1983 Porsche 944 Engine

[@Arendeagle]

BEST ENGINE TUTORIAL I'VE SEEN YET! Well done!!!

[@edredas]

Glad you liked it! Thanks!

[@belisioglipet4655]

Real 944 enthusiasts! Great video!

[@charlesreyna5645]

Man I have wateh edredas videos over an over agan. You cant this kind of experience. I learn some thing new every time I view the videos. Keep up The good work. Thank You edredas.

[@happyfox711]

Gotta hand it to you when you're wearing out clutch alignment tools... ✌😎

[@GrayNoob]

Thank you for this video. And this series.

[@jockellis]

That engine was clean beside my 914 1.8. If would make you hurl. It had been sitting so long - 22 years - that I had to cut the cylinders off the pistons due to rusted rings.

[@frankharo4875]

Can you please do a video to replace the engine mount s.

[@happyfox711]

It's a beautiful engine, I've got one myself, hehe. I have an American engine in Europe, unfortunently, but what I wonder is what kind of octane was it running originally, and what do you think about running it on 95 (or 98 for that matter - the higher compression one maybe would like it ?, those two are all the options we got over here) or unleaded at all ?

[@edredas]

Thanks! Our US cars have 91 RON printed inside the fuel door flap which is equivalent our 'regular' 87 AKI octane rating. So 95 octane over there will be fine since it is equivalent to our 'mid-grade' 91 octane. Good luck!

[@silverlbc3342]

Hey Edredas, thank you so much for your vids. Is there any risk to bent a valve on a 951 turbo engine in case the timing belt breaks ? The pistons have a different shape compared to the NA correct ? Thanks again for the vids they are really helping

[@edredas]

Yup, the pistons are a different shape but despite this the valves will still bend if the timing belt breaks. Thanks!

[@silverlbc3342]

edredas thanks for the time spent to answer me ! Got it ! Just bought recently a 951 turbo from 1986, I got a strong squeak coming from alternator or AC compressor, which goes when engine is hot (5/10min of driving) The timing belt was too tight and I couldn’t turn the water pump by hand like on your vids so I loosened a bit the tensioner, but the noise is still here. the accessory belt was also too tight, same, but the noise is still here after startup. By experience, it could be a bearing on the alternator or AC compressor ? How could I check precisely from were it’s coming ? For sure it’s forward driver side in the engine bay Thanks again for your time

[@joelwebb9289]

3 ft lbs=36 inch lbs not 24 and never use an extension when torquing always try and have the socket directly on the torque wrench

[@MrStroller4u]

when doing the balance shafts, is it recommended to do the bearings???

[@edredas]

Absolutely!

[@BlackoutTinting]

What's the part number for the special tool for the crankshaft seal?

[@edredas]

The one I have is something I had laying around that just happens to work. Its a crank pulley gear from an old Cavalier.

[@CasinoMassage]

is the tool you use to set the front crank seal available for purchase?

[@edredas]

I’ve seen them pop up on eBay every now and then. While there are custom tools made for these cars, I have yet to see a simple solution for this seal or the rear main.

[@CasinoMassage]

@@edredas I appreciate your response. I think I’m going to have a shop make a simple solution for the front crank oil seal. If it works, I’ll have them make another and send you one. Is that seal supposed to be seated flush with the case? Or does is it supposed to be pressed in a bit further. I know there are some differing opinions. Your videos have been most helpful in work on an 86 944. Thanks again!

[@edredas]

It just needs to be flush, but a tiny bit farther back wouldn't hurt any. Thanks!

[@rdnakx250]

Very good video. Would rings typically just go in without a hone? Any big deal in changing the main bearings if you had wanted to do that?

[@edredas]

When changing the rings I use Sunnen AN-30 paste to clean up the cylinder walls. The main bearings are easy to change but you must remember to seal the girdle with RTV. I have a few engines I'm working on right now so I'll try to cover this in a video. I hope that helps!

[@rfl35]

Awesome awesome awesome !!!

[@edredas]

Thanks!

[@keithupson5839]

You do rod bearings without checking clearance? I’m about to do mine on my 83 and I don’t know whether to plastigage or not. The internet is torn. Another great video!

