1991 Mack CH613 | Retro Review

[@abelucious]

Props to motorweek for doing a quarter mile run with a Mack truck.

[@manfromnantucket9544]

abelucious I might be able to sprint an 1/8 mile faster on foot lol

[@JDMHaze]

yeah,, they are officially ORIGINAL GANGSTERS for that lol

[@scottskinner577]

Awesome lol

[@jmoney7289]

should've burned all 8 out back first

[@97336cf]

Was kind of looking forward to a slalom test tho🤣

[@EvilTwinRC51]

Finally enough gauges for John Davis!

[@CardboardSliver]

To the untrained eye, you wouldn't even believe that rig is from 1991. It looks so good, and almost 2000's in style. Mack did fantastic with this truck.

[@samlung2724]

Theses days just add LED running lights and projector hid lights and it will fit right in 2018

[@jaybee2344]

Actually Mack still makes this model in 2020 but its more of a off road truck.

[@jabirbrown2445]

Yup

[@natashaspiner42]

Mack was a little behind the times with the aerodynamics... KW had their T600 debut in 84'

[@MicahPotts]

@@natashaspiner42 they said it took them 10 years up finish it

[@thugangel662]

I'm watching an old big rig review from 1991. Yeah, i would anything to get away from studying.

[@trabantfreak2370]

@@cjeam9199 fuck you.

[@GunsNGames1]

Profile picture matches the comment so well lmao

[@CJmk3supra]

Bruh I’m telling you 💀💀💀😂😂😂😂😂

[@JeepBoiFL]

Mack should design a car. That thing still looks good today 26 years later.

[@anijp9275]

Yep 2yrs from your comment and this truck is Running stronger and looks better than most new trucks specially the pro stars in my opinion

[@mcmcolm]

Not wishing to be controversial, but current day American trucks are crude and old fashioned compared to European models.

[@normieslayer1169]

@@mcmcolm That's how we like em'

[@LeoMkII]

yes, I thought it was way more recent, the styling of that thing is timeless, always thought those macks were circa 2004

[@coastaku1954]

@@LeoMkII Or does that just mean that Truck styling hasn't changed much over 30 years

[@feints7714]

Oh man he was over the moon with those FOUR oil gauges!

[@SOMeDoOD1992]

Kyle 4 *oil gauges

[@pmvaldez1]

My truck has the regular speedometer and tachometer, along with the usual fuel/DEF, water temperature, voltage, engine oil pressure, primary and secondary air pressure gauges and adds engine oil temperature, air suspension pressure, transmission oil temperature, both drive axle oil temperature, brake application pressure. I'm missing turbo boost, DPF level, air filter, fuel filter and economy gauges.

[@markm0000]

@@pmvaldez1 Thanks Harry I'll look into getting an air filter gauge because it's hard to tell when it needs to be serviced.

[@ChipLeach]

I used to keep a sticker on my Freightliner that read "0 to 60 in five minutes".

[@tn18977]

chip leach i always figured they would haul ass without a trailer hooked up

[@AightBro123]

My dad has a freightliner century

[@ChipLeach]

tn18977 they will definitely set you back in your seat but the usable RPM range on those big diesels is relatively short. You have a lot of gears to stir and even just the bobtail truck can still weigh up to 20,000 + lbs. they are torque monsters but certainly not speedy off the line. :)

[@Timbrock1000]

chip leach I had one that read "0 to 60.... sometimes".

[@robsrandomness7824]

I bet it would out drag a 1980 Chevette without the trailer hooked up.

[@alimonytony]

I spent close to a million miles in a CH driving for UPS. It was my first truck with power steering and cruise control. It really was one hell of a truck.

[@dainyboy2235]

It's crazy I was born May 1989 & can remember watching this with my grandpop as far back as 1994 on up!

[@frontier_etc]

I almost expected to see them take this onto the twists and turns of Roebling Road Raceway

[@fr8hauler]

I was going to comment about a helmet and then they actually wore one...hopefully ironically.

[@jtb1990419]

Or at least to the straightaways of Pocono International Raceway!

