1970 Dodge Challenger TA vs 1965 Corvette big block - Stock Drag Race

[@CarsAndZebras]

Happy holidays! Which car do you think will win this one???

[@oneeyedjackwya9742]

Challenger

[@gideoncampbell8335]

Wow that was a good matchup. Thanks a lot asshole and have a merry Christmas damnit!

[@danam0228]

I was rooting for the Challenger, but not disapponted in seeing such a sweet Corvette mop the floor

[@robbinbanx7439]

me things the '65 vette....power to weight advantage

[@jimmyBside]

Merry Christmas, C&Z. Thanks for all the great videos.....You are awesome!

[@worsel2113]

I love your facts, history, and old commercials.

[@kendallkeil6996]

Holy shit that Chevelle was fast. Especially on those tires.

[@donferensic7482]

Those 340 cars can really move! Hangin with the big dogs!!!

[@sometimesieatcake4156]

I like the premiere idea. That way people can guess ahead of time on who they think will win, and not cheat. Very cool!!!!!

[@sometimesieatcake4156]

And I’m going Corvette. L78 even with skinny tires should see 14 flat. The Challenger with the 3.55 gear might be 14.1-14.2

[@CarsAndZebras]

We’ll see if people go for it or not 😎

[@charliesierra6919]

Wow some beautiful examples of rolling art! Love the side exhaust on that bad ass Mopar too, beautiful car!

[@howabouthetruth2157]

Wow.........that Chevelle with the L89 in the bonus round/footage was flat hauling the mail.

[@dirkpittthegreat4559]

Got that right! Impressive on the SS...Rockin!

[@CarsAndZebras]

That car will have it’s own video in the future. It was specially restored for Pure Stock racing. Great car

[@howabouthetruth2157]

@@CarsAndZebras Evidently so! I was not expecting that out of that car, lol. He's definitely got everything set up right!!! Thanks.........and looking forward to seeing that video.

[@ronjones-6977]

@@CarsAndZebras They must have worked every nook and cranny of the rule book to pull that time out of their ass. NOTHING on the street back then ran in the elevens. That thing almost lifted the front tires.

[@Rat-yp5wm]

That Chevelle was Beast mode! I didn't think stock tires could hook up like that with the power that baby is running...whew!

[@markwhitton8230]

This race was easily unpredictable. 425 hp vs 290. And 456 gears vs 355 gears. A better race would be the 426 hemi with 425 hp and 456 gears. Same hp and same gears.

[@steves4639]

dang...that chevelle tho. that was crazy

[@guffinator70]

"Pure stock" they called it. I bet that's a rather loose term.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Actually it’s the same term that has been used for that class since the NHRA coined it in the early 60s. Go to the PSMCDR website and read the rules.

[@genefortney9133]

Another great video a friend of mine had that version of Vette. Thanks for sharing, all the best for the holidays!! Let’s hope that 2021 is a great year that we remember for all the best reasons!!

[@markchapmon8670]

Always great to see a stock appearing muscle car race! Thanks

[@kfc1689]

I want to take this time to remind you all that it is the holiday season, so let’s do the right thing… And all feast on some of my delicious Kentucky Fried Chicken.

[@CarsAndZebras]

KFC is always what I consider to be the most important thing around the holidays 🐓

[@danmyers9372]

A fried chicken troll!

[@TheDatadrew]

Thanks to you, that's why the Challenger weights 4,200 lbs with driver

[@MrTheHillfolk]

NOM NOM NOM BISHES I just ate a whole bucket. Burp. My compliments to the chef.

[@rusty-times]

WTF?

[@edwinfeldman8231]

NO! Thank you,...for the content!. Damn, that vette took the challenger to "gapplebee's"! Didn't expect the mopar to get out that far on the vette with those 4:56 gears, damn!

[@CarsAndZebras]

The Challenger was great off the line, just hard to hold on the whole time. I’m sure if the owner took advantage of a few Pure Stock/Factory Stock mods it could easily see 13s, but it’s nice to see one that hasn’t been messed with.

