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[@tarik365]

20 minute imp, bombard canons, monks, scorpions. Only Viper

[@lamegamer4607]

NO SLING EITHER! THE HELL!

[@camilohernandezruiz2776]

Biz civ helped it a lot too because advancing to Imp costs -33% but is surprising anyway

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

Byzantines is the only civ that can pull off such a fast imp and win. Turks will just get outlasted if their initial fast imp push fails.

[@thisnicklldo]

23 minutes 34 secs to get through the wall with bombard cannons - insane.

[@daniel96jg]

I dont get this....imp was at just over 12 min in the video, why is it saying 20min imp time then? Is it because it is a sped up game somehow and normaly the time would be 20 min?

[@rxdntpto]

wow watching viper play makes me realize how nooby i am. by the time he has 27 vills and clicking up im losing a vil to a boar and unsuccessfully luring deer while not having enough food for vills so i can get a lumber camp smh

[@ashmonkey2572]

just a tip. dont lure deer. you can lure deer when you got all other things down.

[@anhdungtranngoc5949]

Watch more of his replay. He usually lures deer while eating second boar. If deer is not easy to lure, like stuck behind tree line, then just dont lure them, a mill would probably do you better. Second boar is like the calmest time, since youre tasking your 6 7 next vills to the 4 last sheep and wood, so you can focus on the scout more

[@adoschtinad]

Dude at your level (and mine) it's sufficient to send 4 vils to gather deer. With 4 vils you can gather all the food in one trip and while it's not AS efficient, deer luring is considered a very advanced tactic and the food is still worth it.

[@lml1501]

I can totally relate

[@stuartkynast2679]

you think thats bad, i lose my vil to a dear and fail to lure a boar

[@SeuDigao]

Total disrespect. Do it again.

[@mrjakkiebah]

its a valid tactic?

[@Tocaraca]

Hugo vR No it’s not. That’s why it’s not in the meta.

[@Masonsartshack]

-Gets to imperial age -Researches horse-collar

[@TheLovestwospooge]

MASTAPIECE

[@michaelpothoven1041]

I consider myself half decent, but sometimes I can't even get to Castle Age at 19:43 I mean dayum

[@thearianrobben]

@16:41: 10 longswords chasing one longsword, 2 monks and 4 bombard cannons.. then at 17:00: 5 dead, 2 converted and 3 running back.

[@ranghildsbil]

16:49 to 17:00 bugger me that's insane.

[@garrettwright7381]

T

[@daledo8604]

Video starts at 8 minutes (well, that's when the deer lure is finally over).

[@DanPeala]

how I usually watch AoE

[@bluemoondiadochi]

Viper i have an idea for a CHALLENGE: use siege ONAGERS to CHOP AROUND the edge of the ARENA map and hit him from behind inside his base!!! I think that would be legendary and glorious!

[@imadecoy.]

He would need to smurf to do that as a good player would be castle dropping him by then.

[@martijnbouman8874]

Well, no reason why he wouldn't be able to defend from the attack of the other player in the meantime.

[@lamegamer4607]

In Forgotten you can use onagers:O

[@noemiej.marquis732]

That's the kind of strat you'd see in a FFA / community game, still would be awesome if pulled off.

[@Aitvo]

It wouldn't be, it would be a MASTAPIECE

[@matthewmcneany]

that bombard micro fighting retreat. That's what we come here for

[@carbon1255]

I came to see the lure vill tc garrison farm drop. Flawless...

[@Rohkiani311006]

For extra chance to win, have three villagers building palisade gates and walls to protect the monks and bombard cannons. 400 HP = 9 extra monks, for 20 wood cost. I think TaToH would have done better in MoA5 final, game 1, if he had used the 1k gold he spent on Heresy to make monks instead, as he already had atonement. If he had ungarrisoned monks, they would have been next to yours. But he also neglected to attack with villagers, as your opponent did in this game. One castle-age strategy against this is to put some units in rams. Monks can't convert rams at range. A siege tower could even be appropriate here as it's faster, and so can dodge bombard cannon rounds more easily.

[@carbon1255]

He doesn't really offensively quick wall, it might be a manners thing, since it is one of his many trump cards. In this case he was having fun running them away. He was curious if his opponent could stop even his casual cavalier monk rush in this game. He was fully prepared to slog it out with the first attack just being a big eco hit to his opponent. You are likely to see this tactic again though, as with his "mint imperials" it is a safe and powerful play, that cannot be copied by his "rivals"

[@Vack91]

Some say he can drush and castle drop at the same time; And that he can go full camels with Aztecs... all we know is, he’s called TheViper.

