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03:20 - Updates
04:45 - On the road
06:49 - Top Speed run
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[@marshmellow377]

I have swapped from a 67 plate M140i to a 73 plate M135i and what a difference. Its more of a daily driver, a lot more fun, a lot more comfortable, and brings more of a smile to my face!!! Very very happy with my decision!

[@russodean2]

Nice to hear. I'm thinking of selling my 2018 m240i for one of these. Test drove one. Handling and driving dynamics is so much better.

[@marshmellow377]

@@russodean2 you won’t regret it! It’s more of a daily practical car in my option. Can fold the seats down, put a bike in the back and have fun at the same time

[@retrojb101]

Joe, I nearly bought a new m135 last year but decided against it and held out for a bit longer. Thanks to your videos I just collected on Thursday a lovely hockenheim silver M2 Comp with some Michelin boots. 😁

[@Richard--99]

That a biiiiiiiiig upgrade lol, congrats on the amazing car

[@aidenp5768]

Yea, definitely worth the wait

[@webfreakz]

well done sir!

[@skfunk4550]

yes, get in. welcome to the M2 family

[@armedessential]

Now thats a choice for the better

[@ScrotyMcDickface]

We paid for a 128ti in May 2021. Chose a decent spec. Obviously the 128ti is the better car than the 135, but man.... the shit-about with BMW was something I wouldn't go through again. Like I said, we ordered it in May 2021. The thing was put back from July, to September, November, to December, to February, to March... Then, we were told it was in the UK and...it didn't have the uprated sound system, or the 19" wheels. 'Here's your car, don't fuck about because we both know if you don't take it you'll be waiting another year.' Oh, by the way they charged us more money for a lower spec car. It was delivered in April 2022. I know the world is weird at the moment, but if your BMW dealer ignores your emails and phone calls and you get that gut feeling that you're being ripped off, just pull out of the sale as quickly as you can.

[@db21071979]

I have the pre-update one and all I can say is that is practical and by not being loud as a stock car fits my needs of not calling for the police attention when I am driving a little bit spirited... 😉 Also is fun to drive, I have an old RWD Jaguar with no ESP, traction control or anything and manual gearbox. The M135i is more like an every day car that can give lots of fun on the commute or when going to appointments/shopping.

[@truthhandlers3000]

Hi Joe, I suspect the torque steer in the pre-update version came from the horrible OEM run flats that was hard and offered insufficient grip. Soon as I put some 19s on with PS4S on my M135i torque steer went away and improved dramatically in corners

[@adrianbriggs2763]

Never had torque steer on mine.... 19inch and the PS4s on......

[@jonesy-rh5fk]

Nice one Joe, and nice one BMW; I always thought the M135i was held back, the Clubman JCW always felt much more characterful, boisterous and rear driven in my eyes, and also the reason why my parents have one each, so its great to see they’ve addressed it as a matter of priority not even waiting for the facelift.

[@johnj287]

This is one of the first of your videos that I’ve been able to bring myself to watch in ages. I bought a new M135i LCI and then in 2018 a brand new M240i on the strength of your videos. My 240i got nicked when it was only 6 months old though, and then covid cost me my business so I couldn’t and still can’t replace it. I’ve missed your videos though and think I’m healed enough now to not cry 😭😂 Right, let’s go through all those videos I’ve missed!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks John, sorry to hear you e gone through a tough couple years... Finger crossed everything turns around this year 👊

[@tonybaker9266]

I have a 21 plate M135i. Haven’t really notice torque steer being a problem. I did test drive a 128 ti and found it lots more fun. I wanted to order a new one but due to chip shortage upgraded sound system was available. Bought a 3 month old M135i instead with pro pack for £35k which means cheaper road tax too. 4WD is brilliant especially on greasy winter roads. Only minor criticism is the front end which feels a lot heavier and less responsive than the 128ti. Looks like a worthy improvement. Unfortunately I’m unlikely to find out anytime soon as I love my current one. Great report.

