1999 Tour de France

1999 edition of Tour de France

[@gasolinewine801]

I’m just glad they were all racing clean. I would be heart broken to find out they were doping.

[@Tazangamoz]

😂.... I really hope you were being sarcastic.

[@Gaggerlotion]

Why do you care?

[@evelia1156]

Dope or no dope, it’s still great racing and fun to watch. I personally couldn’t care less what these guys were taking.

[@jonsinkkonen9393]

Like Nate Diaz said,they all everyone on peds. Applies to most sports,more extreme more peds you need.

[@markblanch2905]

😅👍😅

[@youarepredictable]

Man this takes me back. I was a cycling enthusiast and amateur racer(mountainbike and biathalons/triathalons) who did a ton of riding in the early/mid 90's and followed the sport quite a bit. I remember tuning in to watch every summer. I watched plenty of the tour before and after Lance was running things, but that time was truly exciting. I'd watch every weekend during the day and thankfully CBS or OLN or whoever was airing it would do sort of condensed "replays" at night that I'd tune in for for the first couple of his wins. By 2001, we had cable with DVR so I could record the entire stages. Nothing beats Phil LIgget and Paul Sherwen and Bob Roll on color commentary all those years.

[@RogueCylon]

RIP Paul Sherwen.

[@davidorasanin3800]

Thx so much for this upload, it is just fenomenal. I am soo happy right now, watching this. 😁. You made my day.. 👍👍👍

[@classiccycling48592]

My pleasure 😊

[@jonathondodge9070]

Fun to rewatch all these years later. This was the first tour that I ever watched and it was magical then. Obviously overshadowed now. Classic Cycling, or whomever did the editing did a great job editing the tour down to this compilation. Thanks for the nostalgic afternoon while I turn wrenches at my own bike shop.

[@cbx750frider]

have a look at the 86 tour. lemond and hinault....excellent

[@IncorrigibleBigotry]

Well said, dude. I could watch content like this all day long.

[@starkparker16]

Great video. Thanks for posting

[@classiccycling48592]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@joeblack7469]

If this isn’t an example of why we should just let them all dope I don’t know what is. Thank you for putting the edit together.

[@fanda6122]

ignorant comment it is hardly an even playing field and the teams with the biggest budgets dope the best. USPS and lance used influence to get the UCI to overlook positive testosterone results and bullied and snitched all while being dirty themselves. they could delay a car with EPO in the truck so that a rival didnt have the dose when they needed to. cyclists became more science experiment than athlete and it ruined the sport. even nowadays the nutrition is a secret and top riders take mystery recovery drinks and vitamin tablets. i am of the opinion it will never stop but the UCI needs to make sure the sport has credibility.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

2:02:14 Rocky Balboa style

[@g_y.rtz420]

nope no thank you only simpletons think like this. It's not about who the best at cycling is or even who the best at doping is, its whos the best at getting away with it is. Armstrong was a politician, he's well connected and knew insider information not only about the best drugs and best physician but also ho tests are going to be conducted. He's also very adept and flexible, every year he changes his strategy from employing "motoman" to deliver epo to avoid busts, to blood transfusions the following year, to microdoping the next. It's not even a competition when its just information gathering and getting creative with not getting caught. And I dont even have to mention the harassment and power tripping. It may be fun for you folks to delude yourselves into thinking its a level playing field but sorry, Id rather smoke weed if i want to fool myself.

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

But if we have two groups free doping group and so called tested athletes! Real Shocker is that these so call tested clean athletes would do as good results as doping Stars! If we have two groups so we will hear from Norway Sweden Australia Canada their White clean athletes will beat Lance Armstrong easily! The truth is No-one clean athletes will beat Lance Armstrong! Clean would lose 3-4 minutes 60 minutes time trial to Armstrong!

[@personaljesus000]

58:10, give a man some chalk and some clean pavement and they all draw the same thing.

[@markblanch2905]

😅😅😅🙂

[@petef15]

'The same thought was going through my mind there, Paul'

[@dengamleidiot]

Now a day, a team is hired to re-draw the pensles into something else less offensive

[@edhu6p215]

Thanks for the video. I really enjoy the documentary style highlights and Phil leggets voice is wonderful. Even though controversy always surrounds TdF, the country and its people are a joy to see and learn.

