1969 Corvette L88 vs 1970 Hemi Cuda

427 auto vs 426 auto

[@moparmadman2544]

Mopar guy here thru and thru. That is one sweet 'Vette that beat the 'Cuda fair and square. But I love ALL vintage muscle. Music to my ears.

[@8092DJ]

through *

[@SovietBaconPig]

Same bro

[@jameskester7745]

Ya, would of been closer if the HEMI didn't spin off the line, but it's pretty hard to beat a vette off the line with stock tires

[@toddbob55]

Chryslers were garbage for build quality they still are today

[@erandy0240]

​​@@toddbob55 shut up. Hemi is the base design for the most powerful engines ever

[@jasonmenard1073]

Those l88s are good engines... Those GM guys didn't mess around when they had there pencil out that year... 427 is my kind of big block thatss a gnarly big block right there man

[@samholcombe3129]

Corvette definitely has a weight advantage here, but it’s crazy how these older cars are actually a lot lighter than the new muscle cars.

[@kurtzimmerman1637]

corvette had a engine advantage!

[@samholcombe3129]

@@kurtzimmerman1637 I like Chevy and L88 is a legend, but so is the 426 Hemi

[@davegeisler7802]

L88 + M22 + 4.56 = Perfection 🏁🏁🏁

[@OldBoldBiker]

the title says 427 AUTO but that would have been as rare as frog fur if this is an original L88/M40 car. I believe 1 of 14

[@gary9426]

The L88 was a beast!

[@onehotfl]

No losers here! All these cars are top notch and a pleasure to watch.

[@billw2710]

Corvette won, now comes the Mopar excuses.

[@bigbluezo6]

L88 is a monster wow

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

I'm a Ford guy since Birth, Nothing against the Mopar,s but the 426 Hemi wasn't all that, The 426 Race Hemi,s were a World of Difference compared to the Street Version, i actually think the 440 Six Pack on the Streets would take down any Street Hemi. Like i Said Ford born and raised, i really Love the 351 Cleveland Engine built a Couple for Me and my Brother,s 85 and 86 Mustangs Street Strip Cars, we both Ran them for a Few Years, my Brother still does, Going Very Low 11,s on a Pump Gas Radial Tire Car through a Single 4150 Holley Carb. I switched up my Combo to a 460 Big Block, Going Low Nines Naturally Aspirated 4150 Carb, 275/60 Drag Radials. Nothing Special, Out of the Box Trickflow 429/460 Head's, Decent Size Solid Roller, 10.6:1 Comp. C-4 Auto No Trans Brake, 8.8 with 3.90 Gears So I'm Not Hating on the Hemi. I think One of the Most Impressive Cars from that Era was the 70 Buick Stage 1 Powerplant, Those Cars weren't exactly that Light but they Freaking Moved Out. I been in a few Muscle Cars from that Era. 69 GTO with the Ram Air 3, 70 Chevelle with the 454, Not the LS6 but i believe it was a 390 H.P. Version, All of these were Basically Stock Engines THAT were Fresh, the 454 had a Cam Little Bigger than Stock. And Many Fords. One Mustang that Really impressed me was the 1971 Boss 351, and those Model Mustangs weren't Light Weight. But that Buick 455 Was a Beast. In Stock Form Buick said 510 Ft.Lbs. Torque. I Wouldn't doubt it was Much More, and i Think it was rated at 360 H.P. THAT too was a Lie to the insurance companies back then. Like i said i will Always Bleed Ford Blue, But Second Choice will Definitely be the Monster Torque of those Buick Engines.

[@DeanMk1]

According to one of the guys who worked on the Stage 1 project, the Buick 455 did make 360 hp.....@4600 rpm. It also made 372HP @5200 rpm. ;-)

[@robertsr.249]

@Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke I did own a 69 Mach 1 with the 351 Cleveland , bought it in 1971 , very nice car , very fast from red light to red light , But the one mustang I wish I could of owned belonged to a friend of mine , a 1969 Mach 1 with the 428 cobra jet , and it was a screamer , I know he don’t still have it ,but that car in today’s dollars is a retirement account

[@DeanMk1]

@@robertsr.249 I used to work for a guy who had a black '69 Mustang. Not Mach 1 and "only" a 351 Windsor, but it was a S-W-E-E-T ride and could pull hard when asked to. I've always wondered why I never hear of guys putting Boss 351 heads and cam on the later 400M motors. It's the Cleveland engine, just 1/2" extra stroke and all lo-po parts. Should be easy enough to replace with the "good stuff", but man, 50 extra cubes. Why would anyone turn their back on that?

