AMTRAK E8's, late 1970's... Bonus, AMTRAK FL9's, 1996

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Amtrak was gritty and grimy in the 1970s, and I love it even though I was born decades after this.

[@1jackdk]

Early Amtrak was really neat. E units from every railroad you can imagine. Thanks for watching...

[@kyoakland]

loganbaileysfunwithtrains just what I was thinking it's looking pretty grimy and straightforward then

[@venturamichael50]

All Railroads were.Especially trains that ran on the Northeast Corridor.No such thing as clean diesel yet.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Michael Ventura it was definitely an awesome time to see a lot of power for those who got to see it in person but it was a rough time for the railroads, guess that’s why there was so many mergers happening at this time like, Chessie System, Family Lines, N&W and UP merger talks (which obviously fell through) N&W joining Chessie System Holdings (again obviously didn’t happen) and the Burlington Northern mergers

[@hakeemsd70m]

I would do anything to see an E8 in action, some of my personal favorite six-axles. What a time it must have been to be alive...

[@1jackdk]

Loved those E8's, always on the top of my list as well.

[@onecolossalrubikscube2554]

@@1jackdk are they preserved

[@LegoTrainFan92]

I'm not sure if it was an e8, but the Indiana Transportation Museum rented an E unit a year or two ago up in Logansport/South Bend

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 Several E8s have been preserved. One unique E8 is Union Pacific #942. It is the only UP E8 to be preserved in UP colors. UP 928 doesn’t count since it’s been largely disassembled and is in sad shape. Really isn’t “preserved”.

[@onecolossalrubikscube2554]

@@blackbirdgaming8147 I mean those Amtrak ones

[@arcadebw]

This was great. If I could back in time to experience this in person, I would. Just long enough for a quick trip. Then back to the future.

[@mikeggg5671]

Sad to think that AMTRAK was so poor, they couldnt afford wash racks!

[@lorumipsum1129]

@Roger Clayton fuck off with that shit

[@GoldenOne131]

Bruh way to insult Amtrak fuck off man

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

That was what they looked like back then

[@ACLTony]

Yet it's so ironic that Amtrak had more trains, routes, and service frequency back then than it does now.

[@mikeggg5671]

@@ACLTony the private railroads had much more service before amtrak, too

[@cehayes74]

Give me Amtrak from the 1970's anytime, that was real RRing back then !!!

[@1990sRailfan]

Roger that!

[@Shinyarc]

ce hayes I agree, they actually had some routes that worked! Kansas City had the Lone Star and it worked! Too bad budget cuts crushed that

[@tibbers3755]

Still is today

[@nancyhernandez7833]

I want the old fp9s back they very special to me

[@lorumipsum1129]

But this was one of Thier worst times. Why would you want that back. Yeah they cut routes, but no one treated them with any respect and the tracks where all shit at the time. I much prefer modern amtrak

[@SpottingWithSam]

Thank you for uploading this! It’s so great to see older videos from days which have long since passed, always been a fan of Amtrak despite living in New Zealand, so this is quite a treat.

[@Eric-sn4qz]

I remember seeing these trains as a kid back in the 70’s. The Hudson line. What a cool sight. Nice flashback vid.

[@FrehleyFan3988]

This is real heirtege here! I rode the Broadway limited when PRR still operated, and when it was on it's last run, I rode it for the last time.

[@NickelPlateMxne]

So you must be one of the oldies huh

[@robertkerr3059]

you were railfanning before railfanning was cool ! thats like finding an Armadillo in Alaska

[@marksprunger8936]

Agreed! Absolutely love the gracefullness of those classic E8's. When I think of railroading in the U.S, E8's always pop up in my imagination!

