1981 Chevy Truck vs. Ford - Dealer Film GM200

From the 1981 Truck Comparisons laserdisc (GM200), comes this dealer video pitting GM's light-duty pickups against Ford.
Please note the last 30 seconds of the video do start to break-up (disc rot), but we eventually make it to the end without much content loss.

[@lancevance2005]

The fact you can drive anywhere and still see these trucks rolling around really shows how well built these trucks were

[@HoboDillie226]

old doesn't mean better its how you take care of it there actually more tinny than new trucks and way under powered and suspensions are under built.

[@christophercolumbus8944]

where? i never see these trucks on the road

[@chargermaster586]

@@christophercolumbus8944 Arizona Texas Were No road salt is Used

[@richardwarfordjr.5622]

Except Michigan where they're built we still have dirt roads with salt everywhere

[@acdc5579]

Love the old dealer promos. Wished I was back in 1981 again.

[@markwilliams5606]

These are made with American Steel. Looked at the Chevrolet Silverado Z71. 65.000+$. Bought a 71 GMC longbed. Fantastic condition. 402-5 speed installed. 23.000$. Very simple 🇺🇸🏁

[@phillipjoseph8768]

40 years from now we won't be able to watch car commercials. They don't make content like this anymore

[@markwilliams5606]

@@phillipjoseph8768 40 Years from now I'll be 105 Years Old. I'll still have my GMC lol🇺🇸

[@roachcoachhelis6387]

@@markwilliams5606 they are made with Chinese steel why do you think they rested before they even got here the metal was exposed to salt water on the trip over

[@mrgmc6314]

That was the year I was born 1981 ... being a kid in the late 80s early 90s was awesome, but once we hit the 2000s the world went crazy and people became disturbed and deranged and values and morals became a thing of the past for most .... sad world we live in today compared to then ....

[@tedforsure8659]

1:46 "The new aerodynamic styling of the front end..." Camera pans to the brick-like front end of the Chev. Too funny!

[@doughewitt3362]

Thank you! I burst out laughing at that point.

[@tylerfranx4286]

Cracks me up because ford and Chevy both made these commercials and somehow the results from the drag race always favors whichever company made the commercial

[@4wdiesels]

I was waiting for him to pull a pack of Marlboro's out of his jacket pocket and light up!

[@michaelv3340]

I'm always amused how these dealer films try to make minor differences out to be huge advantages for their vehicles. Plus, Ford "aging" design after one year, while the Chevy was just a warmed over design from 1973.

[@mountaindew3201]

Well Ford had the same body style for 12 years from 67-79. And Ford trucks from 80-96, had the same bed and cab for over 16 years. And don’t get started on Dodges 30 year same body style

[@daveo532]

On a 20 year old chassis to boot!

[@rayking6979]

Which truck is still most popular today? I think we both know everyone loves a square body.. nobody wants the Ford even today

[@SchnelleKat]

@@rayking6979 plus barely any parts availability! Love me a square.

[@chargermaster586]

@@mountaindew3201 ha ha So tru Dodge Did Not let go of the There 1972-1993 Full Size pickups and Ramcharger Bodystyle Loved it tho Classic from day one.

[@powerband5235]

Both of these trucks are awesome. 🇺🇸 💪

[@vwestlife]

At 14:44 the laser glitch makes it sound like he said "More of the shit full-foam seat"!

[@samholdsworth420]

LOL 😭

[@yamajammer76]

As someone who used to sit on seats like that they were pretty much shit so he is correct. lol

[@jonathonrossebo1783]

There were too many glitches at the end. It sounded like some of the content is missing.

[@FenderFan1964]

I laughed my ass off when I heard that❗

[@wildman510]

Sounded like a ytp edit

[@DonkeyKong2222]

Great content. Now, it's all about which one has massaging seats and Apple Car play.

[@bradleyphillips204]

I always liked the Chevy from 73 to 87 but honestly I'd drive a 70s ,80s or 90s Ford over what any trucks are available now 👌

[@jeffrobodine8579]

Chevy never offered an extended cab in those years but Ford did.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

My grandfather who owned a 67 C10 and 74 C10 opted for an F150 wit 302 in 82. GM were making Inferior trucks back in the early 80s. He didn't care wanted the best truck to tow. Ford was not bad

[@jeffersonstateofmind4057]

Got an 81 f350 4x4 with the 6.6 liter. Everything still works still drives great and all original. Did have the left turn indicator bulb just go out though. It’s also single rear wheel.

