2.5 Atheism: A History of God (A)

[@KendrixTermina]

He's not exaggerating about the 'good medical care': During the building of the cheps pyramid, the authorities actually spent great sums of money to feed their workers lots of garlic, onions and radish, to control the spread of infectious disease and ensure proper nutrition. It was probably the closest they had to vitamin pills or preventive measures back in the day. Besides having a religious purpose and giving the king prestige, building huge monuments was also a measure to keep ppl employed while the fields were underwater in certain times of the year. One of the coolest things about history is finding out how ppl have basically always been ppl.

[@Rooster128]

seriously ive been taking a huge dive into history lately and that's really the theme I've found- humanity hasn't changed.

[@Vyktor997]

Thanks for the info! And about humanity not changing, if you or anyone else wonders why it remained the same, id fully recommend the book Sapiens by Harari. Thats just the advice of a random guy from the internet. Thanks again!

[@rkooyers]

@@Vyktor997. Hi Random Guy! Why do adults still check under their bed for the Boogeyman? I'm asking for imaginary friend. Jesus. They should realize that the Boogeyman only eats Southern Baptist women because they taste like fried chicken. ;)

[@andrewreed1329]

bullshit, slavery is everywhere in history

[@aaronekstrand758]

I keep coming back to this video in my mind a decade later. This is the best video in the series and it would be cool if someone did a whole new series where they did a deep dive on this.

[@chrisbovington9607]

Agreed. I've been trying to find a deep dive into the polytheism of the ancient Levant, especially as it relates to the eventual emergence of monotheism. I've not had much luck so far. If you find something good, please post here.

[@thepotato405]

I would recommend you to the source material: A history of God by Karen armstrong. There is also Diarmaid MacCulloch "Christianity the first three thousand years" Both have good narrative histories and the latter has an annotated bibliography second to none when finding source material For a detailed archeological look that lacks the narrative setting I'd refer you to Patrick d miller's "the religion of ancient israel" and is for the most part availible for free

[@Stick3x]

I really love how the music does not take away from the message. Sounds great so does the recording of the voice, this is well produced, excellent work.

[@fenrix155]

The music is very spiritual in such a way that it relates to media you might see regarding the upholding and solidification of Christianity. I see it not quite as a mockery but as a comparison to Christian media and entertainment. It shows that those emotions, those deep rooted feelings that you get when watching Christian media, the ones that make you tear up in awe, the ones that strengthen your already steady faith in God are mere illusions meant to tap into your vulnerable mind. In other words, the music persuades you to have a positive attitude toward the content that’s being presented to you. I’m not sure if the guy who created these videos put this music in intentionally with that though in mind or if it was a coincidence, but it has helped me understand how capable I am of being manipulated by my emotions.

[@leonardobuitrago7161]

This video should have millions and millions of views. It's so good in many levels

[@Kanzu999]

I watched your whole playlist maybe a year or so after it was finished, and I was 15, maybe 16. Back then it was already profound, but man am I glad that the thought happened to cross my mind that I should revisit this again. There is so much to learn! Thank you for all the work you've done!

[@kolliq]

If you want to understand how Christianity was probably born then you should check out Richard Carrier’s research on the history of Jesus. Also available here on KZbin.

[@bakednamaste3681]

This has to be my most favorite youtube video ever.

[@TotalTech2.]

Most definetly

[@AtheistEdge]

Same here. A close second would be Ten Commandments video by 43Alley.

[@JacobLaguerre91]

Same here

[@pernordin2641]

The whole series Evid3nce3 has made is absolutely outstanding in its clarity, pedagogics and humble yet absolute analysis and presentation. My hat off. I found this AFTER I had been freed from my religious indoctrination. I recommend this series to ALL to listen and watch: believers and non-believers alike. There is NO ranting, but only very very clear explanations.

[@haiggoh]

It's a shame that his information is kept away from school education. It is an important part of the history of the entire western AND middle eastern world. Religion massively shaped all wars an conflicts for centuries. Understanding the origins of Judaism makes many things clearer.

[@ominous24]

Wow, could you just imagine if this was taught in schools? It would make for some good TV, I know that much. Religion is just based on ignoring facts to preserve cultural beliefs with absolutely no regard for truth.

[@kevinclass2010]

***** I sympathize with some of your point. Nevertheless, there now s evidence that the Canaanites and the Hebrews were the same people. We know this because Hebrew language is identical to Canaanite and Phoenician languages. This contradicts the account in genesis that Canaanites and Phoenicians were Hamites while Hebrews were Semites. The reality is that Hebrews were more closely related to Phoenicians than to Chaldeans (Iraqis). I am relieved to know that the Canaanite genocide never happened.