[@milojanis4901]

@@DeanMk1 The 400M in stock form was a turd. However, you are right on; when it is built correctly, it's more of a beast than most beasts. Ask John Kaase!

[@DeanMk1]

@@milojanis4901 No more of a turd than any other American V8, as they existed in the later half of the 1970's. At the time, it held its own, in stock form, just fine.

[@adamcady9359]

ONCE AGAIN CHEVY RULES AND DODGE DROOLS 😎

[@GS455Stage1]

Vehicle weight, Horsepower, gearing, traction (slicks vs street tires) and distance travel (1/4) mile. To get a vehicle to travel the (1/4) mile in 11 seconds has to be extremely light, aerodynamic, gearing, but most of all high horsepower & high torque. NHRA pure stock class requires full chassis. To point out an important fact of power to weight-- Chrysler engines (426) and (440) are one of the heaviest engines to race so HP has to be extremely high to get into the 11 second category.

[@Shayne2517]

High Torque

[@Red_Sector_7]

@PureStockDrags Those are very impressive cars. I will say the owners deserve kudos for not having them sitting in a garage gathering dust, but instead out on the track running the wheels off.

[@erandy0240]

Exactly. Using them for their purpose

[@1gbayfisher]

I dont think a single car in these vids are stock. Can someone confirm? I highly doubt there is any car from that era that can trap 118-122.

[@70stunes71]

1gbayfisher agree completely

[@milojanis4901]

@@70stunes71 you are BOTH incorrect. The ZL1/L88/455 Buick/and 426 Hemi engines were ALL capable of this speed. It all depends on what you call stock. If your saying you can't run headers and stay stock, then I will agree with you.

[@chasefreedom5178]

Tire and Suspension, piston and rings. Machining as well as many other tech improvements have made 'em quicker. Sorry time stands still for no one.

[@Alexi7666]

Excellent camera/sound work! And you include the ET/trap speed, which a lot of knuckleheads leave out.

[@acemaster1001]

Im a Chevy guy, yes we play with valve lash. I run a Solid lifter car. The L/88 Vettes, and 427 ZL-1 camaros are making an honest 490-520hp at the fly wheel. You can use a horsepower calculator if you want, 11:65 @ 118mph, 3380LB car = 440 RWH Its not rocket science. Your a tipical side line Racer who likely runs slicks and headers and can barley break 12:20s in the 1/4 mile. These cars run 1.8 60' times usually. No bullshit

[@bradleblanc2336]

I run an LS& 454 in a 70 Monte, yes I play with valve lash, and from what I can decipher its an honest 550 HP motor

[@DeanMk1]

@@bradleblanc2336 The Dyno proves you correct. The way I understand it, the LS6 was the replacement for the L88/ZL-1, when the auto industry made the shift to larger displacement performance engines.

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

@@DeanMk1 It was once thought that an LS6 gained 50 horsepower with nothing more than Hooker big tube Super Competition headers, tighten the exhaust lash .006, intake .008, and staggered jetting, no vacuum advance with Sunoco 260 in the tank.

[@DeanMk1]

@@thegreenerthemeaner ...they were probably right.

[@bigdaddys73nova]

Couple of true classics

[@pwr27986]

A lot of butt hurt Slowpar fans here in the comment section.

[@SealofPerfection]

Yeah, I love whenever one loses it's "man, a Hemi is built for top end, it needs gears" and excuse after excuse. Well, I don't care what excuse you want, no Hemi built, stock, is going to beat an L88 Vette.

[@eddiebarnett2217]

@@SealofPerfection no stock street hemi is gonna beat a 70 lS6. I watched a 70 lS6 called "red alert" at Richmond dragstrip beat 5 hemis in a row. Cuda's, Roadrunner's, whatever mopar that had a hemi..

[@dakotase]

@@eddiebarnett2217 I see you're still full of pure bullshit.

[@samsonreynolds3728]

Pacfanweb the 68 hemi Dart will leave the L88 for dead

[@SealofPerfection]

@@samsonreynolds3728 It was a race car, not made by Chrysler. I would certainly hope a race car could beat a street car.

[@leswillingham544]

saw that one comin'!

[@kurtzimmerman1637]

Love all the old muscle cars! They are awesome! Want one.

