1968 Pontiac GTO - First Test of High Compression, Big Valve Heads

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RamblinAround

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@TYPHIS4
@TYPHIS4 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid ,And a great project. I have a 1968 GTO I bought the day I graduated from H.S. I still love it.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@douglasshreve9851
@douglasshreve9851 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the video. It took me back to a different time, circa 1969 when I bought a brand new Pontiac GTO from chieftain Pontiac in Timonium Maryland. I wish I still had the car. It wasn’t until much later on but I came to understand just what it was that I had. The engine code was “YZ“, which was a Ram Air III (3) and it was coupled to a turbo 400. Very quickly that engine ate that turbo 400 and then another one. If I recall, I paid around $3600 for that car brand new and I sold it in 1982 for $1500. Stock, it would do low 14s around 104 miles an hour. The other thing it would do is snap motor mounts, and the fan would go right through the upper radiator hose which would really piss me off. I wanted to mention a problem that I had, well a lot of people had. The starter would overheat during warm summer days and the damn thing would not start. After the installation of a heat shield, the car would start all the time. I had to do with compression and heat and all that other good stuff. I know the 1968 version also had that problem. After it ate the second turbo 400, off to the machine shop it went and the car came back three months later with a Muncie M 22, A different petal arrangement as you might imagine. It also came with a monster pressure plate and a scatter shield, I learn to hate driving a car with that monster clutch but the car then became a frame twister so off to the machine shop it went for body stiffening. You mentioned that the car had a lot of Torque. It’s insane how much torque a Pontiac GTO has. The last thing I will say is that the first day I had the car, I almost wrecked it because of that torque. You spin that thing up and you let off the gas and it takes a while to uncouple it, so don’t do any burnouts on a one-way street with cars parked on either side, LOL! You will wind up buying quarter panels! Enjoy the car. Hang onto it. On a footnote, my car belongs to a collector now in Indianapolis, Indiana. It’s now worth over $100,000. Ain’t life grand!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Douglas, I appreciate you taking the time to share that with us. We addressed the starter issue by swapping on a modern gear reduction mini-starter. We definitely will need to add a torque strap, so it doesn't break motor mounts. Jordan just ordered a 461 stroker kit for the 400, so it's going to be making some serious torque very soon. He had the turbo 400 built to withstand 800 HP, so hopefully it will be up to task. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@gizmono2869
@gizmono2869 5 жыл бұрын
sorry for the loss buddy
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Update Nov 2nd: Just ordered a 461 Stroker kit from Butler Performance....Eagle 4.25 stroke crank, forged rods & pistons. So this entire setup is going to be changing soon. The current setup was enough to convince me to go further with the build. Now, I want to see how quick I can make it.
@BobJones-dw3up
@BobJones-dw3up 5 жыл бұрын
Have Butler match up a nice roller cam. Today's cams are far better than the factory offerings.
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave 5 жыл бұрын
Look at Jim Hand's videos. He taught me to build Pontiac's using a combination of factory parts. In the end he did use a stroked 455 (474) but was still running 7K3 heads. My own 69 GTO runs high 11's with a 455 running an 041 (Ram Air IV) cam. It sounds mean as hell and makes excellent hp. Modern roller grinds may be better over all but for a flat tappet the Ram Air IV rocks!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
@@1967davethewave I'll check him out, thanks!
@edbartone3869
@edbartone3869 5 жыл бұрын
I have a '68 400 w #16 heads stock, and run 93 octane pump gas without any additives or signs of knocking - Love the 400 and the #16 combination - great video!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed, it sounds like a few of you are running a similar setup on 93, that's good to hear.
@williamwintemberg
@williamwintemberg 5 жыл бұрын
These videos bring back a lot of memories. It's nice to see. Good Old Knuckle Busting!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@tombankwel4822
@tombankwel4822 4 жыл бұрын
You have force you Are strong in the force use it you Are the Best mecahnic i have seen in 900 years yoda is that age so true i love your videos thank you jeff and Jordan for this video i enjoy every moment
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom, we're glad you like the video my friend!
@SteveHolsten
@SteveHolsten 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new GTO video Jeff & Jordan.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Steve, we appreciate it!