[@maxkarahalios5445]

I am a great lover of mopar, however I think this one belongs to the vette. What ever happens though, this video is gonna be lit!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Both very cool cars! 👍

[@andrewp1998]

that 340 is quick off the line

[@rogerlairamore207]

The TA challenger 340 would take that 65 vette at a 40 mph tromp

[@boldrbangr9834]

This was a fun race series, but that 396 Chevelle was killing it 😜

[@ted101975]

Thanks for a great year videos. I look forward to them.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks for watching!

[@therewhatgoes8038]

I’m taking that Corvette and I will collect my winnings at 5:01pm sharp tomorrow.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Confidence 👍

[@mattewromine56]

Chevy guy through and through but I love old mopars keep up the badass vids

[@kennycamaro2361]

Careful boy, I’ll arrest you for sassing a law officer!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Could you imagine a commercial like that now?

[@63stratoman]

Buford T. Justice a few years before “Smokey and the Bandit?”

[@kennycamaro2361]

@@CarsAndZebras now. Not now days. The snowflakes would melt!

[@maliburallye350]

The blue Chevelle 69 SS 396 L89 is super!!!!☝🏻

[@portalbucket5365]

That t/a gets the him at the start but that 425 hp just moves that corvette

[@CarsAndZebras]

The Corvette has crazy power, but with tires that skinny it’s tough to actually use it off the line

[@Dayandcounting]

The next year featured they 427 initially rated at 450hp lowered to mid year to 425, Car and Driver ran 12.8@112 when they tested it too bad for Chevy the feather weight AC Cobra with a 427 dropped the mic with a 12.2@118.

[@hughbo52]

Love the Chevelle, I put my '70 in the ditch and am still crying. Nice post !

[@chrislopez1918]

Sweet video mr , happy holidays buddy ❄️⛄🧑‍🎄👋

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks for watching! 👍

[@wreckanchor]

My uncle got a 1965 Vette 396 / 425 brand new in 65 for a graduation present at 18 years old. He used to race it at Aquasco drag strip in Maryland and he was king of the streets around Ft. Washington Maryland in the late 60's.

[@20round6]

Thank you for another great video...Love your cometary !

[@matiacu3047]

Awsome vídeo as always CnZ!!!!!!!! You re awsome!

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@robertrobinson1111]

Another great video keep them coming 👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks for watching!

[@robertrobinson1111]

@@CarsAndZebras You don't have to worry about that I love your work how you make them funny as hell but with good information about the cars 🚗

[@AMCmachine]

Just saw a new Challenger T/A sitting at a Chrysler dealership last weekend in the exact same color scheme of F8 Green and black. Could have been this E-body's grandson. : )

[@CarsAndZebras]

who is the mom..........😏

[@onenikkione]

@@CarsAndZebras FIAT

[@josephmartinez8803]

Well now, I see where they got the idea for Sheriff Buford!

[@LifeofnotBrian]

My two alltime dream cars going head to head! Best christmas gift ever!!! 🤩🤩🤩

[@charlesdalton985]

Merry Christmas, thank you, and stay safe 👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

😏

[@policeofficer94]

HOLY CRAP! Jackie Gleason stole that cops gig!!

[@metalmopars]

Ooompf.

[@aznivs8943]

Merry Christmas.....!!

[@louiskats5116]

Goodday C & Z, Great show, abit late to the party, 9 am Tuesday morning here in Melbourne Australia. Loading Semi's, having morning smoko. Great idea, anyway you stay safe & have a Happy & Safe Christmas. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

[@CarsAndZebras]

You too! 👍

[@mattv8919]

more info on 11.77 chevelle please

[@V8guy83]

Oh my god, that Chevelle in the bonus round!

[@CarsAndZebras]

It ran 11.505 ET at Pure Stock this year..... under 11.50 and you get disqualified.

[@howabouthetruth2157]

Wow, that Chevelle was blazing quick. You also mentioned that it won that class on this day. I sure would like to know exactly what was done to that engine to make it so incredibly fast. ???????

[@jayschmahl9206]

Great race and two cool car's, but as the proud owner of two Challenger's, one an '09 RT and the other a '71 Challenger 340 convertible, I'll take the Challenger. I love Mopar's!

