1987 James Hardie 1000 - Glenn Seton in the Wet

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Another classic moment from the 1987 Great Race at Mount Panorama Bathurst. Glenn Seton behind the wheel of the Peter Jackson DR30 Nissan Skyline turbo in what would be the first sight of rain during the day. Despite the worsening conditions at the top of the mountain, Seton stayed out on slicks and put on a spectacular display of his car control.
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@Mothy2014 3 ай бұрын

Mate, i could watch this type of driving all day. Especially with the 1980's cars. I find it way better than todays cars and racing. It was way more raw back then

@peterj5751 3 жыл бұрын

Possibly the best Australian touring car driver to not win Bathurst. He was a champion and a lovely guy to go with it

@TouringCarsofAus 3 жыл бұрын

100%! Although he still plays a good role in motorsport today with car setups and helping his son Aaron with his motorsport career.

@mtboldmanstyle4244 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah could not have said that better, would loved to have seen him win, although he did get one in the touring car masters 🙂

@alanmac8807 2 жыл бұрын

If only he didn't run outa fuel in "95" nope I stand corrected apparently it was valve springs lol

@benspencer9523 10 ай бұрын

The only thing wrong with your comment is the word possibly.

@TheChange8888 5 ай бұрын

Too right mate👍

@weofnjieofing 3 жыл бұрын

Sensational car control from Seton! Seriously impressive! No wings, no downforce just skinny slicks and a big turbo to keep things spicy!

@davidewhite69 3 жыл бұрын

The DR30 was homologated with a Garrett AiResearch T-3 single turbo, not considered 'big' anywhere

@kahuwynyard4408 3 жыл бұрын

Turbo wound all the way up tho, as Fred Gibson himself would say it was also the cause of the mechanical failure and never the fj. Was also known to run 100 octane kero mix. That sound tho is absolute gold, and the old-school tv mics don’t do it justice. Will never forget his ‘97’ win what a legend

@johnstan158 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidewhite69 T3 for a 2litre at the time was big, considering the rb30t turbo commodore had similar. The sierras driven by Johnson had a t4 "70kw to 353kw - 100nm to 658nm" was hard to drive in race conditions either on or off he once stated.

@Leftfield71 2 жыл бұрын

When Glenn passed the BMW over the top of Skyline my heart skipped a beat, back in 1987 and watching this video again 35 years later. For a race that has been going for 60 years, and full of memorable moments, this has to be one of the most memorable and Mike Raymond's brilliant commentary adds so much to it, he is the gold standard commentator in Australian motorsport.

@assininecomment1630 3 ай бұрын

Mike Raymond was a jibbering, babbling twit.* Few people were as enthusiastic as he, about Strayan touring car racing - but _many_ people were better commentators. Evan Green, for example, was _orders of magnitude_ more knowledgeable, skilled and informative. * Sandy Roberts was even worse though. Truly, he was the Troy McClure of Australian news and sports broadcasting. Nice speech - utterly vapid speaker.

@ChrisC-ht2br 4 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but amongst rally, F1 or any top level of Motorsport, that is the finest car control & skill you’ll ever see. I just don’t know how there was room in the car for Glenn & his 2 MASSIVE BALLS.

@davidewhite69 3 жыл бұрын

Nissan team mate John Bowe later described the DR30 as 'the most evil handling race car' he had ever driven, he added 'it was always trying to kill me" so with that you can appreciate Seton's incredible skill handling this car in the wet!

@toddthezondalover645 Жыл бұрын

I think Seton just knew how to drive the car better.

@prescriptionpete866 3 ай бұрын

Love Glenn, had the pleasure of getting to know him and Aaron abit over the years. Great racer, even better bloke !!

@RtB68 3 ай бұрын

This is what modern-day V8 Supercars lacks - spectacle. Multi class, real endurance issues, traffic and none of the endless safety-car interventions when someone is stuck but clearly off the racing line. Today's racing is marred by safety car deployment the moment literally anything happens and there is no longer any endurance aspect to the cars - they never break down now. It's a procession of follow the leader. Bathurst has been reduced to a 1000 km sprint. Remember the skills on display when drivers had to navigate through traffic? It's gone, alone with so much else that made racing so good.