@tombankwel4822
@tombankwel4822 4 жыл бұрын
You Are so good it took me 4 years to be a mecahnic but you Are a true mecahnic and a jedi it must be in the genes from your dad and grandad
@michaelreardon7667
@michaelreardon7667 5 жыл бұрын
I had a '69 GTO , same #16 heads. Used it as my daily driver for years on 93 octane pump gas with a lead substitute. Absolutely no issues at all. Enjoy!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael, that's good to hear.
@marc196050
@marc196050 5 жыл бұрын
Nice build. I have a 69 GTO convertible with a manual transmission., so it has Ram air 3 heads. I went with dished pistons and slightly over bored cylinders. It’s all stock and runs good on pump gas. It’s meant to be a reliable cruiser, but still goes good when hitting the pedal. It will burn tires until I hit 3rd gear with 3:23 gears (air conditioned car). So it’s fun enough without high compression.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Pontiac can definitely make plenty of power at 9:1 compression. They seem to pull tall gears really well too. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@russellhale7694
@russellhale7694 5 жыл бұрын
A GTO t-shirt is on it's way to the UK! - thanks for the updates! - I will get a photo of the shirt with my friend's recently purchased 3rd Gen Camaro RS, which hadn't ran for 6 years but now running sweet (just with the 305 in it at the moment)
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell, we appreciate the support! We'd love to see that 3rd gen too. Thanks again!
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
Good choice...I learned about high comp heads when I was late teens & early 20's. I had another lesson when I got locked up this last time. I had 3 550cid Caddy motors & 1 473 Caddy motor. The 473 got the High Comp heads. I also found out about Rad Cad. Kinda had to kick my own ass because I could have had 2 badass trucks. I believe the head swap would give me 1hp per cu.in. I love the sound of your engine Jordan...you did real good!!!! Aloha, Chief
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a high compression Caddy motor would be mean. Those things really cranked out the torque. Thanks again Chief!
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround got the idea from Truckin' Magazine...the "Chevillac" I learned about what I had in our Junk Yard too late. But if I ever find the Caddy's & a C10...I'll be ALL OVER THAT!!! That's where I learned about the head swap for 500hp @ the flywheel.
@davidjohnson8474
@davidjohnson8474 5 жыл бұрын
I've had those heads too and loved them on my 71 455 in my LeMans! I found something I liked even better which are 6X heads and they breathe crazy! Good luck with the 68
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
There is almost no difference in flow between the 16's and 6X heads, stock or ported. The guys at Butler said, if anything, the 16's flow a bit better...but it's a negligible difference. The 6X's are a great choice for 455's though, because of the larger chambers and lower compression. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@OldManFrank
@OldManFrank 5 жыл бұрын
*It's hard to watch your videos sometimes; I can imagine hanging with my Dad while watching.*
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand that completely, I lost my Dad about a year and half ago. It's definitely not easy sometimes. ~Jeff.
@xr8rick
@xr8rick 5 жыл бұрын
Lost my Dad on Boxing Day 2016. Miss him like crazy.
@view2see1
@view2see1 5 жыл бұрын
When cars had character 😍
@olikat8
@olikat8 5 жыл бұрын
There are some cars out there with character. Not many, most are appliances, completely there with you on that. My daughter chose a GT350 for her car and that thing is like driving a cartoon.
@pdinardo9472
@pdinardo9472 5 жыл бұрын
Love that car bud. It's a beast! Those body style ones. Are my favorite GTO'S
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate that!
@pdinardo9472
@pdinardo9472 5 жыл бұрын
Anytime Bud. Take care of that car man. It's now become your other wife. 😃😃😃
@DzHarryNuttz
@DzHarryNuttz 5 жыл бұрын
Those flowmasters sound sweet. People either hate them or love them. Nice bad ass car, I wouldnt change a thing on it!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate that!
@theregoesmiller389
@theregoesmiller389 5 жыл бұрын
nothin' beats bein' able to stab the throttle just to make the body / chassis shake !!! HELL YEAH !!
@shakarussanders9911
@shakarussanders9911 5 жыл бұрын
So I'm a black man and our version of the mullet is called the shag or the Dallas cut and I'm from the Dallas/Ft Worth area and that cut is still in effect you will still see guys with one till this day!😄😄 On the car topic my step dad just past away this summer and he has a late 60s firebird my mom said I could have it but I have nowhere to store it😫😵 I would love to get it on the road in tribute to him
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your step dad. Those late 60's Firebirds are sweet cars, it would be cool if you could get it going. It would be a nice way to remember him.