[@WesternReloader]

I’ve got an 80 Bronco, manual, stroked 331 5.0, 3.73 limited slips front and rear, scat rotating assembly aluminum heads etc, manual locking hubs, manual transfer case, 600 vac secondary annular boosters, bullet proofing panels, 35” mud terrains, and a granny low 4 speed. Top speed is 140 mph, gets 15 mpg because I drive like an A hole, and I love my bullnose. New power steering pump, steering gear, carpet, etc… it’s a money pit, but I like it

[@chrisstromberg6527]

Well I had an 85 F150 that was only 5 years old at the time, with about 40000 miles on it, and the syncro-gear went on the transmission, driveline ujoints failed, that stupid ignition module failed at least 4 times. You want me to keep going on what else broke. The stuff back then, GMC, Ford, Dodge was all s**t. I know it makes you guys feel better when you get all nostalgic, but this was a horrible time for the US auto industry, the stuff they put out was absolute junk.

[@michaelhungate7506]

I'd have either one of these classics. Both tuff as the day is long.

[@Andyface79]

Until the Chevy rusts to bits in 6 months.

[@brandonbell3089]

@@Andyface79 really??? Because I have several all rock solid. But my bullnose and dentside are pretty rotted in the floors lol 😂

[@fuji302]

I like the part where he says you’d need to get ford’s six cylinder engine to get better mileage than their 5.0 v8. I think if given the choice today everybody will get the 300 I6.

[@chadmiller2224]

no kidding , I'd take a 300I6 anyday over a crap 305 lol. My dad was a foreman for his older brothers company and they had a 92 f250 5speed with a 300 in it that got up to like 800,000 miles before retiring it due to body damage and wear. I rode in it. You would have never believed it was a 6 cylinder by the way it ran and looked. Although the 300 is what the old timers called a "true" six cylinder.

[@john1959ism]

Everybody? Truck buyers typically opt for V8 power over any other cylinder configurations.

[@fuji302]

You must live in blissful ignorance of Cummins community where in-spite of there being 2 V8 diesel options they still buy an I6 diesel.

[@john1959ism]

@@fuji302 you're obviously a right fighter, so I'm not gonna get into a long argument over this. I'm talking across ALL brands, not just Ram heavy duty diesels.

[@chadmiller2224]

​@@john1959ism dude a "True diesel engine" is a 6 cylinder. 6 huge cylinders. Most V8 diesels in smaller trucks are simply conversions. Most of the semi's you see on the highways are 6 cylinder diesel engines. Big difference in a V6 and a I6. The 300 I6 gasoline Ford engine is one of the greatest engines that they have put in a small truck. Just like how the Cummins I6 12V and 24V are much preferred over the competition. Especially if your wanting to build one.

[@fourdoorglory]

Great content. We need to grow viewership of this automotive history.

[@rmx77]

i myself have some of the 1983/1984 buick and oldsmobile laserdiscs like this. sadly one of them is slightly rotted but i still have it none the less. no they arent for sale

[@2dfx]

@@rmx77 nobody is asking you to sell them, but digitizing them and archiving them like this guy this is an important step

[@rightlanehog3151]

I was relieved to see he did not attack the Chevy with a sledgehammer this time 😉

[@royharmon8846]

Wish he would have

[@williammurphy9897]

‘Easy Rolling Tires’ SOLD 😃

[@mattkurtz8549]

I highly doubt that boat anchor 305 beat out the 302 .I remember when I was in third grade my dad having to replace the cam in the nutless 305 in our 77 caprice and the car was only 5 years old . The lobes wore off the cam at 40 thousand.

[@aidenog7380]

Lol I would smash the Gas in my 305 and it was so slow even with a edelbrock intake and carb had to swap a cammed 350 in it

[@mattkurtz8549]

@@aidenog7380 that's about all you can do with one

[@ace0415]

Aside from the cam issue on the 305’s I really liked them. We have a ‘81 caprice with well over 200k miles on it with a 305. It sat for 12 years and started right up and was our daily driver for a couple of years. Lovely little V8. I like the 302 better but you can’t deny the 305 was also a great motor, and a better choice for a truck with the longer stroke

[@TeeroyHammermill]

@Matt Kurtz: Different 305 than a 77. 4bbl carb, high compression with ESC- yes it easily beat the era 302. What they're not telling you is that 305 needed hi octane gas for best performance. Regular 87 octane caused the ESC to retard the timing to prevent knocking which reduced performance.

[@mattkurtz8549]

@@TeeroyHammermill I had 4bbl 305 in my 87 Camaro that was pretty slow as well , big bore 302s will kill the tiny bore long stroke 305 .the only thing good about the 305 is that they stopped making them

[@eddiebolt5781]

These were so covered up with smog equipment they could barely run, especially in CA. By 1986 the 454 had 2 smog pumps so did the 460. Thank god for fuel injection!

[@jmcrjc6799]

They were both slugs in those years for sure lol.

[@jm351]

Let’s not forget the whopping 150hp out of a big block motor. Lol

[@aaronsaegebarth6891]

@@jm351 the 454 was making 240HP in 1986

[@jayflukinger5071]

I would’ve just swapped it for an older big block

[@chargermaster586]

1980s American V8s Are Slow and And very inefficient with no power.

[@daiichidoku]

i wonder why they didn't display what the improved drag coefficiency figure is, and how much of an improvement it is over the '80 model...