[@bobisrighturwrong]

All I want for Christmas is ....... oh who am I kidding? I can't even afford the insurance for either of these.

[@davidmcallaster7085]

That Challenger's Paint... Damn its sexy

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍👍👍

[@jeremymcnicol9585]

Another excellent video

[@jeffcuevas5918]

I'm a Mopar man thru and thru but that corvette really made my pants TIGHT!

[@nachos_70firebird66]

Cars and Zebras we need more videos of your Chevelle

[@CarsAndZebras]

Maybe someday. I did a complete restoration over the summer. Probably going to dyno tune in the spring.

[@nachos_70firebird66]

@@CarsAndZebras I've seen it. Like review's, Point of View Driving, R&R part's.

[@ryanthompsonthompson820]

What was that Chevelle on?

[@trashbandit2449]

I heard heroin makes you hyper like that, guessing that's what it was on

[@CarsAndZebras]

Pretty much every approved “Pure Stock” mod allowed. The car was specifically chosen and built for Pure Stock. Interesting story and someday it’ll have it’s own video.

[@steverussell6642]

@@CarsAndZebras sweet

[@kevinmcmillin3037]

The owner of the big block vette needs to meet the guy that tunes the blue chevy.

[@scarbourgeoisie]

A $42K '65 Convertible with a 425HP big block and a stick with factory side pipes and knock off wheels? I'll take two.

[@peteloomis8456]

Those leg burners sound nice !

[@timgroleau1612]

Great job. Your present is in the mail.

[@plymouthdie-castreplicas]

Great battles, brother. Merry Christmas!

[@therobert9521]

I'm just curious how a 396 Chevelle runs 11.77 and a 396 Corvette runs 14's? I understand these aren't 100% stock cars, but that's a heck of a difference.

[@worsel2113]

As mentioned in the lead-in, if the corvette could get traction off the line, I bet times would drop significantly.

[@jonnybrotten1290]

Great video, I have the Plymouth version of the T/A , the AAR CUDA and it definitely has more than 290 hp.

[@therealhonestabe7839]

People need to learn to read the video description box

[@CarsAndZebras]

If you can convince them to do that I will forever be in your debt

[@rusty-times]

It's a tough call. Have to go with the "65" Stingray tho.

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@SteveNewbill]

I actually expected more from the Vette, with regards to ET. And how the heck did that Chevelle run 11.7?

[@williemoon7522]

it most likely was a F.A.S.T car ... Factory Appearing Stock Tire .. they can do anything they want to the engine as long as the outside looks stock .. some have upwards of 800 hp ..

[@trashbandit2449]

@@williemoon7522 he says it's part of the pure stock event though

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@williemoon7522 It’s not a FAST car. That Chevelle has run in Pure Stock for years and is very well documented.

[@williemoon7522]

@@CarsAndZebras i stand corrected .. its` just plain FAST ... HA !!

[@Dayandcounting]

@@CarsAndZebras That is true but they nearly always are making significantly more HP than any showroom stock car or even a magazine test ringers. No factory L89 396 is running mid 11's even slicks, they only make about 275whp stock.

[@detroitghost7916]

Having owned a 65 Vette with a 327/350HP engine- the car is under-tired. Needs way more rubber in the back. Owned a 66 Chevelle with 396/375 and that car was an absolute beast. Both cars were astoundingly fun to drive (especially on Woodward back in the day)

[@CJColvin]

Those are some two good looking muscle cars.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Very good 😎

[@CJColvin]

@@CarsAndZebras Which one is you're favorite.

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@CJColvin No favorites for me. I actually like the ‘65 Corvette coupe with a 396 more than the split window ‘63, but that Challenger would be a very fun daily driver.

[@CJColvin]

@@CarsAndZebras Sounds awesome brother.

[@fernandoopoka8269]

I love this channel so much! but as a Dodge fan i need to say... this events need more HEMI, (Challenger/Charger) i know... is difficult to find those cars... Greetings from Argentina

[@Stucifer]

I'll bet on the Challenger T/A. It'll be a good one, but I've not seen any muscle cars more efficient than the 340 powered Mopars.