@Mothy2014 3 ай бұрын

💯 mate, you said what I was thinking

@taswegian1790 3 ай бұрын

Been whining about this for years as well cobber , why don’t they put the development series and Porsche cup into the same race . 70 + cars in three categories would spice it up a bit .

@iandibley8032 2 ай бұрын

@RtB68 100% I couldn't have said it any better myself. Now V8 supercars are over controlled and over regulated, in my opinion. Tactics are controlled in the pits by someone on a computer. Previously, the teams chose brake pads and tyres, the teams gambled how kind drivers would be on brakes ,tyres ,fuel consumption, etc. Personality I was at Bathurst & Sandown from the '70's till 2000's many times today. I wouldn't cross the road to watch V8 supercars.

@bjc9520 3 ай бұрын

That was awesome car control. Absolutely first class.

@kw5732 5 ай бұрын

Love it. Bring back the real touring cars.

@Mothy2014 3 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@imanenigma3348 3 жыл бұрын

Too right that didn't half look like a handful! Funny how many of us think we can drive, nah! These guys can drive. Well done Glenn, hang on to her mate.

@frankiesultana376 2 жыл бұрын

So true

@danesorensen1775 3 жыл бұрын

I can never watch this without firing up Deja Vu on my music player.

@frankiesultana3743 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely car control glen

@MarkDurl 3 ай бұрын

I remember, when watching this in 1987, that Glenn was lapping fastest than the Sierras, everybody else in fact. It still sends a shiver down my spine when I see it.

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 3 ай бұрын

Seton was channeling his inner Senna.

@frankiesultana3743 3 жыл бұрын

I was on the mountain that year of 1987 gezz it was cold

@TouringCarsofAus 3 жыл бұрын

Sure looked like it mate!

@peterhoare3219 2 жыл бұрын

Me too. It was so cold and wet and windy I couldn't work out if I was holding my dick or a beer

@simonkevnorris Жыл бұрын

No need for an esky to keep the beer cold!

@nnoddy8161 3 жыл бұрын

I recall, after this drive Nissan Motorsport offered him a test drive/development contract for the Group C car in Japan/Europe and he turned it down!!!! Why he ever left Nissan I cannot understand. It was all up for Nissan after the DR30 (which everyone forgets only lost the '87 ATCC to the M3 by a couple of points). Had Seton stayed at Nissan, Mark Skaife may still be driving Nissan Gazelles in the minor series....

@RtB68 3 ай бұрын

This is such a good point. Skaife really only got the second car/seat to Richards in the R32 because Seaton had moved on.

@jayannan9897 Жыл бұрын

It's a crime Seton never won Bathurst. Seton, Larkim and Brad Jones all deserved one. Seton most of all!!!

@thesausage351 7 ай бұрын

Man, Bradley was blisteringly quick in the OzEmail Falcon days at Bathurst, I was certain he’d win one. I was a massive Bradley fan, such a nice guy, and really open as well. I remember seeing him at Oran Park and talking to him about traction control, noting some Fords, maybe from QLD had a strange note onto the main straight, where as some Holdens, tended to flame out a lot and get going a lot quicker, and he said yes, there’s 2 different types of TC being used, we suspect, we don’t use it because the Ford variant doesn’t work as well.

@markf3229 6 ай бұрын

A lot of luck plays the part in most of the wins at Bathurst. Either good or bad. Im not discounting the drivers skill who make their own luck

@thesausage351 6 ай бұрын

@@markf3229 it’s a lot different now. It used to be a true endurance race, you nursed tyres, engines, coaxed the car along, babied it to make it last the distance, now it’s a series of sprint races, the only limiting factor is tyres and fuel.

@iandibley8032 2 ай бұрын

Seton was a crowd favourite & a great driver. Imagine going from 100hp to 640 hp in a split second in the wet on slicks... big balls required 😂

@warren3967 3 ай бұрын

I had the pleasure to meet Glem in '88 and he was just a generally nice guy, and a great driver.

