2.2kW Chinese Spindle & HY VFD Setup/Testing

[@Kosh42EFG]

Did you check spindle case to ground?

[@ChristophLehner]

Yeah, it has continuity between the spindle body and earth pin on the connector. One benefit of not buying the cheapest spindle you could find

[@Kosh42EFG]

And brave. I unplugged the spindle cable when turning on the start to check the pump.

[@Kosh42EFG]

@@ChristophLehner My Gpenny was the same, already done right. Nice video as always.

[@OleBjerkholt]

😁That chamfer tool was like a bullet in the aluminium. Great content!

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

I have had my fair share of whoopsies, but yes that shot into the aluminum really quick.

[@dr_regularlove]

This is exactly the part of my build I'm on. One thing I did was lengthen the water pump power cable so I could move my reservoir farther from the electronics, just in case of splashing, and I'm glad I did! Anyways love your vids, and hoping to join the Cutting ranks with you soon!

[@waqasaslam360]

Some humble suggestions for better surface finish: The tool length has to be as short as possible. Finish pass should not remove more than 0.2mm of material. Lower the RPM . (21000 rpm is way too high , i guess under 10000rpm would be good)

[@gaiustacitus4242]

I watched this video again and thought I'd share my first experience with friction welding a 1.000 inch diameter end mill with 6061 aluminum. The end mill was turning at 3,000 RPM, and instead of feeding down into the part 0.100" the spindle attempted to plunge the end mill all the way through a 1.5" thick bar. A blog of molten aluminum was thrown out and it landed on my throat. Just one of the adventures in machining. Good luck in the many adventures ahead of you, and stay safe. p.s. - I tried to salvage the end mill. While I was able to extract the end mill from the aluminum bar, I could not remove the aluminum from the surface of the tool steel.

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

In my early attempts to machine aluminum I tried it without any cooling, and once that cutter is clogged it is virtually impossible to get off and still be able to use the cutter. I rarely clog one these days. Fortunately my cutters cost me like $1 each, so it is no big loss, just frustrating.

[@toddmolloy311]

Gotta get it while it's still hot or send it through an acid bath to strip 6061 off the carbide tool.

[@bjondersson]

To remove the aluminum from the endmill put it in sodium hydroxide, a.k.a. caustic soda, lye, drain cleaner. If there’s just a bit of aluminum 15 minutes may be enough. I had to soak my fully clogged endmill over night.

[@mattivirta]

any normal cnc machine NOT can run 3000RPM spindle, about 6000-24000 RPM normal speed variables only. need only increase feed .

[@gaiustacitus4242]

@@mattivirta I said 3,000 RPM. Older CNC milling machines by Bridgeport had belt driven spindles that ran in the 60 to 4,200 RPM range. I've modified CNCs to add spindles that ran at 50,000 RPM.

[@InheritanceMachining]

"oh no... I fucked up... I fucked up" comedy gold 😂 This whole video had me grinning. Well worth the wait while you got it all sorted out. Side note, that's the same VFD I installed on my lathe. I think you'll like it in the long term

[@ChristophLehner]

After seeing you engraving the wallet manually i think it's time for a cnc 😅 (don't do it)

[@InheritanceMachining]

@@ChristophLehner I don't know... that was another project that would have been a 5 minute job as opposed to 2 hours! 😉

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

@@InheritanceMachining don't know about you but I can any 5 minute job into a 2 hour one. I'm talented like that...

[@markuslimseth8426]

Change to a larger soldingering tip or you need a more powerfull soldering iron. It should only take secounds to heat up the wire and connector so you dont get the heat creep up the wire and melt the isoltation.

[@xaty1808]

Thank you, very nice to see your adventures. Last year i build a 3D printed/wooden CNC with a Dremel 😅 from recycled and/or cheap parts. I learned a lot from it and your video's convinced me to start with a print NC in the future.

[@anmafab]

You're deep down the rabbit hole now man! I'm still curious if you'll go back to the CNC router inception project for the furnace?

[@ChristophLehner]

Haha the furnace will come, i promise 😅

[@anmafab]

@@ChristophLehner excellent 💪

[@DanGoodchild]

Excalibur… 🤣 Brilliant!

[@Duraltia]

@10:59 More like ExChamfiBurr 🤣 Did you perhaps mark the Bottom of the Part in the CAM as a reference point instead of the Top or how did you manage to pull off that stunt?