[@stevee8318]

Amazing how little styling has changed on these over the years. You wouldn't look twice if you saw this truck on the road today.

[@bobwalsh3751]

Why fix what ain't broke

[@audoinxr6372]

Mostly because American trucks don't update much. Other than the aero models.

[@angelgjr1999]

New vans have 360 degree view cameras and collision avoidance.

[@isaakwelch3451]

Theres no reason to restyle big trucks the way cars get restyled. It seems like most big truck designs are used for at least 20 years

[@zachg9065]

No slalom with the trailer? Come on guys.

[@JDMHaze]

N96ZG lmaoo

[@SavageBunny1]

It would probably destroy the blacktop 😂😂

[@largol33t1]

@@SavageBunny1 That would be very risky. The trailer could lose its rear grip and snap around in FRONT of you! If you hear a squealing sound, look in the rearview mirror and see your own damn trailer coming towards you, you're screwed. Truckers call it a "jackknife" and it's their worst nightmare. The trailer will continue to slide until it strikes the back of the semi and cause it to spin out. If you're lucky, it won't roll over. I've seen this happen on the highway between Texas and Oklahoma once and it's SCARY. The semi rolled over. Fortunately, he escaped with only minor injuries.

[@coastaku1954]

I don't think the Test Drivers for Motorweek have any brown pants....

[@pmvaldez1]

Funny they mentioned electronic log integration but this truck is actually exempt from the current ELD mandate.

[@HonJazzz]

Still a great looking truck today! Absolute classic and I still see them all over.

[@McBeamer94]

I just love how multipurpose the Inline-6 configuration can be. Cars, trucks, motorcycles even!

[@KrummyBrinkleJr.]

Finally! A vehicle with a lower 0-60 time than a chevette!

[@paulwicklund1052]

Guys at motor week. The newest redesigned Mack highway truck will be introduced on September 13th 2017. How about doing a show on the new one.

[@deadfreightwest5956]

But that's a rebadged Volvo.

[@paulwicklund1052]

Moby Dick I have VIKING DNA, I like Volvo.

[@paulwicklund1052]

Dead Frt West SWEDISH POWER!!!

[@Timbrock1000]

Paul Wicklund Love it! Hey Motor Week, are you reading this?

[@mercoid]

Moby Dick ... I prefer Vulva trucks.

[@TheGaming727]

"...gauge package comprehensive enough to make a 747 jealous..." Maybe because the 747 has 365 switches and 5 gauges, all which do not pertain to flying.

[@galil_6863]

The design aged like fine wine 🍷

[@PACKERMAN2077]

*V-MAC KICKED IN YO.* I'm sorry 😐

[@jeepjoseph9036]

Bro were already home

[@TrailBlazerSS502]

This is my personal favorite Retro Review, a Mack (with the full Mack powertrain) being tested like never before.

[@mr.butterworth]

41.5 seconds @ 40 mph is pretty damn impressive for a big-ass truck with trailer. That's only 3-4 times slower than a legitimately fast car, but how many thousands of pounds more does the rig weigh? Way more than 3-4 times, that's for sure.

[@fernandorocha901]

Mack CH 613 is engine Detroit.

[@dugweacr1]

hard to believe these were made over a quarter of a century ago

[@Ithinkiwill66]

That was great, seeing how the Motorweek's pro driver, that does the track there with different vehicles, couldn't master the 12-gear box, on the Mack! Then laughing soo much! I love it! And, this stunned me that there was actually a semi tractor on this show! Awesome!

[@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106]

I remember these when I was kid. Something's about the mack trucks just had to collect them. Still fascinated with trucks even as a grown man.

[@dawge30]

I love the variety of vehicles y'all test on the show, fantastic!

[@Blackout_1692]

Hey MotorWeek can you dig up the Retro review of the 2003 Subaru Baja

[@Blackout_1692]

To each and every one of the 47 people who liked my comment thank you never gotten 47 likes on one of my comments

[@11094DEREK]

You got 52 now man

[@Blackout_1692]

11094DEREK thanks but I still want them to upload the Retro review of the 2003 Subaru Baja

[@11094DEREK]

Me too

[@tamiwu0346]

Yes

[@AdamAus85]

Awesome. As a car guy I love everything from motorbikes to tractor trailers. Still plenty of these Mack trucks getting around in Australia.

