1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo Convertible | Retro Review

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@dougyork9112
@dougyork9112 4 жыл бұрын
The driver trying to keep it straight during the 1/4 mile run had me LOL
@RCFiddyOne
@RCFiddyOne 7 жыл бұрын
Those standard issue Pontiac wheels bring back memories.
@fernandorocha6486
@fernandorocha6486 5 жыл бұрын
I love this Sunbird Turbo 1985, 1986, 1987 and 1987 is my year favorite
@HowardDaduk
@HowardDaduk 7 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, when you bought a J-body, after you signed the papers and they handed you the keys, your salesman was instructed to inform you that the bottoms of the doors were already beginning to rust.
@brettcannon74
@brettcannon74 6 жыл бұрын
Faux Craig Singhaus our cimarron did that on the driver's rear door, and it had been rustproofed after 7 yrs!
@HowardDaduk
@HowardDaduk 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, Cimarron, Cavalier, Sunbird, etc, it didn't matter..they all rusted there. I'm not sure if it was a flaw in design (Allowing poor drainage), weak metal or bad welds. Perhaps all 3.
@EddieJorgeDrummer
@EddieJorgeDrummer 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. I owned 2. Rust buckets. But my 2003 was bullet proof in terms of engine and trans
@stephentodd4345
@stephentodd4345 4 жыл бұрын
Good old Tennessee not a single rust spot 😭
@fernandorocha-dx1wv
@fernandorocha-dx1wv 5 ай бұрын
@@EddieJorgeDrummer Pontiac Sunbird, Cimarron and Cavalier is rusted there easy
@knockersgarage7561
@knockersgarage7561 7 жыл бұрын
My Aunt had this exact car. First motor threw a rod at 16,000 miles. Then a Turbo at 23,000 miles. Traded it on a Tempo......which was slightly worse lol.
@jasoncrandall73
@jasoncrandall73 6 жыл бұрын
Yea them Tempos. My parents had 2- '88 light Blue - dad totalled it within a year or so. '92 Red - engine was worn out around 120k. Power controls went out on all 4 doors. Parents just fixed the driver's door one.
@jeffmorse645
@jeffmorse645 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people were slow to learn to buy Japanese (Toyota and Honda in particularly) if they didn't want headaches.
@halohunter5217
@halohunter5217 4 жыл бұрын
My 93 Tempo had 178k when I sold it and was doing fine. It did eat tie rod ends though. I drove the crap out of it too, it was my first car.
@jeffmorse645
@jeffmorse645 4 жыл бұрын
@@halohunter5217 My parents bought an '89 Mercury Topaz the same year I bought an '89 Honda Accord. There was no comparison. It seem like the Flintstone's car compared to my Accord - but dad wanted to buy a Ford product for some reason.
@dougkay3666
@dougkay3666 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Morse ...I’ll take headaches anyway over buying foreign crap which I have and had problems with. Which now American cars are up to par over foreign!
@mcqueenfanman
@mcqueenfanman 7 жыл бұрын
That's the engine they should have put into the Fiero.
@McBeamer94
@McBeamer94 7 жыл бұрын
mcqueenfanman I don't think so! The 2.8 V6 sounds better and, as MW said back in the day, it has smooth power delivery!
@kgarba9253
@kgarba9253 7 жыл бұрын
Quad 4
@mcqueenfanman
@mcqueenfanman 7 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would you make a sports car and put a heavy push rod 4 or v6 in it? Who knows what the turbo ohc 4 would sound like with a good exhaust.
@mcqueenfanman
@mcqueenfanman 7 жыл бұрын
No quad 4 in 84-85, I'm thinking of engines they have installed in retime. The quad came out in 87-88 era.
@McBeamer94
@McBeamer94 7 жыл бұрын
mcqueenfanman I don't know, maybe for keeping the costs down due to simple technology, but the job was done! Also, an NA V6 always sounds better than a Turbo-4!