[@edredas]

It mostly comes down to a lot of factors. The first factor is that this engine still had the original bearings, so that meant none of the bearings had spun before and an over-sized bearing wasn't used. Also there was no scoring on the crank or bearings what so ever since this was just a preventative measure. If I had seen anything out of the ordinary then I would've checked the clearance just to verify there wasn't any oil starvation, but there were no signs of anything. The only issue that might arise is the bearing is tight around the edges, but you wouldn't see this with a plasti-gauge either. Any wear on the sides of bearings from being a little too tight, while isn't ideal, usually won't cause an issue. If you see anything concerning then it might be worth checking the clearance, and actually I'd almost recommend it if its your first time... I hope that helps!

[@keithupson5839]

edredas Thank you! Everything looks great, but I just got some plastigage.

[@edredas]

Great! You should have no issues then! Good luck!

[@BBox-135]

Do you know of an article or do you have a video the reasoning and benefits behind 6R oil cooler over 5R?

[@edredas]

Bimmer Box shouldn’t be any benefit to the 5R housing since the factory workshop manual states to discard them on sight. Most likely due to seal failure. There is also no kits or instructions for the 5R housings. All kits available are solely for the 6R housing and are not shimmed or installed the same way. I hope that helps!

[@tvguy12346]

Thanks for the video! Is there a reason that you do everything with hand tools and don't use air or cordless tools?

[@edredas]

I've never really thought about it. I do have some air tools but I only use them on the the suspension. I would never use any power tools on the engine since its too easy to strip the aluminum threads or snap old studs when removing bolt/nuts. Care and a little finesse is always needed, especially if the engine has never been taken apart before. So, I just like to take my time and pay attention to how everything feels. You can usually tell when a thread is stripping since it will feel odd and a little loose. I just want to catch any issues before it causes any further damage.

[@tempest411]

Ditto on that. I spent all kinds of money on a compressor and tools only to find out I don't like using air tools on anything. If you can feel a fastener isn't coming out right, you can stop and apply various methods to 'message' it out, preventing damage to the hole or some other worse headache.

[@everardoacuna3844]

Which prv valve did you use

[@autoraysgarage8938]

Great video as always...Where can i get a similar tool at that you used to install the front main seal?

[@edredas]

The tool that I have is a crank pulley mounting hub from a 2.2 cavalier engine. It just happens to work perfectly so I painted it black and kept it around. There's one on ebay for about $12 right now, or you could go to your local junkyard and look around. You might find something similar! I hope that helps!

[@autoraysgarage8938]

Thanks i found the one on ebay but $12 plus $9 shipping i'll be going to my local junk yard i know there plenty of cavalier sitting around

[@edredas]

Yeah, after I typed that I noticed the $9 shipping... but you should be able to pick one of these up for a few bucks. Good Luck!

[@rdnakx250]

One mystery I cant get to the bottom of is front coil springs. New stock are not available and aftermarket are in a bunch of different spring rates. What do you recommend for a daily driver 944? Spacer or no spacer?

[@edredas]

Usually, the softer the spring the better for daily driving. I believe the stock springs are 175 lbs but if you like a more sporty feel then 200 lb springs are pretty good but will lower the car about an inch. If you aren't looking to lower the car then you could always run a spacer to raise it back up but I personally like the car a bit lower. I hope that helps!

[@jamesharris384]

Looks 👍

[@thedealer8936]

Thanks for posting this video! It makes me miss the 924S and 944 I used to have. I found your channel about a week ago and I have watched most of your videos since. I noticed that most of the seals and gaskets you put on dry when rebuilding your engine. Are there any seals that you do put RTV or some other sealant on? Thanks!

[@edredas]

Hey, thanks for watching! I only use RTV on the crank girdle but other than that I use anaerobic gasket maker on the balance-shaft covers and oil pump where there are no gaskets. That said, it is not needed when replacing any new seals or gaskets and only makes a huge mess that you have to clean up next time. I know a lot of people like to use it as extra insurance but most of the time I only find RTV when someone is trying fix a leak without replacing the seal or gasket. Many times this only makes a mess and does nothing to stop the leak. I hope that helps!

[@tempest411]

How do you like the Permatex Anaerobic Sealer compared to the OE recommended Loctite 574?

[@edredas]

It's just something I'm trying out, and as with anything it has its pros and cons. One of the things I like about the Permatex and the main reason I'm trying it out is because it is easy to remove. All you have to do is remove the cover and its basically a rubber gasket that you wipe off once it cures. The Loctite on the other hand dries hard and requires a lot of force to break the cover off once cured. Not to mention it almost impossible to remove without machining or chiseling which can damage the housing, so I wanted to find an alternative.

