I'm learning from the Care Takers all the time, and I find that to be fun :-) Happy to read you enjoy the looks of this car.
@jeremythompson98956 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Buick....I'm a Mopar man but I love all American muscle cars. Never was a big Chevy fan but I love buick-olds-pontiac. 64 GTO my all time favorite GM muscle car because that was the catalyst that ignited the muscle car era
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
Glad to read you enjoy the looks of this Buick :-)
@josephromano68255 жыл бұрын
Awesome car! Sounds great! Another great car story Lou!
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joseph Romano, Glad you enjoy this car and story :-) Lou
@majorpayne52897 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Lou! Thanks for posting these awesome, better than new, vintage cars for us guys behind the keyboards to see once again :-) Absolutely love the older ones! Please give us more! Love for you to see & film my Dads (off frame restoration, by himself) 1963 Oldsmobile Star-Fire Convertible 394H.O.- 11.5:1 comp (factory ultra high compression) - it has 6 or 7 ashtrays! Lol! Thx again Lou!!! Great job✌️
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure Major Payne, I'm glad you think this one is "beautiful" :-) You're Dad sounds like he has a cool car for sure. You're welcome, Lou
@blairwilliamson55544 жыл бұрын
Sweet!! I love most all of the Buicks that you have showcased, Lou.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Blair, Happy to read this one is "Sweet!!" :-) Glad to read you're enjoying the Buicks, Lou
@RaiderX9482 жыл бұрын
It's great when a young kid sees a car then years later is able to own one like it. America!
@loucostabile2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@wiiambarnarx84852 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite muscle cars!
@loucostabile2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wiiam, Happy to read this is a favorite of yours :-) Lou
@maxredman10155 жыл бұрын
Another Great Car Lou! I have seen the through the bumper exhaust before on 1950's cars, I believe the Manufacturers got away from them because of massive corrosion problems. Great look just the same. Thanks for all your work and sharing these Interesting and Unique Vintage Cars
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, My pleasure sharing with you :-) Hope you Subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@Corsairforu5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car, hadn't heard of the exhaust like that and I'm glad you pointed out the seat belt warning thing on dash I was wondering what it was. I'm a Pontiac man but respect all cars especially like GS Stage 1 & W30 442
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi Corsaidforu, Glad to read you enjoy the looks of this car, and like reading the details you enjoy, Lou
@jeremythompson91224 жыл бұрын
I'm a Mopar man but I love all the muscle cars of that era no matter what brand. Pontiac was always my favorite brand other than Dodge and Plymouth. Pontiac made a lot of really nice looking cars and built awesome high performance engines...the 389/421 HO, 389/421 Super Duty, 400/428 HO, 350 HO, 400 Ram Air II,III, and IV, and the 455 HO and 455 Super Duty. There's a reason that Pontiac was known as GM's Performance Division. If GM brass wasn't always restricting Pontiac on how fast they could build their cars then they would've definitely built something that could beat an L88 Vette or ZL-1 Camaro. GM always favored Chevrolet and tried their best to make sure the Corvette was the top dog except for a few instances like the 73-74 SD455 Trans Am's and the 80's Turbo Buick's which were both definitely faster than any Vette was in their respective era's
@johnmaccoy43247 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of that v8.
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi John Maccoy, Glad you enjoyed the sound :-) Me too, Lou
@jeremythompson91224 жыл бұрын
The 1970 and earlier ones sounded even better with high compression and without all the smog equipment. But this one has an awesome sound too
@davidmurawski59857 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interview and posting Lou.
@irishpat647 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Car David.Cheers!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Glad you enjoyed the video :-) You're welcome, and it's my pleasure, Lou
@rightlanehog31517 жыл бұрын
My car was made 33 years later in the same Fremont factory.
@OldNewSweetRides7 жыл бұрын
Great luxury-sport-ish Buick in this immense paint colour! The engine sounds like my family's GMC 1971 pickup truck V8 Engine! Ok, time for the fact! During 1971 and 1972, the GSX package became an option that was available on any Gran Sport. Production dropped in 1971 to only 124, and again to 44 in 1972. These numbers include the available 350-4 bbl option, the standard 455, and the Stage 1 engines. Many GSXs survive to this day and can be seen at the Buick Gran Sport Nationals held annually in Bowling Green, KY (kentucky) in the middle of May along with many other examples of '60s, '70s and '80s Buick performance models, John.