@DavidAndre657
@DavidAndre657 7 жыл бұрын
The 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo Convertible, "with the top down, it's one of the best looking of Detroit's new wave of convertibles." Yeah, we said that.
@atomsmash100
@atomsmash100 5 жыл бұрын
In '85 it actually wasn't too bad
@fernandorocha8459
@fernandorocha8459 2 жыл бұрын
Pontiac Sunbird Turbo Convertible is beautifull and durable car
@sailordave1000
@sailordave1000 7 жыл бұрын
My second car was a 1984 Buick Skyhawk with 2.0L OHV engine and 4 speed manual transmission. It was maybe 86 HP but the car was light and quick compared to other cars at the time. The turbo time could have been better but they were horrible for turbo lag followed by neck snapping acceleration. It also didn’t have an intercooler. The torque steer tried to yank the steering wheel away from the driver. The good thing was once up to top gear it could easily accelerate for passing at highway speeds, something the non-turbo cars could barely do. While 10 seconds seems slow, performance cars were around 7 to 8 seconds for 0-60 in those years so an economy class compact at that rate was pretty good.
@Skyhawk1987Turbo
@Skyhawk1987Turbo 7 жыл бұрын
Finally a j car test! Loved these cars
@HoosierDaddy_
@HoosierDaddy_ 7 жыл бұрын
Brute force of 150hp! What a beast! Love these reviews!
@floridaroadways
@floridaroadways Жыл бұрын
135hp
@cadsux
@cadsux 7 жыл бұрын
150 hp from a 1.8L turbo 4 isn't bad, considering the 1985 Firebird's base 2.5L turbo 4 had 88hp; 2.8L V6 had 135hp, and the 5.0L V8 options were 165hp , 190hp & 305hp
@techmaven5900
@techmaven5900 7 жыл бұрын
All true, but most idiots that comment here will just ignore those facts...The 1980's was not a decade for big power.
@DJPenguino51
@DJPenguino51 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. Since the national speed limit in those days was 55 on freeways and rural highways, automakers were in no rush to make more powerful vehicles.
@scott9050
@scott9050 7 жыл бұрын
Except for the GNX American cars were slow compared to now for sure.
@ragingbull94mtx
@ragingbull94mtx 7 жыл бұрын
LB9 had 205hp... if it was 305hp, I'd buy one now lol
@McBeamer94
@McBeamer94 7 жыл бұрын
cadsux 2.5 turbo and only 88hp??? Really???
@thevintageaudiolife
@thevintageaudiolife 11 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1986 Sunbird Turbo, four door sedan, black on gray. I kept that car Immaculate, with upgraded Polk Audio speakers. My first love, and yes it was a fun car to drive!, just popped in my home mix cassette and off to work i went!
@jamesbensch6
@jamesbensch6 7 жыл бұрын
My neighbour still has one of these. It's a white convertible. It's mint too
@jamesbensch6
@jamesbensch6 7 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump is Affirmative Action for the GOP I could definitely see that. The name Sunbird is much more feminine too
@atomsmash100
@atomsmash100 4 жыл бұрын
For the mid 80s this was a good looking and fun car. I rented one or two when on vacation in Florida, always fun.
@cvtechreview
@cvtechreview 2 жыл бұрын
Love these retro reviews. I've been watching a lot lately.
@bailorg
@bailorg 7 жыл бұрын
Those are some sweet Nikes worn by the driver
@vollste
@vollste 4 жыл бұрын
I had same shoes, but were tan with a brown swoosh.
@loron99
@loron99 3 жыл бұрын
I had a red 1994 sunfire se with the same two tone gray interior I loved that car, great throwback video, keep on putting out quality material motorweek
@TheKelzer
@TheKelzer 7 жыл бұрын
My Step-mom had one when I was in high school. It was a GREAT car to take to Palm Springs for spring break....chicks dug it! Only problem I had was the turbo blew up going 60mph on the freeway, with the cruise control on.....warranty fix though. A GREAT car !