[@nachos_70firebird66]

My uncle had two 1970 Dodge Challenger's. Regrets it everyday that he sold both of them

[@louiskats5116]

Goodday C & Z, I figured it out, I got caught up in the live chat room . Anyway 2 beautiful muscle cars for sure. Now can someone out there explain to me what is the difference between a 1965 ( L78 ) @ 425 hp. 1966 ( L78 ) @ 375 hp. In all my research there is so little info what Chevrolet did to derate in by 50 hp, that is more than a 10% decrease. My favorite Impala is a 1965 L78 ( 425 ) hp SS , 4 speed. Have you got an 1965 L78 Impala's in your treasure trove. Not a big Corvette lover but can't go pass a 1965 L78, not many of them come up for auction. There was a run of them recently at Mecum & they pulled good money. All the best for Xmas & keep those great, amazing video's coming. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

[@deebo47]

+This may be a tough one in the FAST lane but I'll take the 4.56 big block over the 3.55 small block. But it may still be a close one. Go Mopar!

[@CarsAndZebras]

I just wish it would have been a cooler day. I know that Corvette can run 13s fairly easily, but I’d be curious to see what the Challenger can really do.

[@deebo47]

​@@CarsAndZebras---Agree, With some tires and cooler temps that Vette would very easily run in the 13's. That "little" 340 put up a good fight!

[@paulherring4230]

340 big block killer, dad had a 340 swinger thst car ran, Merry Christmas to all the gear heads

[@tommykelley3948]

Dodge had the best car commercials in a 60’s & 70’s‼️

[@thephantomzoneboxing]

you super booma?

[@danam0228]

You never did anything for me ;-) The Challenger vs. Chevelle sure was a bloodbath. Would like to see Duster 340 vs. that Corvette. Will look to see if you have a video featuring that matchup

[@donaldhollums3278]

The cop from the Dodge Challenger commercial should be investigating that '69 Chevelle SS. "Hey Boy, just how "pure stock" is this race car, Boy?"

[@georgehgordy1690]

The Corvette commercial guy is Pernell Roberts from the western series Bonanza.. 1965 was the year he decided to leave Bonanza because he was afraid of being typecast in westerns... Lol.. The cop in the Dodge commercial is a little too cartoonish and adds a bit of cheese factor to it ( It's a race car for the street, we get it.. Hence the name R/T ) Because of the Barney Fife factor I can't say it's the coolest car commercial I've ever seen... Pernell Elven Roberts Jr. May 18, 1928; ... Died: January 24, 2010 (aged 81)

[@danmyers9372]

Hard to say without more info, specifically on the Corvette. Which big block, there were a lot of different engine options available. 4 speed or powerglide auto?

[@therealhonestabe7839]

There was only 1 big block in ‘65 and only 1 transmission available with that engine. Read the video description box

[@danmyers9372]

@@therealhonestabe7839 - Thanks, wasn’t aware there’s was more info in the description. I thought the ‘Vette could be ordered with multiple 427’s.

[@steverussell6642]

Good one bro 👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks for watching!

[@63MacGuy]

Great video. Thanks

[@timmotel5804]

9/2024: Good Day. I owned a 1970 Challenger RT/SE 440 automatic with AC. One of several 440's that I have owned. Great Cars. Vette= Great. Thanks & Best Regards

[@AMCmachine]

There were rumors that the Challenger T/A was slated to be offered for 1971 also. There were photos of a concept/prototype from Mopar (recall seeing the old road-test pic in a muscle car magazine back when) and some witnesses vow that they saw a few '71 T/As sitting at dealerships. There's no evidence that Dodge ever made a '71 T/A; maybe a dealer fitted a few R/Ts with T/A hoods for some local or regional dealer-special package, or maybe people just didn't see what they thought they did. Interesting urban legend anyway.

[@CarsAndZebras]

that’s true, it was planned but only with a 4 bbl carb. you can even find some original advertising for it, but obviously it was never built.

[@briandungan515]

As a Vette and Mopar owner this is yuletide overload.

[@CarsAndZebras]

a Christmas miracle

[@davidbattaglia2336]

I have a great respect for old school Mopar because of this channel. But the real question is, how much flatulence will there be?

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Hopefully all of it.