[@roadreg1820]

Awesome review Joe. I think they’ve made enough changes to make that car a really tempting 2022 hot hatch purchase. Looks fantastic in that colour too.

[@harryfff09]

i don’t understand the hate these things get🔥

[@TeacherToolkitDemo]

Nice car but people loved the old one. If it had the B58 you would see them absolutely everywhere.

[@harryfff09]

@@TeacherToolkitDemo it would be a monster, however wouldn’t be in the same class that it’s aimed at A35, golf r, S3 etc and would be slower than the RS3, A45 etc so it’s a strange one. But I think they will make a M140i with the B58 don’t worry 😉😉😉

[@aidenp5768]

It’s cool for a fwd hot hatch but that’s not where the 1 series started, it was a RWD hatch, that’s why people dislike it. It’s like making a 3 series fwd, that’s basically a luxury civic if they did that.

[@mrjamesmay3548]

The m140i was a great car but people are looking at it with rose tinted glasses and are forgetting it’s faults. They new m135i seems to fix most of the handling issues from the sounds of it and is most likely the quicker car in a track battle.

[@robertreid9079]

@@harryfff09 I have the M140i and would swap it for the new 135i mainly because it looks better,has four wheel drive,and more rear passenger space. I thought they have said that the inline 6 engine will not fit in engine bay of new design?

[@richardhowell9007]

I ordered mine last August and is due to arrive in the next few weeks. Cannot wait now having watched this! Thanks

[@grahamhowe8093]

Another great review Joe, and in fact off the back of this very video I went out and bought the very same car in the same colour with MP kit fitted. It was a similar story for the M2C that I gad previously, which also was influenced by your videos!! BMW owe you a fortune I’d say!!

[@jonathanbishop6996]

One of my biggest regrets is cancelling my 1 Series order. But they forced a near 13 month wait on me and I just couldn’t hang on to my other car that long. So here I am, watching with vicarious glee as you whip around in what could have been. Great vid, lovely motor!

[@madmaxx8800]

I own M235i and i love it…Straight six has a lovely sound…Can’t wait of yours m2 comp videos👍

[@juliankent8875]

Another brilliant video Joe. Thanks for answering my question by the way, I mentioned your height because a friend of my dads who is quite tall had said that the previous 2 series felt cramped. Anyway, I really like that 220i. I think it just looks right. I think you made a really good point about the 230i. When the F 3 series came out and they introduced the 328i, it looked great. I can remember reading the article on it and I thought they were going to be the way forward. I don't think I've ever seen one. Anyway Joe, you're doing a cracking job and we love your videos. looking forward to the next one.👍

[@reidashton4280]

Last August my wife took delivery of a 235i gran coupe and she loves it. It's her company vehicle and is leased. Originally it was going to be the 220i but I chipped in and convinced her for the small increase to the monthly payments she might as well get the flagship model. Due to shortages it doesn't have variable suspension but the fixed set-up does a good job even on the rubbish roads here in Australia. The car has always had the pops and crackles especially on start up but unless you want to lose your licence there's no way short of going to a track day you're ever to to test the capabilities of the car. One thing I like is the heads up display which appears to be missing from the 135i you're driving. Is this due to the semi conductor shortages?

[@nigelandrews5617]

Great review Joe. Love the colour!!

[@peterbennpan7288]

Finally........ Been waiting for this since you mentioned it on FB or Instagram! So if I'm scheduled a build date sometime in September will it be this updated version or the previous one? 👍

[@paulchapman6826]

Great to see the tweaks have made all the difference 👏

[@mattpowe]

Great review. We have had one for a couple of years and have enjoyed living with it even compared to Yaris GR and 981 Cayman Gt4 which have been in the garage over the same time period. New changes sound good, also looking forward to the 2023 facelift which had some media coverage this week.