@thinkeightsix
@thinkeightsix 7 жыл бұрын
First car was an '87 Pontiac Sunbird SE. Planted my impression of all Pontiacs.
@sailordave1000
@sailordave1000 7 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Motorweek rest video of the Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 with the V6 engine to compare the two cars. Both are the same except one is a turbo 4 and the other is a V6.
@tommytufguy3432
@tommytufguy3432 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 91 Sunbird Coupe with the 3.1 and 5 speed. I loved that car, seemed fast to me at the time.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 3 жыл бұрын
@@tommytufguy3432 140 hp with the 3.1 which wasn't bad on the light car.
@smithraymond09029
@smithraymond09029 3 жыл бұрын
I had forgotten all about the Sunbird. I haven't seen one on the road in about 10 years.
@rfaradiofreeamerica8392
@rfaradiofreeamerica8392 3 жыл бұрын
The J car Sunbird had Improved by 85. The Turbo engine made it fairly quick and fun . It looked good as well. If you changed the oil every 3k miles you might squeeze 75k miles out of the original Turbo and motor but some had issues with rods, bearings etc. BUT , compared to many other cheapish turbo 4s at the time they weren't that bad overall. Younger owners often drove them hard and neglected the "2-3 minute cool down time" that turbos required before shutting the engine down after spirited driving. The Sunbird GTs were actually cool little cars then and now.
@Kingsoupturbo
@Kingsoupturbo 7 жыл бұрын
They were sharp looking cars back in the day, 150hp turbo 1.8 was outlandish in 85 for an american car that didn't weigh much, and even decent handling! they snuck that car past the corporate bean counters at GM somehow!
@pmvaldez1
@pmvaldez1 6 жыл бұрын
Carl Ryan 150 HP out of a 1.8l engine in a car that small is hardly pathetic.
@jefferysmith3930
@jefferysmith3930 Жыл бұрын
Back when these were new there was a copper example with matching copper/gray interior that could often be seen parked top down under the detailing canopy of a local car wash my parents would frequent. My guess is it belonged to the owner. Lovely car and a great color combo
@jimcameron9848
@jimcameron9848 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, what memories. I remember getting the heat cap of my hemmi sucked off in the backseat in this freebird.
@greekguytalks
@greekguytalks 11 ай бұрын
you sold me at the smartest looking....where do I buy one for 40k in today's money
@skillz1855
@skillz1855 2 жыл бұрын
I still have this car. I rebuilt the engine, turbo and auto transmission. Needs a fuel pump now but everything works with custom paint and slightly wider wheels/tires. Everyone asks me is that a Mustang. I say Nawh man! It's a pontiac
@NYPATRIOTBX
@NYPATRIOTBX 7 жыл бұрын
A sad era in GM history, by the time I was in high school you didn’t see many of these around.
@knowbodiesfull5768
@knowbodiesfull5768 6 жыл бұрын
NYPATRIOT If - and that's a big *IF* you see any of these today, it's likely at a car show.
@terryadams2652
@terryadams2652 3 жыл бұрын
NY, yup, that's because American cars are JUNK. Japanese vehicles (especially pickups) run forever, like 1 MILLION+ miles, it's on youtube (Nissan & Toyota). Buy an American car ONLY if you hate yourself.
@tonycraib5939
@tonycraib5939 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a little girls Barbie dolls car
@authenticmax6350
@authenticmax6350 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Motorweek, when is the next Retro Marathon ?! Looking forward to another Retro Marathon. Thanks.
@rogergoodman8665
@rogergoodman8665 5 жыл бұрын
150 brutal horsepower! A fast 0-60 in 10 seconds! My neck hurts just thinking about that kind of performance!
@danmccarthy4700
@danmccarthy4700 7 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes me wish it were mid-May instead of mid-December.
@Skyhawk1987Turbo
@Skyhawk1987Turbo 7 жыл бұрын
I've owned several j cars and never once had an issue
@doctorzaius4084
@doctorzaius4084 7 жыл бұрын
That's funny, I owned one j car and had several issues!