[@MrSpartanPaul]

Because it was either miniscule or non-existant. Mostly done for styling. It’s still a big flat nosed box that’s high off the ground. I currently own an 88 and an 89 K5 Blazer with 350s and I get around 13 mpg on the highway with 37” tires. My 87 305 Blazer with stock 235/70/15 tires got 18 mpg.

[@daiichidoku]

@@MrSpartanPaul i know, was sarcasm :P. just marketing BS

[@anonymousphoenix154]

1:43 "Aerodynamic" styling This is so funny, I might not even exist 🤣

[@bobclay2808]

Watched the entire video and I’m very disappointed that the presenter didn’t smoke a single cigarette.

[@yamajammer76]

He sure sounds like he downed at least 2 packs a day.

[@eldo59]

These '80s dealer promo vids are awesome! I want to see the 1981 Buick Regal vid if its available.

[@Danny-ju2ip]

I remember back in '81 when you hooked up your cell phone to charge it the engine would die

[@ryankenyon5010]

They didn't have cell phones in 1981.

[@davidedwards2773]

When Chevys were good trucks. Now their JUNK!

[@wadeely6967]

Agreed, I went newer and both the engine and transmission in an 06 sierra blew. Should have just used that loan to fix the older truck instead cus it still runs.

[@brandonbell3089]

And still have higher reliability scores than the new f150 😂😂

[@brandonbell3089]

Also the most recalls in all of 2022 is ford. And has been so since the 1970s

[@rayking6979]

There not junk I'm still drivin my 2000 S10 today I bought new 280k been the best lil truck ever.. sometimes it all has to do with who maintains it

[@brandonbell3089]

@@rayking6979 they never have been junk lol. That’s why Chevrolet engines and transmissions power 80% of the fords on the track

[@kevinrichards3288]

Those third generation Chevy & GMC C/K series pickups were produced from 1973 through 1991, except the half ton & three quarter ton regular cabs were discontinued in 1987 & the one ton regular cabs were discontinued in 1989. Like the crew cabs, the seventh generation Suburbans & second generation K5 Blazers & Jimmys were also produced from 1973 through 1991. In 1987, the C/K series was dropped & renamed R/V series to make a distinction between them & the upcoming fourth generation C/K series pickups for the 1988 model year & to help people avoid confusion with the two different body designs that were gonna be produced at the same time which lasted up through 1991. 1987 was also the first year for gasoline fuel injected motors. Those seventh generation Ford F-series pickups were produced from 1980 through 1986, & same with the third generation Broncos.

[@glennc7201]

Amazing how the fuel economy hasn't changed much in 40 years,yes the new trucks have more power but these old ones accelerated just fine and could haul as much as the average person needed. I've been driving a 21 ram Laramie etourqe and it is a nice truck,but newer doesn't mean better,I am averaging 15.3 mpg under normal driving by todays standards.

[@Andyface79]

It's safer, hauls more, is faster and is all around better. The only reason the gas mileage hasn't gone up is because American's like buying automotive pigs.

[@edwardpate6128]

I have a 2022 GMC 1500 with 3.0 Duramax and I get in the low 30 mpg on the highway and 25 around town. Love it! The old 6.2 Diesel they refer to in this film was no powerhouse but man they also got great mileage.

[@doordieace5high]

My 2013 F250 has exactly the same gas mileage as the Ford pickup in this video. Lol. Some things never change.

[@ms1406]

My ecoboost f150 is getting 21 mpg the exact same they said the 6 cylinder was getting in the vid... ig the only thing that we know have changed is the prices..

[@lloydandbethbeiler8127]

I would disagree--- they have easily doubled fuel milage and power!

[@markfierke8565]

4:28 air cleaner lid is flipped on the Chevy

[@capri8225]

U can tell by the ol quadrajet sound?

[@raybobkowalski2154]

Back when truck's we're built to last& didn't cost 50 Grand

[@ubeuonly]

relative costs is all relevant to the worth of the dollar at the time. a base model truck now is about $35,000 where it was about half that back in 1980. a decent Ford XLT or ram Big Horn or Chevy Silverado well-equipped is about 50k MSRP now. adjusted for inflation for 1980 it would have been about a 20 or 19,000 truck.

[@colclumper]

yup lasted a 100k if lucky

[@chrisstromberg6527]

Built to last, you have got to be kidding me. Talk to your grandparents or your parents about this junk.

[@magnumcipher4971]

Hilarious to look back at marketing propaganda. The part about the frame made me laugh. Literally every GM pickup from this era suffered a severely cracked frame around the steering box. I’ve worked on and owned lots of them, and haven’t had one yet that didn’t have these cracks.

[@Mrwheresmyhouse]

1:42 "Aerodynamic"

[@fordtruckman80]

Ford did as well, right behind the steering box. I laughed at how he was touting the Olds diesel V8 option over Ford's nonexistent diesel option, but we all know how much of a pile the Olds diesel was. This whole film was comical and should be to anybody who has spent time around both of these trucks.

