1983 Alabama vs Penn State: "So Close But So Far"

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@jmbuff1
@jmbuff1 5 ай бұрын
Penn State graduate/fan here, but that was pretty clearly a touchdown. He bobbles it for a hot second, but if you slow it down, he gets control and still has his entire body off the ground except for that right foot. TD. We caught a huge break on that. It's funny because we got a huge break the year before in the same area, on that catch by Mike Mcloskey against Nebraska. He was so far out of bounds on that catch on the sidelines it's actually absurd. Everyone talks about Bowman's catch to win the game, but that was pretty clearly a good catch when you see it from behind the QB. The Mcloskey catch on the previous play was WAY out of bounds! We've been screwed our share too. They probably all even out over the long term.
@brantpatterson3046
@brantpatterson3046 Ай бұрын
FWIW, I've been to a few PSU/Bama games & PSU fans are among the best. Always enjoyed fellowship with you guys.
@shindigga420
@shindigga420 2 ай бұрын
Such a great underrated rivalry.
@panthercreek60
@panthercreek60 4 жыл бұрын
That one still hurts. Greatest comeback in history ruined by a dishonest ref
@duaneholcomb8408
@duaneholcomb8408 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth
@johnhoie-hj7cg
@johnhoie-hj7cg Ай бұрын
We Nebraska fans were sympathetic. Someone came up with a drawing of that field with a chunk taken out of the end zone and added to the left sideline, where the PSU receiver the year before caught the ball a yard out but was given a completion. Back then the refs were mostly local and provided by the home team.
@johnwalker55
@johnwalker55 6 жыл бұрын
The " Guman's uncle" play. The tail back that got stuffed in the '79 Sugar Bowl goal line stand was Mike Guman. His uncle was the ref on the spot this play.
@ronniewoodinsteadofmt2615
@ronniewoodinsteadofmt2615 2 жыл бұрын
I’m probably wrong . Thought the uncle was to Pete Gistpolois . Some funny last name . My goodness that was a touchdown . Worst call ever . Damn it
@adambaum9732
@adambaum9732 6 жыл бұрын
He had BOTH feet in, that was a touchdown!
@ytharper66
@ytharper66 6 жыл бұрын
That call made me livid as a teen! He’s so obviously in bounds.
@livetotell100
@livetotell100 Жыл бұрын
Yet, control of the ball counts too. When he established his one foot, he didn't have control. He gained control when his whole back was out of bounds. But hey, I'm a Penn State guy. But I can relate. In 1995, Penn State should have been National Champs. But a few crappy calls by the refs, against Illinois, made the game closer than it appeared. So Nebraska jumped Penn State as #1. And Penn State went to #2. Then, Penn State crushed Oregon in the Rose Bowl, and Nebraska BARELY beat Miami. And because old Tommy Osborne cried enough, the votes went to Nebraska.
@videostellall
@videostellall Жыл бұрын
his knees even hit in bounds after he caught it. Paterno even stated that it was a catch, but he believed Alabama had movement on the play. But the movement was because PSU was offsides and that wasn't called either
@mroerled
@mroerled 6 жыл бұрын
Walter Lewis is one of my all time favorite Bama QB he needs more respect
@ryanwilliams9996
@ryanwilliams9996 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they called an obvious offside but geez it's a touchdown. Everything was in bounds. Feet, knees, possession and survived ground. 👀
@rupertmay3014
@rupertmay3014 3 жыл бұрын
He CAUGHT THE FUCKING FOOTBALL!!! INBOUNDS
@rmp3648
@rmp3648 Жыл бұрын
PSU guy here, and yeah as much as it pains me to say it😆that was a TD.
@keithsmith3840
@keithsmith3840 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember that play. There's no way that official thought that he was out of bounds. Look like that official had an agenda
@captainjim6300
@captainjim6300 5 жыл бұрын
He did after it was investigated as schools other than Alabama also got more bad calls from him.
@brandonkienle6996
@brandonkienle6996 3 жыл бұрын
I was at this game. No instant replay no big screen at the game either. I was probably 10 years old.