[@deanspanos8210]

This review put me Over the Top.

[@ekscalybur]

I see what you did there.

[@rcairforceone]

Dat Winger tho.

[@chuckycheese84]

Lincoln Hawk would be so proud

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Too bad the Chargers hasn't

[@tots16]

The truck looks great for its age!

[@vetteluvnh]

Love it! These classic videos are so entertaining and enjoyable. This is why I donated to MW & will do so again. Thanks guys!

[@chrismorgan6149]

I've had this truck for 8 years. A lot better than my 387 Peterbilt.

[@xnopyt13]

3:40 "gauge package comprehensive enough to make a 747 jealous" *Laughs in flight engineer*

[@Kentageon]

Ah, the days before the blight that is Diesel Exhaust Fluid...

[@maverickdallas1004]

ganymedeIV4 ...I miss that good old diesel aroma that reeked of power and testosterone!

[@scrimmy6969]

Do some research slick. Gasoline engines produce more harmful emissions than a diesel. But I guess you clearly watched a show that brainwashed you to think different.

[@imzjustplayin]

Gasoline engines do not produce more harmful emissions than Diesel. Diesel emits far more particulate matter and has all the other junk associated with gasoline engines. Smog in europe is terrible because of that fact.

[@robertrichardson9953]

The government screws everything up. They're not realizing the damage being done to diesel engines even new one. Sulphur helped with extra lubrication in the engine

[@topgunns1000]

I remember being behind those school buses with the exhaust pointing straight rearward out if the back bumper pumping out all kinds of disgusting black smoke right into my cars vents. Ridiculous !

[@BCJDM]

More big rig reviews please!

[@onkyomitsu4765]

I agree!! Would love to see both American and Euro trucks reviewed! Stania, Saab, Volvo, Freightliner, KW, Pbilt etc..

[@MyGuyJustinH]

I would love to see more big rig reviews, too.

[@thegenrl]

Pushing 30 years that is still a slick looking truck

[@plsniper]

Drove that one for about 2 years. Way better truck than the newer Macks.

[@pinkflydnt]

I currently drive a 2019 Mack Anthem and love it!

[@rslover65]

I've spent many a torturous hour in one of those. Can't say I miss it a bit.

[@DJTEDDY507]

Still looks great 26 years later

[@Flamboyant8]

ok but what's the Doug Score?

[@lexusls]

I don't think it would score very well in the weekend category...

[@mcfritter]

Interesting quirks?

[@nickwilczynski3684]

Doug would give it a 0 for acceleration and would RAVE about the features, just go on and on, and then give them a '6.' Ok Doug.

[@jmoney7289]

practicality is a most definite 10

[@keanuuchiha1306]

You can read about it on his Autotrader blog

[@goclunker]

Look at all those pothole free roads!

[@jonathanfunnell4167]

LOVE MACK WITH ALL MY HEART THE FIRST TRUCKING COMPANY TO BE FOUND IN 1900

[@SataniaMcDowel]

Motorweek: "Oil Pressure And Volt meter gauges?" 10/10 I think Davis jizzed in his pants that hot summer day

[@directorjustin]

Great looking truck! Very clean and purposeful.

[@brucehoge7432]

4:15 he mentions electronic log book capability, almost 30 years ago?

[@Southized]

Big company fleets used them not the boys we knew haulin

[@Q45t]

WINGER! I can't get enough......excellent.

[@robertl.hoffman675]

I owned that truck for 9 years Great truck wish I had it back

[@jeylful]

I love these retro video.. I am glad I subscribed, I enjoy them more than the up-to-date cars lol

[@j2z1000]

Liking the retro reviews!

[@pmvaldez1]

It's amazing how much more complicated a truck's electronics are 20 years later thanks to the EPA and CARB.

[@DavidAndre657]

Wishing all a safe and happy Labor Day. Thanks for being a fan of MotorWeek.