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi John Roberts, Thank you for sharing your knowledge and adding the story, Lou
@jeremythompson98956 жыл бұрын
Must be a pretty small show because Buick didn't produce very many high performance cars in it's entire history. Although I do love the muscle cars they did produce, especially the 1970 GSX Stage 1 455. That is one bad ass machine. And the 80s grand national was actually the fastest American production car for the whole decade. That's not saying all that much because from 1975 until the late 80s was the absolute worst time period for American cars in the entire history of cars. American automakers we're trying to make high performance cars but between the technology of that time and the federal emissions regulations it didn't work very well
@scottteams33617 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous Buick Stage1. Great video. I love to hear peoples stories about the car they have dreamed of and finally realized that dream. Again great video Lou! Love seeing them in my suggested video feed. Thank you Lou!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott Teams, Glad you enjoyed the looks of this one :-) I like to hear when people achieve there "dream car" too. You're welcome, Lou
@604744 жыл бұрын
Had a 72 Buick Skylark looked just like this except for the engine and exhaust. 💕💕💕💕 I loved, loved that Buick and that sound!!
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Travis, Happy to read this car brings back memories of your car :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing. Hope you see many cars on this Channel you enjoy! Please Subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@johnwagner45593 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lou! Gonna go cry now... I miss mine. Back when I had mine, I found an N25 bumper, back in the 80s, cheap parts..I paid $200 for it. Another $50 for the tips..Such a cool option! This is such a gorgeous example! You just don't see Sexier body lines!
@loucostabile3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, High praise for the design of this car :-) You're welcome, Lou
@fredanddebramacdonald24456 жыл бұрын
Awesome Buick! Thanks Lou. Stage 1 cars were hard to beat. I need an engine like that in my Electra!
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy this "Awesome" Buick. You're welcome :-)
@seather8633 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Stage 1.
@loucostabile3 жыл бұрын
Hi Seather, Happy to read you appreciate the looks of this car :-) Thank you for viewing, sharing and I believe you're going to see many more cars on this Channel you'll enjoy. Hope you Subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@seather8633 жыл бұрын
@@loucostabile You got it Lou!
@mikejames-drummerreginacan13863 жыл бұрын
Very sharp car.....triple white, who would've thought.
@loucostabile3 жыл бұрын
Clean & mean :-)
@JeffKing3107 жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds good. Classic GM muscle sound !
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff King, Glad you enjoyed the sound of this one :-) Lou
@gerardvinet84485 жыл бұрын
At 4200$ , what a gold mine this person has .Was Buick the only exhaust bumper option in existance?
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi Gerard Vinet, In the 70's this is the only one I remember. Back in the 50's there were several cars, the early Corvette, the 57 T Bird, and s few others, Lou
@davidterry85845 жыл бұрын
Love this Lou thanks
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Glad you're along for the ride.
@ilirllukaci53452 жыл бұрын
The 1972 GS was as described to me the family car when I was a very young child.
@loucostabile2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ilir Llukaci, Thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy. Please subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@ilirllukaci53452 жыл бұрын
@@loucostabile don't know that much about classic muscle cars. I remember distinctly though dad passing on any gas stations that sold only unleaded, even if in the middle of the night on a lonely stretch of highway. Can I construe from this that it was a 455, sin6 it was apparently a 1972 GS?
@AMCmachine7 жыл бұрын
Cool exhaust option. A few '50s models had bumper exhausts as well.
@jeremythompson91225 жыл бұрын
The 57 DeSoto Adventurer had exhausts that went thru the bumper
@kainsel4 жыл бұрын
65 Olds Starfire had exhausts though the side of the bumper
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi AMCmachine, Thanks for sharing the details you see, Lou
@FrankieKuntheEtFNFaMG5K9Fan2K14 жыл бұрын
Best Buick Ever👍
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
High praise :-)
@Bricklinsv19707 жыл бұрын
Really sweet car! Sounded like its running perfect too!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Bricklinsv1970, Glad you enjoyed this one and think it's "sweet" :-) Happy you enjoyed the sound too, Lou
@oclint19684 жыл бұрын
Super nice, super cool, super sounding and super fast GS Stage I, Dave!