[@ChristophLehner]

Tbh, i have no idea, somehow the tool lenght offset measurement didnt work out, or i did a reset in between, which is probably what happend 😅

[@JohnOCFII]

Great overview. To see you do the wiring, complete with the hand-drawn wiring diagram seems less scary that some of the others I’ve seen.

[@theorangebaron1595]

Great video, definitely interested in these Chinese spindle and vfd combos, looks like some great value.

[@garethevans9789]

Now that's a surveyor! 👌

[@florisdebest7404]

I'm lmao man, love your video's, keep it up

[@ChristophLehner]

Thanks!!!

[@xyzspec82]

We all have done a plunge like that (I believe) ✅ Check if spindle bearings are in good shape before starting the spindle again (don't ask me why lol) I bet you'll be chasing better surface finish for some time as I did (in fact I still am...) A DIY CNC is never finished 🤓😅 Love your channel bruh 🙌🏻💥

[@ChristophLehner]

Thanks man!! I should indeed check the bearings, thanks for the tip. Before i am.chasing surface finish i probably should figure out good f&s and not f up the z offset 😅 But nyCNC has a good video about surface finish

[@xyzspec82]

Probably the PRINTNC base being made out of wood and not supported all the way is your biggest enemy. That's the main reason why I made my concrete base 😉

[@ChristophLehner]

@@xyzspec82 do you mean the wasteboard? Yeah there is quite some.flex.to.it, even with 40mm MDF

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

@XYZ Spec ain't that the truth. Had mine partially finished for about 7 years now.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

You've probably learned by now that down-cut bits are only to be used for finish cuts. Most of the videos produced by hobbyists show using a single bit for the entire milling operation, but its best to use an up-cut bit for roughing and leave 0.005" to 0.010" for cleanup using the down-cut bit.

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

Or use a down cut bit and reverse the direction of travel. Make your final cuts in the opposite direction.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

@@DodgyBrothersEngineering I should have qualified my statement that it applies when machining metal. Conventional milling of metal produces inferior surface finishes, as does roughing and finishing using the same cutting tool. Conventional milling sometimes causes tear out when milling wood (mainly when the cutting tool becomes dull). Down cut bits don't generally work well for machining metal as the chips tend to pack up and cause the cutting tools to break. This is an opinion based on running a machine shop with more than 360,000 spindle hours per year for more than a decade. Tool life was an important factor in the cost of operations and quality of finished goods.

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

@@gaiustacitus4242 typically none of my bits live long enough to wear out, but I am currently shooting a video where I am chewing through cheap Chinese cutters like butter. Changing direction of rotation did get me some more tool life, but they simply do not like cutting steel plate. Especially after I work hardened it without thinking. FYI I am the novice that you speak of that uses the same cutter for everything, but I far from claim to be an expert, because I am far from being one. So I appreciate the advice you gave. I need to see if I can find a source of cheap up cut bits.

[@mciarlillo1309]

How has this combo been holding up? I ended up purchasing a RATTMMOTOR 2.2Kw spindle and Huanyang VFD as well but I haven't gotten around to installing them yet. The RATTMMOTOR seems to have hit or miss reviews so I'm curious how yours has been doing 1.5 years in?

[@ChristophLehner]

It's still going strong. The bearings are a bit noise but tbh, after 4 weeks I already thought they gonna fail since the sound changed. But it still holds up, and has had a lot of use. Can't say anything bad

[@mciarlillo1309]

@@ChristophLehner awesome! thank you very much sir!

[@demetriusmichael]

Did I misunderstand your setup? When your hot spindle turns off, you stop the water pump? When your spindle turns on for the first time, then your water pump starts priming while you’re cutting? Love this either way.

[@ChristophLehner]

Yeah, as soon as the VFD starts turning the spindle, the waterpump.comea on via a relay controlled by the vfd

[@demetriusmichael]

@@ChristophLehner ah why not have it run all the time instead of just when you’re cutting?

[@Aaarbakke]

Haha, great stuff! Keep it up:D

[@farhanchoudhre6962]

done same with my 3 flute endmill like you did with chamfer mill

[@juansalgado6212]

What is the ModBus on the GRBLHal board? Is your board the teensy bob? If so where are you connecting the RS485 on the board? Is it on 0-10v and G ? thanks

[@thomaskletzl6493]

really great does the last bit still works?