@shakarussanders9911
@shakarussanders9911 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround Thanks for your condolences he worked on it for years! It cranks up It just needs a new gear box and have to get the interior done
@88TRUNKBACK
@88TRUNKBACK 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a ford guy but always looked out for 16 and 670 stamped Pontiac heads while junk yardin, they were a premium before edelbrock came onto the market
@outlawMrTuff
@outlawMrTuff 5 жыл бұрын
ur Goat has come a long way! great work! only good thing about winter coming. is the time I need to chase down a rear brake leak on my 65 Goat.. think a rabbit or squirrel chewed a line.. keep up the good work! T..
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that. Since it's getting cold, I just pulled this engine back out again. I'm installing a 461 stroker kit from Butler Performance. Should wake it up quite a bit, I would imagine. Good luck with you Goat!
@bobbyelee6549
@bobbyelee6549 5 жыл бұрын
Love me some PONTIAC !!!!! Great job guys !!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@ziggassedup
@ziggassedup 5 жыл бұрын
Bingo Jordan...Air speed makes all the difference... Sounds nice and happy...I had a Mullet in the 70's...
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zig, we appreciate you watching!
@chrisscovitch7237
@chrisscovitch7237 5 жыл бұрын
HAD A RED 68 GOAT 400 WITH 455 INTERNS 850 CF.CARB. 302 CROWLER CAM 4 SPD.M-21, 4:30 PT REAR, HOOKER STREET HEADERS DEEP DISH S/S CRAGGER MAGS. SWEET.
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! I didn't know you guys built an old 50's Ford Truck...NICE!!!!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chief....yeah, that's my '48 Ford F1, it's built using late 70's F150 and F250 parts.
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround correction...48...she's a beauty Jeff!!!!
@michaelcuff5780
@michaelcuff5780 5 жыл бұрын
My bro inlaws black 68 Goat made soo much torque that it kept shovin the shocks right through the trunk floor. We just kept welding plates in the trunk and it kept right on rippin em out! Fun car! It would lift the front tires off the ground 1st and second gear!
@dylansmith7240
@dylansmith7240 5 жыл бұрын
Good job guys. Very well put together
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan, we appreciate that!
@dylansmith7240
@dylansmith7240 5 жыл бұрын
No problem man, are you running the 428 heads on it?
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
@@dylansmith7240 No, they are factory 1968 GTO 400, 4 spd, heads.
@dylansmith7240
@dylansmith7240 5 жыл бұрын
Oh okay Lol
@brettpontiac
@brettpontiac 5 жыл бұрын
Those 16 s are excellent low buck heads! I've got a set of 68 16s ported from the 90s! i have a set of 1970 13s also!Pontiac 4ever!!! lol
@charleywade3185
@charleywade3185 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent editing. Get er done.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we appreciate you watching!
@maddmaxx6730
@maddmaxx6730 5 жыл бұрын
That's no mullet, I graduated in 86 and my hair could be braided in the back. Better grow it another 2 inches at least 😉🤔🤘
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it still needs work :)
@maddmaxx6730
@maddmaxx6730 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm getting old but I still like the music loud
@bryanjohnson7067
@bryanjohnson7067 5 жыл бұрын
,sound stock 10.2 is not high compression with small cam guess u meant cylinder pressure high Weak 5500rpm.quick guess so on wet road
@GenerationXT
@GenerationXT 5 жыл бұрын
@@maddmaxx6730 Same here, the desire for loud music isn't a fad.
@YTjndallas
@YTjndallas 5 жыл бұрын
Madd Maxx 67 I graduated in ‘85, and I’m pretty sure I invented the mullet! 😂
@stevengibson2892
@stevengibson2892 5 жыл бұрын
Just Good O Boys and Sounding and Looking Great RamblinAround!!!!!!!!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven, we appreciate you checking it out!
@jimkalfakis9893
@jimkalfakis9893 5 жыл бұрын
Badass! Shit ran out from underneath it when it started! It’s not steam, it’s the devil’s breath!
@billymania11
@billymania11 5 жыл бұрын
I get a kick out of watching you guys wrench on those old pushrod V8's and slap em cars and go spinning the tires around town. Seem like harmless fun!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill, we appreciate you watching! That's all we're doing, just trying to have a good time. We don't take any of it too serious.
@EASTSIDE-313
@EASTSIDE-313 5 жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah!!! Pontiac sounds wicked!!!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, we appreciate you taking a look. Right now, I'm in the process of installing a 461 stroker kit from Butler in this engine. Should run pretty well, when I get it back together.