[@EzzaLeo]

Another great review 👍 I presume these same changes have been made to the M235i Gran Coupe?

[@afisher0613]

Brilliant bit of driving Joe.

[@garyclark6747]

The front quarter camera shot resembles a smiling face with the obvious nostrils, headlights being eyes the lower grill as a smile with the two air vents being dimples. Man is that looking good‼️

[@ianwhittaker3640]

Good video, excellent roads. Looks a good place for a road trip!

[@L77yma]

Thank you for all the car content Joe.

[@shaunsmith3202]

Cracking video joe, getting mine in a few weeks

[@markrhoden68]

Yes finally, shared on m135i FB groups 👏 Having a 2022 build and having never driven the older model many of us were curious about the differences in sound pops and bangs and driver feel. You've answered a few questions discussed on our groups many times.

[@davidbillberg2203]

The colour makes it go faster...or? The older M135i I really liked alot.

[@MY-mp6bq]

I only saw 1 on the road since it came out. I do 30.000km a year and i live in Belgium. I mean bmw one of the most sold brands here. That does say alot

[@stephenlane9168]

I’m enjoying the sounds Joe 👏I’m very impressed with this M135i 👌

[@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj]

Great video! Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think they have lengthened the gear ratios from fifth gear onwards. If you compare you accelerating in this model, compared to an earlier model which autotopnl drove on the autobahn

[@kofib3]

I just wonder if this latest 1 series had the same drive train engine layout as the last generation, would it be more respected in this body shape despite some or most hating the grille (though I prefer this grille to the 4 series).

[@andymccarthy9058]

great video, can't wait to get mine... I'm reading that PS4s * marked are only available in Europe currently.. was there any comments during your briefing about the UK spec cars.. Not seen any 2022 cars with Michelin yet...

[@stevenduncan3392]

awesome video as always. But you have made my life harder i have been looking at these in Australia but like the 2020-21 model but now i want to look at new models😂😂😂😂😂

[@RickTheSpud]

I think I prefer the look of the 18s, so I think I'll buy one of those M135s with the adaptive suspension, but in white! 😎👌 Great video buddy, very informative too. 🤜

[@runeandersen908]

Go get the 140i :D

[@RickTheSpud]

@@runeandersen908 M240... 😎👌

[@stickshifter8]

Amazing color!

[@TeacherToolkitDemo]

Long live the B58

[@DjNikGnashers]

Still keeping my M140i, there is no way this M135i will ever replace it.

[@rh6777]

Would have quite liked this updated version with Nardo grey paint. However, having got mine in 2021 when the PCP was still 2.9%, when discounts were still high, I got an absolute deal on a new storm Bay car, with Pro pack and park assist, for what is an absolute steal in today's market!

[@janm2596]

Love the colour :D

[@santana9537]

Was considering an a35 hatchback but knew I wouldn’t have even liked it enough to register my private plate on it which then didn’t make any sense to buy In the end went for a motech M135i and I’ve loved it ever since with no regrets!

[@LloydBMWSouthLakes]

Great video 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Daniel189HLL]

Looks nice!

[@davidpalmer3131]

How can you easily distinguish between this updated version and the previous one? I want to make sure i get these updates when either order a new one or i look for a newish second hand one in a few months time.

[@buschhans9018]

Hey Joe, great update video. :) I would still be interested in the exact updates of the adaptive suspension. Have they changed the same or just as much as the m-sport-suspension? Thanks!

[@rh6777]

Adaptive is pointless if you want the benefit of the changes. The changes only apply to the passive setup, which is crazy, but true!

[@edwardhann]

Great review Joe! I know this car has got a lot of hate since coming out but it’s great to see how objective you are about it. I’ve got one myself, I did ‘upgrade’ the exhaust within the first few months because it just sounded dead. Also the pops and bangs seem to be totally random, some cars seem to make more than others; mine does it on start-up when it’s already warm but not much more than that. Glad that they’ve upgraded the tyres too as the potenzas are understeer city and I’ve found have been poor for durability. Good car though but like a lot of 4wd hot hatches, a bit clinical and I look forward to driving our other less powerful car more often.