@man_on_wheelz
@man_on_wheelz 6 жыл бұрын
Ohhh your name is Skyhawk1987Turbo so I'm assuming that's what you drive right? My moms first car was a 1986 Skyhawk she bought in 1996. As a kid I thought that car was so cool. It wasn't turbo'ed or anything just a regular navy blue sedan, brings back memories. Sadly no one I've talked to has even heard of the car and I certainly don't recall seeing any driving around the Chicagoland area since around the time she got rid of hers.
@Skyhawk1987Turbo
@Skyhawk1987Turbo 6 жыл бұрын
MAN_ON_WHEELZ sadly I sold it years ago and shouldn't have as I've been on the hunt for years to find a decent 2 door Skyhawk. I've own 2 limited sans 2 customs in the early 90's when you could find these cars for sale.
@man_on_wheelz
@man_on_wheelz 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah this ain't gonna be an easy car to find these days. Most people who owned them weren't car enthusiasts and they weren't cars that car enthusiast sought after to try and preserve. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the car has landed on the endangered list.
@shaunbeasley123
@shaunbeasley123 6 жыл бұрын
Skyhawk1987Turbo head gaskets all I'm gonna say
@vinzclortho7766
@vinzclortho7766 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea they put a turbo in these. I also see from the comments as to why i dont see them anymore, but you can say that about a lot of 80s cars.
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 4 жыл бұрын
Wow to think that 1.8L SOHC turbo motor made 150hp back then which is the same as many Audi/VW models like the TT with the same displacement what, 25 years later? Interesting that it was made in Brazil too. Never knew that
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 4 жыл бұрын
Ford's 2.3 turbo from the mustang, merkur and thunderbird were also Brazilian made
@optimistichorizon
@optimistichorizon 7 жыл бұрын
0-60 in ten seconds is fast? What was slow in 1985, 16 seconds to 60 mph?
@kz1000ps
@kz1000ps 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. 10 seconds maybe wasn't fast but it was midpack for the times.
@DJPenguino51
@DJPenguino51 7 жыл бұрын
The non turbo was probably closer to 16 seconds 0-60. The 4 cylinder mustang (non turbo / SVO) of the same year was also dog slow. 10 seconds was definitely middle of the road. Take in mind the speed limits at the time were lower than now (55 on freeways, rural highways and so on).
@optimistichorizon
@optimistichorizon 7 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Bradley I remember, I was 6 or 7 depending on the month. Thank God it isn't that way now.
@optimistichorizon
@optimistichorizon 7 жыл бұрын
CareerFireman That's still respectable today. My Corrola S Plus with a six speed manual is 0-60 in 8.5 seconds. 4.5 to 6.5 seconds is ideal.
@optimistichorizon
@optimistichorizon 7 жыл бұрын
CareerFireman Agreed. But how much money do you need to speed to get to a 0-60mph in 4.5 seconds? 60k or more?
@ThrowingShade
@ThrowingShade 4 жыл бұрын
Check out those classic Nikes at 2:18.. I had those too.
@ohguy1991
@ohguy1991 7 жыл бұрын
Oh those wire wheel covers and white walls on the opening scene car. Thank God those days are over!
7 жыл бұрын
GM's styling review board were all 80+ year old accountants at the time, this car was typical mid 80's GM.
@ohguy1991
@ohguy1991 7 жыл бұрын
I remember it well, I was a teen in the 80's
@knowbodiesfull5768
@knowbodiesfull5768 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think I want to go back there. Wire wheels and whitewalls died with breakdancing.
@metalman2585
@metalman2585 4 жыл бұрын
My brother had an 84. Sunbird. Non turbo. 2.0. Engine. It was fast. You could light it up. From a dead stop!!!!
@PistonJunkeez302
@PistonJunkeez302 7 жыл бұрын
I love MW Retro, reason why I’m subscribed!!