@EASTSIDE-313
@EASTSIDE-313 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround yeah they def run strong. My dad and i built a stroker similar to what ur doing with performer rpm heads for a customer one time and it was a breast... Torque monster lol can't wait to see urs...👍
@kevinmanning4880
@kevinmanning4880 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, was just having the same comversation with a pontiac friend. Thinking a 455 stroker with ram air 3 heads. Lots of timing advance, don't mind mixing gas too. Probably end up around 13:1 compression.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that would be pretty mean. Thanks for watching Kevin, we appreciate it!
@andyolsten3901
@andyolsten3901 5 жыл бұрын
Nice runner! I have a '68 LeMans that is close to finishing. I hope it sounds as good as your GTO. It has a stroked and bored 350, with a 460/460 cam and a 680 cfm Edelbrock on an Edelbrock 360 manifold. It has the stock large port heads, ported and relieved.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your LeMans. If you post a video of it sometime, let me know, I'd like to see it. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
@catfishjenkem2226
@catfishjenkem2226 5 жыл бұрын
Good Morning Jeff and Jordan and Happy Halloween !! Love the driving vids , reminds me of when I had my hot rods .. now I just collect trains { Your never too old for trains } firearms, and prepping .. starting on a victorian doll house for my granddaughter .. wonderful when the kids visit ,then go home
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween my friend, looks like it's going to be a cold one. I'm sure your granddaughter will love that doll house.
@catfishjenkem2226
@catfishjenkem2226 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround Thanks Jeff .. Times change ..
@sheldontravis5154
@sheldontravis5154 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds strong man, good video!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that!
@jeremydale7263
@jeremydale7263 5 жыл бұрын
I would take dealing with those header bolts once a year over ever having to do spark plugs on a warm Chevy lol
@waqarsyed6641
@waqarsyed6641 5 жыл бұрын
Badass ride that's what I own working on it
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look, I appreciate it! Good luck with yours!
@outlawd1
@outlawd1 5 жыл бұрын
Nice sounding car 👌 you have way too much fun! I had an elcamino that I would go about 20 mph in reverse slam brakes spin around backwards throw it in drive /forward and just go. Congrats on that car,I've seen your build from the start!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
We've pulled that move a couple times too :) Thanks for following along with this project, we appreciate the support!
@henryvandervort9891
@henryvandervort9891 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome car brother keep up the good work
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Henry!
@classicreaction5340
@classicreaction5340 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see #16 heads on this now! Just another little tip: If you ever do upgrade your rockers to a 1.65 ratio, you need to clearance the pushrod holes out or else they will hit the heads. Ask me how I know! LOL But if you stick with 1.5 ratio you have no worries.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, we appreciate that. That had to suck if you had the heads all the way on, before you figured out they needed clearanced :)
@classicreaction5340
@classicreaction5340 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround not only were the heads on, but it was started and actually running, but it acted like it was breathing through a straw. That's what happens when your valves are only opening about 1/3 of the way. Lol
@johnrunion7258
@johnrunion7258 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a stock RA III cam.Owned a new '64 GTO,diehard Pontiac man.Last engine I had in it was a RA IV crate engine with Holley adapter.It was a top end beast.Had 4.88's for bottom end tho.Love your ride.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, I appreciate you taking a look. I just ordered a 461 Stroker kit from Butler for this one. I'm going to do a cam swap too, while I'm at it.
@johnrunion7258
@johnrunion7258 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround Sounds awesome,thing's gonna be a torque monster.Raced a '64 LeMans Coupe,3,000lbs with a B/S blueprinted '69 RA IV crate motor in it,in the mid 70's.Swapped it out of my '64 GTO vert in '73 before I sold it.It was very fast,but the verts were 400# heavier.Last known to be in the Midland,MI area,1980 after I sold it.Later someone told me that was a $10,000 engine I had.Rub salt.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnrunion7258 Yeah, those Ram air IV's bring some serious money these days. The heads alone can go for $4 or 5K.
@GenerationXT
@GenerationXT 5 жыл бұрын
Like the car, your look reminds me of a couple of guys that were in my vocational class back in the mid-80s. I'm sold - I'll subscribe.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
@ronnysterling7694
@ronnysterling7694 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your ride set up
@zakpeterson6713
@zakpeterson6713 5 жыл бұрын
If you do go with new headers try the hedman elite headers. Just put a set in my grandpas 70 GTO and they fit like a glove. Slipped right in from the under side with zero issue. But I will say we did it on a car lift with plenty of room to angle them up in there. But yes the bolts still suck but are certainly manageable.