[@rangersmith4652]

The way cycling fans continued to turn out in 1998 and beyond even with the highly publicized doping scandals in play demonstrates that, by and large, cycling fans DO NOT CARE about doping. Pro cycling exists because the fans want to see it, so whom do the witch hunts actually serve?

[@alechull4300]

What a spectacle, the race was incredible, Phil/Paul are legends

[@peterlucey8282]

Paul passed away a couple of years ago

[@JoanOH]

Thanks for all your great videos. I'm an avid cycling enthusiast and love watching the races from the past.

[@classiccycling48592]

Thanks Joan, I really appreciate it.

[@ThrowINTS]

“Our roided-up guy beat YOUR roided-up guy.” - Bill Burr Ha ha ha. 😂

[@phililpb]

then all the roided up guys die before 50 and every kid trying the sport is also roided up and suffer serious side effects. not so funny

[@BroadsideBob]

“I can remember what my wife looks like.”🤣

[@michaelvitiello9960]

I miss these days so much.

[@jeffholder1156]

I decided to rewatch the Tours from 1986 forward. Today is 1999. It is interesting the feelings that come up knowing the truth.😢

[@joespumoni2316]

Dope video

[@kampango789]

The first and best pharmaceutical year in 1999

[@gregcueva8631]

1998 had a lot more EPO I promise you.

[@itsfrankmooneythedrummerwi2988]

Learn your cycling history before you make idiotic statements drugs in 99 had been on the tour at least since 89

[@danjo1967]

@@itsfrankmooneythedrummerwi2988 .... its always been there in some form depending on the era

[@IronHorsey3]

@@danjo1967 - sure, but EPO holds the gold medal

[@galenkehler]

I didn't follow road racing until about 2005, looking back at these races now that I have the context of watching and racing myself, these performances are ridiculous. Amazing history.

[@landonlusk9839]

Everyone was doping

[@dennisjames3711]

there was a lot going on in cycling then. Real celebrities. Plus EPO and very high level. Now is childish ... Today's cycling looks funny riders do it for money etc.

[@flavioposti6604]

@@dennisjames3711 sss

[@keirfarnum6811]

I used to race mountain bikes in Alaska in the early 90s and I was pretty damn strong (and was getting faster since I had only been racing for 4 years before I got sick with ME/CFS in 93; I think I would have continued to develop over the next 4 years had I not gotten sick), and the idea of averaging 32 mph for 8 minutes is just extraordinary; drugs or not.

[@keirfarnum6811]

@@dennisjames3711 Why do you say today’s cycling looks funny?

[@alfredwilson7276]

Oh well, this is like watching the movie Titanic. Was entertaining nevertheless but we all know the outcome going in.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

2:13:38🍔

[@brianmcg321]

I've watch these in VHS hundreds of times. These were so much better than any coverage we ever got in the states at the time.

[@christopher5585]

Guess you weren't around to watch CBS Tour de France coverage 1983-1988.

[@xyphenius9942]

If someone could timestamp this with highlights I would forever be indebted to you 🙏

[@rochellestanley9532]

Loved the bikes of USPS in this tour 🥇🇺🇸

[@felroberto]

After the scandal of Festina Team in 1998 it is very disappointing that the Tour organisers did not radically upgrade doping controls in 1999. They knew most of top contenders had any reason to use drugs including Armstrong but Tour de France is principally a bussiness and money comes first 😪

[@bucknaked6674]

They did radically improve doping controls, they introduced the 50% haematocrit rule which led to the finish of pantani's career. There was no way of testing for growth hormone or epo or transfusions back then. There was one for testosterone but it could be gotten around and although they've improved it, hence Floyd Landis was caught, it still can be worked around. The same drugs and methods are still being used today, just smaller dosages more regularly so they don't trigger the passport. The unknown is what drugs have been developed since that are also being used, most likely aicar at small dosages at the very least.

[@elypeachy3296]

@@bucknaked6674 Listen to what Travis Tygart had to say about that on podcast "Travis Tygart Is Coming for Cheaters - Just Ask Lance Armstrong (People I (Mostly) Admire Ep. 33)" @28:30 mark

[@keirfarnum6811]

@@bucknaked6674 I raced mountain bike in Alaska in the early 90s and I couldn’t even imagine using such drugs. I would quit before doing that.