[@DraGon-cg6ge]

How many km will pass to repair the engine rebuild ?

[@edredas]

They'll practically go forever. This car had over 300k km on the engine and was still in perfect shape. The owner just elected to have the engine pulled and rebuilt.

[@DraGon-cg6ge]

@@edredas ok prices ?

[@edredas]

Are you asking how much for me to rebuild an engine? Where are you located? In some cases it can cost up to $4 thousand US Dollars.

[@DraGon-cg6ge]

@@edredas I have not bought yet 944

[@DraGon-cg6ge]

How much can this motor drive for km?

[@jackofalltrades8933]

What are the best sparkplugs to run in the 944

[@edredas]

Any copper plugs will be fine but I think most people tend to agree that the copper NGK BPR6ES are the best and is what I always install in the N/A cars! I hope that helps!

[@jackofalltrades8933]

It does thanks

[@scottfaivre272]

Love it! Another cool video! Who are your vendors of choice? I buy from a plethora of places online. Just wondering if you know of a few great vendors I haven't heard of yet.

[@edredas]

Thanks! Occasionally I find deals on other websites but 99% of everything I buy for these cars is from Pelican. I will sometimes buy my reference sensors from Autohaus, but for the most part I try to order everything from one vendor. It makes it easier to keep track of orders and sometimes you can get a discount on shipping if you have a large order. That said, when it comes to used parts I have my own parts cars, but will often use ebay or text one of the breakers if its something I don't have. I hope that helps!

[@scottfaivre272]

Cool! Thanks!

[@Kyranio]

I love these cars. Very cool video! Where do you get your new parts for your engine(s)?

[@edredas]

Thanks! I buy almost everything from Pelican Parts. I hope that helps!

[@miguelcastaneda7236]

theres a defect in fuel Rail dealership will fix it free if it hasnt already been done was a recall from factory or as they call them a campaing

[@Chimpyboi]

Another excellent video! No valve job this time around?

[@edredas]

I'm actually using the head I refreshed in that video. I will eventually rebuild this head but for now it was easier to swap another head on since its already rebuilt and just sitting around. The other day I pulled an '86 engine and got it on a stand. This head also has bent valves so I will be making a video on changing them soon. Thanks!

[@Chimpyboi]

Nice!

[@CañonAlonso]

Once I bent valves too, very expensive. Thx for sharing.

[@tempest411]

@@edredas 944s and bent valves go together like peanut butter and jelly.

[@TakeFlightGarage]

What's your estimate for labor on a job like this?

[@edredas]

Our engine rebuilds start at $4800.This is one here is our lowest tier rebuild which just consists of the engine being de-greased, then having all the seals and gaskets replaced. Our highest tier rebuilds have the engine vapor blasted and all the hardware re-plated which leaves the engine looking like the day it left the factory. You can find some examples of those in my other videos. Thanks!

[@dustinabram5239]

Where do you order your parts from?

[@edredas]

I order about 90% of my parts from pelicanparts.com. Thanks!

[@dustinabram5239]

@@edredas Thanks. I like pelican. I wish they had blown up schematics of the engines. I'm rebuilding the bottom end of my 951. I want to do most of the same seals/gaskets as you. But don't always know the part number or name of the part.

[@DraGon-cg6ge]

km ?

[@quickturn66]

The cat isn’t showing much interest.

[@happyfox711]

Same one a little later, shrinked and with more valves - is it not? 200+ hp on a stock (turbo) 1.8 litre... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqaVkpeQhMZmqM0

[@vmjr748]

Great work but you move too much.

[@edredas]

Thanks, well a lot of times I work alone with camera on the tripod and it seems cold and boring. With it on the tripod you can't really get the camera in there to show any depth. So when I do get the chance to hold the camera I want to show things that someone might want to see if they were actually standing there. I'll try to slow it down a bit though.

[@airmech404]

What the hell is wrong with you?! A properly painted engine sheds oil and grease easier because it's NOT as porous as the cast aluminum!

[@edredas]

How many people properly paint their engines? Most just use a rattle can, which is not the correct/proper way to paint an engine. This engine had a terrible rattle can job so the paint had more oil on it than it normally would. If this was sprayed with a smoother/thinner catalyst paint from a gun then I would image that the outcome would have been different. However, that wasn't the case and the oil soaked through it, so why bother? It doesn't look good.