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 5 жыл бұрын
That's a nice car, man! Nice to see younger guys enjoying older cars. Do you know the cam specs?
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
This cam is pretty mild...I believe .443 IN/.465 EX 214/224 @ .050. I'm actually in the process of changing the whole setup again now. I just picked up a 461 stroker kit from Butler and I'll be going with a much larger cam this time. Should be fun.
@levettp
@levettp 5 жыл бұрын
That car sounds correct!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@76stingray22
@76stingray22 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad.
@86lowrider
@86lowrider 5 жыл бұрын
I run the 16 heads on pump gas with no issues. High test non ethanol. Smaller cam than what your running. Real close to what the heads ran with on the judge high output motors. First time viewer so I don’t know what the block is. 400/428/455. Awesome sounding 👍😎
@codyleemeece
@codyleemeece 5 жыл бұрын
Got a casting number for those heads?
@terrypikaart4394
@terrypikaart4394 5 жыл бұрын
There is standard and long slot rockers. Easy to see the difference. GM used long slot on high perf engines. Like the car a lot, not many left around. Nice to see it on the road.
@w41duvernay
@w41duvernay 5 жыл бұрын
With some mild machining, the hi compression gto heads can be converted over to a Chevy 3/8th stud to make the heads fully adjustable.
@fc872e1
@fc872e1 5 жыл бұрын
I liquidated my Pontiac parts more than a year ago, including a pair of 16 heads that went to a guy in Chicago. Wonder is they ended up in your car? Regardless, enjoy them! Pontiacs are amazing motors
@tucoramirez8397
@tucoramirez8397 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Senior year in 84 I drove a 71 Camaro 350 4 bolt 3 speed auto with the horseshoe to school everyday.
@CravingClassics
@CravingClassics 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet deal.. sounds great!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we appreciate that!
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 4 жыл бұрын
What are the jugs of octane booster that you guys mentioned?
@isacpeters5084
@isacpeters5084 2 жыл бұрын
What heads are you running I'm just put 6x heads on my 455 I'm eager to get out and see what it does
@southernfriedhippie
@southernfriedhippie 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have an engine restraint? Broken mounts suck. Can't wait to see it at the track next year.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
I have one on the Trans Am, but I still need to build one for the GTO. Thanks for the reminder.
@KyleGraham92
@KyleGraham92 5 жыл бұрын
Casting # 16s ? I've got a pair on my 68 with old nunzi valve springs
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, #16's...72cc combustion chamber, 2.11/1.77 valves.
@kellyaraujo273
@kellyaraujo273 5 жыл бұрын
Ninzi Ramono
@templargold6722
@templargold6722 2 жыл бұрын
Is that an aftermarket trunk lid & how was the fit ?
@dangosh3340
@dangosh3340 5 жыл бұрын
I heard “Pat at performance parts plus”. Are you guys out of Granite city area?
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we live about 20 minutes from Pat's.
@stevie..d..pontiactransamm1215
@stevie..d..pontiactransamm1215 5 жыл бұрын
I have a collection of SBC forged large journal crankshafts 302,327,350. You need Ram Air heads my man. You can still come across them online.
@morfeophantasm7435
@morfeophantasm7435 5 жыл бұрын
Stud girdles would solve the stud issues ... built a Pontiac 455 .. decked the block shaved the heads 12:1 with flat tops lol ran strong. Ran it on VP 105 .. it was in a black 77 T/A .what rear gear are you running ?
@LucoreAuto
@LucoreAuto 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see this thing still coming together, however I will curse you for making me flash back to pulling header bolts of out the '70 LeMans when we were pulling it apart. 4-5 hours of cursing and scraping knuckles... definitely not a fun time. Keep it up, you're getting yours done faster than we are!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those headers are not fun at all. I often consider whether it's worth the extra 12 or 15 HP over the good manifolds.
@stevenlynch6605
@stevenlynch6605 5 жыл бұрын
Killer stance.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven, I appreciate that.
@jimh2061
@jimh2061 5 жыл бұрын
Like the GTO but that old 4x4 truck into background is bad ass.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim, that's my 1948 Ford F1.