@panthercreek60
@panthercreek60 Жыл бұрын
A touchdown all day long, every day. Every time
@willbuchanon5757
@willbuchanon5757 2 жыл бұрын
Walter Lewis was unconscious in the 4th qtr as Baba abandoned the run game....Ref had his back to the catch...
@GeorgiaKev
@GeorgiaKev 12 жыл бұрын
This was absolute robbery. That was clearly a touchdown. In fact, this was the second time in two seasons that Penn State was awarded a big win based on horrendous officiating (in 1982, Penn State defeated Nebraska after a clearly out-of-bounds catch on fourth down was ruled a completion).
@charliekennedy2545
@charliekennedy2545 3 жыл бұрын
Great call. Ref ray charles.
@philweiand4564
@philweiand4564 3 жыл бұрын
Tight end is bouncing at the line of scrimmage , 5 yard penalty against bama . That’s the right call .
@1topsecrets15
@1topsecrets15 12 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they make them review the plays now with the updated college rules and camera angles they have now. Alabama also got screwed out of a touchdown between texas in a championship game because of a bad call and it messed up Alabama with what should have been another championship win for bama but the call cost bama a lost just because a bad call.... It sucks when that happends in any sport team that rightfully wins gets screwed by bad calls.
@NittanyNation22
@NittanyNation22 12 жыл бұрын
That's alright. We've been paying for it for the last 10 years.
@GeorgiaKev
@GeorgiaKev 12 жыл бұрын
I remember that, too. Even though I was pulling for Penn State against Nebraska in that '82 game, that was an outrageous call. Well, Nebraska certainly got their revenge against PSU in '83...a 44-6 demolition in the Meadowlands! Heh-heh.
@rawn4203
@rawn4203 3 жыл бұрын
Have to to give PSU some credit though for playing that game, given who each team lost and had coming back (psu losing blacklege and warner) and neb losing virtually nobody - aside from Nebraskas obvious desire for revenge - this had bloodbath written all over it. Interestingly enough IIRC Neb was only about a 6.5 point favorite over PSU in this game, maybe because PSU had beaten them twice in a row.
@jcchs2007
@jcchs2007 4 жыл бұрын
Refs got paid that day
@61shark
@61shark 6 жыл бұрын
The ref making the end zone call is mike Guman’s uncle. Talk about conflict of interest!
@rogerbahakel
@rogerbahakel 12 жыл бұрын
coach paterno offered to forfeit this game but perkins said no.
@lennymo36
@lennymo36 7 жыл бұрын
replay would have fixed this, bama got robbed
@BamaRewind
@BamaRewind 7 жыл бұрын
One of the worst calls I've ever seen. Really ridiculous how long it took to implement replay. The USFL introduced it in 1983, and it should have immediately been put in place by every other league. Instead, we had to wait over 20 years to get it in college for no good reason at all. No telling how many games would rightfully have gone the other way in that timespan. I can think of at least two games that would have been wins for Bama off the top of my head and one that might have been a loss
@trent3872
@trent3872 6 жыл бұрын
The year before Penn st got a touchdown in the same end zone and came down a yard out of bounds. No cheating going on in happy valley. Alabama has been cheated out of more games than any team ever!
@captainjim6300
@captainjim6300 5 жыл бұрын
Official was fired after also making a horrible call against Nebraska if I recall anyway it turned out he had connections to Penn State.
@buckstraw925
@buckstraw925 4 жыл бұрын
@@BamaRewind You guys will never ever get this one right. The proper call was illegal procedure against Alabama. There was no neutral zone or drawing the O offsides in those days. Get over it.
@derecknelson1892
@derecknelson1892 3 жыл бұрын
@@buckstraw925 as much as everyone will disagree lol you are correct
@denveraic
@denveraic 12 жыл бұрын
I did not know that tbh. I will take your word on it though.
@terryholloway3241
@terryholloway3241 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, replays weren't used back then to overturn calls.