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Clint VanZandt, Happy to read you appreciate this Super x 4 car :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing. Lou
@oclint19684 жыл бұрын
@@loucostabile I have to say, I am somewhat enviable, because I'm a Ford guy. So, knowing that this GS Stage I, and earlier model Stage I's, can smoke my favorite 69 and 70 mustangs brings out a certain amount of jealousy! But I'm a car guy and I think these GS's have a leg up on my Stang's. So, tell me Lou, who came out ahead at the quarter-mile dragstrip or just a stop light with stock, just off the lot Stage I's and Mach 1 Mustangs
@D.Anderson7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Buick and presentation Lou👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi D. Anderson, Glad you enjoyed this one :-) Hope you see many more cars on the Channel you'll enjoy, Lu
@rjbeaubien7 жыл бұрын
Saw that car at MCACN! I have to agree with the owner the N25 through bumper exhaust tips got my attention as a kid also. Love the triple white combo. Awesome car and nice car story as always Lou!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi rjbeaubien, Glad you were able to see this one at the show. Thank you for the kind encouraging words, and if you see me at a show come by and say hello, Lou
@jameswilson3134 жыл бұрын
The dash panel looks brand new!
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, You're right, this car looks great :-) Lou
@TheGunfighter45acp7 жыл бұрын
I never knew about that exhaust option either, but boy it does look & sound great! Thanks for sharing this big & bad Buick, Lou!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi TheGunfighter45acp, I'm learning all the time. I think that is such a fun part of meeting and sharing knowledge from the Care Takers with you, Lou
@fireredgs6 жыл бұрын
Option N25 bumper exhaust. Available on all 71 and 72 GS models.
@micaelcaruso64895 жыл бұрын
👍🏻That’s a Beautiful car. I have a 1969 convertible 400 GS stage 1 with factory air and power windows. The car is signal red with a white convertible top and white interior. Thank you for this video
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi Micael Caruso, Happy to read you enjoy the looks of this car :-) Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy, and you're welcome, Lou
@jayyoung25864 жыл бұрын
The blacked out grille & the blacked out headlight bezel was only on the '72 GS. I had a '72 GS 350 in Burnished Copper with that same white interior and the notchback seat. If I had ordered a 455 or the automatic on the floor my insurance would have been unaffordable. Mine did not have the seat belt warning on the top of the dash, but may have been because mine was a very early '72. I just missed the order deadline for a '71 GS so mine was ordered in June and the very first one at my dealership in September.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, Thank you for viewing and sharing your knowledge. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy. Please subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@davidterry85845 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lou keep them coming 👍
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi David Terry, You're welcome, and stay tuned :-) Lou
@JeffBolen7 жыл бұрын
Nice car. I had a 1970 Buick Skylark I bought in 1971. It had a 4 barrel 350 and it screamed. I always wanted a stage 1. My Dad bought one of the first Gran Sports in 1965. It had a Y block 401. It really screamed. 0-60 in 6 flat.
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff Bolen, Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and adding to the story, Lou
@PdxGxs5 жыл бұрын
Hard to be in better condition than this one.
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Looks showroom new.
@steviedee717 жыл бұрын
One of the bad ass cars of all time just gorgeous!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Steviedee 73, Glad you enjoyed the looks of this one :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing, Lou
@stephenmerck59316 жыл бұрын
Talk about a diamond in the rough.😱
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy this one :-)
@stephenmerck59316 жыл бұрын
@@loucostabile Oh i'm a huge fan of your channel Lou.Keep em coming my friend.👍👍
@youdontsay21814 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Happy to read you appreciate this car :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing.
@Tibb916 жыл бұрын
I'm hooked on your videos, Lou! I'm gonna take my time and watch all the ones I'm interested in (basically any car before 1973)!