[@iansneddon74]

Interesting what you say about the original f40 torque steer.I can't say I've experienced it in mine. Maybe I need to drive harder😁

[@cfbm125]

I can’t say I experienced torque steer either, understeer however, there was loads!!

[@GBFeb72]

Still loving my M135i

[@Kukaraaa]

always on point with shoes

[@realmusicreallife]

Looks like a class ,

[@alanb6264]

Great vid as normal Joe. I sold my 69 plate M340i and am awaiting delivery of my M135i. I have to wait until August though ;-(

[@lewisvincent7479]

Thanks for the video Joe! I’ve just ordered one through bma deals, build date of September, can’t wait! Even more excited now Although interesting that you say cars have had these updates since November as I'm still seeing UK cars being delivered with Bridgestones

[@MrScootmcg]

Good luck. I ordered last October with delivery for March, its just been pushed back again until August.

[@TRMHD]

Mine came with Bridgestone and I picked up last weekend

[@lewisvincent7479]

@@TRMHD but do you have the fake pop and bangs?

[@Chris-yg3nj]

This is the best 4WD hot hatch out there, period. Merc A45 is too rough on the road (and overpriced) for daily driving and the RS3 has a shit interior (way over priced as well) and the Golf R is decent but the build quality also suffers. You don't lack anything with circa 310bhp and the 450nm is so usable and you don't feel a huge torque gap over the 500nm on the Audi or Merc due to BMW's power delivery. Explains why it's such a popular car! Hoping for next year to be able to spec the carbon buckets when it comes with 4 exhausts 😂

[@nearlyretired7005]

It's not 4WD!

[@archer8096]

I have just part ex’d my F40 M135i XDrive. Mine was the 2020 model in Stormbay. I came from having a 2017 F21 120d M Sport as a daily driver. I found the Aisin gearbox to be less responsive and lacked that almost telepathic ability the ZF gearbox had to know exactly what gear to be in. Additionally, what I have now found to be a fairly common issue with the F40 b48 is a rattle/tappy sound under hard acceleration - I have read on various forums that this could be the high pressure fuel pump or wastegate? Apparently the ‘official’ fix is for BMW to provide what is effectively a sound proofing cover if your F40 suffers with this?! Very annoying if you go for a spirited drive with the windows down. It was a staggeringly quick car though when driven on less than ideal roads and weather conditions! I drive a Z4 now which is a night and day difference in terms of gearbox response and performance (good old ZF 8 speed again!). If you are contemplating buying an F40 M135i and are coming from a BMW with a ZF auto box, I would definitely recommend an extended test drive to see what you think about the new Aisin ‘box and also listen for any engine rattle under hard acceleration 😊

[@giovannig4369]

This or the new 230i coupe (only considering driving fun)? Thanks!

[@The_journeyy]

*This colour bangs car looks very clean* 😍

[@paulhudghton8]

How can you tell if your car has the new updates? The cars I'm seeing coming onto UK market are still on Bridgestones

[@MotechPerformance]

Can’t wait to do some bits on a São Paulo yellow one

[@stevealexander6928]

Hey Motech- Whats youre price on supplied and fitted eibach springs on the 2021 m15i X pls?

[@2bunphettered788]

Amazing roads. 👍

[@janbritt1843]

Small correction concerning the camber of the updated suspension. The camber is now -1° on the front. Was -0°50' before, so the 25% additional camber was duly needed. -2° is the camber on the rear axle.

[@andreaalligri901]

where can i have those information? please help bro!

[@janbritt1843]

@@andreaalligri901 what do you mean? What information are you looking for?

[@Koko-pg8wu]

Did those updates also come to the m235i gran coupe????

