish & curves with a almost fast back look compared to the Chevelle. The Chevelle is nice but the Old's is awesome. Great race you just knew the Old's will kick arse all the way, again 2 x 12 seconds machines is fast in anyone's language. Can you please feature this Old's again just looks wicked. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

yes, the Olds will have its own best of 3 drag race video in the future...and it’s fine-tuned for that race! you’ll see it in a few months. 👍😎

[@louiskats5116]

@@CarsAndZebras You are killing me, leaving me to hang out to dry, couple of months you are kidding 😭

[@gt-37guy6]

Louis katt's, , these are GM A body cars. 😄

[@louiskats5116]

@@gt-37guy6 Thanks mate, I knew they were some kind of body, just didn't know which letter ☺

[@gt-37guy6]

@@louiskats5116 Anytime....now you can drill me on body types for Holden Interceptors ---! ha ha... take care.

[@nickajk1]

I think Rick Springfield wrote the song Jessie's girl about that Hurst Olds that is one mean machine Oldsmobile will always have a place in my heart we grew upbuying up Cutlass and442 parts around Kansas City metro area in the mid 80s to early90s every weekend all we did was searched the paper and go look at cars

[@k9fgdg]

Love these videos --- with the sound off...

[@CarsAndZebras]

I bet a lot of people wish they could do the same to you 👍

[@anthonymaniz9896]

How do you find out if my 396 is a l78

[@rcfred_689]

Love both cars and I own a 1969 Chevelle, but that Hurst/Olds is too cool. I presume that is original paint - but that engine HAS to be rebuilt?

[@patrickstearns7958]

Best vid ever.

[@flyonbyya]

What cubic inch engine for the Olds?

[@markg7030]

455/390

[@jordanwiley4582]

455. 390hp/5,000rpm 500ftlbs/3600rpm.

[@anthonypantoja5052]

Olds took the W for me 💯

[@bumstead1383]

The hurst olds is a “ going Jesse”?? Lol Love them commercials

[@tonyaxeman4381]

Based on what I know I believe that the chevy has a 403 cid corvette engine . I am a olds guy .

[@googleusergp]

John Deery eventually would buy out Friedley Olds which was located in Cedar Falls, IA. The Deery name is still in the car business as of 2021. The Chevrolet was from Berger Chevrolet which is still in business and located at 2525 28th St SE, Grand Rapids, MI 49512.

[@TracyKearTk]

There's no doubt the Oldsmobile is going to get it done just because of the compression ratio 10.5 also the 500 foot pounds of torque I would say the Chevelle will probably drop him on the line because of the 410 gear ratio. But that torque is going to come back.

[@TracyKearTk]

I've had a 1972 Delta 88 Oldsmobile also a 1973 Cutlass Supreme with a 1968 455 in it bored 30 over of course 11:1 compression 410 gears. Best time on 1/4 Mile 13.0 I should have put slicks on the back I would have probably ran mid 12 . I was laying Rubber in all 3 gears with street tires. I also had a 1974 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 rocket my everyday driver. Also had a 1977 Cutlass Supreme everyday driver. It also had a 350 rocket these cars were very slow but they were comfortable to drive for me and my wife and my kids definitely grocery getters. Absolutely suck in the snow. Very dependable engine transmission. I had to rebuild the carburetors on all the 455 and 350 Rockets quadrajets.

[@donahuewittner3022]

My dad had a 78 chev short box 2wheel drive it was a diesel at one time when he bought the truck they had a 455 olds same color as the 68hurst olds engine n the truck had a posi but I remember him racing cars with it n beating them it would lightem up pretty good then he put a 350 Chevy in it after that the short box wasn't fun anymore

[@joequillun7790]

I thought GM had a ban on cubic inches on the A bodies back then. No more than 400s. How come Olds got a 455?

[@slyane7320]

Did I see plastic inner fenders on that Olds...? 🤔😁

[@CarsAndZebras]

yes, the Hurst/Olds used those in 1968

[@slyane7320]

@@CarsAndZebras YES SIR

[@gt-37guy6]

442 W30 cars used them as well...

[@mattrodgers4878]

All the Oldsmobile A bodies from 68-72 used plastic.

[@slyane7320]

2 ways to go faster,more power...less weight...those inner fenders cut a lot of weight.

[@tommywatterson5276]

The Chevy was 396 vs Olds 455. Olds was lighter, more HP and torque. What'd ya expect. I think the Chevelle SS did come with a 425 as well. ??

[@Hunter-yj7ul]

Id rather have A/C compressor than a larger carburetor or d cast heads! Life choices my dude.

[@jamescasello8100]

GM had no 455ci in 1968. They came out for the 1970 models. I suppose the olds was not stock.

[@sometimesieatcake4156]

No. The Olds 455 was released in 1968. You could have just taken two seconds to find that on the Internet. Pretty darn easy to do.

[@jamescasello8100]

Sometimes I Eat Cake my bad. Didn't know that

[@peterrivney552]

Sorry to say that the "F" heads marine heads were the best then "C" ,. "B & D" heads there was one 4-speed build.. I'll love to have that '68 car I've had quite a few Olds allready '64 F-86 Deluxe,. '65 442 hardtop 4-gear, '67 Cutlass Supreme 2 door hardtop, & '67 442 ragtop.. 67 Delmont 88,. '66 full size with 425 c.i. plus's a few more My buddy had a '70 W-30 manual steering and breaks we used to drag that we got 12:60's out of it with a few tricks...

[@Rocketman442-RC]

So what makes this a Hurst/Olds? Other than some stick on badges? Did anyone check the vin to verify that its a true Hurst car

[@theangrydragon182]

People like you are so obnoxious.

[@bigbline405]

Nice throw to bud lindeman man and the chevelles on American muscle car on speed channel???

[@kick6013]

After watching again, probably more traction and it’s there.

[@ejb9545]

I had the same race from a 60-mph roll when I was a kid the Chevelle was a 69. And I was driving a 68 herst olds exactly like the one in this video. I smoked the Chevelle