@bradleywicenciak8005 2 жыл бұрын

Needed to get to the best bit , when he aquaplaned on Conrod at some silly speed . Glen had balls of Steel

@fenderfetish 2 ай бұрын

Did he aquaplane though? Looks like he got slightly airborne and lost some ground friction along with some extra joule transfer from the drive end....

@morris2450 3 ай бұрын

An amazing piece of car handling craftsmanship

@Pablo668 3 ай бұрын

That's amazing driving.

@nicholasgarnett-ly9nw 3 ай бұрын

At about 3:04 . Skills n nerve on display there ! 😯👍

@wadedixon6780 3 жыл бұрын

The day Glenn Seton passed Fangio 👊

@acecombat2shill Жыл бұрын

man i wish this race was on youtube in full

@mbbarnes80 3 ай бұрын

I have the full race in dvd It came out several years ago You might be able to search for it online

@caseycameron5370 Ай бұрын

Nut job bloody champion in my book

@obiemichaels9675 Жыл бұрын

Karting certainly does teach you how to drive in the wet

@alphamike2099 Жыл бұрын

4:32 got too excited

@Holden308 Жыл бұрын

And if you think driving a well sorted, but still very evil to drive Nissan Skyline RS DR30 in the wet was tough, spare a thought for those in Sierra's. Seton was trying to put about 350 bhp to the ground ... guys like Steve Soper had a car that went from a 150 bhp 4 cyl to a 500 bhp fire breathing monster in the flick of a switch. Sierra power was difficult enough (until 1992 in Australia) to handle in the dry, let alone the wet. From 1987-1991, the Sierra teams like Eggenberger, Rouse and Johnson all went the power route. The more power, the better, but it made them more fragile, though reliability was a lot better than you'd think. From 1992 in Australia's last year of Group A, CAMS imposed a 7500 RPM limit on the Sierra's and Commodore's. For the Sierra runners this forced them to tune the engines more for torque than power. And what they found was that the cars were easier to drive ... and actually faster than before. It seemed the true trick with the Sierra RS500 was to tune it for torque and not just outright power.

@brianhoffman4861 2 жыл бұрын

Here's to the boys that didn't win.....

@mrivantchernegovski3869 4 ай бұрын

FJ20 turbo ?

@Holden308 Жыл бұрын

IMO Glenn Seton was the best Aussie driver never to win Bathurst (and IMO there have been one or two or more who ... got lucky to ever win). The best international never to win the 1000 was Klaus Niedzwiedz. Plenty of course have won the 12 Hour.

@tonyn1991 3 ай бұрын

I think triple world champion Jack Brabham and world champion Alan Jones could lay claim to be the best Aussie drivers never to win Bathurst ahead of Glenn.

@Torana1974 3 ай бұрын

That’s crazy

@byteoncomputerservices8054 Жыл бұрын

What's being displayed on the digital clock near the heater controls? It's definitely not displaying the time, but it's being used for something...

@thesausage351 7 ай бұрын

I saw readings between 15 - 17, increasing with car speed so I would say it’s turbo boost pressure.

@byteoncomputerservices8054 7 ай бұрын

@@thesausage351 that'd have to be the worlds first digital boost gauge? A great way to repurpose the clock.

@thesausage351 7 ай бұрын

@@byteoncomputerservices8054 I think I’m wrong actually, I watched it on a bigger screen and I saw a better view of it and I was incorrect with the reading I thought I saw. It changes dependant on speed and throttle position so it might be a fuel burn gauge so he can drive to a figure for economy, but I’m not convinced now it’s a boost gauge.

@edbreen1289 Жыл бұрын

r31?

@inquisitor229 Жыл бұрын

It looks like the power steering is set too high.

@edbreen1289 Жыл бұрын

dr30? go wow

@two-eyedRoy 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if the current series (V8Supercars) could do with dialing everything back to it's roots. Though advanced for their time, these 👆☝ vehicles were still quite simple and terribly flawed, which worked! Similar for the early years of V8SC. I'm pondering if the current stuff (and to me GT3, NASCAR) is maybe too engineered, too aero dependent/reliant/sensitive. AND too big. Physically. Would being more stringent towards a GT4 level (80% road car : 20% race car) vehicle improve things...