[@LeeDfined]

For me its the SD40

[@rottenroads1982]

For people who Don’t know, here is how to tell the difference between an EMD E unit, and an EMD F unit: First, look at the Number board. If the number board is squashed into the nose of the locomotive and has more rounded ends, then it’s an E unit. If the Number Boards are sticking out and have a more rectangular shape, then it’s an F unit. Second, look at the Number of wheels per Bogie and locomotive wheel arrangement. If it has a C-C (Co-Co) wheel arrangement, meaning 3 powers axels (6 powered wheels) per Bogie, and 6 powered axels (12 powered wheels) in total, then it’s an E unit, but if it’s a B-B (Bo-Bo) wheel arrangement, with only 2 Powerd Axels (4 powered wheels) per bogie, and 4 powered axels (8 powered wheels) in total, then it’s an F unit. Third, and Finally, look at the length of the locomotive. If it’s longer, it’s an E unit, if it’s shorter, it’s an F unit. PS, Don’t try to deduce E or F units by number of Nose lights, cause it can vary between one and two for both E and F units. And that, my friends, is how you Identify the difference between an E or F unit. And if you Already know this, then You’re welcome anyways.

[@garyrobaska]

you were right about the E units had six wheel bogies, but only four of them were powered. The center axles on the bogies were just coasters to help with the weight and tracking high speeds the E units had 2 emd 567 12 cylinder engine and the f units had one 567 16 cylinder.

[@gustman9048]

I had family that worked for NYC then work for penn central and then Amtrak during that time and now work for the MTA on the Hudson line.

[@Rocketman1583]

Those e8s and fl9s look beautiful! Wish I could say the same about the rolling stock tho:P

[@1jackdk]

That's for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

If I could go back in time to see E units I definitely would! Great video.

[@j.j.foster7002]

Great films and I love the old E-units. I wish that they would have run them through the wash rack a little more back then, even in winter. I used to see similar units (except FL-9s} here in ChiTown.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

amtraks respose,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "whats a wash rack"?

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

I remember back in the late 1970s(ca.1979)at stockyards(cincy.ohio) there was a WM SD40 dirty and faded . then they put it in the wash rack and brought it out. wow! for about 5 minutes when the engine was totally wet, the thing looked like it did when it was brand new, the paint was awesome! then the water evaporated, slowly,,,,,,, when dry, it didnt look much better, but those 5 minutes, I snapped several photos. It was a red/black SD40.

[@mrstepstool]

Shame on Amtrak for running them dirty like that !

[@engineersdash]

mrstepstool They ran better that way.

[@mrstepstool]

:-D .

[@tommythomason6187]

The Penn Central paint scheme looked good on those E8s. Amtrak put all the Es through a reconditioning program when they took over, but they're looking pretty worn, at this juncture. Read in Trains Magazine, long back, that Amtrak approached EMD about building more of the E units, but the carbody blueprint had been thrown away, which made costs for such a locomotive - an E10, so to speak - prohibitive.

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

Im amazed that Amtrak was able to nearly completely transform from a rusted company that people would forget even existed, 50 years later to a bright brand new era of passenger railroading, especially with the upcoming complete fleet modernization. But thats my opinion. The 1970s era looks neat though

[@vectronaut3633]

Thank you very much for uploading this! I especially like the consist at 6:46

[@1jackdk]

That was the westbound Broadway Limited. Thanks for watching...

[@davidbrown4823]

Early Amtrak was something one could model so easily.

[@chicagolandrailroader]

I am a huge fan of early Amtrak and this video is super helpful for painting and modifying models of these engines. Thanks!

[@tibbers3755]

I like sdp40f. They're a favorite of mine. I bought an ho scale model several years ago and i think I might still have it

[@Brickify307]

The Classic e8 are My favorite Classic Locomotives on Amtrak even though they look dirty and old idc and they do go well with the train consist

[@devsworld6399]

Man I love these old good day trains

[@gmp3699]

Excellent video. The E's were the backbone of every railroad coast to coast. Miss seeing them in service. Thanks for the memories and for sharing this footage.

[@scottporter4544]

Old Amtrak is my favorite!! Thank you for the video!!

[@donconklin1770]

Love this Jack! God really does bless people that's for sure. What nice scenery, all gone now. I have a Santa Fe F8ABA set also.... -Don

[@vientheimpostorandtrainfan8508]

Ahh, if I could go back in time so I could see those oldies.