@stevemtc1
@stevemtc1 3 жыл бұрын
I tell you one thing we had 5-6 turnovers so one argument states we didn’t deserve to win, that being said, that’s was a bad call every newspaper in the country let us know it the Tennessean had a perfect shot of him coming down with in his hands. Two teams deserve to win that day
@joeday4293
@joeday4293 3 жыл бұрын
It was so obvious, even a Tennessee newspaper couldn't go along with it. LOL
@gene2049
@gene2049 Жыл бұрын
We won that game. I remember
@dantheman5745
@dantheman5745 6 жыл бұрын
Gothard got everything but his right ear lobe in bounds. Maybe that's what the ref (Jack O'Rourke) was looking at. I dunno. Some "funny" calls went PSU's way in some big games at Happy Valley in the early 80's. (says the Nebraska fan)
@rawn4203
@rawn4203 11 жыл бұрын
Yikes, what an awful call. That along with the 82 call against Nebraska.....this one was even clearer. And who cares about the offsides or neutral zone call against PSU, bama would have just declined and taken the TD had the blind ref not effed it up. What a shitty call against bama.
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 10 жыл бұрын
It would have been the greatest comeback in college football history (down 7-34 at the start of the 4th quarter).
@elefantecremisi
@elefantecremisi 10 жыл бұрын
We should have been penalized, not PSU. At that time there was no "neutral zone" bullshit. A defender could go run circles around a running back, as long as he was on his side of the LOS when the ball was snapped. Offensive players were not allowed to move. The only way it could have been a penalty on PSU, is if the defender made contact with the offensive player.
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 8 жыл бұрын
elefantecremisi take a look at where the ball was snapped by the center. Pause it when the ball is snapped. The defender did not make it back in time.
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 8 жыл бұрын
elefantecremisi 0:34 exactly.
@teller1290
@teller1290 3 жыл бұрын
Though it appears that the Bama end moved before the ball was snapped. I'd never seen that before.
@williamcaseylaw
@williamcaseylaw 6 жыл бұрын
TERRIBLE CALL THE REF SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE
@sweetdaddy62
@sweetdaddy62 12 жыл бұрын
time and again everyone gets this wrong, the correct call should have been illegal procedure against Alabama ; look at the right end, he moves before the snap, 5 yard penalty, back then D was allowed in the neutral zone and if the O moved it was a penalty on the O ; case closed
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. You can not apply half the rules of today and half the rules of the time it was played. Replay wasn't installed back then and the flinch of the OL due to encroachment wasn't seen. No penalty. Happens all the time back then. The TD however, was seen by millions of people at the time and the referree was standing right on top of it as the Bama player rolled in bounds before falling out of bounds. His involvement with Penn St influenced that call.
@TriangleChoke96
@TriangleChoke96 12 жыл бұрын
Elephants never forget... Crimson Tide fans even less so... appropriate that the last team Paterno lost to (on the field) was Alabama... 27-11...
@user-is9tf9xx4u
@user-is9tf9xx4u 13 жыл бұрын
That's one of the worst calls I've ever seen. The ref is right on top of the receiver whose left foot is about a yard in bounds when he catches the ball. Too bad they didn't have instant replay review back then. Would've clearly been another Bama win.
@brianbrown7238
@brianbrown7238 4 жыл бұрын
That ref got paid jack
@colemangothard7972
@colemangothard7972 5 ай бұрын
He was in…
@Native5
@Native5 Жыл бұрын
That was a touchdown. Penn State jumped
@BobPapadopoulos
@BobPapadopoulos 11 жыл бұрын
Alabama was ranked third in the country when this happened.
@jmua04
@jmua04 13 жыл бұрын
Robbed---one of the biggest rip-offs in college history.
@moester75
@moester75 2 жыл бұрын
It was so blatantly obvious that Preston Gothard was in by more than a foot and it ruined what would have been Walter Lewis’ all time career TD throws. I was seven and all the adults were fuming Bama was robbed. In Joey Jones’ book he said the referee that made the call didn’t look at Preston Gothard’s eyes when they protested the call. That ref knew it was a TD. Only Walter Lewis cold have gotten away from that Penn State D-Lineman to avoid the sack. Daniel Moore should have painted that picture as “The Steal”.