[@imfree8500]

Imagine what the 440 6 packs was dong to the competition

[@williehill47]

Pistol grip shifter. Hells yeah

[@jerrycraig6522]

Two AWESOME cars!!!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Very awesome 😎

[@SCfanIam100]

That Challenger sure was slow for a 340 6 pack. He needs a tuneup or something.

[@kramnull8962]

Chevy Chase saw his $600 stimulus...

[@donyenko10]

Le voy al Challenger porque Mopar or no car 😍😍😍 aunque también me encanta el Corvette ❤️❤️❤️

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@pablocespedes9585]

From 65 to 70 the Vettes were wild!

[@HarryPotter-no4lc]

Hype crew LET’S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@CarsAndZebras]

🎉

[@mynameis9057]

Ouch,my Mopar stocking got shit instead of coal this Xmas! I thought that 440 Challenger would've redeemed the penta star but alas,Santa stirred my milk with his wang :( merry Christmas anyway! Thanks again!

[@snoopyfix2]

That Challenger gets off the line. That torque.

[@briansd2772]

Ok I'll say it. "Uncle". I'm done picking MoPars to win other than that '71 Demon a few weeks ago.

[@CarsAndZebras]

That Demon is nasty

[@briansd2772]

@@CarsAndZebras And has a great driver.

[@paintslinger16]

Picking vette haven’t watched yet, did you see the awesome Black Ghost 70 challenger video?

[@dieselmoser]

Corvette

[@akdoc2003]

I'm used to that 340 winning every race. I guess we were spoiled.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Just depends on what Pure Stock mods they use. This one really is stock. But yeah, a few approved changes and they run like crazy.

[@akdoc2003]

@@CarsAndZebras It always comes down to cubic dollars.

[@donferensic7482]

@@akdoc2003 LOL!!! You are correct on that!

[@badgerbait8351]

How does a 396 Chevelle destroys the 500 lb-lighter 396 vette's time like that?! I'm always in the corner of the small block anything, but if the vette had it together, the Challenger wouldn't have even been in the same league, IMHO!

[@jeremymcnicol9585]

But is the bass boat 500 lighter????

[@badgerbait8351]

@@jeremymcnicol9585 Bass boat: Fiberglass vette? I believe so! CandZ said the 396 plastic car weighed 3200+, and I believe the BB chevelles are close to 3800?! May be wrong on this!

[@marcustvchannel5885]

Beautiful

[@geraldlafleur7776]

Time to pull out the 340 duster, sit down Challenger TA

[@trebornoslo1951]

Raced a 340 Duster with my 70 Nova SS 4sp 396 (402) 375 hp back in 72. Spanked it bad. I was worried because of all the hype about the 340 6pack version back then but was not impressed afterwards. I was in the 13's and he was way behind at the finish.

[@geraldlafleur7776]

The 340 dusters that run in this class usually run in the low 13's due to carefull preparation. ( at least the ones Cars and Zebras has shown)

[@alberthilliger4892]

I can't wait for the potty humor sound effects. Dude is so funny.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Here for the flatulence, as usual it's great.

[@CrazyPetez]

I’m basically a Ford guy, but I also own Corvettes, so I always love to see Corvettes win.

[@josepzzz7760]

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! WHICH CHEVELLE IS THAT??????????????

[@02WIFE]

That heat was a killer

[@lawrenceparker1523]

Adam Cartwright, the sophisticated cowboy.

[@jerrycraig6522]

What a sweet vette!!!

[@dirkpittthegreat4559]

Waiting 😊

[@CarsAndZebras]

17 hours to go! 👍

[@dirkpittthegreat4559]

Great vids...the SS race was impressive. Was impressed by the corvette even tho it always got off the line slow. C7 owner here.

[@watchthetriple8224]

I was disappointed we weren’t told which direction the wind was coming from. I think the results would have been way different for the any car in the left lane.

[@stevecrist4902]

The Corvette never seemed to get off the line against both opponents considering the 4.56 gear.

[@andrewp1998]

The 340 six pack kills it in the 1/8 mile, those 340s are tough to beat up to 45-60 mph but the vette with the 396 takes over as expected