[@idi0televisi0n]

Mine doesn't

[@idi0televisi0n]

Mostly the swb 4x4 trucks with a lift were most susceptible.

[@magnumcipher4971]

@@idi0televisi0n a quick Magnaflux would likely tell a different story.

[@grantv2313]

I owned an 87 Chevy 22 years ago. Now have a 2020 GMC Sierra AT4. If they still made commercials like this they’d be 4 hrs long. The safety and convenience features that many people don’t even know exist now, blow away anything from the 80s. But you pay for it.

[@elishawarner5579]

Did he just call a SQUARE BODY aerodynamic

[@lloydandbethbeiler8127]

The grill is almost as large as today's trucks😂

[@danwoods315]

Man, that was a lot of corrosion protection. The trucks I had must have not gotten that small vinyl sheet cause they fell apart

[@mistered9435]

Yep! I’ve seen a few of them that had to be swept off of the street when they were only a few years old.

[@jackieliner3812]

He forgot to mention that on a clear,quite night,you can hear Chevy rusting

[@larry8253]

That was one jacked up laser-disc. Ahh the good ole days.. 👴📺

[@danareynolds1786]

Buddy of mine had an 81 C10 with the diesel V8. It self-destucted about a month out of warranty. Since it was externally basically like all gas Olds V8s, we swapped in a 455 out of a 71 Delta 88. About 14 mpg with conservative driving. So, in other words, about 9 mpg! 🤣

[@jmcrjc6799]

I remember those junk converted gas to diesel 350's lol.I remember they put a gas 350 in its place it was a 1983 Chevy 4x4 1/2 ton truck..Give me a 73 Ford 300 any day over that junk lol.

[@jmcrjc6799]

Don't tell Brandon about it lol 😂

[@killroyjohnson1256]

Those pathetic excuses for diesels were and still are the biggest joke ever played on diesel guys ROTFLMAO 🤣🤣🤣

[@killroyjohnson1256]

I'd rather have a 6.0 PowerStroke with 300,000 miles on it than one of those worthless turds 🤣🤣🤣

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@killroyjohnson1256 Same here lol

[@XXx-ev8in]

Thank you for bringing all this history to us to remember and illustrate us on inovencion of those days

[@gerlandkent6377]

my 85 ford f150 truck the tail gate is don't rusted out and my Ford f350 tail gate is not rusted out eather

[@joshhoman]

These are neat, much appreciated for putting them up!

[@rogerrobinson4446]

I'm still amazed at the Kenmore like aerodynamics of that Chevy

[@grantharrison5307]

This bloke could sell ice to Eskimos

[@patrickmcgoldrick8234]

I remember the 292 Chevy sounded like it was grinding itself to death every time you reved it got worse mileage then a 350,and it was not forgiving if ran at high RPMs. The 300 Ford was smooth,even with all the emissions that were mandated for that time,good fuel mileage,and pretty good power,the 300 Ford was a good engine,and I think better than the 292.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

These dealer training videos are fun to watch but always loaded with bullshit. When I was in high school I had a 1990 F-150 with the 302 and a buddy of mine had a 1993 Silverado with the 350 and despite the displacement disadvantage my truck would always take his in a race, I was usually around a truck length ahead by 80mph or so and still slowly pulling. Not sure how much adding fuel injecting in 86 change the game for Ford's output, but like I said my 90 302 would walk my friends 93 350 all day long.

[@anthonypesqueira7540]

Ya right lol

[@doughewitt3362]

You are spot on. The 302 was a race horse. Not much for pulling but I always beat the 350's in a race.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

@@anthonypesqueira7540 Doug Hewitt gets it.

[@zachroberts1988]

Yeah the port injection design ford and Chrysler were using by the late 80s was definitely far superior to those gm throttle body engines... 94 or 95 when the vortec engines came out they were superior to anything ford or Chrysler were making.

[@mikethemechanic7395]

In HS had a 85 Caprice station wagon. My friend had a 87 Ford Ltd. Smoked him every time…

[@opiecunningham1570]

He forgot to mention the massive valve clatter of the 305 when pulling a hill.

[@RohanSanjith]

It depends on quality of the engine oil, pushrod v8s require better oil circulation

[@norlinblack5017]

I love both those trucks. If I had to choose it would be the Chevy. I own one vehicle today and it’s a 98 f150 4.6 v8 2wd and I used to have a 98 GMC Sierra. The Sierra was a little easier to work on because the back of the motor isn’t slid back inside the firewall as much as the ford, but they both pretty easy to work on. That being said I don’t have to work on the ford near as much as I did the gmc. My f150 has 325000 miles on it and the only big repair has been the clutch,slave, and master cylinder. I paid it done and it costed round 850. I did the front suspension myself. With the right tools it was easy n quick. My son owns the gmc now. It has about 225000. I think it’s a 5.7 don’t remember. Constantly wrk on it. Especially the distributor cap and rotor. The cap and distributor costs way more than typical at 75ish. My f150 has coil packs right on front of the motor. I can almost change them from my bedroom. With a lot of miles comes a lot of maintenance. But my f150 has been real good to me. I might start being good to her. The gmc has been hit and sometimes miss with my son.

