1998 Acura Integra Type R (DC2) vs 2024 Acura Integra Type S (DE5) | Does It Honor The Legacy?

[@homesaucemagic]

Thanks, K. Jubbal for the great review of the DC2 ITR. I'm glad that this content shares how simple and pure the driving experience of the 90's Hondas are. The ITR was one of my dream cars so I wanted to make an OEM+ build that stayed true to the early driving concept from the early Honda engineers without compromising on useability and ride height. I love how Honda engineers did everything they could (on a tight budget) to transform the sporty DC2 chassis into an even stiffer, lighter car. The GSR model was already formidable back then at 170HP, and somehow they squeezed another 25HP out of the NA 1.8L which was really unheard of back then for an NA 4 cylinder. The ITR driven here is probably around 2,535lb. While it's true that nostalgia plays into how much these cars are appreciated 26 years on, I can tell you that everyone that I throw the keys to comes back with a huge smile. It's a reminder to me that the character and soul of a car is much more important than pure power, efficiency and competency that newer cars have in spades.

[@jubbalandcars]

Beautifully said my guy

[@dino_will_win]

Kevin (DC2 owner) deserves some kind of medal of honor. Even before reading the blog post, one can see that the car was given so much love. Looks like brand new. Amazing!

[@jubbalandcars]

Completely agree

[@kfga19]

I had a white 95. It was stolen halfway through restoring it. I miss it soooo much 😭😭 I'm not a super knowledgeable car person but it made fall in love with cars

[@davidgontar3841]

Great detail provided in your video on all the aspects/inputs relating to the driving feel. Awesome video

[@dreamdrivedrift]

Agreed the DE5/FL5 is a car I am finding hard to love despite it being a very sensible. I think it’s a more of an Accord Type R than Civic Type R.

[@SIIKAP1]

False. Accord is much bigger, boatier, and more boring. Just because it’s not made with the 90s magic of high revving, NA engine, and under 3,000 lbs chassis doesn’t mean it’s unlovable or like an Accord.

[@thatloudCG5]

Not shitting on Fenton's Type S too hard, but there are die hard OG Integra owners that don't claim the new car. It died after the DC5 and that kit car is an Accord Crosstour remake. I understand where the design intent came from (1986 Integra) for the new car, but no. This is something the board designed and NOT something the enthusiasts and engineers designed. Saying this as a DB8 GS-R owner and past DA9/DC5 owner. Yes, I'm hella biased. Props to you Sir Kevin.

[@6mtzhp55]

I have a S2000 and it's what I wonder about. The ITS and CTR seem like a good replacement daily drivers for my Subaru, one of the few that can be had with a stick. However, I am unsure if they'll be less capable commuters than a 2025 Camry, yet less engaging than the S2000. The 'boring' Subaru has made me appreciate the S2000 when I drive it, and the 'impractical' S2000 has made me appreciate the Subaru for the way it makes traffic and crappy roads less engaging, in a good way.

[@dreamdrivedrift]

The FL5 does great at daily duty but it’s not anywhere as exciting as S2000. Think of it more as an Accord Type R

[@SIIKAP1]

Owned both. S2000 is my favorite car I’ve ever owned or driven, and the fun factor is above anything else. FL5 is my second or third favorite. It is fun, very practical, quick, and satisfying to drive. It’s a perfect daily commuter unless you’re in stop and go the whole time. You’d regret getting a new Camry over the FL5, unless you’re not a car enthusiast or if you care about spending more on gas money. The S2000 + FL5 combo is A+

[@youtubechangedmyname]

Still prefer my 93 Prelude VTEC. But Integra is my next favorite 90s Honda.

[@Givelasagna]

You can't beat the old 90s cars when it comes to passion. It was just you and the machine. You're more disconnected with newer cars nowadays

[@tyhyhh]

They can make cars like this if the government would let them lol I'd take the new type s all day for daily but I'd take the type r for a weekend toy

[@Slowcarfastbeans]

I always thought the DC2 steering rack ratio was too slow.

[@SonikDethmonkey]

Way too slow. I drove one of these back in the day and generally wasn’t all that impressed. I sort of feel like we’re looking back on these with rose-colored glasses.

[@kotarojujo2737]

slow ratio with great feedback or fast steering rack with more numb feeling?

[@peterjazii6925]

Hope the motorcycle rider is okay! Prayers to them. Stay safe out there peeps. Have fun within safe limits ❤

[@tonymcflattie2450]

Any time you get choppered, you know it's serious

[@NitroAdventure]

Get one of these as your next track car 😅

[@grantrainey4200]

he would never :3 kevdawg hates fwd cars

[@grantrainey4200]

well i said this before watching. he’s pretty enthusiastic about this one’s steering lol

[@73notch]

How did Honda make ITB induction noise without ITBs?