[@daneperrysvendsen8119]

Viper's micro never ceases to amaze me, wp

[@lubin2764]

For the Byzantines Advance to Imperial costs -33%, but imp time still out of this world....

[@mikeharrison469]

That bombard cannon micro so goooood

[@phoqueoeuf]

only hours after you posted the "are long swords viable"

[@nicolasgombert8551]

Insane strategy. You have to be able to pull off all sort of skills! Pretty impressive!

[@PRNFraxik]

if you playing everything looks so smooth and well ordered. While Im trying my best its a mess... Keep doing great job maaaan !

[@DeJake]

0:35 He's like Rick Sanchez, an unchallenged freaking genius but he can't even remember how he did it the next day

[@theSavageHippie]

Wheelbarrow research = gg

[@nothanks7475]

I come from 5 years from the future to let past vipey know that you still get housed regularly.

[@TheChimples]

And it was against a very good arena player too.

[@Djuntas]

So, the only thing this tactic needs is a way to afford a castle at 25 mins or so. Absolute insane tactic, that largely comes down to luring even the impossible deers you had. The fun thing is i watch this with no skip to learn the little eco-tricks, hopefully, and then I end up learning nothing, and when I would do it myself it would probably be 24 mins :D

[@Hennu_TRM]

Man, in small engagements the Byzantine monk healing bonus seems to have a significant effect.

[@ArnabChaks007]

Great job...why no hand cannons, though, instead of the extra monasteries or pikemen?

[@Sean.Vosler]

Arnab Chakraborty too much gold when trying to make bombards I think

[@steggystegosaurus7282]

~20min imp works easily with HCs + BCs too.

[@XyntXII]

i was asking myself the same question.. especially when he started to talk about cataphracts.. why go for cataphracts in a few years, when you can just add handcannons easily, since you already have chemistry

[@ArnabChaks007]

Sean Vosler Well..he was making Monks throughout

[@ashmonkey2572]

yeah he probably forgot about hc as an option. who can blame him. catas are much prettier than hc

[@Rainbow-Dash]

Omg that dono gif NEEDS to comeback

[@elduquecaradura1468]

And I have problems with moderate AI, man in pvp you would smash me in 15 min xD

[@dublo8865]

i think he will kill you with a dark age rush :D

[@tyrant_hermit]

He can kill you with his sheep

[@elduquecaradura1468]

Finn Leiseder nah, feudal skirmishers, just for the disrespect xD

[@lutherschultz4725]

did you know feudal skirmisher rush used to be the meta 10 years ago?

[@petiertje]

I think I'll manage to get the first lumbercamp build by the time he would crush me with Paladins :D

[@Rainbow-Dash]

Beautiful classic match

[@kartik4879]

Why he makes multiple lumbercamps and TC at the same place?? Explain please

[@rahuldsouza1985]

So what civ was the opponent

[@Illsovrano]

Breaks into enemy civilization with some monks and sone dudes pushing cannons and starts building houses while converting everything

[@zanto9812]

In the meantime i sit here and struggle to get castle under 30 mins

[@alikurt1992]

You saw the triple scout but you tried monk rush :) and you win. You have to be viper i guess :)

[@martijnbouman8874]

If you are already fast imping as Byzantines, Monks + Spears would work well against the scouts. And that is what Viper went for.

[@streamofthought8662]

hey viper, is aoe2 ur fav rts game?

[@windows95_de]

It's all about shortcuts I guess.

[@jimmygalvez5340]

viper i loved your play style and pls speak in spanish or use one traductor for guides :c

[@alequecoisa]

unbelievable

[@bandabanderos]

I have come to accept the fact that the units simply refuse to listen to vipers commands

[@corvojow]

That's Viper been Viper ... Amazing

[@randomness3611]

Your twitch link is not working, would love to watch your awesomeness live

[@TheViperAOE]

Older videos will have an outdated link unfortaunately. My new link is: www.twitch.tv/theviper

[@randomness3611]

www.twitch.tv/theviper

[@youclown5878]

Never seen someone use so many monks.

[@leebirchenough9189]

is max global pop a thing? so as your units die you opponents can build new units

[@Entropy__]

Lee Birchenough no

[@Vack91]

Just... Wooooow

[@mazinrobox2546]

mastahpiece

[@Tocaraca]

It’s fucking bullshit how you can do a troll strategy like this and still win

[@cristiantaruman675]

Does anyone know how Viper got each monk to turn a particular unit in the min 15:45?