[@ChristophLehner]

It is still stuck 😅

[@thomaskletzl6493]

@@ChristophLehner i was thinking that

[@PiefacePete46]

Mount that on a nice polished walnut base, with a glass dome over it, and the "Artist's" name on a brass plate... worth a fortune! 🥴

[@davidkauppi7169]

Very good REAL experience!

[@mattivirta]

same set up i need build my new vevor 2.2KW spindle and VFD but i not understand how i connect pump start same time than spindle, BUT stop different time than spindle, i mean if stop spindle water pump stay run and after 5-10 minute later stop. can this add to VFD data pin AL1 or DL1 or TB relay out pin and program VFD control pump ??? i have VFD CV100-2.2S and how i connect linuxcnc-breakoutboard relay to start/stop switch. potentiometer i understand connect to Gnd-AL1-plus10V. i NOT understand external switch on/off were connect, DL1 ?- Ground maybe. and were pump DL1-gnd or TA relay to TB pin ???

[@TBor-z2m]

What was your problem with the aviatior connectors?

[@trezos2822]

New to this stuff and im eager to know what was the cause behind the bit getting stuck? Was it the machine path being a bit too eager to get straight into chamfering the aluminium, and not having a slow enough z axis approach into the aluminium for the rpm it was set at?

[@ChristophLehner]

I measured the z offset with the 6mm.flute, then changed to the vbit, measured the z offset with this tool, but then i think i drove into an endstop, had the reset the controller and the measured z.offset was gone. So the z0 was not.offset and was therefore somewhere in the middle.of the part. But this all happend so quickly 😅

[@golfprocrastinator9519]

Quality comedy injections mate.

[@jameslphillips4393]

Hello, I have a Huanyang vfd and 2.2kw spindle 220 volts. I did not reset my vfd when I put in the settings from several videos. It worked except it would only go to 208 hertz. I reset it and now it goes to 400 hertz but the potentiometer does not work. Is there a setting I can change to fix it. TIA

[@alexsabillon6794]

Muy buen trabajo campeón asi se empieza prueba y error estoy a punto de armar una simila espero todo me salga bien

[@vigigamehacker123]

water tank stored right next to the electronics box

[@mattivirta]

no matter were store water tank, if not leak newermind,

[@bjondersson]

What was the issue with the aviation connectors? I’ve used them in my box and like it.

[@ChristophLehner]

I find them.a.pita to solder. Especially if you have lots of them

[@bjondersson]

@@ChristophLehner I see. I used presoldered cables and connectors. Keep up the good work with your content! 👍

[@mattivirta]

aviation used world best connectors, airplane need be lot lot better all connector than any manufactory used. aviation plugs have tested working sure safety alltime.

[@arbjful]

I am thinking of upgrading my spindle to a 1.5kw one. Not sure whether to go for air cooled or water cooled, I heard water cooled was quieter and faster, any advice which is best? I will always be milling aluminum

[@ChristophLehner]

Go for water-cooled, lasts longer and is quieter

[@arbjful]

@@ChristophLehner is 1.5kw enough for milling aluminum?

[@mattivirta]

i just looking and order my new spindle, 1,5KW and 2,2KW not have lot different price, 1,5 cost 120$ and 2,2KW cost 130€ better buy biggest then can milling lot better all, 1,5KW can cut plywood only max 9mm deep max 200 IPM speed one pass, but 2,2KW maximu have lot lot more, can mill 25mm ower 200IPM one pass, 1/2" bit. and aluminium about 8mm 150IPM max very lot better than 1,5KW. but same cost.

[@FauziIbrahim]

Hi there, During configuration for VFD I have problem to find P01, P02. I only got uP0, uP3, uP4, uP5, uP6. Sir, please tell me How to change these uP code to P code in VFD CNC 6040Z 4 axist. When I tried to reset factory setting there still an error 40 appear. Then it is unable to get P code again. Thank you sir

[@patmakerman]

Hello, I'm planning to build my own printnc. You are using a cisco ws-cac-1300W power supply right? And a 2k2 W Spindle? How is that possible? Best Regards from lower austria ;)

[@ChristophLehner]

Cisco Psu is only used for low voltage stuff Like steppers The VFD is connected to 230v directly

[@patmakerman]

@@ChristophLehner thank you very much! Helps a lot! I'm already searching for a Cisco psu :). Btw your videos are really great! I think I watched the cnc Playlist 5 times.