[@cartermoth6447]

The problem isn't the riders, it's the dope controls. Every Tour winner since year zero was on some sort of medication/performance enhancer. It's just the nature of the sport. Armstrong did what everyone else did & still does (lol @ Pogacar). Dope controls were introduced by ignorant morons who understand nothing about cycling & since then, it's gotten worse & worse. Riders now can't even take a cortisone injection for a sore knee. It's absurd. The public wants Tour champions who attack, who have panache, stages with excitement & great memories... but they sh*t themselves with anguish & self righteousness when they hear the riders are on medication. This problem was initially caused by the introduction of dope controls in 1966. Before that, no one asked questions or shat all over the athletes.

[@sukhmaidickoff]

@@cartermoth6447 So basically it doesn´t bother you the slightest that for many years the person / the team with the best doctors and the best drug-company behind them won the race?

[@p.l.diablo9864]

The real winner, Edgar Allen Poe.

[@durianriders]

epic! Not as fast as today though. If a poor sport like cycling has a juice problem imagine what tennis, NBA, NFL etc are on!

[@shane-irish]

Was way faster back then most on drugs lol its a bit cleaner today

[@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025]

@@shane-irish It's not cleaner at all today. The cyclists are just more careful about things.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Protected sports (because money talks) are tennis, football/soccer, golf, NFL/gridiron, rugby union, and of course track and field, particularly if there's a big name. Drugs scandals cost money so there's a lot of protection/back scratching to keep a certain amount of testing to be kept QT or even have limited testing/advanced warnings.

[@mikewalsh6168]

@@shane-irish Dream on mate. 2020 winner was on something in that time trial

[@shane-irish]

@@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025 na its cleaner

[@carnebie]

It is wild going back and watching old tours and realizing NO ONE wore helmets. Such an obvious thing now, but was just not the norm then.

[@SampoSaarela]

Yep, it is also wild knowing that every one of them was doped up to the eye balls. At least they wear helmets nowadays.

[@cartermoth6447]

"And the speed of these riders on the climb... unbelievable". Indeed, unbelievable as in literally not believable. Fun spectacle though. But the TdF 1999 needed peak doped Pantani to take the fight to Armstrong.

[@wraith8323]

TBH with cycling, bodybuilding, baseball you name it, I would be totally OK with a clean competition, then the sideshow of folks on PEDS. Unfortunately it's a game of whose deceit is best, and competing clean at the highest level seems near impossible

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

1:32:39 woah 1:44:55 ...wtf on earth has happened !? 2:37:03 woah

[@Newtube_Channel]

Not quite. As a pro rider it is doable. It's the job. If you're a casual cyclist or even an amateur you may not understand some of these things.

[@robg8310]

Funny how we had the fastest TDF this year and ppl actually believe that it's clean

[@Qwerty-fy6fx]

I actually don't know. Maybe it's because of our tech too? I've read that riders were using 9 speed in that year and TdF 2022 we're on 12 speed electronic groupsets. We've made the wheel rounder, faster tyres, better bearings, lighter bikes, better understanding of aerodynamics, nutrition, bike fit, and many more. But we can't be sure because maybe we got better at hiding doping

[@muhammadfarhan581]

@@Qwerty-fy6fx i watched the movie "the armstrong lie". 98 tdf was a pr nightmare when festina team (one of famous pro tour team) caught red handed. The organizers wanted 99 to be the slowest tdf ever. But instead, we got armstrong breaking records. The reason why most ppl believe (many fans and media did question it) but most ppl believe bcos they all too invested in the romantic story of cancer survivor doing the impossible, and uci ride him as he is a cash cow, kinda like dana white sucking up mcgregor. Armstrong claim that uci did protect him those 7 years

[@goodoleme747]

@@Qwerty-fy6fx the shelf life on some of these drugs nowadays is short.

[@TesterAnimal1]

@@Qwerty-fy6fxNaïve.

[@Newtube_Channel]

Contrary to your view, a clean peloton may not necessarily make it a slower sport. I mean we've the fastest Tours in the last few years and by that account it should be the dirtiest, which as a statement is also not true.

[@geoffaldwinckle1096]

The Armstrong interviews are hilarious.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

The Aluminium and Carbon era, among over "things".