@Joe-wyo
@Joe-wyo 5 жыл бұрын
Had a 1985 sunbird wagon in high school with the non turbo 1.8L 4cyl and the 3 speed auto. Wasnt a bad car. Just had to keep the tool box in the back seat with an extra CO2 and map sensor tho lol. Those things went out constantly. How i miss that car lmao
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 7 жыл бұрын
I had a 3 speed auto turbo that would spin shifting to 2nd on wet road.
@finecorinthianvideos
@finecorinthianvideos 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had one like that same color but it was a coupe
@louisbabycos106
@louisbabycos106 2 жыл бұрын
That's the engine that should have been in the cimnaron by Cadillac at the start .
@frankburns8871
@frankburns8871 6 жыл бұрын
It was a good-looking, quick (for the mid-80s), well equipped convertible for a pretty low price. Sure, it had cheap interior and sloppy fit and finish, but that's how they kept the price low. And I don't know about this particular car, but I had a couple of 80s Cavaliers and they were perfectly reliable. I don't get the hate for these at all.
@spod2998
@spod2998 2 жыл бұрын
Most people hate the turbo ones because of the oiling issues. You had to change the oil rather frequently and make sure that after highway driving you idled the engine for 2-3 mins to cool down the oil.
@landyachtfan79
@landyachtfan79 3 жыл бұрын
1:46............. I would love to see the RR of the Turbo sedan you tested, as well.
@dcanmore
@dcanmore 6 жыл бұрын
that was a pretty good Opel-designed engine, first used in the Opel Manta B and Opel Ascona in 1982, then 1983 in NA market (Brazilian made).
@fernandorocha8459
@fernandorocha8459 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Brazil is Chevrolet Monza, USA chevy Cavalier, Oldsmoblie Firenza, Pontiac Sunbird, Cadillac Cimarron and Buick Skyhawk
@iAmCodeMonkey
@iAmCodeMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
My mother had a 1990 Sunbird coupe. 4 years later (owned from new) she replaced it with a Nissan Altima GXE when the head gasket blew.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 4 жыл бұрын
And I'll assume that the altima was bullet proof
@MsPepperbelly
@MsPepperbelly 4 жыл бұрын
Watching MotorWeek brings back good memories but watching them now I keep being reminded that they were way too complimentary of the vehicles they tested, too quick to make excuses for their shortcomings and too impressed by the features and performance of the vehicles. Granted this was the 80s but they made no reference to the fact that the cars were good or bad by comparison to the industry standard at the time. Also, they were inconsistent in what they considered powerful or deemed high performance in several categories. Add to that the concern for evaluating the turning radius or passing speed was hard to comprehend. All in all, I watch it for nostalgia's sake.
@chrislemaster2695
@chrislemaster2695 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could stuff a Buick 231 3800 3.8L Supercharged Series II or III?
@RocketFast321
@RocketFast321 7 жыл бұрын
The last sunbird with a 3.1 and 5-speed
@joelakers9234
@joelakers9234 7 жыл бұрын
my favorite car
@briteidea08
@briteidea08 7 жыл бұрын
You really ade good use of Bonita ave.
@s130boi9
@s130boi9 6 жыл бұрын
150hp and a 10 second 0 to 60 on a turbo 4.... We've come a long way lol
@Dave7160
@Dave7160 7 жыл бұрын
These cars are super are in two tone or 3 tone colour versions hatch sedan and convertible even the Rally Sport Cavalier and Z-24 same with the Sunbird GT sedan and limited editions of each were made, if you people see one of these buy it before their all gone.
@TheBeefSlayer
@TheBeefSlayer Жыл бұрын
I rode back seat in one of these for over 700 miles in one trip before.
@britishsecretagent0078
@britishsecretagent0078 Жыл бұрын
Pre ABS was real scary during panic stops😳
@777jones
@777jones 7 жыл бұрын
Ah the J-body. To be honest.... this over-100hp car was a fiery beast of the 1980s. A brazilian-made engine. It makes one nervous just watching it run.