[@Bigdog302V8]

both cars ran great,the Hemi was on par with a 12 second 1/4 but the L88 Vette surpised me with the 11 sec 1/4 mile.congrats on both machines there!

[@ratbastard1811]

you are crazy! i watched back in the day 10:56,10:74 ,10:88 and so much more from those old school vettes

[@WisdomVendor]

You are completely correct. I've yet to see any of these supposed "pure stock drags" vids that show an actual stock vehicle. Only a scant few classic muscle cars got into the 12's in a quarter. The among them were the Shelby Cobra w/427 engine, Corvette w/427 engine and Plymouth Roadrunner w/440 Six Pack. The first 2 I don't even consider to be 'muscle cars'. They are sports cars. A real muscle car has 4 seats.

[@chikechovis2499]

Swiss cheese pontiac catalina, lo23 hemi dodge dart, bo29 hemi barracuda, ro23 plymouth belvedere all those cars ran in the 12s or under the dart ran mid 10s in the 60s!

[@user-ge2qn6gp4o]

Somebody's butthurt.

[@andrewp1998]

hemi cuda 1970 ---13.10 stock,, so yah them cars are not stock

[@GS455Stage1]

Finally, it is also true that in 1967 the Plymouth Belvedere GTX Hemi powered vehicle did win the 1966 Spring Nationals, Winter Nationals, Summer Nationals, and World Championship in Top Stock Eliminator Class. How I know, I have the Popular Hot Rodding Magazine -August 1967 to prove it. Like I said earlier, this is no regular or even slightly driven street vehicle. The vehicle was named "King Kong" They don't call it King Kong for nothing. I am a GM man myself. The GTX is in the history book.

[@FreeeeBeer]

I don't know what you are smoking but nobody back in the day could come close to out running my 69 Charger RT Hemi with 4spd. It didn't matter what it was bigblock Chibby,Phord or Buack they all got their doors blown off...and no small block cars had a chance. Its just the way it was.

[@soxfunny98]

FreeeeBeer You tell it like it is. Im still running a 6bbl Runner and an RT/SE CHARGER. SEND ALOT OF CARS HOME LOSERS. NEXT TIME I SEE THEM......... NITROUS APPEARS LOL

[@Tusuperbis]

I seen my grandpa out run my uncle's 68 roadrunner 426 hemi 4spd with 4.10 gears all original. My grandpa had a 62 impala ss 409/425hp 4spd with 4.10 gears all original. My grandpa won best 2 out of 3 quarter mile passes right in front of our house! At the time I had a 86 mustang gt 5.0 with a 5spd and 3.55 gears and some bolt on mods and my uncle's 68 hemi roadrunner only beat me by a fender in the quarter mile.

[@victorvondoom2386]

1969 Z28 was faster in 1/4 than any hemi..esp a block of un aero dynamic charger...

[@dakotase]

@@victorvondoom2386 stilll having wet dreams it appears.

[@samsonreynolds3728]

66-69 street hemi’s were more aggressive than 70-72

[@frombeneaththegarage]

I guess I would only be feeding into the "excuses" here, but mine would be that the 'vette isn't actually a muscle car. No back seat. If I was to ignore that, then yea, weight distribution is gonna help big-time. The driver virtually sits on the rear axle with the motor mid-way in the car. Drag racers have always attempted to lighten their cars this way and that way so to act like weight isn't a heavy factor here or elsewhere is ignoring the obvious. Yea, I'm Mopar biased, but only slightly. Classic Gm's, FoMoCo's, Mopars, I dig them all. The reverence of the Hemi can't be disputed no matter if I liked them or not. Nor can a 427, 396, 428, 440, etc. This race, or any other Pure Stock Drags race with a 'Vette has a ton to do with weight distribution.

[@sterlingarcher8441]

He still lost..

[@kurtzimmerman1637]

L88 was fast.

[@gearyharlan7729]

Hahaha excuses...wheres your hemi now

[@Sherman62]

Yeah, the L-88 is not a drag car but a sports car, built for handling and top end. The fact that it is also a very capable drag car is a bonus. The chrome bumper C3s are also among the most beautiful cars ever built. You are spot on regarding weight distribution. Any nose heavy, truly stock (including tires) big block pony car is going to be hamstrung.

[@Tusuperbis]

Nickey, dana, and Gibb chevrolet, put l88 427 as well as other 427s in camaros, chevelles, and novas. I've never seen any at the factory stock drags though? I would say because they would technically be tuner cars? They sold new with those engines with a warranty from performance dealers so, I think they should be allowed in if they arent. One bad thing about that though. For about the top 10 places, there wouldn't be anything else but a chevrolet. I guess that wouldn't be fair?