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

Great video man I like the hard work look of these older engines kinda a shame their style is gone but God bless

[@tijuanagringo]

. Thank you so much for this vision of days so recently gone by. :-) .

[@1jackdk]

You bet Danial. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@zuma2679]

Thank you for the great film!!

[@bluedoris88]

I’m moddeling Amtrak early stuff ,this is very useful,thanks,Geoff,UK.

[@jamesyourse6611]

Southern Railroad E8s in the snow bringing a 17 car Crescent south loaded with college students returning from Christmas break with a pint of jack daniels. I will never forget.

[@MrJuvefrank]

There sure were a lot of beautiful trains in New Yuck.

[@johnny5805]

The E8's sound more tractor-y than the E9's.

[@1990sRailfan]

Oh, so classic! Get's the adrenaline flowing.

[@xri0tt]

I love these kinds of videos, they’re extremely fascinating to watch.

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@diceo8995]

the good times when amtrak was classic and old school.

[@thenewpatticakes4214]

You wont believe how many Tyco Ho scale train sets I have that look exactly like those. Great catches, Jack!

[@negevsareforpros9250]

I love how you remastered your old footage, it looks so much better!

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. I just bought some transfer software for redoing my VHS stuff. Big difference. Thanks for watching...

[@Balerio2357]

More great vintage motive power. I really liked SPS45'S at the beginning of the video. Thanks again Jack for posting! - Balerio

[@jmream2618]

Balerio 2357 that's a sdp40f

[@Balerio2357]

Jmream2 Jmream , Oops thanks lol!

[@wallochdm1]

Great video. Love those E's and F's.

[@1jackdk]

Other than the PA's, I loved the E's and F's. Thanks for watching...

[@stevenjohnson7086]

Ha, that's great! Thanks for sharing those movies. I grew up in California and it's always neat to see the East Coast railroading. Thank you for spending the money on an 8mm movie camera that you could capture sound with :)

[@BumberenzoTheFireTruck]

Wow, those trains must’ve been really special!

[@MrPictovid]

Thanks again for posting another great video. watching your video is like being able to go back in time. I find modern railroading boring compared to the early years of amtrak and conrail.

[@1jackdk]

Thanks MrP. It would be so neat if we can actually go back. Holy cow, and with the camera equipment we have today. Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it.

[@cpufreak101]

Just imagine if you had one of the early HD cameras from the late 80's/early 90's. look up 1993 in HD. It's so obviously 1993, but the quality makes it look like it was filmed yesterday

[@8_bit_Geek]

Anyone notice the SDP40F

[@Rocketman1583]

Ya

[@Rocketman1583]

To be honest i kinda like that engine

[@TheDiamondFish]

Yeah I saw it

[@floridianrailauto9032]

It's not like the camera is literally focusing on it or anything

[@nancyhernandez7833]

7:49 omg beautiful horn

[@AppValleyRailProductions]

Rusty Shackleford yes.

[@UTTPRamranch]

Beautiful

[@megansinclair2416]

Well done! It is fun watching the old Amtrak hand-me-downs. Som eof those units look as if they were held together with duct tape and spit.

[@1jackdk]

Your not kidding Megan. Those things where old when Amtrak got them. I sure do miss those old things though. Really sharp looking locomotives. Thanks for watching...

[@Jhihmoac]

I remember seeing some of the old, rebadged locomotives they would purchase (or even lease) from the big railroads when I was a kid... Amtrak was just starting out then, and they still didn't have many of their own customized power units at that time...

[@acuto4245]

0:54 there's a abandoned Amtrak train in my town that looks like that! It's sad to see that trains like these start to rot

[@chicagolandrailroader]

That sucks. Those old engines are worth a lot and hopefully someone gets to preserve it before the scrappers get ahold of it

[@Southern_Pacific]

loved all that old Amtrak film Jack, also subscribed to your channel. Regards from one old trucker to another. Dave

[@soyounoat]

4:51 Big Burly Horn.

[@mikeytrains1]

I wish I could see the 'Rail Breakers' in their heyday.. Loved the video!

[@1jackdk]

Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@mikeytrains1]

jackmp294.5™ Any time! I love your videos.