[@justinwhite9689]

Both were good pick ups.

[@cward094]

I had a 81 Chevy GMC long wheel base...it had 2 gas tanks on it....had a 305 V8 small block...with 350 trans..it was a work horse.💯💯..I traded it in on a newer Chevy Tahoe..Iam a truly Chevy fan....💯👌

[@ProjectFairmont]

Saddle fuel tanks…that’s ok I have an old Pinto haha.

[@leonm6969]

Back when Chevy didn’t make cheesy commercials about how “real people” like their turd cars..

[@brandonbell3089]

Chevrolet is far better than ford 😂😂. Ford is the most recalled brand in history since the 70s

[@namemcnamerton4249]

@@brandonbell3089 to be fair you have to SELL the vehicles to get higher recall numbers

[@brandonbell3089]

@@namemcnamerton4249 Chevrolet and GMC together has sold more vehicles than ford ever has. And STILL has less recalls combined of that says anything

[@jeffrobodine8579]

Chevrolet used to make good, durable vehicles but their quality has been going downhill since 2000.

[@brandonbell3089]

@@jeffrobodine8579 the funny thing is the new Chevrolet truck still ranks more reliable than the fords. The Chevrolet trucks still have less recalls for this whole year of 2022 aswell

[@markwilliams5606]

Chevrolet, Ford. They did last for 10 years like they should! Very Sault after. Got a 71 GMC longbed pick up. Very good condition. Payed 23.000. WHY would you spend 60.000+ for Crap.

[@namemcnamerton4249]

Some people just have to get the new model every facelift

[@markwilliams5606]

@@namemcnamerton4249 Yeah! They probably spend 1200 on there phone to.

[@thewiseguy3529]

They were both "good little work trucks." Nothing wrong with either one. I miss seeing both on the streets 🥴

[@jmcrjc6799]

I agree I will still stick with the Ford though

[@mromatic17]

12:10 “you’ll appreciate the anti corrosion we put into the new 1981 Chevrolet c10”. that didn’t age well! lol these squarebodys are rust buckets, but so is my 1994 f-150. mine isn’t that bad, but every old truck and car was consumed by rust unless it was babied!

[@guitarprepnplus1]

My 81 has less frame rust than most 2010 models and I'm in new England

[@mromatic17]

@@guitarprepnplus1 yeah my 94 f150 only has surface rust on the frame and the body pannels have a few rusted areas the biggest one is like 3”X2.5” its typical aroud the fenders and cab corners. A little body rust on a bosy on frame truck doesn’t hurt the rigidity at all unless it eats the body mounts or frame so its ok. I live in the rockies and we use salt cust we have a huge lake full of it!

[@MitzvosGolem1]

frame in my f150 1990 rusted broke in half behind front axel link. Cannot weld it metal gone. Chevy frames were not box sections like Ford .

[@mromatic17]

@@MitzvosGolem1 that means nothing cuz there are tens of thousands of chevy and ford trucks that have their frames completley rotted out! you can cut out the entire section and replace it. its all about where you live and how well you take care of it! The strut tower thing on the front of my 94 f150 it a very common thing to rust completely out but mine have surface rust but the steel is still 1/4 inch thick.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

@@mromatic17 We have two 150 ferds in NYS box frames . I weld for years and can't repair since no base metal is left . My GM trucks open C channel frame only surface rust not a box like Toyota and Ferds. Both have good and bad issues like mpg. My 2003 4.3 V6 Chevy has 350k miles gets 20mpg in 1500 van best vehicleI ever had. Reliable cheap to fix . Only minor repairs so far . No rust in NYS near salt water . We have road and sea salt here on Island .

[@dfestus]

In New England the chevys of this vintage rusted out really fast.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

Very quickly

[@reddirtadventures5785]

So put a 4 barrel 305 against a 302 2 barrel... and what was the gear ratio differences , only time I've ever heard someone hyped up over a dam 305 lmao

[@jmcrjc6799]

I remember those doggy 305s lol

[@davidhicks2178]

I was thinking the same lol. The 305 probably had a 4 barrel with 4.11 gears and the 302 had 2 barrel with 2.73 gears 😄

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@davidhicks2178 True let's not forget that totally gutless 307 Oldsmobile with a 4 berrel it might has well had a gutless 3.8 V6 under the hood back in the day lol.Man those were some cars lol.Yeah the 302s back then would eat both of them alive.I know you know what I am talking about lol 😂.

[@davidhicks2178]

@@jmcrjc6799 oh yea lol. My mom had an 86 olds Cutlass with the 307 4 barrel. It wasn't no hot rod either but man I wish I had that car today!