@videostellall
@videostellall Жыл бұрын
PSU offsides too
@elefantecremisi
@elefantecremisi 11 жыл бұрын
Bama's right end jumped before the ball was snapped. At that time, it wasn't illegal for a defender to cause an offensive player to jump. He could run around in their backfield as long as he was back on his side of the LOS before the ball was snapped. As soon as the end jumped the play should have been blown dead and Bama moved back five yards.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
It still isn't illegal. If the defense encroaches on the LOS, the offense reacts to that, then it isn't a penalty on the offense. Regardless, the play continues and the ofense can take the penalty on the defense or the play, a TD in this case.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
That said, if it happens that the refs blow the whistle, the play ends their. But that didn't happen.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. You can not apply half the rules of today and half the rules of the time it was played. Replay wasn't installed back then and the flinch of the OL due to encroachment wasn't seen. No penalty. Happens all the time back then. The TD however, was seen by millions of people at the time and the referree was standing right on top of it as the Bama player rolled in bounds before falling out of bounds. His involvement with Penn St influenced that call.
@panthercreek60
@panthercreek60 4 жыл бұрын
You're right about the the end being offsides but the defensive players never got back behind the line before the snap. Off setting perhaps but Penn St was offsides and gotthard did score
@uFlubber
@uFlubber 13 жыл бұрын
I blew out my knee on this first punt play in this game.
@jamesshelton4530
@jamesshelton4530 5 жыл бұрын
This should be forever known as the "State College screwjob ".
@BamaRewind
@BamaRewind 5 жыл бұрын
I call it "The Swindle in State College"
@Bamafandave3450
@Bamafandave3450 13 жыл бұрын
I wished they reviewed plays back then, Bama would've won !!!!!! in the greatest comback in NCAA history,This is one game I never gotten over, but Bama did give Grand Pappy Joe a good butt kicking yesterday.
@Bossrich6287
@Bossrich6287 7 жыл бұрын
mike gumans' father was one of the refs in this game.
@scottwhite1963
@scottwhite1963 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was...
@Pannieforever
@Pannieforever 10 жыл бұрын
Remember watching this.Had to be one of the worst calls in SPORTS history.Only thing worse was the umpire in the 1985 World Series calling a Kansas City runner safe at first base even though he was still two strides away when the first baseman caught the ball!
@NittanyNation22
@NittanyNation22 12 жыл бұрын
When the Alabama player gains control of the ball, it appear his knee touches down in bounds. That's a touchdown. Ouch.
@joeday4293
@joeday4293 3 жыл бұрын
Hell, that's not just a touchdown, that's a Sunday afternoon touchdown. One foot was all he needed, but his knee went down too. I was eleven when I saw this game, and it's still one of the biggest rip-offs my team has ever suffered at the hands of the refs.
@sweetdaddy62
@sweetdaddy62 12 жыл бұрын
sorry man but you are not correct, 30 years ago if the D moved into the neutral zone and then the O moved prior to the snap it was a penalty on the O, this was later changed to the rule we have today but back then it was an illegal procedure penalty, 5 yards against the Tide
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. You can not apply half the rules of today and half the rules of the time it was played. Replay wasn't installed back then and the flinch of the OL due to encroachment wasn't seen. No penalty. Happens all the time back then. The TD however, was seen by millions of people at the time and the referree was standing right on top of it as the Bama player rolled in bounds before falling out of bounds. His involvement with Penn St influenced that call.
@Boomdawg96
@Boomdawg96 12 жыл бұрын
It was a TD (I'm a PSU fan) but if you look closely the Alabama right tackle moved prior to the snap. Back then even if the D moved into the neutral zone and THEN the O line moved the penalty was on the O line. Should've been a 5-yard penalty against Alabama. Still a Hell of a game though.
@tiderbean
@tiderbean Жыл бұрын
Go fu.c.k. yourself you child mole.sting cesspool school. You s,hitheads would say anything to justify a confirmed cheat call. Go back and do some research. The refree involved had a nephew on Child Mol,est U's team and simply did not want Alabama to win. It's known as your discretions with kids in the shower.