@TheSimonhammond
@TheSimonhammond 2 жыл бұрын
Wish our Euroepean J- body Cavalier/Ascona had the American styling.
@runoflife87
@runoflife87 2 жыл бұрын
Why? You miss this cheap plastic front end and ugly sealed beams? The Cavalier convertible was pretty good looking.
@vs800rider
@vs800rider 7 жыл бұрын
This was NOT the good old days for cars. There is no wonder that American cars from this era are mostly crushed by now.
@toyoscio
@toyoscio 7 жыл бұрын
Antwon Jenkins Lol, In salt belt states, Japanese or American, many of these 80s cars are gone, thanks to rust
@rickjames9507
@rickjames9507 4 жыл бұрын
Well made convertible" 😂😂 Spirited" 😂😂. I love it.
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how bad American cars used to be! LOL I remember them first hand too. The thing is I had a 1985 Honda Prelude 2.0si and that little things was sweet, so it wasn't all cars that were crap back then.
@antfbi
@antfbi 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe there was a time where 10 seconds 0-60 was reasonably fast. 6 seconds today is the norm
@toughmanrandysavage3077
@toughmanrandysavage3077 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a lot of hp for a engine of the time.
@rossbynum7495
@rossbynum7495 5 жыл бұрын
This review proves that MotorWeek could find something positive to say about literally anything. And, also...GM was importing a Brazilian-made engine for this? My god. Who was running their supply chain? Why???
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 4 жыл бұрын
Even the Mustang SVO had a Brazilian made engine
@scott9050
@scott9050 7 жыл бұрын
made the mistake of buying a 93 Sunbird new off the dealer lot, was the worst car new or used I have ever owned.
@Stressless2023
@Stressless2023 7 жыл бұрын
My oldest brother had a brand new '93 Sunbird GT with the flip-up headlights and it was pretty cool looking at the time (he really wanted the new Ford Probe GT but they were high demand and dealers were marking them up)... But I remember the dashboard starting to warp and curl up before it was even a year old lol. The radio was the weirdest design in a car that I had ever seen too.
@walterwidmaieriii7776
@walterwidmaieriii7776 6 жыл бұрын
scott9050 I bought a 1994 vert off the lot new. 24 years later, still have it. white interior 130,000 miles. love it
@shaunbeasley123
@shaunbeasley123 6 жыл бұрын
I had two ! why because I didn't learn my lesson the first time , first one blown head gasket the second one well the trans went crunchy wouldn't take reverse with engine running and the top got stuck down so I park it and let mother nature take over got a nice pecan tree out off the deal though !
@richardunicorn7879
@richardunicorn7879 6 жыл бұрын
. I like these. They look cool.
@razcue1
@razcue1 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 1984 one of these. 16.5 k out the door. Head gasket blown twice by 25 k miles. Fun p.o.s., though!
@josemontano7767
@josemontano7767 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could buy one today
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 7 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that now a days something like this cost upwards of $35,000. I wish we could get cars like this again. It's fun, it's pretty, and was fairly low cost in its day. Though this car is gray inside, back then we could still get interiors in colors. Now we have, black, gray and if you pay more beige mixed with black. As well, the nice velour upholstery in this Sun Bird is no more. Upholstery materials now, leather, faux leather, and fabrics something like the tongue of running shoes. YUK! I wonder, have we lost that much "Art" in our culture that ugly is now acceptable? How sad.
@RoadCone411
@RoadCone411 4 жыл бұрын
discerningmind I don’t mean to be rude, but NO. J-cars were uncompetitive and poorly made, with trashy plastic interiors and terrible attention to detail. American cars were always at the bottom of the reliability surveys, and a “high-performance” turbo engine made in Brazil probably wasn’t going to make people jealous of its durability. This car was a niche model but it wasn’t great. John is talking about 150hp like it was really something - maybe it was in an American-made economy car in 1985 - but it was typical GM in that it was mated to the wrong transmission choices. I happen to have a soft spot for cars from the 1980s as I grew up with them, but J-cars didn’t age well. Not the worst cars from the decade but there were certainly better cars available both domestic and import. GM vehicles today may not sell in volume like they did in the 1980s, and there may still be one or two turds in the lineup, but they are much better and more competitive.