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@davidhicks2178 I remember them pretty well i rode in 3 of those cutlass's.My mom had a 1986 cutlass with a 3.8 v6 it definitely not a race car like you said.A friend back in the day had a 307 4 berrel in it..Then another guy I went to school with he had one because that year he had bought a new 93 ranger splash with a 4.0 5 speed..He showed me how bad that ranger would beat his olds cutlass 07 4 berrel olds in every way..I was surprised because I didn't expect that out of a Ford ranger back then lol.

[@mikescaffo4850]

I would take either one of these trucks as they were affordable enough to buy unlike the outrageous ridiculous prices they are today trucks are more expensive today than houses were back then it's completely out of control

[@QTim]

Imagine a world where Ford makes its own promo where it agrees with all these statements about Chevy's superiority)

[@toddbob55]

Love em both but the Ford was better interior was a little more modern also k10/ C10's have issues with frame cracking overall I would buy the Ford.

[@jeromep3182]

Crazy how it’s not available in CA

[@nathanerbaugh9899]

Has Chevy always been doing the Rigged tests on Ford trucks? Why would anyone assume that the tests they conduct on there competition behind closed doors are in any way honest? And in many cases it's irrelevant advantages anyway, even assuming it's accurate. It's this dumb stuff that makes me prefer Ford.

[@jmcrjc6799]

same here

[@silicon212]

It's purely marketing. There is no basis in truth.

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@silicon212 Agreed 👍

[@edwardpate6128]

That Ford Twin I Beam suspension the biggest hunk of junk ever designed!

[@agusw4720]

I still have an 81’ F150 with the Twin I Beam front suspension and it’s not more comfortable the Chevy’s independent front suspension, but is way tougher. I think the biggest junk of junk ever designed that appears in the video is the Olds 5.7 diesel V8, just a sad engine that was slow, unreliable and heavy.

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

Sometimes I like these trucks better than brand new ones.

[@orozcoracing.7450]

that is called marketing, in the real world the ford is much higher in quality than the chevrolet for many reasons, the chevy has serious problems in the chassis, they break where the steering box is screwed, they break where the bolts are embedded that hold the shock absorbers, the chevy has the ball joint of the lower suspension bed, the chevy has the doors hang, you have to lift them to be able to close them, etc... the ford has a better differential... well, to finish soon, today here in mexico the ford trucks of those previous and subsequent years continue to work on a day-to-day basis, you will always find them loaded with fruit, loaded with bricks, in the masonry in rough jobs, while the Chevys are very few that you will see active.

[@germanmg4257]

Exactly, an the 302 would mop the floor with a 305. And i don't hate the 305, but it wouldn't hold a candle to the 302, or the 289. When i think 305 Chevy, i think gutless gas hog lol

[@lightningbuster]

I’ve always been a huge Chevy/Square body nut but they just seem like they’re trying to really nitpick here. Both trucks sound just as good.

[@davetenney5800]

The funny thing is that these trucks basically did not mechanically change for about 40 years.

[@hdrangers]

I remember those Chevy trucks. So much rust around the rear quarters. We had a '67 Buick Wildcat. The rear window rusted out. Was fixed by the dealer. One year later, back and much worse. My parents got rid of it.

[@kadams8395]

The 1980 and 1981 F100 & F150 had a weak chaise, corrected in 1982. The Ford bodies were very thin and rusted just as bad as they did on the Chevrolet, my experience worse. Ford had the best choice for the engine 300-6 and still offered the 9" rear end in 1981. I like the Chevrolet front suspension, and heaver leaf springs on the rear. I can make a 302 run stronger than a 305, but 350 vs 351w that is a good comparison. I have owned both, and both have some really good points, hard to choose.

[@AircraftMechanic-AP]

Dubbed the Swiss cheese frame

[@runsbetterthanitdidgarage.626]

I've owned a few Gm trucks, but the C10 by far had the most appeal to people, I got more compliments on the old truck vs the new one.

[@silicon212]

8:22 here comes the Turbo Encabulator!

[@norlinblack5017]

Chevy had a problem with the door hinge bushings from then all the way to at least 98

[@gerlandkent6377]

Mopar is in a class all by itself

[@mistered9435]

Yes...and it’s NOT GOOD!!

[@gerlandkent6377]

Ford does something that chevy doesn't do ford dips their cab and bed in a liquid galvanize

[@brandonbell3089]

Chevrolet did aswell Lol

[@brandonbell3089]

Both of my 77s are galvanized dipped and are very solid

[@SilentMovements305]

@@brandonbell3089 we get it your a Chevy fan

[@brandonbell3089]

@@SilentMovements305 I have fords aswell 😂😂. I’m stating facts

[@anticat900]

17mpg and 165bhp is actually good from a 5 litre? How shite was previously model?

[@mromatic17]

what do they mean by electronic spark control? is that just a long version of their HEI ignition?

[@cadmanist]

It was a rather clever solution that allowed getting more power out of these emission-choked engines. They were able to run higher compression, and use a knock sensor to retard timing only when detonation was detected.