[@tedschmitt178]

Winger as the intro music is 👍👍 I seriously want to drive one of these.

[@kerns05jk]

I got to get one for the wife.

[@AightBro123]

Wal Mart it's car like and bigger than an suv so it's perfect

[@brandonruhl4525]

TheMilkMan No.

[@mathuetax]

That was amusing! Reminds me of Road & Track's April vehicle reviews, I recall one time they tested a Fire Engine.

[@onkyomitsu4765]

Searching now.. lol

[@CoastalAutoReactionCAR]

Can you please dig up some more of the full line retro reviews! Please! Or some Grand Wagoneer ones! Seen the 83 wagoneer limited but there has to be some grand wagoneer ones.....Man I would love to be able to just watch whole old episodes somwhere! Thank you!

[@honestjohn783]

Back in the day they really knew how to talk about the cars and sell them on attractive points. Unlike today’s Kia Soul commercials with hamsters

[@lunarthespacecat7772]

3:00 dat weld

[@bennetfox]

Most badass MotorWeek ever!

[@Spheredalai]

NGL it does look like it's from at least very late 1990s and up until mid 2000s! fantastic design! much sleek! definitely prefer this compared to its predecessor. this and ford's aeromax. THE best looking American truck in my opinion.

[@kevinrichards3288]

Speaking of semis I miss seeing the other kind of semis "cabovers" on the roads here in the USA. Back in those days I saw a big mix of cabovers & conventional cabs. Now these days the only cabovers I see around are fire trucks, garbage trucks, yard trucks, & some box trucks.

[@WilkerLMHS]

This is so great. Please do more interesting and unique reviews! Consumer Reports recently tested a Volvo front end loader.

[@sponk2112]

I want one for my daily commute and grocery trips, trailer included. It might even fit in my driveway. Getting it situated in said driveway might be challenging given the layout, but I'll make it work one way or another, trees be damned.

[@Sireci73]

Cherry wood dash board! Haha! Straight from the plastic rain forest!

[@401k_scatpack4]

you have never been in one. Is real wood. I've worked at same Mack Dealer since 1988. 33 tears now.

[@CountryCarReviews]

5:40 some say that it’s just pat gloss’s race car driver twin and that he pefers shell vpower over a glass of Pepsi all we know he’s called the Stig’s Motorweek Cousin.

[@universetwisters3968]

I can't believe that this truck that I've seen millions of times was once called a "show truck". Like holy shit, this used to be the FUTURE OF TRUCKING but now it's just an everyday truck.

[@BlohmandBlohmer]

Gotta love the 4 speaker cassette radio!

[@chocodiledundee1]

That Honda bike is so hot .... I do remember those fine machines , Mack trucks are very popular in Australia, I love them , one the best trucks was this 2005 I used to drive for Coca-Cola !

[@turdgoblin6113]

Ahh my good ol hometown of allentown Pennsylvania! Its a shame that the Mack plant is gone now.

[@samuelmcbride9740]

Can that rig make it from Atlanta to Texarkana and back in 28 hours?

[@antz350]

Samuel Colt with some Colorado kool aid?

[@turbolq4]

Samuel Colt East bound and down!!!

[@seantaylor2683]

Load it up and truck it

[@turbolq4]

We gon do what they say can't be done!

[@seantaylor2683]

We got a long way to go

[@pratyushbiswas7582]

American trucks always look new and stylish

[@chaoszombie9995]

I wasn’t expecting this from Motorweek... I’m shook...

[@thetreblerebel]

Iconic as Peterbilt or Ford or Chevy. Mack Bulldog a staple of American auto culture as anything

[@fernandorocha8459]

Mack Bulldog is grandpa os americans frewways

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

As a trucker, I hope you did more of these. How about the new 2017 Volvo?

[@insxmnia_exe]

this is why they'll remain the best

[@IKhanNot]

Just upgrade the lights and this a better version of a modern truck. No DPF, DEF system and most of all no millions of sensors that just result in down time.