[@billionbear]

This review has firmed up decision of whether to opt for a 128ti or go for the M135i.... M135i it is.

[@peterbennpan7288]

So this press car will sound like what the M135i's that will come to the UK?

[@Daniel189HLL]

Nice motor that, great daily imo.

[@adams7405]

Challenging the Golf R but still sounds like my old cortina with a blown exhaust compared to my E39 Alpina.

[@Theurgicnick]

Mine is due to be built week 20/05/2022 so I’m hoping I get the revised model. Even is I get shitty Bridgestones I’ll just swap them for some proper rubber.

[@Rhyso97]

Currently driving a 2020 M135i, had it from new and it’s just over two years old. I love it, great car and have enjoyed it since day one! However I have recently been wanting something a bit more, more power and more fun I guess. So when I took it for a service in March I ordered the new M240i in Portimao Blue w/ cognac leather and mostly all boxes ticked including sunroof. Haven’t had a test drive yet but watched a lot of videos on it, what should I be expecting Joe? What’s the car like in comparison to the M135i? Thanks!

[@samuelchopard]

I’m considering to do the same upgrade. I hope Joe can comment on this :)

[@russodean2]

Went and test drove a earlier year model of this car yesterday. The Guy let me take it out by myelf from the dealership. Biggest difference from my M240i is the handling. Wow! Does the 135i xdrive stick to the road. It was real wet out and this thing was so sure footed. It just needs a crazier and exhaust and intake. More sound will up the fun factor. Definitely lacks noise and drama. Otherwise it's an awesome bit of kit. I've decided to keep my m240i for another year. Although I wish it handled more like the 135i. You can't beat that engine. I also really like the interior of my car compared to the more newer 'digital' looks

[@Rik_D]

I've had an M135i for a couple of years. The Gearbox ruins it, Just the lack of response. Approaching a junction, if you let off the throttle and then decide to go, you can literally count to three before the car actually does anything. Same with pulling away. You can sort of cure it by putting the gearbox into sport mode, but then it's revving its arse off all the time. They also put crappy Bridgestone tyres on, so they inspired no confidence at all in the car.

[@666DW]

It’s a trait that affects ZF gearboxes not just the Aisin type!🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alisonsmith3817]

Looks nice just needs the larger rear wing

[@sdelliott]

Great review Joe - I’m really liking the M135i

[@berniehf]

Cheers from Costa Rica

[@mrjamesmay3548]

Wahoo just in time for my bubble bath 🛀 🏎

[@tuka5871]

BMW. Every. Day. 💪🏽

[@billx4266]

Nice review, but is it as good as the clubsport golf, if i remember, you amuzed yourself in?

[@iainf6]

Even better with some Motech mods 👍🫶🥰

[@jason-si4mq]

Hi when did they update car looking to buy one second hand

[@johnfranklin6394]

Great video Joe! I wondered how much the new M135i had adopted the 128ti setup, and you answered that one. I have the 128ti, and ticked the performance tyre option. I ended up with Pirelli P Zeros! So, there is no guarantee that you will get PS4’s on the 128ti if you tick that box. I was told that BMW use a range of performance tyres based on availability at time of manufacture.

[@neilturner6749]

Am I right that ticking “performance tyres” simply deletes the standard run-flats?

[@C22RLD]

same here, theyre ok though IMO the PZ4

[@johnfranklin6394]

@@C22RLD I think mine have improved with a bit of wear. However, I have seen reviewers claim that the Michelin PS4's have better ride comfort than the Pirelli's, as well as superior grip. Oh well.

[@TRMHD]

Picked mine up last weekend, can confirm it came with Bridgestone tyres so not sure that’s a UK thing

[@robertmitev1202]

Nope I've also got the Bridgestones and I'm in Australia.

[@MichaelJohnson-pl7yu]

Please tell me this will be available in north America 😩

[@samuelchopard]

I really wish we can get the sound update on the M135i’s made the previous years. The M135i I test-drove had pops and bangs, but not the one that was delivered to me... and the sound is a huge selling point for these cars so it does make a difference.