[@mromatic17]

@@cadmanist yeah i watched that in the video i thought it was just a fancy wording for HEI.

[@silicon212]

ESC was basically an add on module to the then-new C3 OBD system that debuted system-wide in 1981. It used an electronic feedback carb with an O2 sensor for fuel trim, and a computer controlled distributor (spark timing completely controlled by the ECM, no vacuum or centrifugal advance).

[@mromatic17]

What is the point of a 255 4.2 v8 when you can get the 300 6 at no additional cost?

[@isaakwelch3451]

The 255 was an option, the 300 was standard. I think its cause the v8 has some sort of mysticism to americans, even though the 300 is probably a better truck engine than any of the sbf offerings

[@mromatic17]

@@isaakwelch3451 i have a 94 f150 4x4 5.0 5 speed and the 302 is a lot more powerful. the 300 i6 makes peak torque at like 2000 and about 270 and the 302 makes about 310 at 2500. Im not sure what the 302 makes at 200 but its not much less if it is less at all. Plus the 302 from 94 up in the f-150 was basically the same eninge as the fox body mustang and they found that if they pull the engine out and dyno it they make about 250bhp and the 300 makes about 180bhp. the 255 made less torque and hp than the 300 i6. the v8 is still anamazing piece of machinery. you can take a junkyard truck v8 out of a truck and swap out a cam and tune and you are making 600bhp and still getting 20mpg and you can tow 10k lbs!

[@jeffrobodine8579]

The 255 V8 was only rated at 115 horsepower. It was made to be put in Fox body cars.

[@mromatic17]

@@jeffrobodine8579 it was put in the fox body mustangs for like 2 years but they dropped it cuz it only made 120bhp and the turbo 4 and 5.0 were better values.

[@jamesmcintire3800]

That was the era of Ford’s famous “swiss cheese frame” when the only thing they really cared about was fuel economy. If you really needed a truck to work with you had to buy the F250. By 82 they had improved the frame, dropped off the lame 4.2 V8. More powerful gas engines and a diesel came along in 83

[@agusw4720]

I live in a dry zone and maybe that helps to the conservation of the vehicles, but with 41 years my 81’ Ford F-150 never have had frame, mechanical or suspension problems, the swiss cheese frame wasn’t as bad as everyone says.

[@brandonh.8882]

Gas crunch and the government cracking down on mpg. The swiss cheese frame trucks were light duty and i believe the only reason they even existed was to keep the feds off their back.

[@cheesefries7436]

3:49 165 hp out of a 5.0L V8 that gets 20mpg, what a concept.

[@mrjack8849]

3:40 how was Chevy able to get a 5.0 litre V8 to get MPG so high? The only we get close to that today is by cutting off half the cylinders and turning the engine off at stoplights. Did this engine last long in being put into trucks?

[@cheesefries7436]

EPA wasn't breathing down their neck and the gas was better. Modern ethanol gas has less energy in it than non-ethanol gas.

[@edwardpate6128]

GM still using that great Eaton G80 locking differential today!

[@taylorh3930]

My 98 Z71 Silverado has the 14bolt 9.5 G80 diff I run John Deere oil in it works really good it is a bit noisy locking and unlocking in town in winter on ice but 395k my G80 still working like new 😎

[@ProjectFairmont]

Chevy had thicker steel, but still rusted out, same as the Ford. The biggest difference was leg room and cab space was significantly better in the Ford.

[@brandonbell3089]

I have 4 of these trucks extremely solid but my bullnose fords have no floorboards left.

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@brandonbell3089 Blah blah blah yawn 🥱 😴

[@meuhey]

gm dash configuration was way ahead back then

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@meuhey Nope

[@jmcrjc6799]

I've been in both I don't know that I would say they were way ahead..Even the in the day the Econolines were way as far ahead when it came to room both in driver and especially the passenger side.. GM vans was a joke for room.

[@FoDaddy]

They don't have much to say about the 305 2bbl or the I6, or even the 5.7L (which was the best engine offered).

[@johnhull6363]

The 305 2bbl was not available in pickups, all were 4bbl

[@FoDaddy]

@@johnhull6363 It literally lists it as an engine choice @3:01 in the video.

[@namemcnamerton4249]

Ew look at those poor power ratings. I’m glad that changed by the mid 90’s

[@user-xg8yy7yl1d]

Most people who bought bullnoses didnt want power windows, power hubs or power locks because those things just break in the bush.

[@wildman510]

Basically, an actual work/farm truck

[@captainpicard1701e]

It's a shame that the manufacturers don't come out with these types of technical videos about their vehicles anymore. That's because today's truck buyer just cares whether it has Bluetooth, Super Cruise, and Apple Car Play, and 24" Chrome Wheels. They couldn't give two shits about any of the underhood mechanical specifications.

[@traviscloud3941]

You never see a square body without rust on the underside of the panels. Ford might not have a "urethane coating", but they don't rust like that, and I'm a lifetime GM fan lol.