[@vgsrule4ever]

THIS IS WHAT,, REAL MEN DRIVE HELL YEH BOROTHER!!! GOBBLESS

[@Kastro876]

At a previous place i worked they had one... A 2001... Solid trucks

[@KS-kb4zt]

Truck is 30 years Old and is gorgeous

[@Slim_Slid]

E7-E9 were good engines,but I still love the 673 Thermodyne.

[@rengonzalez4233]

Wait...a big rig...in a Motorweek show???

[@FeartheCyr611]

Ren Gonzalez said the same thing

[@TheTallMan50]

Electronic logs in 1991??

[@Nuttty]

the gold bull dog means a all Mack drive train

[@mpaoness]

lawl, until you need parts for it

[@mayhemmike1789]

Mike p name 1 truck transmission that wont need costly parts/repairs after enough time! Manual or Automatic

[@mpaoness]

Michael Gillette there aren't any they all cost good money to repair. What you fail to realize is that parts availability for a Mack triple countershaft and an Eaton RTLO are completely different. EVERY dealer network stocks Eaton parts, I used to work for Mack in Toronto and we didn't even stock Mack trans components but sure as shit had eaton. Downtime costs more than parts and labour. And if you've repaired Eaton and Mack trans you'll know the Eaton is superior. Sincerely a licensed mechanic with a magnitude of transmission and diff repair experience (who's worked for Mack, Peterbilt, Volvo and freightliner).

[@mayhemmike1789]

Mike p as a trash truck mechanic for WM In Baltimore Md. & NYC Workin on macks, petes, international & freightliners for 9 years, i can only recall clutches being replaced on maxitorques. I found the eatons gave a little more trouble. Just a little. Patrs availability is one thing. How often parts are needed is something else

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

+Michael Gillette off topic, but how about international/allison? thats all i drive now.

[@ericouellette5293]

Got a Mack vision at work. Looks the same as this one. Not a bad truck.

[@lycossurfer8851]

Do you think that cellular phone thing they mentioned will become popular?

[@bensmith4563]

Ben D Jr I was more surprised by the mention of an electronic log book

[@_ArsNova]

What next, am I going to find out Motorweek did a tractor review back in the day too?

[@chocodiledundee1]

This truck sill looks awesome up to today , I see that model everywhere here in Aussie .

[@daniel55645]

The ch is what I learned on and drove only a couple years ago. had 1.6 million miles on it.

[@exixy6958]

1:24 it be the 90s but my man still stuck in the 80s

[@riadinrisanto4766]

beautiful semi 😍

[@Gmtail]

It amazes me how the HP and torque numbers of the current model diesel HD pickup trucks come close to what this Mack put out back then. Insane.

[@Gmtail]

Class Act I can't disagree there. Obviously the big rigs are meant for abuse everyday but still the numbers on the current pickup trucks are crazy high. As are the prices. Lol

[@Gmtail]

Class Act Wow really? Never priced out a big rig but I can tell ya I'll never spend 70k on a pickup truck.

[@bobwalsh3751]

What is that song at the intro? EDIT: NOT the theme song. The rock song played when they introduce the truck.

[@maxboya]

@ 3:03 they used duct tape to keep the corner light from falling off.

[@barryscanlan8074]

Truly a fun review! Retro or not

[@chatanugadotorg]

Need to do a follow up review with one of today's modern trucks.

[@streetroyalty1]

There used to be a ton of these on the highway! Haven’t seen one of these in years

[@rowanprice2304]

RoadTrip R where I am this is the most common mack after the granite, and Mack is popular where I am. (Half hour South of the mack Factory)

[@2500mike]

When possible Motorweek should go back and do the same thing with the new Mack Anthem. That would be cool!

[@woohunter1]

Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should......

[@deerepower337]

woohunter1 no need to double clutch only steering wheel holders do that

[@JDMHaze]

lmaoo

[@rustyshacklefordrefined5756]

@@deerepower337Steering wheel holders drive automatics.

[@martinmonette7598]

MotorWeek Please do a Test Drive of the New Mack Anthem, Mack was ahead of its time 30 years ago!

[@BernonCars]

I still see them on the road, definitely durable