[@omersapir6781]

he used quick groups 2 to 9 for individual monks. you can see their numbers at the bottom-left corner of each unit.

[@jadearrowgamer1762]

That is an incredible time. I can't get a time like that even if I try. HOW DO YOU DO IT?!

[@carbon1255]

Only possible with Byzantines for one. and you saw, absorbing every ounce of food, and only in arena. He is the best player in the world though.

[@lukasg4807]

You forget about HC?

[@johnd0e25]

great play !

[@leandroszkutnik9467]

But what if the opponent attacked you? You had no defense! I don’t understand how u know they won’t attack u

[@matiassantos4175]

How does he do to select military buildings that quickly??

[@martijnbouman8874]

Hotkeys.

[@matiassantos4175]

Martijn Bouman ikr but which ones?? XD

[@martijnbouman8874]

Depends on his hotkey settings.

[@rithikradhan367]

bombards are great ...... if you use them wisely

[@tomascanevaro4292]

I got a 25 mins fast imp the other day :) (On MICHI that is)

[@chrisko2337]

MASTAPIEZ!

[@tylerfehr7883]

was this MOA or just a ladder game?

[@imadecoy.]

Not MoA. Not even sure if it was ranked.

[@ewaldminch407]

gg

[@bestofcompilation8017]

well done :o i like it :3

[@JosueYair]

mastapizza

[@sniupy]

Damn! I take like 32 mins to Imperial Age. :(

[@dragonlord4643]

and i need 20 mins to get into castleage dafuq

[@AlejandroRamirez-rv4lz]

HOLA SEÑOR THE VIPER UN SASUDO DESDE LA CIUDAD DE VERACRUZ. MEXICO.SOLO QUIERO PERDIRTE UN FAVOR. YA Q SOMOS VARIOS LATINOS QUE TE SEGIMOS LAVERDAD AMI EN LO PERSONAL ME GUSTARIA Q TUVIERAS SUBTITULOS PUES LA VERDAD NO SE INGLES. GRACIAS ESPERO VEAS MI COMENTARIO Y PROXIMAMENTE LLEERTE PARA SABER LO Q DISES CUANDO ESTAS EN EL JUEGO YA Q SOY UNO DE TUS SEGIDORES. FIEL SALUDOS AMIGO Y SEGIRE ENTRENANDO PARA RETARTE.

[@Dougie-ex1ov]

lol

[@daven8490]

My fastest imp is 21min...19:40 insane though

[@scottspencer6036]

This is obscene

[@dimic1777]

i played against two hard ai once they over took me by swarming up my base with ai monks it was a very very fun match yes very fun indeed

[@hrogarfyrninga3238]

yes, an AI once overran me with 40 monks, that was too much

[@dimic1777]

Hroðgar Fyrninga viper is like hardest barbarian ai on steriods kappa

[@hrogarfyrninga3238]

I don't DauT it.

[@chipmo]

People actually ask for money back from streamers? Just for not playing exactly what they want? Gross

[@rajashamail7240]

i can play better then that

[@tommybear4458]

I hate the sax man.

[@неболаја]

r u gay Viper?

[@eduardomora1447]

NO UR MOM

[@Kitteneater100]

firs

[@dangelobenjamin]

dau

[@ibeyan]

rek

[@sheharyarhusham5908]

las

[@SchoolShootings]

If it was a 2v 2 and Viper would won it 1v2 ( because i would be useless there ) I would type " GG WP VIPEEEEEEEER !!! " Please make a championship for AOE2 ( like 8 or 10 guys playing against each others like football team does )

[@carbon1255]

I had the honour when i was young being so bad in a 4v4 that one of our allies straight quit because we had two noobs. Viper stayed. He taught me how to play, how to build eco, and how to sling. We lost the other noob (killed) and we continued on for an hour, at which point the enemy team got angry claiming we should have quit because our ally did and then they rage quit.. He soloed 4vs1 with a bit of a brand new noob sling whilst typing to me and I remember it so well to this day. Viper never quits, he is always nice to noobs, a gentleman, and a superhero of AOE2. True childhood hero (though I'm about his age) Was shocked to see him appear on youtube, it has been great following him now x) We had a good chat because i'm from Manchester, and we shared favourite football teams, (Manchester United)

[@YesIAmThatCoolBitch]

trololo

[@nocturne9257]

Here's an idea for a challenge video: play on a laptop using the trackpad instead of a mouse.