@nightraider9428
@nightraider9428 11 жыл бұрын
I remember that game, still can't believe the so called ref made that call. Sure hope they made him get his eyes checked after they replayed that one & realized for certain it was a td, lol....
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 5 жыл бұрын
Impossible to watch his feet and hands at the same time from where he was. He was bobbling it, BUT secured it and was inbounds (it appears), but watch the refs eyes. It appears he is locked in on his hands. I thought it was rubbery, but on further review. Undisputable he had secured it when he hit the ground??? High bar, as it should be.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 3 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8861 IF the guy was on the ground laying flat, and it landed on him, bounced 10 feet in the air, and landed on him again, and again, 9 foot, 8 foot 7 foot, until it finally laid to rest in his hands, it would be a catch. Him on the ground is immaterial. He was sliding out of bounds clearly down, with ball secured.
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleymyrick4068 ur analogy is wrong. If any part of ur body other than hands or feet are touching and ball pops up, it would be an incomplete pass.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 3 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8861 No it wouldn't. It would be a catch and downed right there. If I'm mistaken about that, I'd be very surprised.
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleymyrick4068 I guess you'll be very surprised then. This is covered in Rule 4, Article 3-b in the NCAA rulebook: A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead: When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his body, except his hand or foot When the ball pops up 10 feet, the ball becomes DEAD because the player was already touching the ground with his back regardless if the ball fall straight back to him. The NFL is not the same.
@billdyess
@billdyess 3 жыл бұрын
Penn State deserved to win this game - they obviously paid the refs just the right amount
@dantheman5745
@dantheman5745 6 жыл бұрын
One of the worst calls in football history, unfortunately made by one of the best refs, Jim Tunney, was the FG awarded to Green Bay's Don Chandler in the Packers' 1965 overtime playoff game win over the Colts. Chandler's FG tied the score, 10-10, with less than 2 minutes to play. If you want to know if the kick was actually good or not, just keep your eye on Chandler after the kick. It was because of that kick that you now see 2 refs under the goal posts, one under each upright.
@paulevereklian
@paulevereklian 11 жыл бұрын
how the heck did the ref missed that watching it live it was clear it was a TD what a terrible call
@BJP4UA
@BJP4UA 13 жыл бұрын
mike guman got stopped on the famous goal line stand in the sugar bowl the year before. his uncle was one of the refs in that game but he was not the one that made that call. touchdown all the way! rtr.
@gregpilgrim3750
@gregpilgrim3750 3 жыл бұрын
So close but so far my ass ….it wasn’t even close …both feet in …touchdown!!! 😂
@snapperco
@snapperco 13 жыл бұрын
at least the announcers got the call right
@davidmorrison4291
@davidmorrison4291 11 жыл бұрын
Coach Perikins was not happy the week of this game .Because JoePa had the father of a player as a ref. guess who's father may the call. Ray told Joe after the gamehe was going to put an end to rest of the games if the ref issue was not addressed.
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 5 жыл бұрын
Jack O’Rourke made the call, but I can find nothing that confirms his relation to any PSU player that was current or former. This article www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2011/1983-alabama-penn-state-preston-gothard-catch/ says The climactic play grew more controversial when reporters discovered that one of the officials working the game was related to a former Penn State player.
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 5 жыл бұрын
On further review, had Jack's son (if he had one) been on the current roster, the whole world would have known. Bullshit rumor.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8861 Its not a BS rumour. It is true. However, the ref that made the call, was just a colleague of the referree who's relation was Penn State. So the actual referree that made the call was not the relation. However, they were colleagues and to say that that relationship was not a contributing factor is something that is hard to deny, when you try to figure out how in the world that call could have been made. The only sensible reason, when you start looking for reasons, is that he blacked out for a few seconds as the Bama player rolled inside the inzone before going out of bounds, or the relation had an influence.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8861 No it wasn't. You can not apply half the rules of today and half the rules of the time it was played. Replay wasn't installed back then and the flinch of the OL due to encroachment wasn't seen. No penalty. Happens all the time back then. The TD however, was seen by millions of people at the time and the referree was standing right on top of it as the Bama player rolled in bounds before falling out of bounds. His involvement with Penn St influenced that call.