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 4 жыл бұрын
Does it ever NOT rain where you live? Damn.
@jasonskillman8491
@jasonskillman8491 Ай бұрын
What heads? You put on it
@paulasoderblom7580
@paulasoderblom7580 5 жыл бұрын
best gto ever bring it to Australia for the summer nats
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paula, that sure would a fun time. I think we'd have to add a big blower first though :)
@timosullivan5165
@timosullivan5165 5 жыл бұрын
I had a1970 goat in the mid 70s pass everything but a gas station, it had a Rochester Q-jet carb turbo 400 transmission 3.90 gear ratio gasoline was 44.9 cents a gallon for super shell or Sunoco 260 it was like jet fuel what a great car.
@jeeplifedeana4747
@jeeplifedeana4747 5 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 68 GTO, class of 83. I paid $700.00 for it. I wish I still had it.
@alfredodirks3537
@alfredodirks3537 5 жыл бұрын
I had and occasionally have a mullet before they were called mullets. We used to just ask for a shag cut. Any who what's in the car 400? Or 455?
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
It's a 400 right now, but today I ordered a 461 stroker kit from Butler Performance, so it's all going to change.
@alfredodirks3537
@alfredodirks3537 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround wondered when you said it had flat tops. 400 stocks pistons are dished 455s are flat other than valve reliefs. Thought heard you say stock bottom end. Cool build sounds healthy!
@gravediggerr5228
@gravediggerr5228 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Gto😎🤘💪👍👌
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that!
@chrisklotz6112
@chrisklotz6112 5 жыл бұрын
I got #13 heads on my 400 motor. Do you know if they're similar to the #16 heads you put on?
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, same 2.11/1.77 valves and 72cc chambers.
@jasonbarron6164
@jasonbarron6164 5 жыл бұрын
Wow good job thanks for sharing i m subscribing
@TheCptTrenchfoot
@TheCptTrenchfoot 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice of heads for that car. How much did you get them for?
@mattkurtz8549
@mattkurtz8549 5 жыл бұрын
What cam are you running? Awsome car!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. The cam in this video is actually pretty tame. It's an Edelbrock cam with around .443 lift and 204/214 @ .050 duration. This whole setup is changing now. I'm in the process of installing a 461 stroker kit from Butler Performance and I'm switching to a roller cam this time.
@mattkurtz8549
@mattkurtz8549 5 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround nice, you'll definitely be in the big boy leagues with that set up great show , I love beaters and home builds I have an 84 Monte with a pretty hot vortec 358 but I'm looking to go 406 or possibly big block soon
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
@@mattkurtz8549 That's cool Matt, we really like Monte's too. Good luck with it.
@jamesanderson83
@jamesanderson83 5 жыл бұрын
Stock cam? If not, what are the LSA, lift, and duration numbers?
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
It's a .443 IN / .465 EX on a 112 LSA 214/224 @ .050 hydraulic flat tappet. Not that it matters though, because today I ordered a 461 stroker kit from Butler and I'm going to either a larger solid flat tappet or solid roller.
@not2fast4u2c
@not2fast4u2c 5 жыл бұрын
I always liked Pontiac engines You can get a lot of torque and power and not spend big bucks doing it..I seen when I was a kid a 67 or 68 Pontiac grand prix ??? It was a big 2 door with hidden headlights looked like the sloped back catalina and engine was supposed to be a 428 with 11 to 1 compression
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, those 428's can make some great power. I almost bought a Pontiac 2+2 that had a 428 and a four-speed. It would really run for such a big car.
@Wireman134
@Wireman134 5 жыл бұрын
What part of the Land of Lincoln?
@stevenbaker673
@stevenbaker673 5 жыл бұрын
Nice 🐐 sunny
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven, I appreciate that!
@charlescummings1484
@charlescummings1484 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Preserve it !
@ketotrucker3528
@ketotrucker3528 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ that thing sounds like a beast! What exhaust set up??
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
It has longtube headers with 3" collectors, 3" H-pipe, and 3" Flowmaster super 10 single chamber clones with turndowns.
@ketotrucker3528
@ketotrucker3528 5 жыл бұрын
RamblinAround those turndowns I think really give it that fun mean sound! I’m all the way out the back with my 65 and thinking of doing turndowns when I’m done with my 454 swap.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
@@ketotrucker3528 I think the turndowns do make it pound off the ground a bit more, gives it a deeper sound.