[@shane-irish]

Remember waking up watching the mountain stadges and the epo everywhere

[@kickinit333]

I would wake-up at 3am to watch the stages. We all know the truth now but at the time, it was amazing to watch.

[@micheledesantis443]

Che era bello vincere facile, senza parole......

[@CptJET-he8nc]

TY

[@onfiredesign3970]

So many adjectives...all in shock

[@rderouck]

After 1998 every cycling fan kne full well we were in the midst of the EPO era. I honestly didn't care; this was an epic Tour de France and Armstrong would've won in a clean era

[@rafaelrazon9738]

TDF 1999-2005 - Legendary and The Best!

[@inthedarkwoods2022]

The best doper...

[@rochellestanley9532]

Absolutely 💯

[@Theytfguhyre]

The only time in our lifetime that Americans will ever watch the "Tour". Lance was the MAN!!!!

[@niceguy1774]

None accidentally stayed tuned-in for Floyd?

[@gregcueva8631]

1:58:31 Hmmm... Yes, he's not taking drugs.

[@TheRainmanBachelor]

The words of journalist David Walsh from his convo with Armstrong rings true. “I felt at that point that everything he was telling me was a lie.”

[@TheRainmanBachelor]

@@lifesshorttt someone with morals

[@lpr5269]

It's kind of stupid to set up the rules to force people to lie and then complain about them lying. What was he supposed to do? Say "Everyone uses PED's including me. Anybody who is serious about winning." Then what? Career over.

[@rochellestanley9532]

Simply loved cycling in these days

[@willsprint4beer818]

I could care less about the scandals. Most everyone winning in that era was doping. It takes major skill(and luck) just to stay out of catastrophic crashes. Lance’s reign was probably the greatest achievement in sports.

[@laszlozoltan5021]

sports or fraud? neither.

[@topfell8277]

They all doped diff forms

[@jsquire5pa]

You couldn’t care less

[@colinstewart7123]

The more competitive an environment, the more logical a cheating strategy becomes. This principle explains all sorts of phenomena. From doping in sports to sharp practice on Wall St. 👹

[@p.l.diablo9864]

The problem is choice. It's what shows your character and ethics.

[@EagleLogic]

This tour was fucking great

[@oldtwinsna8347]

"It's the Lance Armstrong style of pedaling that allows him to win races, nothing more" - Paul

[@phililpb]

Well it helped

[@cgarby]

RIP Paul

[@MeesterJ]

Really miss these long time trials. They were insanely impressive! And that way its not always the strongest climber to win the Tour

[@aliverbirduponmychest3055]

I have been watching the TDF since the mid 1980's, it was and still is the highlight of my year. Phil's, Paul's and Gary's commentary is sorely missed. The Lance Armstrong story was such feel good story, a miracle. Everyone knew they were all doping, it was almost priced into any cycling enthusiasts hero worship of the elite riders fans. I doubt the UCI, TDF or WADA would have made such an example of Armstrong only for his abhorrent behaviour towards towards journalists like Walsh, other riders like Hamilton and Landis, or the things he said and did towards Frankie Andreau's wife and the teams masseuse. What destroyed any respect I had for him as a human being was the shocking attack on one of the sports GOAT Greg LeMond. We all know now they were all doping with steroids and EPO, what is the biggest mystery is how he managed to provide completely clean doping tests? An even bigger mystery is how the current generation manage to crush all records when they are all riding clean, now that is a head scratcher!!!

[@squeakyproductions]

I miss Phil Liggett's commentary, both him and David Duffield.

[@mazpr2025]

You mean Paul!

[@robertoneil9304]

Phill Liggett has the voice of an angel

[@julesvanels6116]

That he used dope for so long and not been caught. I think how many kickbacks have been payed. To also the president of UCI Hein Verbruggen

[@pierrec8563]

Now, imagine Lance in 1999 with a 7.0 kg carbon bike and 11 speeds...

[@Melody615199999]

. . and all his favorite drugs.

[@treygray2817]

He was riding an 8.0 kg 9 speed carbon bike for road stages. How much faster would an extra KG make him?

[@pierrec8563]

@@treygray2817 I don't know how much. But event more faster for sure.