[@neilturner6749]

Interesting that the pops and bangs seem to be on very early 2019 cars and were maybe gone by late 2020 examples. Presumably that ties in with the EU noise legislation enforcement dates? Anyone with “insider” factory knowledge to confirm this?

[@JL-sl7mq]

Any experiences/ news on that subject?

[@samuelchopard]

@@JL-sl7mq Nope :( I did contact BMW in my country and they told me that they weren't planning to send the sound update to cars made the previous years.

[@JL-sl7mq]

@@samuelchopard sad to hear buddy.. I am still waiting for an answer from BMW tho.. (Switzerland). If not, I hope the remus Exhaust will enhance the sound a little bit :)

[@samuelchopard]

@@JL-sl7mq I am also considering getting a Remus exhaust, but worried about the warranty... And I also contacted BMW Switzerland, I'm curious to know if they give you a different answer. :)

[@benpoole3730]

Does anyone know how to spot one of these updated models when buying a pre owned m135i?

[@Ashton_2176]

If only BMW sell the M135i here in America, I'd Buy it right away in the heart beat!

[@dalerobertson7103]

Ok I am a sub now 💪🥃🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@umairrehman4819]

Anyone know if the M235i Gran Coupe has also received the same treatment?

[@xBlease]

If you had to choose between the m135i and golf 8r which one would you go for?

[@leefoster8015]

If you want outright performance and fun factor MK8 R. BMW is a miles better allrounder and interior and infotainment wins hands down.

[@momosan888]

Hi Joe, great review. I currently have the pre-update m135i. How do you feel the m135i perform compare to the Cupra Formentor VZ 310? I’m of two minds as to whether to sell the m135i and get the Formentor… which do you think is the more fun car?

[@stevealexander6928]

0-60 in my M135i xdrive 2021 ive had at 4.29 and 4.27 seconds so id hope this would be as quick surely....I'll watch the full vid now...So... After watching the full vid im now wondering if there might be a software update for us Pre-revised M135i XD owners, both pops and bangs,regardless of organic or not and that gear box software update, that'd be nice also. Ive had 2 M240i coupe's in the past and i quite agree with Joe, the B58 coupled to the ZF box was a fantastic piece of work, but i always felt it couls be better and that would be the M2 no doubt. I then changed to my M135i XD and found that this car was a lot more fun and felt so much more planted, no more high speed floatyness and in the corners im damn sure the M135i XD would have the edge over the M240i no doubt. The only thing i wish the M135i did have is another 50 bhp and a little more torque as after driving in the Lake District last week im positive the chasis would love it.

[@mattyoz0]

what a load of shit.

[@Lmbarrett83]

Those 0-60 figures don't sound reliable. The F40 M135i is probably the only model i've seen recently where by the manufacturer quoted figures are accurate. The German's normally understate the 0-60. Very capable car when pitted against the MK7 -7.5 golf, MK3 S3 and the A35. The Golf r MK8 and MK4 S3 have raised the bar again in terms of performance.

[@stevealexander6928]

@@Lmbarrett83 Well unfortunately for you they are exact, i was there and saw it with my own eyes, infact i did the launches. I dont expect to post the results without critism simply because either you dont launch the same or warm your tires up the same, or the days weather conditions werent the same, so believe what you want.

[@Lmbarrett83]

@Steve Alexander Certainly not unfortunate as my M135i will finally arrive in early June after ordering last July. Of all the reviews I've seen with the car and with the reviewer using specialist timing gear not one has reached your claimed figures. So may be you recorded them, but then I seriously have to question your "specialist timing gear" and conditions. I.e a phone, a down hill slope e.t.c The car will be quick enough for me and I'm happy they've made the my22 updates. Not sure about the fake interior sound, but I'll reserve my judgement until I hear it for myself.