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tibb91, Glad you're enjoying the Channel :-) Thank you for viewing, and feel free to share the Channel with your car friends too. Happy you're along for the ride, Lou
@davidh49693 жыл бұрын
😂 love the picture of America’s special needs President. Like a deer in the headlights 😂
@steffyhobmann50377 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car! Spotless!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Steffy Hobmann, Well said :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing, Lou
@musclecarfan74 Жыл бұрын
The through the bumper exhaust also on Oldsmobiles, helped the bumper rust thanks to exhaust condensation.
@loucostabile Жыл бұрын
Hi musclecarfan74, Thanks for viewing and sharing, Lou
@melodicdreamer727 жыл бұрын
You can't forget that car has 270 horses with 390 foot-lb of torque in such a clean package. If nothing else, with that amount of torque in a low revving engine like that you could connect the transmission to that old oak tree and twist it out by the roots at idle. Thanks to Lou and the owner for sharing!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi melodicdreamer72, "connect the transmission to that old oak tree and twist it out by the roots at idle" WONDERFUL :-) Thank you for sharing, and regarding me sharing, you're welcome, Lou
@vmat10006 жыл бұрын
Car is awesome. Reminds me of Jimi's Woodstock Stratocaster :)
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
High praise :-)
@irishpat647 жыл бұрын
Thx Lou!!!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi irishpat64, My pleasure and you're welcome, Lou
@adape0884frank6 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome car that I would love to own one day to.
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
HI Paco Aldape, Glad to read you enjoy this car :-) Hope you're behind the wheel of yours soon, Lou
@fleetwin17 жыл бұрын
Another amazing Buick! Loving the all white with the black headliner/dash contrast. The big Buick engines were sleepers, no one expected such amazing power and performance from a Buick. You are right, I would have assumed that that thru bumper exhaust was some sort of custom add on. That car design/body looks just as great today, as it did back in 72. GM would still be on top if they could still produce these cars today.
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Kramden, "Another amazing Buick!" :-) High praise, nice. Lou
@carryclass68074 жыл бұрын
interesting was the limited slip diff added aftermarket? i did not see it on the build sheet.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi carryclass, Not sure. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy. Please subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@maniacjack37002 жыл бұрын
NICE
@loucostabile2 жыл бұрын
:-)
@AMCmachine7 жыл бұрын
Hey Lou, wonderful GS! I hope you'll be showcasing that Cyclone in the background too.
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hey AMCmachine, Glad you like this car :-) Here is the Cyclone, Enjoy. Lou kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5W5imWOp7l4f9E
@AMCmachine7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
@chrischarido80817 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful GS !!!! If I could please critique one thing you need to straighten out every GS emblem on the car
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris Charido, Glad you enjoyed the looks of this one :-) Hope you see many more cars on the Channel you'll enjoy, Lou
@lunes-14 жыл бұрын
👍Beautiful Car,made me remember the Red Ford Capri I had 20 years ago that I sold ,and now regret it.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Cristina Lexy Reef Tank, Happy to read this one brings back memories of your Capri :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing, Lou
@steffyhobmann50377 жыл бұрын
Lou...you are welcome!
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
:-)
@wickedfirefly137 жыл бұрын
Nice! Love the Arctic white... the triple looks great! The belly of the beast is impressive n sounds well fed! Arctic white and that belly.... icey hot! Fun story, cool vid, thank you!!
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi WickedFireFly13, "The belly of the beast is impressive N sounds well fed!" FANTASTIC :-) So enjoy reading your comment, the pleasure is mine, and you're welcome, Lou
@garbage8547 жыл бұрын
Very nice :)
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this one :-)
@georgemattar11825 жыл бұрын
Love the car. However, he goofed with the GM Mark of Excellence label on door. 1967 only. Love N25. Very few cars were ordered with it. Another super car Lou.