@Lousybarber
@Lousybarber 6 жыл бұрын
The 1.8 liter four banger. My wife had an '85 Buick Skyhawk with that engine. It was noisy and problem plagued. Had issues with the front suspension also. Had a ball joint failure before 50,000 miles. My mechanic told me the suspension was chintzy. The trunk leaked from day one and the paint was awful. A real piece of junk considering how much it cost.
@alexvieira7945
@alexvieira7945 7 жыл бұрын
2000 Celica review please!
@madtechrecreation8405
@madtechrecreation8405 7 жыл бұрын
Head gaskets anyone?
@Airwolf2030
@Airwolf2030 7 жыл бұрын
their is another pontiac model like this with the same/simpler body style but the design is slightly different including the interior and it was sedan with black paint and a spoiler I forgot the name though >3
@Sandor68
@Sandor68 7 жыл бұрын
AirRookie I believe you're thinking of the Buick Skyhawk. It was built on the same platform and offered the same engine's. It was a smoother looking car all-round.
@Airwolf2030
@Airwolf2030 7 жыл бұрын
I just remembered, it was the 1986 Pontiac 6000
@hnnotyy
@hnnotyy 7 жыл бұрын
Great car.
@MysteryWolph
@MysteryWolph 7 жыл бұрын
Lots of hate for these on here. I'm not saying they were the best ever, but it was the 80's, and these were NOT top end. 1: 150 horses in 1985 was pretty good. My 88 Olds with a 3.8 only made 165ish, and THAT was cinsidered "generous" at the time for an NA V6. They were still trying to work with the fuel economy and emissions standards, and hadn't come up with the technology to squeeze more out of engines while meeting the requirements yet. 2. 0-60 in 10 seconds, again, for that time and a car in that segment in the 80's isn't that bad. 3. There were WORSE cars than this. Slower, more cheaply made (though these weren't great in many ways), and far uglier. Think Chevy Citation/Phoenix, Chevette/600, Sprint. All worse than the better-by-comparison J-bodies. So, not the best, but for the time, middle of the road, affordable throw away cars.
@MysteryWolph
@MysteryWolph 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, if you think these were weak and cheap looking, look up an 85 Mustang with the base engine. See? 80's.
7 жыл бұрын
These cost as much as a Mustang GT at the time that would run circles around it.
@MysteryWolph
@MysteryWolph 7 жыл бұрын
I have to say, yes. For reliability and longevity, at least. Horsepower? Not that much different at the time (still had to have the US mandated emissions goodies). But the Japanese imports of the 80's? Yeah, way better made than the middle class American cars of the time. The big three should have been taking notes.
@GyroPyro121212
@GyroPyro121212 6 жыл бұрын
MysteryWolph What a lot of people don’t realize is that Motorweek acceleration figures tend to be a few tenths behind the competition. They don’t shift their test vehicles particularly fast, perhaps so not to cause undue wear on them before returning them to the manufacturers/owners. That said, one could reasonably expect high 8 to low 9 second 0-60 mph times from a car such as this. 1/4 mile times in the low 16 second range would not be unreasonable for a seasoned driver who is not concerned with saving some wear and tear.
@k_zildjian4460
@k_zildjian4460 7 жыл бұрын
I used to watch this show just so I could hear the theme music.
@brixtonwa
@brixtonwa 7 жыл бұрын
Please post a retro review on the 2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK 430 convertible.
@rhull3939
@rhull3939 7 жыл бұрын
Brute force of 150 hp!
@VectraQS
@VectraQS 7 ай бұрын
I'm about to buy a 1983 N/A Sunbird convertible, wish me luck. Update: oops, its mine now.