[@stevealexander6928]

@@Lmbarrett83 Fortunately, i dont have to justify what i got or how i did it even though i think it would have been a good idea in hindsight to actually record the launches-My bad.

[@armedessential]

I think this car looks great but i just managed to get an m140i and usually newer is better but theres no way i would trade it for this lol its far from perfect but the potential is huge

[@KelvinSoFitness]

100%

[@C22RLD]

Joe can you enquire whether owners of the 2020-21 cars inc the 128ti will be able to get the active sound update too? Many owners are asking on Fb and forums about it but nobody has the contacts to enquire.

[@Chris-yg3nj]

+1

[@samuelchopard]

+1

[@JL-sl7mq]

Any experiences/ news on that subject?

[@thabo5799]

With the release of the M240i, I am now curious what they will do with the M140i. Hopefully they go with the rear wheel bias.

[@neilturner6749]

As Joe says, M240 Coupe uses the 3-Series (designed for RWD) platform so there’s no mechanical commonality with the 1 series or 2 series Gran-Coupe platform (designed for FWD), even though both chassis’s can be adapted to utilise 4WD models.

[@peppederosa7939]

Will software sound update be released for 2021 model? ? Thanks

[@hustlechannel8061]

Any info?

[@gregoryuk]

The cabin looked a bit small for you Matey.

[@paulwelsh4468]

I orderd the m235i in march and its arriving week 25, will it have the same updates as this car ?? 🤞🏻 Great review Joe keep em coming 😎

[@webfreakz]

that quick? i checked for a regular Golf and it would be Q4

[@paulwelsh4468]

When we built it for order bmw said September build date, but when they sent the order off they got the june build date so i was very happy

[@neilturner6749]

@@webfreakz I believe the Gran Coupe is a poor seller so there’s not much of a waiting list. VW dealers currently quoting 9 months just for a standard Polo here in the UK!

[@B2KJFF]

Do the m lights have different suspension to m sport cars I.e does a 320i have diff suspension to m340i?

[@neilturner6749]

Interesting question, but you’ll never know the exact answer as manufacturers don’t disclose detailed information such as spring and damper rates. Even if the actual shock absorber is the same make/model (eg Koni Red series) it can be set to very different rebound rates and to support different loads. Don’t forget that a 3.0 litre six B58 engine is notably heavier than a 2.0 B48 four and requires stiffer suspension just to maintain the same ride height, and will need to be set stiffer again if the 3.0 car has ultra-low suspension like a full fat M car.

[@B2KJFF]

@@neilturner6749 oh I see. Thanks for this

[@johnmitchell2269]

How much understeer does it have in comparison to the rwd m140i?

[@JohnTPapadopoulos]

oversteereing should be the problem 🤣kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXWXomWappp-jbs

[@christianolsen9781]

Another awesome review 👌 As they have similar base prices and on paper performance - what would you choose for a daily (will never go to track): Base M135i or base Cupra Formentor VZ2? And why.

[@momosan888]

Hahaha I have the same question. Am deciding whether it’s worth selling the m135i to jump into the Formentor

[@ekimandersom4478]

Whats the name of the color?

[@slen6293]

18s and adaptives or 19s and passive is the question for this on UK roads?!

[@neilturner6749]

Or you could ask yourself “am I 50yrs old or 25yrs old?” because that’s the biggest determining factor - it’s horses for courses!

[@NickG24]

To me torque steer should be part and parcel of a hot hatch, otherwise it will feel pretty numb.

[@robertmitev1202]

As an owner of a current 2021 135 let's hope these artificial ASD sound and trans updates filter down, would also love to increase front camber, and can't wait to remove these crap Bridgestones for decent rubber.

[@JL-sl7mq]

Did you manage to get an update for the said things?

[@robertmitev1202]

@@JL-sl7mq Nothing as yet, tbh I dont think BMW will release any update for the aforementioned, but I dont plan on keeping it long.