[@basictransportenthusiast4386]

Fantastic horn on that FL9

[@divox9pqr]

Starting off with the Lakeshore Ltd looking very gritty and grimy. It’s cleaned up and improved quite a bit since then. Guess those Siemens Challengers weren’t on the design board back then.

[@hohobbyist1098]

Proof that Amtrak wasn't always terrible.

[@stevensolway1054]

NATIONAL RAILROAD MUSEUM in Green Bay Wisconsin formerly had E9A MILWAUKEE ROAD 38A donated in April 1987 that needed restoration but the Chief Director was Suddenly Fired in Sept. 1989. Yet several other managers come and go. But in 2008 the other new manager SCRAPPED 38A-E-9-A-M for onl a few dollars 💸 bye!!! He was fired 🔥 ; but sadly he sold out 7 diesels like the 2(two) unique 1949 E.M.D. BL-2's that arrived in 2001 from the WSORR Shortline; and the 2 BL2S were a perfect matching for the 1956 EMD AEROTRAIN 2 CLASS LWT12!!! BUT: the two BL2S were sold to NEW YORK and fully rebuilt for both freight and excursions, and repainted Blue, and many videos 📹 on KZbin!! But The New York shortline rr went Bancrupt!!! But the 2/BL2S were re-sold to Ohio and still running in 2023 excursions.

[@sotomanuel3]

Amtrak in 1973, people: you suck Amtrak in 1976 people: omg what, i like that engine(f40ph) I'm going to leave the car at rest The car: who laugh of last, laugh better

[@barroningram7286]

at 6:42 that had to be the broadway with latch up, i remember the crescent when it was powered with E8s it was a long train like that

[@masteristscalerailroadmodels]

Nice footage: lots of jointed track still around.

[@1jackdk]

That was the era they were just putting in welded rail. Sure miss the sound of jointed rail. Thanks for watching...

[@muhammadfadhiil3430]

R.I.P Old Amtrak Era 1970 1990

[@1jackdk]

Wish we could go back to see this one more time.

[@janetlim2743]

Hey at least we have the p42's

[@_PTS__1]

7:45 Its weird hearing an FL9, a 50s locomotive, with Nathan K5LA horns (that’s what I think it has).

[@sergefeuze9249]

And those e units are so cool I want to see them and those are better than Amtrak's sdp40fs😇😇😇😇😇

[@ianhudson9398]

1996? Must have been asleep when I was there cos I missed all the Es.....

[@1jackdk]

Oh man! That's not good Ian. Gotta love those E units. Thanks for watching...

[@RJARRRPCGP]

Looks like a forsythia blooming at 7:54 (yellow flowers and a yellow bush) They usually bloom in April...

[@glendenig9962]

Great video! Thanks! Reminds me of living near Chicago in the mid seventies.

[@1jackdk]

Glad you enjoyed it Glen, and thanks for watching...

[@aplinewalker]

Great old footage ,,,, many thanks ,,,

[@kevinhoward9593]

I read somewhere Albany Station was the last thing Penn Central could afford to do on its own.

[@TrainsNStuff]

Awesome stuff you got there!!! Subbed!

[@kyoakland]

These trains look like they wanted to run you over and went through a fire I love it!!

[@sergefeuze9249]

Did I just see pen central e units🤨

[@rottenroads1982]

The Fact that their was an EMD F unit pulling Passenger Trains in the 1990’s proves that Any locomotive, despite their age, could be used.

[@sammarachino5427]

hi, Jack. I live in Juniata county and have been thru Cove and Marysville. boy, I would have loved to have seen Enola yards in full swing.. I am a TCA member. if u live close snuff, we could connect

[@8_bit_Geek]

sammorxman

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

trains 30-31, "national limited" transitioned to SDP40-Fs in the 1970s. Then PC/CR got a burr up the @SS regarding the dash(-2)trucks, which SDP40-Fs ran on. so, amtrak went back to E8-9s almost till the end when some F40-PHs showed up. remember, CR ordered SD40-2s with the older SD40 truck assemblies.