[@kgthegreatone943]

I like the type R better but love them both maybe its because I grew up in the 90s

[@rightminddrive]

just curious, whats with the sawing motion you make with your hands? is it a driving technique, habit.. ??

[@jimjim2822]

2024 is nice EXCEPT that god-awful iPad sticking out of the otherwise smooth dashboard. HONDA - stop designing that crap!!!

[@NitroAdventure]

How do you feel about the 350z im thinking about buying on as a duel duty track car

[@crisconnelly4295]

Shit never had an itr but I still miss my 95 gsr

[@Jmarzx]

Integra Type R DC2 is best modded imo specifically built engine nd transmission! Nd turbo nd easily better than a type R performance feeling wise

[@tonymcflattie2450]

Sounds great when you rip it hard

[@shamalabadingdong]

Reviews like these are so funny and contradictory sometimes. There are modern cars that have the ideology of the dc2/dc5 in the N cars. They rotate much more than the type r, there's way more theatre and drama. Not just on the street but even on track many people feel like these cars are more fun than their Honda counter parts. Not to mention with real world pricing they're 20-30k cheaper. Except in those comparisons, all everyone talks about is "but the honda is 0.5 seconds faster and more clinical to drive" as if it's a good thing lmao. No way, the car on 265 9.5 wheels with a 40 hp advantage is barely faster than the car on 245 8.0. For that comparison, soul, drama and driver fun doesn't matter. But in this comparison, all of a sudden it does. Opinions on these topics are hilarious because there's always a huge amount of rose tinted glasses towards older cars in general, and cars with a lot of heritage. The dc2 is a worse car in 9/10 ways to the type s, but it's more fun. The elantra N is by all means a modern dc2/5. I think savagegeese feels the same way where they explicitly said this is the car that feels the most like the integra. But nah, every reviewer would rather pay 20k more for a type r because of higher interior quality and "more grip" while at the same time looking back at older integras as superior cars despite having the same short comings. The goal post always shifts to favour the "cooler" car

[@tyhyhh]

Elantra n is cool but no where near as nice as the type s or type r lol

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@tyhyhh you need to be a serious fan boy to say they're not even close. The EN is consistently faster than an fk8 stock for stock. Mod for mod I've seen them be plenty faster than the fl5. The fl5 is barely faster stock with a 40hp advantage and on 265/9.5 wheels vs 245/8 wheels. When both the EN and Fl5 are tuned, the EN is actually faster in a straight line. Put them on the same tire/wheel and the EN is consistently faster. There's a reason that Honda has lost to Hyundai in TCR every year since the EN has come out lol. Michael dube ran a 1.29.853 at Willow springs. Outright the fastest fwd car to ever run at Willow springs. For comparison, this puts him faster than a modified 981 gt4 and a cts-v mk3 driven by randy post ( great driver). Modlist is below FBO, catless downpipe, upgraded suspension bushings, 9.5 front with 265s, 8.5 rear with 255s. Racing pads with stock rotors. Usually we run Neotech 10/12s but they’re sending us new coilovers and we’re running lowering springs this weekend. In stock form they're really fucking close. No where near as nice is hilarious unless you're talking about solely interior quality, which I agree the type s is significantly nicer inside. That doesn't really disagree with my original point. We love the integra for being more fun to drive and overlook it being a shittier car in every way (despite it being a 90's economy shit box), but when the EN is the more fun alternative to the type r while being 95% as good in other ways, all we care about is interior quality and laptimes. Goal posts move to whatever car they like more lol

[@thebumpban4959]

​@@shamalabadingdongNo one that drives a Honda is concerned with Hyundai enjoy your EN. We're good over here 😬

[@SIIKAP1]

20-30k cheaper!? 😂😂😂😂. You mean $10k? EN is $35-37k and FL5 or ITS is $46k and $50k (can find ITS under MSRP easy). I don’t wanna hear that 20k markup BS excuse because that is not the case at ALL anymore

[@jasonscotta7129]

@@SIIKAP1Maybe in the area you live in, plenty by me are well above MSRP for an FL5. That being said, the EN is a modern ITR more so than the FL5 is. Hyundai implemented into the EN what made the ITR so desirable. Having owned AP1 and ITR; driven the FL5 the EN is the great successor in similarities to previous Hondas I’ve owned. Modern Honda is blah, they peaked many moons ago.