[@robwastman4993]

Weight to horsepower ratio. The Vet has about a 500 Lb advantage.

[@acemaster1001]

The Street HEMI was a DOGG back in 1970. 440 Six Packs would wax them

[@victorvondoom2386]

440 is reason no hemi after 1969. 440 was just better.

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

I agree 100% The Street Hemi wasn't all that at all.

[@eddiebarnett2217]

And yet people give me Hell for saying that. I once saw a 340 wedge in a dart, mildly build, just blast a street hemi in the eighth and won by 2 lengths in the quarter. That same dart got beat by a 70 GTX or road runner, I can't remember the car but 440 six pack, by a length in the quarter. All i am trying to say is that with money a hemi has no end, without a ton of money a 340 dart can put one down..

[@burningblue1254]

The street hemi was a dog in '70? Get off the crack. Street hemis just need some finessing thats all. The carbs were lean from the factory and the distributor needs recurving. Once dialed in properly, the top end charge is incredible. Mostly it comes down to preparation and the combination. The Hemi ran a 12.12 but with a really great blueprint and balance, some nice polishing of the intake and heads, running a 2200 stall, running 2.5 inch exhaust etc all within the pure stock rules the hemi will run under the 11.5 allowable et rule. In regards to the 340 versus 440 - 6 and the hemi. Eighth mile is all about weight, gearing, and fast revving. My 340 would leave on a 440 or hemi big time in the 1/8. But sorry a well prepared 440-6 and especially the hemi, would easily run by me in the last 300 feet. The deep breathing and power at the big end is too much for a small block.

[@willthetrill4849]

That’s because lots of people can’t get an authentic Hemi running right

[@tubedude4859]

An independent rear suspension can sure put the power to the ground off the line

[@niagrasprings]

thanks to PSD for posting these really great videos

[@EvansBrosRacing]

i looked up several magazine tests and the lightest they showed for the hemi cuda was 3620 lbs and several showed it at 3900 lbs . i would have guessed 3500 ? but the vette would be lighter by 400 to 500 lbs , making a huge difference and may have even had wider tires ? not sure what they came with . both cars are amazing though

[@Wormser_mcfrazzleweiner]

@moparXdarren Dont be fooled into thinking that because these corvettes have fiberglass bodies they are light. Mine with a stock small block weighs in at 3480, without my 250 ass in it. A stock small block chevy is about 45 pounds lighter that a big block, and thats a bare block. Its possible that Corvette with a driver is 3700 pounds. if he is a 200+ guy. Not all that different than the Cuda.

[@richjd630]

@71powerwagon dodge guys can take when their mighty hemi gets beat....just take it and stop making excuses.

[@PureStockDrags]

@nuclearsharkattack Yeas, it is Bob K's and yes it is Stock according to our rules. There is a Factory Stock division at the FAST races that many Pure Stockers run in. The Cuda also ran at the PSMCDR this September. All cars on this channel are Stock, not F.A.S.T. but we thank them for giving us a great venue like US131 to run at.

[@PureStockDrags]

@JoeysFunFarm the Vette in this video wieghed in at 3429 and the Cuda at 3750 at this years PSMCDR. Thanks for all the interest in the event !!!

[@alzaidi7739]

The Vette forgot their trailer with the back seat. Again!

[@user-ge2qn6gp4o]

​@@alzaidi7739 Quit whining.

[@landoncarter6452]

@@user-ge2qn6gp4o Learn to recognize humor.

[@ELCORONEL187]

a super bee six pack has whooped both them cars buddy! just saying! they are both hell of some cars!

[@chasefreedom5178]

Did I miss that Super B? Where? Damn.

[@254967conwell]

the Vette in this video weighed in at 3429 and the Cuda at 3750 ..so there's your difference. Take out the back and passenger seat and spare tie and it might be a different race

[@Red_Sector_7]

@SirKowalski666 The problem here is you lack 1st hand information. You really do not know what you're talking about, and it shows. Quoting "stories" for others is just that -- storytelling. You sure must be gullible to believe everything you're told. Regardless of slicks, these cars NEVER ran in the 11s "off the showrrom floor." Even the biased magazines of the day never showed these cars running that quick in stock form on cheater slicks. Insults just show how little you know.