[@edwardpate6128]

Fords and Dodges from that era rusted just as badly here in Michigan.

[@traviscloud3941]

@@edwardpate6128 every make rusts in Michigan. I live in the Texas Gulf Coast with high humidity and it’s pretty bad moisture, but we never salt our roads. They just rot there from the wet roads.

[@claylyons6447]

That Chevy looks good but I'm sure it rusted away before your eyes like most square bodies. Heck, the rust was probably already starting at the time this film was made.

[@g2skinny]

Love the old videos dude thanx

[@yamajammer76]

That host smoked a lot of cigarettes. Lol

[@thewiseguy3529]

He was only 36 yrs old. Imagine that one.

[@yamajammer76]

@@thewiseguy3529 What? I thought he was somewhere around 50 in this video. Not kidding! Who is he anyhow?

[@hank1556]

@@yamajammer76 he's older than 36 😆

[@yamajammer76]

@@hank1556 Well I don’t trust him anyway. I just saw a video from a few years before this and he was trying to sell Fords saying they were great and now he claims they are crap.

[@RhinoXpress]

both were solid trucks but there is no question the bull nose ford F series had the chevy CK series beat in the looks department. The chevy ck series was largely unchanged in design except for the edition of quad square headlamps, it looked exactly like the 73 model inside and out.

[@MrSpartanPaul]

They changed the hood and wiper valance as well as the front fenders. Dashboard is different too but hardly noticeable. Glass was thinner and frames were differently shaped at the very front ends. Different crossmembers and mounting method too. Lots of other small interior differences but that’s just plastic stuff.

[@camclarke9952]

Put the crack pipe down,the square body Chevy is 110 percent better in looks and performance

[@brandonbell3089]

The 81-87 Chevrolet squarebody trucks were FAR more liked and are much more sought after to this day than any bullnose ford with its plastic dashes and inner fenders 😂😂

[@Patrick-cs6qi]

I agree, the 80-86 Ford trucks are in my opinion one of the best looking trucks ever made. I never cared for the flat bland front end of the chevys of this era, plus the mirrors on the chevy are hideous.

[@brandonbell3089]

@@Patrick-cs6qi the ford mirros are cheap and and prone to getting loose and broken off 😂😂. There the cheapest mirrors there are they bolt them on everything for that reason

[@TheKustom59]

LOL! GM still lies on their commercials. I still have my dads 82 Lariat 351W he bought new, truck was and still is reliable, almost every family member and friend who owned a square body had nothing but problems, trucks were always at the dealership getting warranty work.

[@brandonbell3089]

Mans dreaming. There’s a reason you see more squarebodys than anything else

[@TheKustom59]

@@brandonbell3089 Of course, they've been restored

[@tomjoad8272]

now I want a video of the outtakes of this guy just like the winnebago man.

[@BRM97]

What about Loading and chassis strength gmc c35 or c25 same like chevy c30 or c20 ????

[@aaronsaegebarth6891]

Love the rare 1981 only green interior. Don't see them often.

[@littlealex938]

I love my 81 c10

[@joshjohnson6163]

I love these product promotion videos. 😂

[@Dboyquicks10]

Chevy guy here and I gotta say so much bs. The fuel economy was way off. The diesel engine was the biggest turd ever. Also I can't believe he was bragging about 165 hp.

[@skittlecar1]

Laughs in my 2017 Malibu with a 91 ci 4 cylinder.

[@edwardpate6128]

165 was pretty good in 81. I lived through that era. Funny thing is those trucks didn't seem that slow to me.

[@Dboyquicks10]

@@edwardpate6128 yes I've owned several of them. Their power felt ok then. I wish I still had those old trucks. They'd be worth a poor boy's fortune now.

[@brentacusmaximus6677]

There's sooo much biassed bullshit in this commercial, its hilarious 🤣

[@edwardpate6128]

Remember, this isn't a commercial. It is for dealer sales staff training.

[@wesleynash9385]

I love both trucks

[@Jamalsneed44]

I like the ford styling better

[@johnnyhb89]

Lol at the traction aid demonstration. It is almost like the chevy driver is trying to engage the '100 percent lock' traction aid at the lowest possible speed differential to prevent the rear end from imploding. The clutch type in the ford is more dummy proof, even if it doesn't give 100 percent lock, and frequently wears out in high mileage trucks.

[@blayneL2024]

What do you mean major redesign for the Chevy it’s been the same body style from 1973-1987

[@braddietzmusic2429]

What is interesting about this and many other truck video comparisons is the premise that truck buyers aren’t incredibly brandist, and that a lot of longtime owners of one of the big three would ever really think of buying one of the other two of the big three. Sure there are inevitably converts, but… I think the fallacy is that the Chevy video would get a lot Ford people to switch. Maybe some. Much more likely the video simply got existing Chevy owners to pull the trigger on another new Chevy. Right?