@eugenecandelaria4651
@eugenecandelaria4651 5 жыл бұрын
Dont know what cam you are running but it is hard to beat Ra IV grind....Melling makes good copy ...still has bottom end...3.90 or more (numericallly) STOP using bottleneck studs....virtually impossible to get ZERO lash even with BOTTLENECK jam nuts
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Now that I know the power that a Pontiac can make, I'm going all in. Today, I ordered a 461 stroker kit from Butler Performance. I'm also going to completely go through the heads, fresh valve job, valves, ARP 7/16 studs, etc. I will be looking for a different cam too. This one is .443 IN / .465 EX on a 112 LSA. I'm definitely going to go a bit larger with the next one.
@classicreaction5340
@classicreaction5340 5 жыл бұрын
Be careful......once you really start getting into Pontiacs nothing else is the same! 😂
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
I really drank the Pontiac kool-aid now. I just ordered a 461 stroker kit from Butler Performance...forged rods, pistons.
@classicreaction5340
@classicreaction5340 5 жыл бұрын
Yup.....you're addicted. 😂
@fvgc454ss
@fvgc454ss 4 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround 3 buddys all built 461 stroker motors. One edlebrock rpm heads other 2 had Kauffman heads. Roller cam all had different specs. Hooker supercomps. They all rip! Pile of torque
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 4 жыл бұрын
@@fvgc454ss That's good to hear, we're getting really close to having this one done. The heads should be done by Tuesday, then it'll be time to start assembling it. The short block is ready and waiting.
@fvgc454ss
@fvgc454ss 4 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinAround what cam?
@CC_Top_Solutions
@CC_Top_Solutions 5 жыл бұрын
Goat sounds tight...and...all real mean have mustaches...no matter the quality of stache.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@douglassopa2544
@douglassopa2544 5 жыл бұрын
BEWARE the ponchos back! now go kick that ass,,
@jonrobichaud6332
@jonrobichaud6332 5 жыл бұрын
Nice car
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon!
@matthewcatalano755
@matthewcatalano755 5 жыл бұрын
Ever want To get rid of it got a 02ws6 regreat getting rid of my 68 everyday
@sweet_tooth0035
@sweet_tooth0035 5 жыл бұрын
Hey look its hunter cavalry from burnout paradise
@scarbourgeoisie
@scarbourgeoisie 5 жыл бұрын
When you look at the rear 3/4 view of the '68 GTO/LeMans, which was the first year of the revised body style, you can see how Chrysler pretty much copied the silhouette of this body shape for the '71 Satellite/Roadrunner/GTX. It's a dead ringer.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely do see the similarity
@truthseeker908
@truthseeker908 5 жыл бұрын
Now it will be extra easy to spin a rod bering on that pontiac engine
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a 461 Stroker kit from butler, with all ARP hardware, so it won't be much of a concern now.
@sc928porsche8
@sc928porsche8 5 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh for the old days when 10:1 was not high compression.
@moonbounce
@moonbounce 5 жыл бұрын
My Chrysler 300S V6 has 10:1 compression....no big deal.
@davidharnes3248
@davidharnes3248 5 жыл бұрын
400?
@ericmcginnis9413
@ericmcginnis9413 5 жыл бұрын
Great sounding machine! What American cars should sound like!!!! Not this catalytic restricted, computer controlled four banger or V6 garbage!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric, glad you like it!
@donnysanner342
@donnysanner342 5 жыл бұрын
Brother if ur gonna stick with cast iron Pontiac heads dont discount the 6x heads....4 tube headers help a little bit too. Basic thing is to have fun.
@brucefulper4204
@brucefulper4204 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling the truth about the need for meeting the octane requirement with those heads. Plus, the best you'll ever do porting wise is to get a 25 to 30 cfm increase per port. You'll never get them to work as well as a well ported set of Edelbrocks. But the 16's are a good poor mans race head. www.PontiacEngines.com
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd rather have it 9.3:1 or so, but I used what I had. Right now, I'm having the block machined, so I can install a 461 stroker kit. I used 22cc dished pistons to keep the compression somewhat reasonable. I'd like to run the Edelbrock heads ultimately, but I'll probably have to run the ported 16's for a bit, just because it's what I can afford right now.
@arthurr.borquez7275
@arthurr.borquez7275 5 жыл бұрын
Fucken totally RAD 🤘😆🤙
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look!
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