[@grandson_0623]

I feel like the 70s clips look better than the 90s ones for some reason.

[@herbertrodriquez6456]

Walthers has the best replicas of those Amtrak passenger cars as well as phase I E8's and Fp-7's. Rapido has the best replicas of Fl 9's,

[@robk1310]

It’s a shame those beautiful locos were allowed to get so filthy. I wish they kept them cleaner.

[@SDRP_4406]

Great footage!

[@slorznovitch]

Excellent!

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching...

[@NorthEasternMotionProductions]

6:20 what a bad s5t

[@SamZarifYT]

Big Boy Pasta I mean most of them, if not all 5 chime leslies sound horrific

[@marktufts7756]

awesome video

[@dwells77]

What a great video!

[@1jackdk]

Glad you enjoyed it dwells. Sure miss those days. Thanks for watching...

[@trevorsmith8466]

The rainbow era and phase I are my favs

[@seawalkers4246]

Also nice to see a SDP40f

[@Dexter037S4]

Early AMTRAK and Early VIA were the shit, hell even now VIA is great to railfan, although come next year the P42s will be gone and the F40PHs and HEP2s will likely be transferred to Keewatin to finally replace the old yellow and blues.

[@ralphmccormick7815]

I just love trains

[@1jackdk]

For sure Ralph! and older stuff, whats not to love! RIGHT! Thanks for watching...

[@christopherdibble5872]

The engineers don't wave from trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.

[@CM-wt3vn]

why cant i find any video of a SCL e8 with family lines paint? ive seen pics but no video

[@sal3060]

Cheeze No such thing. You saw one of the two ex Clinchfield F units that got FL paint. SCL went into Amtrak in 1971, several years before FL paint made its first appearance.

[@tractorsmachinesro1405]

Epic Video ...Big like & subscribe from Romania....Thumbs up my friend

[@michaellocke48]

Someone new to wash that dirty E8 locomotives… look dirty for a year… however this is the workhorse of the engines.2… I’ve seen many E8 when I was little

[@mccoy79productions66]

Nice!

[@easternontariorailfan8132]

Great video Jack! Are some of these Rail lines still around?

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes. Those all these rail lines are still in heavy service. Thanks for watching...

[@joshteshek1155]

The one thing that triggers me is that they have all the coaches but there’s no observation car!

[@tomtodd7744]

What exactly did you mean by the text you put in on 5:17 ? Also, nice catch on that SDP40F at the beginning. Do you have any other videos showing those?

[@1jackdk]

I was talking about where I parked my truck. Right be hind me. When I turned around to follow the train past, there was my truck, and I was trying to shoot over the roof. I have other videos on E units scattered in my collection. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJOsdGl_ppeqeJKcttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKCXnJp7pa2Ag5qcttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2PNZ6WgltuNhbc

[@onecolossalrubikscube2554]

@@1jackdk are the amtrak F units preserved

[@1jackdk]

@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 Not sure. If there are any, probably went back to the original railroads paint scheme...

[@actioncom2748]

@AmtrakGuy365 - I have a question. Where did streamliners like the ones at 1:05 fit in? Where those legitimate engines for people? And what did Amtrak do with them?

[@AVeryRandomPerson]

Wrong channel.

[@actioncom2748]

@@AVeryRandomPerson Where could I find that information?

[@RailPreserver2K]

Also at 7:59 was that amtraks last working fl9 because it looked freshly painted when it passed was it like on its last run or something because I know some railroads usually they try to spruce up the engine cosmetically when it's on its last run

[@chandlerbranchrailfanprodu5928]

The railroad was run by the government in many places back then.

[@daveconnell5434]

Well done! Who did the Super-8 to digital transfer for you?

[@1jackdk]

Charles Smiley transfered all my 8mm to digital in return for use of some of my matterial. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@ontariorail1251]

youtube is the closest thing we have to a timeline

[@frederickschulkind8431]

Spot right off in the first view, SDP40F's, which had a nasty habit of detailing.

[@SOULER820]

Nice panning job anyway. Wish the other masses of "rank amateurs" knew how to do this.