[@DaddyMouse]

That's not a challenge... that's a torture!

[@diegeigergarnele7975]

I tried... that's so fucking frustrating

[@inuelmejor]

Since Viper knows how to use hotkeys, is possible if he memorice all hotkeys

[@diegeigergarnele7975]

@@inuelmejor it's impossible to not use the mouse at all, he still needs to select units to create groups and to set gathering points, way points etc

[@Ugapiku]

Sheeesh, just got recommended this vid. so weird seeing the original AOE2 FeelsStrongMan

[@Tom-yp7sj]

so, does viper only upload wins or does he only win?

[@georgecrabtree2062]

I've watched the stream, honestly I think he just wins most things. only time i've seen him lose really is doing games with viewers/challenges etc.

[@MrDonosoi]

he uploads interesting games, also loses if they are not one sided

[@burakkartal2156]

watch him play againts AfterMath members. Mbl and liereey are good as viper imo.

[@tylerfehr7883]

Yep. Viper's youtube channel is basically a filter on his twitch to get the best/most interesting games. Both are great though.

[@shounenda4291]

he upload interesting/entertaining games, regardless of win or losses, but for some reason, he often wins 11

[@taksuparth]

How do you get grids in AOE2HD ?

[@Kikematamitos]

You deserve more views and subscribers that others.

[@sgtpepper8581]

Entonces juega aoe 2weee

[@venomzx1]

How do you remove that texture thing (black dots/squares)? I started recording my own AoE 2 gameplay and I have that problem, please help!

[@BallisticAero]

Damn I remember when this game actually looked like this.... so glad I had this in my childhood and so glad I didn't understand it to the extent I do now. It's made the game age so well for me and my fellow generation.

[@ihmpall]

My childhood had conquerors

[@floriankulik7965]

After so much playing def edition i still like the old graphics.

[@xeryues]

masterfully done

[@TheSacredMaster]

MASTAPIECE

[@pablobellux7476]

expertise the best management of monks that I saw

[@carbon1255]

I love watching it, he teaches how he does it in one of his videos, he has the best monk micro in the world. There are some handy tricks he uses.

[@michaelchew9891]

How does he cycle through individual monks when he's converting? I can see that hes not using the mouse to select each one. Is there a hotkey for this or something? Maybe he control groups each monk?

[@homargarcia149]

July 2024 anyone?

[@AdityaKarnataki691]

Saving those monks with those conversions of Long Swordsmen was dazzling. Made me delirious. What the hell did I just watch?!

[@nikolaisafronov3452]

hey, from 2021

[@asdergold1]

These LoL adds are somehow getting worse and cringier.

[@carbon1255]

I literally cried when you ungarrisoned from the boar lure and perfect farmed... You are unreal Viper. That was incredible. It is a triple efficiency, you already have it selected, you want it on farms anyway from low HP... ahhh... perfect.

[@kartik4879]

Why he makes multiple lumbercamps and TC at the same place?? Explain please

[@pimketss]

urgh how i hate that conversion sound

[@diegogrigorescu453]

how did you activate the tiles that show

[@carbon1255]

Viper loves "Mint Imperials"

[@andrealves5162]

How do I have these squares on the map?

[@zombienation13]

Good luck finding new opponents.

[@GnanaPrakash86AP]

Viper going imp faster than my Ethiopian castle time XD GG

[@axlrose76]

So much disrespecc, I'm offended

[@extrasec1391]

So Smoth to watch wp biper

[@VlekSoT]

Why does he destroy his walls?

[@carbon1255]

The rear walls are in the way of expansion, too micro intensive to clear it up later, needs to do it when he has time, also needed the gap to lure boars and deer more quickly. There is no downside to it as it is safe.

[@Linearsteps]

why he go sword man first ？ why not acher and skir it really confuses me

[@carbon1255]

One reason is he is slavs so he had food for days. I imagine originally his plan was to make use of Druzhina, plus the slavs get full inf tree. No thumb ring, no arbalest, no bracer, and that each archer costs more than double a sword. (45 gold vs 20 gold) Meaning there is only half the units, which means viper can pretty much one for one convert them. Skirm is obvious, countered by bombard cannons, and are the weakest for their investment. plus they are wood intensive which would not be possible time wise as he is trying to mass barracks (or archer ranges) Slavs are weak to conversion, not really sure what he could have actually done vs viper here. I feel like he almost fought it off with his approach, I don't think he could have resisted like he did without going swords.