[@mattivirta]

@@patmakerman no matter what psu you use, important have only volts and amperes have right. and use you DC or AC , mean pump etc, use DC or AC, low voltage have normal all DC, 12V lights, 24V sensors etc.

[@mattivirta]

normal lot used power supply to stepper motors and all sensors and light etc, normal led light switch power supply, i used 2x 40V 10A to stepper motors and drivers, and 12V 2A to lights and home switch inductive sensors. and some 12V in 5V USB out converter to all other lights and fans etc. not need expensive cisco brand power supply. need only calculate how much ampere need all motors together, etc,my setup hace 5 pcs 4A stepper motors need minimum 20A out to power supply, and what other power you need, sensors,light,fans,etc need own power supply. and VFD have own power line to wall socket.

[@karolzepeda8421]

What is the total consumption of that spindle, in alternating current?❤

[@Basement_CNC]

are you from austria? the accent, wgb tools and german language,.... kinda gives some clues also nice video and quite helpfull, since i'm also in the process of building a cnc as my gratulation project in my school

[@ChristophLehner]

Erwischt 😃 Nice graduation project 🤙

[@Dynoworksperformance]

Can you do a writeup on this? I'm new to this and I will be ordering a 4x8 table and was looking at this same spindle and driver.

[@mattivirta]

why waste lot money buy cnc machine and has worst than DIY build own machine, build own machine cost about 1000$ and buy cnc machine cost 4000-6000$ waste lot money, 1000$ can buyil same machine but better motors nema 23 or 34 50-100$/axis, spindle 2.2KW 130$, VFD 2.2KW 70$ , controller board 20€ old PC 20-40$ parallerport card 20$ or best option mesa card 200$ and flexiple safety REALTIME linuxcnc FREE. windows not have safe and not REALTIME controller. linear rails normal good SBR 15 or 20, less than 300$ Z axis rails MGN 15 20$. trapecoid screws 20-30$ or ball screws 100$. lot cheapen and easy build own machine than buy and waste lot money stupid, minimum nema motors need be 470OZ 3 Nm torque, stepper motor drivers good have DM556. 20$/axis. simple build. frame cheapen but need welding and grinding have metal tube frame, or expensive have aluminium profile frame bolt-on need only.

[@mkhmkh1266]

Whatever your first language is, swearing in American English is the most satisfying.

[@Bobby11]

American english? It was just english lol

[@DogSerious]

You should have recalibrated the new bit.

[@TecnoLAZ]

Amazing, i buy one equal. Its amazing spindle

[@ilijapetrovic697]

Which fuses did you end up killing? VFD or stepper driver?

[@ChristophLehner]

I have a panel mount powersocket with integrated fuses on my.electrical cabinet. And it blew both of them 😅

[@gaiustacitus4242]

@@ChristophLehner At least you have small enough fuses to blow. Most of my machining adventures have occurred with 440V 3-phase motors in the 2HP to 25HP range, and the breakers never tripped. It always made me question why machine tool designers locate the emergency stop switch where you have to risk your life to hit it.

[@mciarlillo1309]

How well has the VFD & Spindle held up 9 months later?

[@ChristophLehner]

the spindle nut did seize up, but i managed to rescue the threads, but it's a matter of time, before the threads on the spindle are not usable. i already have a replacement spinlde for 150€. but for whats its worth i'd still buy it, since it is so much cheaper than an atc spindle

[@mciarlillo1309]

thats really good to hear that its holding up relatively well. ive been going back and forth for my first CNC on the spindle (and everything else, lol). It was between the Huanyang 1.5Kw + VFD or something like Stepcraft MM-1000 DI and possibly ATC in the future. @@ChristophLehner

[@oc_geek337]

Hi which application are you using to control the VFD from PC via Mod-Bus ?

[@ChristophLehner]

IO Sender is the software i am using

[@oc_geek337]

@@ChristophLehner Thanks, is that also providing the user GUI you were showing in the video or that is a different Program ? Thanks in advance

[@ChristophLehner]

@@oc_geek337 exactly, it provides the UI, and streams the Gcode to the machine

[@umargul5644]

Great 👍

[@18jacount]

nice chamfer 😅

[@theshedmachineshop9857]

oops, I fucked up 🤣

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

Looks like you need to tram your spindle.

[@BuildItAnyway]

First!

[@StemmProductions]

You know you have done it in life when someone writes "first" under your videos lmao

[@rusticagenerica]

Dear God. Did you fart ????