[@standardtuning4guitars423]

might help his ego. but wouldnt change him being stripped of his titles.

[@quinthomas5805]

@@standardtuning4guitars423LOL He still has all his yellow jerseys he was never stripped and He won it against other guys who were also doping so was a level playing field. Get a clue

[@bob.hudson]

The lies remain the same... This year edition will look a lot like this tour.

[@Newtube_Channel]

The thing is it's not realized that doping is going on or that what might be going on is wrong. It's a matter of perspective. Who's to say that given any kind of doping is wrong and where do you draw the line.

[@timotune]

Best times/era in cycling 🥰🥰🥰

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

14:11🚀

[@jerompatterson7223]

Lance is still the GOAT

[@pantanifan]

Great! Can you post please other 90' Tour de France? Thanks!

[@roadracer1584]

I love EPO!

[@marccarter1350]

This was awful late-night coverage we had in the UK in the late 1999's. It was awful then, it's even worse now!

[@nealm6764]

I totally agree.

[@joynestumbado8813]

Idol I'm watching

[@spanishlefty]

5:41 "What a comeback this could be". And it was.

[@dogusbuke2507]

tour is cancelled but not cipolini's record. 🤔i like this kind of controversies. 😄 ITT was amazing :)

[@mauricioluisvega8342]

I remember when I saw the racce. aaaaaaaaah,,,,StrongFail!...

[@leod4315]

Cipo at 36:00 is interesting in light of his current situation

[@prossi4802]

Li e Strong!!

[@p.l.diablo9864]

Unapologetic to this day. That's a scumbag. He defrauded the American people with a tax funded cycling team. Should have done jail time.

[@icarus8471]

Those years were great races. Armstrong did not create the doping problem in cycling. By the early 90s the peloton was a rolling pharmacy with EPO emerging. Armstrong was the best rider of the EPO doping era. There is a reason why after he was officially stripped of his 7 TDF titles, no one else was declared the winner. And all the the govt setting out to destroy Armstrong did was to destroy US cycling without cleaning up the sport at all.

[@TesterAnimal1]

😂😂😂😂 “witch hunt”. “Fake nooos”

[@stockob12]

Armstrong essentially ruined Gregs life for saying he was disappointed that Lance works with Ferrari. He was a psychotic PoS. Read Hamiltons book

[@icarus8471]

@@stockob12-Why should Lemond have said anythingn though? He saw the EPO revolution in the sport first hand, suffered bc of it. Then why should Armstrong doping have upset him?

[@stockob12]

@@icarus8471 you answered your own question lol Lance ruined his name and bankrupted his 20 million dollars a year business because Greg dared speak the truth... he didnt even call lance out, he said it will be the biggest fraud if lance is doping, thats all it took for lance to ruin his life. You are obviously a delusional fanboy if you are defending lance doing that

[@icarus8471]

I know the whole story. Which does not answer my question. Lemond knew what the sport was. And he understood how his business was depending on other companies that were centered around Lance. He says nothing and it would have been fine.

[@jamiepaolinetti5087]

Lance blows by Olano in the Rainbow jersey in the first long TT. Classic! He says see what happens when I level the playing field? Take that dopers.

[@abone2pick]

He only caught him cause he crashed. But he still whopped his ass. 🐐🐐

[@thenazz724]

Just the best doper, nothing to be proud of.

[@jasontoi8628]

Even thou he was convicted of doping,he still raised millions for charity

[@stevek8829]

Never convicted or tested positive.

[@gasken2182]

When asked in interview if he’d do it all again, Lance always says a definite yes. LA career earnings $125m. Fine & lawsuits for doping, $16.5m. So, not surprised he’d do it all again lol

[@ceeesmack]

Lance looks so guilty in that interview 😂

[@adrianj78]

7:58 the first Armstrong lie? He is nervous and is worried that Imlach is suggesting his performance is drug assisted, so he lies, “I don't know the times...,” - rubbish!! We know that USP were into knowing all the details about everything, he even says he knew what times his rivals had!

[@emeraldcitycs6662]

Good catch.

[@nealm6764]

How do you know Lance is lying? When you see his lips moving, he is lying.

[@IronHorsey3]

The Miracle of EPO. US Postal showed best dosing. 😅

[@pierrec8563]

I want to see Vingegaard on a 8.0 kg 9 speed bike... I bet Lance will crush him like a bug.