@catsogod
@catsogod 8 жыл бұрын
Bad Call! Home Cooking by the Officials!
@AW-zy1kw
@AW-zy1kw 5 жыл бұрын
That was not a "bad call". No one not named Mr Magoo would have called that out that was being honest. That was a straight up rip off.
@tiderbean
@tiderbean 9 жыл бұрын
ok, for all you that keep saying the tight end moved and it should be illegal procedure, the rusher jumped into the neutral zone and made contact with the tight end before he moved. That is allowed by rule and is offsides. Stop protecting this shitty call!
@samueldye2772
@samueldye2772 6 жыл бұрын
Home Cooking by the Refs.....
@Boomdawg96
@Boomdawg96 12 жыл бұрын
You completely missed what I was saying. Back then it did not matter if the guy crossed the line and the OL moved, the OL still moved. Those were the rules. I know, it doesn't make sense to me either but those were the rules. If happened 20 years ago so if you're STILL bitter over it then I feel sorry for you.
@gregpilgrim3750
@gregpilgrim3750 3 жыл бұрын
That referee got fired after that game … he made some bad calls in the Nebraska game the same year and his nephew was the running back that got stopped on the goal line stand in the 1979 Penn State Alabama national championship game sooooo?!😂
@GeorgiaKev
@GeorgiaKev 12 жыл бұрын
Penn State (#41) stood up and charged across the line of scrimmage. He did not scoot back and get back into proper formation. 'Bama's right tackle's body barely moved and it was only in reaction to Penn State's blatant encroachment. I think you're trying to give yourself some comfort in knowing that Alabama was robbed on that play. Furthermore, why was the clock not run back up to eight seconds after Alabama accepted the offsides' penalty?
@elefantecremisi
@elefantecremisi 10 жыл бұрын
Guys, I'm as big a Bama fan as there is. We did not get robbed on this play. Watch closely, the right end jumps, but there's no flag. Even the announcer caught it. Should have been whistled dead before the play could even develop. I've always had a healthy respect for Penn State and Paterno. The fans are usually class acts, unlike Timothy Ready down below. He's right in his statement, and that's one reason I've always liked them so much, because I empathized. They're the only program which has been ripped off as much or more than we have by the polls. I was about to unload on his punk ass, but I see we have some true PSU fans here who act like I'm used to seeing PSU folks act. And I wouldn't want to insult their school or team and have them think it was directing at anyone but the @ss wipe. Hell, he's probably a Michigan fan, anyway. Maybe Pitt or WVU. And why he's giving us the finger, I'll never know. We sure as hell didn't have a vote in the polls. He needs to calm his wussy little arse down.
@NWAfan
@NWAfan 11 жыл бұрын
30 years later Karma payed Penn STate back.
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 6 жыл бұрын
NWAfan Well it wasn't Penn State, it was the officials.
@meditationrosewicks278
@meditationrosewicks278 5 жыл бұрын
PSU always gets screwed.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedElephantStampede The uncle of someone... right? I mean, family, no stronger bonds? Did the ref get a cigar afterwards?
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 3 жыл бұрын
This ruined one of the games I would have put in my top 5 games I've ever watched. Even Penn St fan's can't be happy with this "win" because of the family member ref jacking the result. It was one of the most fantastic come backs I've ever seen.
@bamajc777
@bamajc777 12 жыл бұрын
My goodness just his whole body was in bounds when he caught the ball that's all smh
@jbsmg
@jbsmg 13 жыл бұрын
How did they let a guy who is related to a PSU player ref that game? That is messed up. They should fx the history books for this game. This is the type of shit that makes me think (even back then) that referees have something riding on these games.
@1garthurs
@1garthurs 13 жыл бұрын
Looks like #41 was offsides as well.
@lennymo36
@lennymo36 7 жыл бұрын
i remember watching this, preston gothard was the te that caught it from walter lewis
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz 11 жыл бұрын
Typical PSU home cooking. I remember the game when it happened. This issue for me is that the call is so egregious. I mean the guy was at least a half a yard inside the goal line. A little payola.