[@tbxtroll]

don't mess with a Corvette

[@douglassopa2544]

best of three would have been nice,,

[@Wormser_mcfrazzleweiner]

@jingq2 It depends on which 427, the Chevy L88 put out a little over 580, stock.

[@kennethrobinson11231]

What are you talking about. Camaro are not full frame. Corvette is bot not a Comaro.

[@Boredout454]

The thunderbolt was slow and heavy. It was built to compete against the Aluminum Max Wedge Mopars in 65, but Mopar had been racing them since 62 and Ford was way behind. By the time they got the new TB cars to the drivers the racing year was over and they where still too heavy by 200lbs. The Mopars the next year switched to a lighter body and started running the Hemi mainly and the Thunderbolt was canceled. They just really couldnt compete.

[@amarqzm5082]

Lol of course he old school corvette would smack any muscle car 😂

[@francismartin2427]

1968 426 Hemi Super Bee would get that L88 all day long.

[@amarqzm5082]

@@francismartin2427 nope corvettes a re much lighter and if we’re talking stock he’ll no

[@will7its]

@@francismartin2427 Even heavier than the cuda?

[@francismartin2427]

@@amarqzm5082 type in 1968 Hemi super bee vs L88 Corvette

[@francismartin2427]

@@will7its type in 1968 Hemi super bee vs L88 corvette

[@jrzy49]

Classic race. I wouldn't mind seeing the L88 race a ZL-1 Camaro. That would be interesting

[@Smokey-88]

Fuck with the best, lose like the rest.

[@mothertree]

lolol...(it`s a 427)

[@wayneshearon1575]

another hemi bitchslapped by a chevy

[@lauriesmythe5907]

yes the corvette won yeah Mopar no car i hardly doubt Mopar is the only muscle car get wrecked Mopar fans

[@samsonreynolds3728]

Laurie Smythe put a 68 hemi Dart against that Chevy lol

[@andrewp1998]

@@samsonreynolds3728 yes , you read my mind, or the 68 hemi cuda,, now we can see a lightweight car.

[@LORISSABOOBMAN]

He had the whole shot but lost grip the Cuda

[@centralnyguy37]

Sir with all due respect. You'd do yourself well if you said no more before you look anymore foolish. While it was common for people to tell war stories and fudge numbers based on their emotions back in the day. A Hemi Cuda was easily capable of high 11s with slicks ,open headers, fine tuning and the right person driving. These cars do not have higher than stock compression & rollers cams, they simply blueprinted them to death

[@acemaster1001]

this is a funny point about hemi's. Yes top fuel dragsters use a Hemi type combustion chamber. It works extremely well, hands down. That doesnt mean the whole engine combo in the late 60's and early 70's was the best. They had low compression, and a garbage camshaft. The L-88 and ZL-1 is a much more powerful package out of the box from factory. Street engine vs street engine. ZL-1 and L-88 chevys were king back in the day. And are in purestock drags today. Period.

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

until you add a better camshaft to the hemi.

[@JoeysFunFarm]

@bigblockhitchcock read purestocksdrags comment on mine u might be right on the 73 cause thats a standard vette but purestockdrags even said the vette only weighed 3429 and the cuda weighed 3750 but the racing vettes with no ac or p steering weighed 3091 with aluminum under parts and the cuda can range from 3400 to 4000 depending on trans rear end and engine and if its got ac and power steering if the cuda has a 8 3/4 rear with a833 with hemi it weighs at 4000 with out ac.i think were both right

[@bradleblanc2336]

A Cuda that weighs 4000 LBS, never heard of that? The big B bodies aren't even close to that

[@ericou812]

i bet theres ppl saying "why are they racing these classics" hey if you have the power under the hood....RACE IT!!!

[@billylowe9631]

20 L88 optioned Vetts in 1967 80 L88 optioned Vetts in 1968 116 L88 optioned Vetts in 1969 Depending on the year, a numbers matching L88 is worth from two to three million dollars (1967) to half a million dollars or more for a 1969. So I suspect the one in the video is a clone or at least has a replacement engine. L88 an awesome engine.

[@stevenllewellyn8906]

Billy Lowe my dad has a original L88 1969 corvette. Riverside Gold. Bought it new, 47,000 miles on it now.

[@milojanis4901]

I would think the 1967 L88 Vette would be the most valuable. All things equal, the 1967 Corvette is the probably worth more than any other model year. Add the fact that only 20 1967 Corvettes were built with the L88, and it's also the rarest L88 Corvette. I can't sew how the 1969 is worth twice as much, when over 5 times as many were built. This doesn't add up.......