@seanshafer2253
@seanshafer2253 3 жыл бұрын
Had one of these, went through 3 turbos in 35K
@ralphl7643
@ralphl7643 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 84 turbo. Went through 2 clutches in 4 years and 43k, sold it to my brother, and he blew the turbo within a year. He liked the car but instead of fixing it, he traded it for a nicer radio on a Honda Civic.
@mikemoon5077
@mikemoon5077 2 жыл бұрын
Put well over 100k on mine and it was still going when I parked it
@E46_Lenker
@E46_Lenker 7 жыл бұрын
Nice
@louisbabycos106
@louisbabycos106 Жыл бұрын
Imagine this power teain debuting in the 1982 Cadillac cimmaron?
@gera117
@gera117 6 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the Cavalier Z24 v6 review
@pl5624
@pl5624 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of 1.8 opel head gaskets sold in the late 80s....
@FirebirdDude
@FirebirdDude 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome car!
@kz1000ps
@kz1000ps 7 жыл бұрын
Why is the body sitting so high on the wheels? Was it sprung THAT softly? It looks super dorky
@dakotacoon72
@dakotacoon72 5 жыл бұрын
The base price when adjusted for inflation is 28000; as tested 36000!
@BennysBenz
@BennysBenz 7 жыл бұрын
Brazilian made?
@GalFatal-nx1nk
@GalFatal-nx1nk 7 жыл бұрын
BennysBenz yes, in Brazil we had our own j car, the Chevrolet Monza, and we exported turbo engines for chevy america at the time. Ford and Fiat here did the same back in the 80s-90s.
@fernandorocha8459
@fernandorocha8459 2 жыл бұрын
@@GalFatal-nx1nk yeah
@garbage854
@garbage854 4 жыл бұрын
Cool Car 😀
@bobwalsh3751
@bobwalsh3751 7 жыл бұрын
That was the BEST looking?!
@MyCatInABox
@MyCatInABox 10 ай бұрын
No intercooler, but 150hp in a coupe ain't bad at all for that time period
@harrycallahan9733
@harrycallahan9733 5 жыл бұрын
1:50 "Wildly impressed about everything", about a Cavalier that's for the birds? Has MotorWeek ever met a car that they didn't like? :)
@RoadCone411
@RoadCone411 4 жыл бұрын
The 1982 Pontiac T1000
@briq4409
@briq4409 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god on the slalom course the window was down. The driver would have smashed it with his huge head he seemed to think he needed to use to help bring the car around the cones.
@askjeevescosby2928
@askjeevescosby2928 Жыл бұрын
If this was rear wheel drive it would be a great car
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 7 жыл бұрын
My dad had a 92 or maybe it was a 94?
@rizzlerazzleuno4733
@rizzlerazzleuno4733 5 жыл бұрын
Well, sports fans................this was the mid-eighties. Nice to see you can find in an affordable convertible with a back seat in 2019. The Mustang, Camaro, last of the Beetle, and Mini are available with a drop top, rear seat (of sorts) and affordable in 2019. Biggest problem with J cars was built quality, cheap suspension, body rust and engines prone to early failure.................gee, what else could go wrong? These J cars of any sort are mighty rare in 2019. No great loss, but always a shock to see one on the road or at a car show. MotorWeek brings us the joy at laughing at what was. The Sunbird continued to evolve (and improve some) up through the 1994 model, and then became the Sunfire in 1995. Ugh. Thanks for the fun, MotorWeek.
@dvamateur
@dvamateur 6 жыл бұрын
It's an Opel Ascona. Is that an attempt to bring European car to U.S.?
@jesseraina1614
@jesseraina1614 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Chevrolet would bring back the Cavaliers and or sun fires under Chevy and give it a small quick turbo 4cyl and keep the car basic and cheap. They were cool fun decent looking good on gas and very affordable for all ages and all incomes
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 4 жыл бұрын
They should of developed their turbo engines more for the 90s
@michaelcoffey7362
@michaelcoffey7362 2 жыл бұрын
Cool 😀
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