@elefantecremisi
@elefantecremisi 10 жыл бұрын
Watch the play. Our right end jumped. The play should have been blown dead and the ball moved five yards farther from the end zone. Damn, y'all. This crap was 25 years ago. Get over it already. Even if we were ripped off. But we weren't.
@elefantecremisi
@elefantecremisi 9 жыл бұрын
Dang, I can't believe I left out the most important part. PSU is the only team who's been screwed out of more National Championships than Bama. And the parallels between the programs are uncanny. PSU is one of the "good guys". Treat them as such. Not to mention the next and last play of the game was about the stupidest damn call I've ever seen in my life. Toss sweep. I remember it well. Because I lost my mind. If you're in a short situation near the goal, and you're going to run the ball, you need to either pop something quick and strong up the middle (shortest distance between two points always has been, always will be, a straight line), or call a bootleg so the QB has some options. Toss sweep was the worst damn thing you could call. The risk of fumble increases, it's slow developing, and in a short situation like that, the DBs can't beat the DL into the backfield once they see the RB. Especially if there's no receiver in the right corner of the endzone. Because, even on the slightest chance he does throw the ball, I guarantee you a coach is not going to ask a tailback to throw across his body. The whole thing was jacked up.
@lennymo36
@lennymo36 7 жыл бұрын
psu jumped into the neutral zone. your wrong
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 3 жыл бұрын
@@elefantecremisi wrong. If replay had been effect, it would have been a TD. Judgement calls (like offsides, holding, etc) are not reviewable. Catches, goallines, etc are, and it was clearly a TD. Another thing, is the Defense was in the neutral zone at minimum, if not outright touching the offense before, during and after the snap. Today that would be a defensive penalty which would have been declined. So lets throw all that out. At the time, with the rules in play they had, the encroachment/movement call was at most missed. It is a judgement call by the refs. As the guy catching the football had near his whole body inbounds, not just a foot, and the ref was right there, that wasn't a judgement call. That was a Penn State ref calling for Penn State. Hence, everyone and their family knows Alabama was robbed by a Penn State ref.
@Bamafandave3450
@Bamafandave3450 11 жыл бұрын
I still say TD, You can blame the ref on the awful call but Bama did turn the ball over 6 times,It's hard to beat anybody with that many turnovers, All fans must accept that you're going to have questionable calls from time to time, some will go your way and others will favor the other guys, just the way it goes. RTR FOREVER !!!!!!!!!
@AW-zy1kw
@AW-zy1kw 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is a 5 year old comment but you could not be more wrong. Yes they turned the ball over and had no business being in a position to win BUT they were and it was not a bad call, it was a rip off. Everyone in that stadium saw him in-bounds with the ball. Foot, knee and butt all hit inbounds. i still have the dang press clipping with the picture. I saved it because it was and still is the biggest sports ripoff I have ever seen.
@rogerbahakel
@rogerbahakel 12 жыл бұрын
yes we got robbed just like nebraska got robbed the year earlier when the penn state player was clearly out of bounds but the penn state referrees said he was in bounds.and yes did say penn state refs.
@johnlinn9297
@johnlinn9297 3 жыл бұрын
Home cooking refs. Would have been a touchdown and a win for Bama today with replay, and that ref was so wrong he’d never ref again. And he was related to one of the Penn State players.
@denveraic
@denveraic 12 жыл бұрын
Wrong, D in the neutral zone still cannot cause a false start.
@Salvatore1268
@Salvatore1268 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Gumans dad was a ref in that game? How Was that allowed
@teller1290
@teller1290 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle, I think.
@BAMAVADER
@BAMAVADER Жыл бұрын
May be the worst call ever
@theriot5150
@theriot5150 5 жыл бұрын
Yet, lswho fans still complain..
@bigb771
@bigb771 13 жыл бұрын
Alabama won that game. Yes the score was 34-28, but we all know BAMA won that game. Cheap shot reff...cheap and foul.
@TheJpep2424
@TheJpep2424 Жыл бұрын
Clearly in bounds. Bama won.