[@5BobbyDavis]

Vette won! as far as I seen, he was slower.End of story

[@PBRStreetGangster]

A two seater fiberglass sports car that whipped a four seater all steal car. Not much of a race really!

[@milojanis4901]

Nobody forced the Mopar to race at the strip. Run whatcha bring, or don't run.....

[@toddbob55]

poor chryslers always lose

[@Youtubinshare]

Pick a favorite car, pick a favorite driver, watch and enjoy. Stop being so literal about the results. Just like at the old street races, there were surprises.

[@Wormser_mcfrazzleweiner]

@JoeysFunFarm With me in my car with the small block in it it was 3550. I will post a picture to you with it on the scales with with the big block in it if you would like. They are much heavier than your statement above.

[@emanusa1]

no one beats the L88 pure stock.

[@johnpearson4533]

You want to put your title up against a stock 427 Ford Shelby. Start filling out your pink slip

[@jamescheslic2686]

Got home from Vietnam with a stew of to much money. Bought a 71 Vette 454 425 horse . Working construction made great money and bought a 71 hemi vida. Both ran so we'll i couldn't tell the difference. Cars are only as fast as traction, shifting and guts to hold your shift until they max out. Then I fell in Love. Yes I sold them both. Ha ha. Kept the wife.

[@Red_Sector_7]

@SirKowalski666 And BTW --- a friend of mine bought a brand new Coronet R/T in 1968 with the 440 Magnum when he was in the Air Force in Texas. He still owns this car today, and has ran it many times over the years at the track. It is still stock and the best it ever ran regardless of traction was in the mid-high 13 range with av. gas in the tank. That is light-years from an "11 second" ET. Get some actual experience drag racing, then come back and have an intelligent discussion.

[@Red_Sector_7]

@SirKowalski666 That's a high-13 second car at best on slicks off the showroom floor, regardless of rear gear. You can toss out any # you like, but the facts are the facts.

[@chasefreedom5178]

You then deny the reality you just witnessed? You did just watch the race correct? The same race as I just watched? Well it seems both cars represented far better than you were capable. Possibly they are professionals. And hold time slips proving their bad ass rides did exactly what the video shows. No false reality, no unbelievability. Relax and enjoy!

[@Shayne2517]

Ok first off, that Corvette was not stock. And that engine was built no doubt to run high 11's.

[@victorvondoom2386]

L88.. is build from factory GM muscle parts. It's not even GM's best or most powerful engine than could be ordered.

[@SealofPerfection]

It is absolutely stock and even has exhaust manifolds. It's blueprinted and tuned. They were just that fast.

[@chasefreedom5178]

I feel your pain....Btw I love Mopars, Fords, Chevys, Pontiacs, Olds, Buick, AMC, you name it...A entire herd of some badass engineering! Learn to live with it....OK?

[@lancehurley9743]

L- 88 by a fuzz

[@will7its]

The corvette owner who should have bought a hemi powered land yacht??? Hint, they are both "compensating" for something...... 😘

[@rickhaile2190]

Bad video! Too far away. No times or m.p.h.. No description of the cars. Nothing! I want my 45 seconds back.

[@frankhartnett895]

Clearly the vette won I don’t know much about drag racing but 39 one hundreths of a second And a little less than a half a mile an hour sounds like a fairly competitive race to me

[@choward874]

yeah that hemi got spanked but man that thing moves for such a big car!

[@Lucille69caddy]

okcguy 427 FYI, the 'Cuda and Dart were the lightest cars Hemis were in.

[@davidbernardi3896]

Hemmies are no good for the street they load up with gas because you can't go fast enough to keep the plugs clean so if it's a true street car you got to run a single carburetor on a Hemi but give me a 440 or 383 any day

[@topenddean]

The last I heard Bob K's hemi was still running strong and had not been apart since it left the factory. It is a good running stock engine. Very low 12's where common for stock 426's. Back in the 70's a racer here in Phoenix who went by the name "Crow" ran a Burgundy 1968 Charger R/T 426, 4 speed. He installed a set of 4.88 gears in the Dana, a set of headers, and Cragar S/S wheels with some 9-10" slicks. He didn't have a tach so he shifted by feel and the car car ran consistant 12.30's

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

What is the #1 engine everyone wants to beat at the dragstrip? The one with the biggest and baddest reputation. In this instance, it happened, but not every time they both line up.