[@elonif4125]

I mean, Lance was full on EPO, so i would hope so. Even if Vingegaard is doping, it's much "weaker" stuff then Armstrong. Also, Vingegaard is 10 kilo lighter so he should be better in the high mountains

[@niceguy1774]

@elonif4125 but being *that* light in the legs would effect his ability to move such a bike.

[@dansprague2]

@@niceguy1774 No, just no.

[@ivantackes8580]

They tested Armstrong and he was clean and got away with it into a year minute to it cycling was more exciting back then than it is now

[@sukhmaidickoff]

No. Just no. I know your comment is 2 years old now - but you just have to watch TdF of 2022 and you will know that your comment didn´t age well

[@Aegis90]

Well, for all you apologists, it's true Armstrong was part of a bigger problem. But the worst part is how he carried it. When you watch how he came after people even close to him, it's quite disturbing.

[@luisgonzalezalvarez1596]

10 secondes better than indurain in this same time trial..that means at those times miguel did not have a seriuous pretendant behind him to win him in the tours

[@aimiessyou4770]

There are 2 types of dopers: 1. Those few who become great 2. Most of them who still suck

[@jeffhietala1609]

"Le Steroid De France" starring Lance Armstrong!!

[@abone2pick]

You never seen the tour before the lance era huh?😂

[@Medevil9908]

58:09 Someone painted a dong in the road lol

[@g_y.rtz420]

Armstrong and the uci KILLED pantani lets just not forget that

[@pranavkhanna8814]

There are two versions of commentary for this stage

[@SUBTUBESCENT]

wish there was a version without the dramatic sound bed

[@Silligk]

Never mind the doping. Seeing them descend without helmets is scary

[@Calisthenics-vp2ot]

46:32 wow, what a save!!

[@xEKOy]

everyone doped up to 200%, love it

[@christiankeim]

Future shock doesn't make sense to me. We don't absorb impact up and down, redshift I feel kinda figured it out. BMC is going to be adapting them into their builds following season

[@michaelhazell6878]

I'm glad they are racing clean 👍🙏💖😀I would be heart broken if I find out if they are doping.

[@billrose2202]

They should make them smoke weed and drink beer. That's good dope there haha

[@abone2pick]

Back in the 60s they actually did just that

[@needfoolthings]

Mapei should have won every single classement, trying to get out of their horrible rags.

[@nicolasm6621]

2:10:30 : " Given that there was all this stuff in the French papers, are you surprised in a room half full of French journalists but none of the people who have presumably written all the stuff about you have had the nerve to ask you about it face to face ? ". Après avoir fait le petit malin, ce journaliste s'est-il excusé depuis auprès de ses confrères ?

[@lennycottingham]

Even the Red Devil was on dope

[@MONYN76ISLAS]

excellent tour for lancé armstrong .. well deserved victory .. world champion in 93 '... good riders in their time .. excellent video 🚴🚴

[@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158]

That's irony...right 😮?

[@afinkeln]

@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 they are all on something at that level

[@sidritvaqari.svpipesdesign]

Idiot like Armstrong

[@rockymanilow5115]

Doper! 😂

[@paulwall5706]

👍🚴👍

[@AlonsoRules]

Armstrong nearly went through this TdF in yellow wire to wire

[@sukhmaidickoff]

The man with the best doctors win

[@Newtube_Channel]

Yes

[@twright1983]

@1:45:00 Even the Labrador seemed angry at eric the fan for hitting guerini

[@RogueCylon]

What’s your secret Lance? “I will tell you when I retire, and you can hate me more then”.

[@Rebelass74]

In fairness, they were all juiced up.

[@Newtube_Channel]

@@Rebelass74 Not quite. Doping works best in minimal amounts as opposed to maximal amounts.

[@Nojikuzus]

I was there

[@needfoolthings]

1:26:00 AMAZING, this early interview with a pathological liar.

[@dakotamiller6274]

how much fun the TdF was back and what a poor event it is today. Sad; just sad, where we have come to.

[@Ryz414]

The first one Armstrong won. Such a shame how dope just is common place in the Pro Pelton.

[@hoboroller5642]

Dope or no dope, you still up to train and have little luck to win!!