@rrp1996
@rrp1996 9 ай бұрын
Thar was a TD
@vonskull
@vonskull 12 жыл бұрын
Maybe the referee was showering with Sandusky?
@loyaldude10
@loyaldude10 12 жыл бұрын
same sntiments. and fellow alumnus
@quincee33
@quincee33 11 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Joe Paterno never beat Bear Bryant. And Bear never beat Ara Parseghian. That was a terrible call.... But weren't both teams mediocre in 83?
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 5 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of college football stats and I would have bet your right arm that Paterno had at least 1 win. Interesting. And the Bear was 41-3 against coaches that were not named Ara in the 4 seasons Bear played Ara. And 41-7,otherwise. Damn. Who knew.
@GeorgiaKev
@GeorgiaKev 12 жыл бұрын
Really? I never knew about that.
@TrueElement2011
@TrueElement2011 13 жыл бұрын
I hated that
@jbo_5357
@jbo_5357 12 жыл бұрын
I know # 17 Harry Hamilton and his son
@duaneholcomb8408
@duaneholcomb8408 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest robbery. Ever. Clearly hes in by a a yard. In modern times this would have been over ruled Alabama would and should have won,that game,,,
@buckstraw925
@buckstraw925 9 жыл бұрын
Bama fans need to settle down. Yes it was a catch in the end zone but the Bama tight end moved. The correct call on the play was not a TD but rather an illegal procedure penalty on Bama.
@MaxsGamingHub
@MaxsGamingHub 9 жыл бұрын
Number 99? He is the only one who moved and that is a type of play
@MaxsGamingHub
@MaxsGamingHub 9 жыл бұрын
Maxs Gaming Hub even though he is not a TE, but still.
@buckstraw925
@buckstraw925 9 жыл бұрын
Not the guy in motion, he's fine. The TE on the right side of the line.
@stanleymyrick4068
@stanleymyrick4068 5 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. You can not apply half the rules of today and half the rules of the time it was played. Replay wasn't installed back then and the flinch of the OL due to encroachment wasn't seen. No penalty. Happens all the time back then. The TD however, was seen by millions of people at the time and the referree was standing right on top of it as the Bama player rolled in bounds before falling out of bounds. His involvement with Penn St influenced that call.
@buckstraw925
@buckstraw925 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleymyrick4068 So you want to apply replay for the back of the end zone but you want to ignore the guy moving on the OL. IF the officials got everything right it would have been illegal procedure overuling a legal catch in the back of the end zone. Case closed.
@jmua8450
@jmua8450 7 жыл бұрын
One of the all time screw jobs in officiating.
@billp5656
@billp5656 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute robbery !
@Spider_7_7
@Spider_7_7 12 жыл бұрын
Kerry Goode ran the ball and got stuffed.
@Spider_7_7
@Spider_7_7 10 жыл бұрын
One of the worst calls of all time. Both announcers said it looked like a touchdown to them. Total hose job.
@pggamer3242
@pggamer3242 10 жыл бұрын
I do think there was a false start though
@pggamer3242
@pggamer3242 10 жыл бұрын
If I'm wrong this was definitely a catch
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 7 жыл бұрын
Refs feared the on rush of drunken PSU students.
@bremenrooster
@bremenrooster 6 жыл бұрын
RedElephantStampede so true
@swishagain25
@swishagain25 11 жыл бұрын
The play should have never occurred. PSU jumped into neutral zone, Bama TE flinched, should've been neutral zone infraction on PSU, half the distance to the goal, then play the down
@robjohnson8861
@robjohnson8861 5 жыл бұрын
When the defense is offsides, play continues (free play), correct. With a NZI, the whistle is blown immediately and the penalty is assessed. The whistle was not blown immediately. In terms of instant replay today, offsides (they didn't call NZI) is not a reviewable play, correct. But the no touchdown was a reviewable play. It would have been a touchdown. Bama was robbed.
@stevephillips2740
@stevephillips2740 3 жыл бұрын
Bad call
@ShawnWilliams-s6c
@ShawnWilliams-s6c 9 ай бұрын
I said it then and I'll say it now Bama got cheated he was in all day
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@ashleygriggs7392 Жыл бұрын
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