[@SealofPerfection]

Yeah, .4 quicker and faster, too? It happens every time they line up, at least these 2.

[@5BobbyDavis]

Factory stock BB Chevy or Chry.Hemi,Can Loose on any given day.

[@jllmll3862]

hi there, thoses 2 engines are somewhat for 2 diferent purposes by theirs power band. the extremely rare l-88 was an engine for racing with hight rpm torque and hp, but not realy not developed too max. mclaren used that kind of engine in can-am and dominated for years! too beat them it needed a turbo used by porshe. where was dodge? with the 426 hemi or the 440 six pack ? even ford dint tryed against even ferrari failed with their 6.9liter v12.

[@acemaster1001]

@curtknows101 . This is not fake i can asure you. I race in this class. L/88 Vettes and 69 427 Camaros are king. This particular Hemi Cuda is the fastest mopar at the event. It does very well. But it does not dominate. Its usually in the top 5 or 6.

[@crusher1944]

I'm 67 and had them all. My 69 hemi road runner blew off anything that was on the road. 4.10 GEARS AND NEW PLUGS EVERY OTHER DAY. My dad had a recap tire shop in NY and made a special soft compound cheater slick with 2 groves in the tire that was allowed on the road in NY at time 1960s TURNED MID 12S TO LOW 13 TEENS.

[@milojanis4901]

New plugs every other day......ROFLMFAO. Get REAL.......

[@thomascampbell5633]

@@milojanis4901 thanks. I thought about that after reading your response and yeah, total bs.

[@chadhosmer9357]

I would like to know the weight difference? That Cuda was right there though.

[@uuzoo]

I like the Cuda, but I had a feeling the vet was going to win. It's lighter.

[@doorkicker8507]

Wow people are so surprised the Hemi lost. Are you kidding me. Apparently you don’t know crap about muscle cars. It’s an L88 vette. That motor was producing almost 600 hp back then. Had aluminum heads also. And when people say Corvettes are lite compared to the Cuda. One is fiberglass and they are not really as lite as you think. Also the Cuda is not a full frame car. It is light compared to MOST muscle cars of the era.

[@SealofPerfection]

What's interesting is that the Vette actually weighs a bit more, not less. A stock 69 Vette was around 3250 with a small block. Big block added a couple hundred pounds. The Cuda, despite its size, was kind of hollow, and only weighed about 3400-ish. So at best, they were roughly even weight, and in reality, the Vette was likely a bit heavier. And still outran it.

[@GS455Stage1]

This post is for the late United States made Muscle cars of the 60s and early 70s NOT THE NEW GENERATION CARS OF TODAY!! This is not a forum for foreign vehicles at all or saying your 4 cylinder with NOS can do the 1/4 mile in 9.0 sec. You probably weren't born and your vehicle wasn't even thought of during this time in US Auto history. This is an aspirated Power / vehicle weight / class discussion.

[@JoeysFunFarm]

@bigblockhitchcock the vette weighs 3091 because of the 427 a standard is 2900 and the cuda weighs over 4000 and a standard is 3650 i know this cuz im at a auto tech for a mechanic and auto body and we just got done working a a 1970 corvette 454 that.weighed 3091 the vette was a light weight performance fiberglass car its the second lightest muscle car in the late and mid 60s the 1st lightest is the cobra at a weight of 2315 pounds with the 427,even the old aluminum clip front cars weighed more

[@JoeysFunFarm]

them motors had more horse they only rated it that for insurance,the l88 and hemi were actually both rated at 550 the hemi still had more torque due to the head design the only reason the Corvette won is because its all fiberglass and the cuda is still heavy steel

[@techmaven5900]

These races mean very little. The cars are supposedly stock but there are a lot of small tweaks that can be and are made to get these cars running quicker...Many others are NOT running as well as they should/could. I don't take much stock in these vids as a direct comparison between brands.

[@tbxtroll]

Hemi this .......Chevy power

[@lovemetalhatejuggalo]

i LOVE 'cudas but i kinda knew the corvette was going to win =P

[@Wormser_mcfrazzleweiner]

@JoeysFunFarm Corvettes are not as light as you think, go to my channle and ask me how I know ;)

[@chasefreedom5178]

Despite everyone seeing what I did. I am told I must believe I did not see it. If only this and only that. As a huge big 3 fan it is shameful reading many of these posts. Just watch the race. 2 great cars and accomplished drivers do what we all dream.

[@chasefreedom5178]

@hemihead honkeydonkey I love them all. Something about burnt rubber and race gas.....