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi George, Happy to read you 'love the car" :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing your knowledge, Lou
@user-zx8de8op9l6 ай бұрын
Nice car, My friend bought one used for $450 in the early 80's It was white, he sold it to a friend for decent money a few years later, it was totaled. That friend destroyed cars,
@loucostabile6 ай бұрын
:-)
@Ptm65697 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul T McNulty, Glad you enjoyed this one :-) Thank you for viewing and sharing, Lou
@dreammerchant44424 жыл бұрын
The CUTLASS SUPREME CAME WITH A VERY SIMULAR INSIDE DOOR PANEL . I HAD THE 72 BUICK GS NOT A STAGE 1 THOUGH.BUT THE 350 4 BBL MODEL GOLD WITH BLACK INSIDE . THERES A BLUE ONE I SEEN THAT HAD STAGE ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE DASH YES THEY CAME WITH EMBLEM ON DASH. BUT THIS IS RARE CAUSE ONLY 15 MADE TRIPLE WHITE. NICE CAR.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi NO NAME, Thank you for viewing and sharing your knowledge. Lou
@brianmoore80804 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear about the stage 2 heads and why nobody has them or why their not used
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, Thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy. Please subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@jeremythompson98955 жыл бұрын
Buick Riviera's were always really nice cars too
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts.
@kevinnewton7256 Жыл бұрын
Always had alot of respect for the Buick 455 Stage 1. Buick just had to get 1 more cubic inch out of that engine block to surpass the 1970 Chevelle 454 LS6.
@loucostabile Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, Happy to read you respect this car :-) Thank you for viewing, sharing and I believe you're going to see many more cars on this Channel you'll enjoy. Hope you Subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@redtorino7 жыл бұрын
Deep, throaty idle....that says POWER.
@loucostabile7 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@ibrahimovicadesanya16805 жыл бұрын
7:27 Thanks again Tachometer!
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts.
@peterhogan95377 жыл бұрын
Even a Vaga had a cigeritte lighter back in those day,s.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter Hogan, Thank you for viewing and sharing your knowledge. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy. Please subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@kikurass3226 жыл бұрын
5:12 I find it rather ironic that there is a 'GM Mark of Excellence sticker' on the door shell, yet the door shell has undergone a terrible repair.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for viewing & sharing. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy, Lou
@dreammerchant44424 жыл бұрын
Surprised it didn't come with the horse shoe shifter and COUNSIL.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for viewing and sharing.
@Johnnycdrums4 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between 455 GS Stage 1 and 455 GSX?
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnnyc drums, I'm hoping a Buick Expert can answer your question, however I recall the GSX was a car that came in two colors, Saturn Yellow & Apollo White. Hope that helps, Lou P.S. Like this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/amW5e6abn7RkkMk
@jayguneyler45075 жыл бұрын
Iv never see that exhaust 👍👍
@loucostabile5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay Guneyler, Glad to read you learned something about this car :-) I'm learning from the Care Takers of the cars all the time, and I find that so much fun and it's interesting too, Lou
@dylanmarcus92214 жыл бұрын
I have one of these in yellow, how much are they worth?
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Glad to read you have a cool yellow one of these. I have no idea on the value.
@OakJex3 жыл бұрын
A feller won’t have to be fixalating on that old Buick
@loucostabile3 жыл бұрын
Hi OakJex, Thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts. Hope you see many more cars on this KZbin Channel you enjoy. Please subscribe, and hit the "bell" so you can see all the cars when they are uploaded on this KZbin Channel, Lou
@1955mouse4 жыл бұрын
ah, yes....the last of the best buicks nice! and it's even got aweome powerage too! skylark gs?? I know it's a skylark body
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Hi mouse lee, Happy to read you like this Buick :-) Lou
@TheRacerbrown4 жыл бұрын
Yes by 72 and 73 the car companys were taking out all the BEANS from the engines.
@loucostabile4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@Budstudly6 жыл бұрын
that's a great car....except...no muscle car ever should be colum shift ever...
@loucostabile6 жыл бұрын
Hi benton cox, a Purist :-) Lou
@jeremythompson98956 жыл бұрын
I hear ya.....that's pretty much my opinion too. There's no substitute for a 4 speed with a Hurst shifter. But there were some very good automatic transmissions during that era(Mopar 727 torqueflite,Ford C6, GM Turbo 350 and 400)