[@d.c.rhodes66]

This kind of race is meaningless. We have no idea how the cars are prepared, how they are tuned or anything about them. I well tuned Hemi from back in the day should run in the 10's. On the street all bets are off. I've seem some damn fast Hemi's on the street and other ones that were dogs. Strictly because the owners had no idea what they were doing.

[@SealofPerfection]

The Vette is bone stock. Some of them were faster than this one, stock.

[@WisdomVendor]

You couldn't be more wrong, all it takes is a google search. Sorry that your wishes don't fit the facts. Mopar was ALWAYS ahead in the hp race. Are you aware that ALL top fuel dragsters (the absolute most powerful automotive racing engines making 7000-8000 hp) are hemi engines? ALL OF THEM !

[@SealofPerfection]

Those engines have nothing to do with the Chrysler Hemi today. And I have news for you: That 427 Vette has more power than the Hemi. The Vette is slightly heavier and still outran it by a decent margin.

[@BuRn1NgAnUs]

Then why was then L88 427, & LS6 454 more powerful?

[@alezgutierrez9146]

Cuda sucks Chevy Rules

[@loveisourweapon2010]

I like them both but that elephant sounds amazing.

[@TheMikeMeadows]

@bigblockhitchcock Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo it did not put out 580hp. Thats a gross exaggeration.

[@stevenmassey7586]

Another ventage Vette breaking 12 sec 1/4. 😁

[@TheMrmmkkpro]

Top dogs fighting it out!! I just recently found this channel and I'm lovin it. Great work. 👍👍🏁🏁

[@Red_Sector_7]

A stock Hemi 'Cuda with sticky tires was nowhere near the 11s "back in the day." The best they did off the showroom floor was mid-high 13s at 105-107 mph. On a sticky tire that would drop to the low-13s high-12s @ 107-108. That is with a *properly* tuned 426. They were never in the 11s on a sticky tire bone stock. The two cars featured in this vid are FAST class racers, with BIG cube engines, high compression (11.5:1+) and roller cams. The suspensions are also *very* loose to hook on bias plys.

[@GS455Stage1]

This GTX was a complete Mopar drag pack prepped car. From the engine (426 cu. in) static compression est. 13.5, special torque converter, transmission, rear end etc. The 2x4 barrel carburetor setup was tricked out. All these parts were special heavy duty. Not every Chrysler / Dodge / Plymouth owner could get their hands on these parts easily. There is more to reaching the 11 second (1/4) mile than just placing slicks on a car. If the car runs a low 12 sec w/o slicks then it is possible.

[@juansaladzar]

I remember this race I was there in 1970 & saw it live brah

[@Cash_McCoy]

@kennethrobinson11231 Wrong! Back in the day the fastest pure stock muscle cars were a 1970 LS6 Chevelle and a 1970 Hemi Challenger. Either one could run 13.1 right off the show room floor if the driver knew what he was doing. (Actualy the 1969 ZL1 Corvettes were faster but there were only two of them everbuilt) The 427s were not slouches but the LS6 and the Hemi were the ones to beat. Oh and yes, I was there too.

[@wreckanchor]

Amazing they are doing this on Old Bias Play street tires.

[@milojanis4901]

They are repop bias ply, with modern, sticky rubber.

[@choward874]

no surprise the Corvette won the Hemi Cuda was a tank badass car though

[@wlm2618]

Considering one weighs about 1000 lbs less

[@yankeephil1]

we'll never know because the kid I bought it off put a 440 crank in it (so he said) which also bit the dust when the piston skirt let go at about 7 grand. I was just beginning my mechanical career at the time and listened with great faith to the guy I bought it off. Wishful thinking of the youth. Actually the car was a 66 as I remember,it had a belvedere 2 body (shorter)with satellite trim and interior. They only made 500 of them to homoglat the car for racing in a stock class. I had moved to los angeles for two years and learned a great deal more about engine rebuilding but when I returned back to boston my father had given the car away because it was leaking fluids on the driveway and sitting high in the air with the exhaust on the ground. It was an embarasment to the neighborhood. A pity since the car had only 1200 miles on it in 72(only drag raced) and looked and even smelled brand new inside. I had taken it apart to inspect the damage and left off the heads as I gave up for lack of cash. Perhaps he had also installed the 12 to one pistons but they were chrysler slugs so I figuared they were original. Never buy a car run on nitromethane was the lesson I learned the hard way