[@haiggoh]

Kevin Lopez Just because they were culturally one people that doesn't mean that they didn't slaughter each other. It's true that archeologists have found out that the hebrews never were taken from israel to egypt so they had been living in canaan all along. But what I think happened is that the story about Joshua's and Moses's genocides was written by a Jahwist author in order to scare those who still worshipped baal and other canaan gods instead of only Jahweh. And I can imagine quite well that these genocides where not purely fictional and continued to happen. I mean, if people grew up with polytheism for many generations it was surely not easy to force them to worship Jahweh only and non of the other gods.

[@kevinclass2010]

haiggoh i agree with you, there might have been some sort of conflict between settled and nomad Canaanites. But what is important to take from all of this is that any fatalist mythology is dangerous. For instance the Spaniards and British colonizers cited passages from Joshua to justify the enslavement and genocide of Native Americans. I feel sad that apologists uphold the story instead of criticize it. Answers in genesis justify Joshua's story of genocide, meanwhile they accusse falsely that Hitler was an atheist.

[@kevinclass2010]

***** I am a Christian. I know that no ideology makes you good by default. There are good and bad Christians just as there are good and bad atheists. I believe that good nonbelievers are unconsciously following the teachings of Jesus. Jesus said that one day the law would be written in our hearts. So if Jesus was able to criticize the fundamentalist Jews about the strict sabath laws, why some Christians keep supporting wars?

[@EdGloss]

I can read and write Hebrew, specifically biblical Hebrew which can be vastly different from modern Hebrew. I learned this alongside English and have been able to translate the Old Testament, the Torah, without the assistance of others since I was ten. When I finally read through Deuteronomy for the first time around ten or so, it was abundantly obvious almost from the beginning that it was very different from previous books. However, it wasn't until I was much older that I figured out that the Torah was not, in fact, inspired by god and was just a collection of myths written by an ancient people that became the foundation of Judaism and later, of other religions including Christianity and Islam.

[@christianmadsen2507]

Ed Gloss Wow, that's cool that you can read Hebrew. What prompted you to learn it from such a young age? Is biblical Hebrew poetic or aesthetically pleasing or is it just average?

[@themanthelegendjmw]

Ed Gloss Were you raised Jewish?

[@notstayinsdowns]

So being able to read Hebrew is what made you figure out the Bible was myths?

[@EdGloss]

notstayinsdowns No. Reading Hebrew just allowed me to not have to rely on others for the translation. Regardless of the language in which one reads the Bible, it's quite clear that it is nothing special and obviously fiction.

[@notstayinsdowns]

Right, so reading Hebrew had nothing to do with you deciding against God. In fact you probable decided this before you learned Hebrew?

[@chcknpie04]

I just want you to know that I regularly come back to this video as a resource. Thank you so much.

[@bjjolley]

I found this series when I saw through the deceptions of religion in 2009. Years later I still consider this one of the most enlightening, powerful narratives of all my countless hours of study. Thank you - from the depths of my heart - for the care with which you made these videos. This one, in particular, is the one I revisit the most.

[@billyg898]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpiQoZ6bfdebla8

[@michelegoremg]

I research this every few years myself.

[@JohnSmith-yw9nk]

Here's what we do know. Canaanites, prior to the Israelites, worshiped a pantheon of gods. The head god was named El. Other gods in the pantheon were Ba'al, Anat, Mot (death), Yam (sea), Shamash (sun). We learn this mostly from excavations of the ancient site of Ugarit, which fell around 1200 BCE. It does not appear that Canaanites worshiped a god named YHWH. There is one text that might possibly indicate the existence of such a god, but the translation is highly debated, and certainly can't be used as certain proof. More reliably, we have two references from Egypt dating to the 14th and 13th centuries that refer to the "Shasu of YHW." A group of nomads. However, Egypt heiroglyphics often give context to what words represent, and YHW represents a toponym or a placename, not a deity (although it could be both). Some verses in the Tanach indicate that YHWH worship was imported from the southern regions. There is a theory that Israelites learned about YHWH from a nation called the Kenites (the nation represented by Cain in the Genesis story). You can read more about the Kenite hypothesis here. As an additional point of support, the Kuntellet Arjud inscription around 800 century BCE refers to Yahweh of the south. In later Israelite culture (late first monarchy and perhaps a bit before). YHWH and El had become merged into a single deity. The names were synonymous. The are a few stories where God reveals that he is both YHWH and El, the most famous being at the burning bush (although be careful because many scholars think that there are multiple accounts here that have been combined.) When the merging process occurred, and how it occurred is a very tricky question. The question is dealt thoroughly by Mark Smith in two of his works. Although these works are not very easy to read. As a quick point of summary. He traces a procedure in which YHWH gradually absorbed all the other popular deities, including El, Ba'al, Asherah and Anat, while other deities had their agency stripped away (Mot, Yam, Shamash). Finally, most scholars do not think that Abraham was a real person. Rather he's a mythical construct, similar to many of the other characters from that era. Nevertheless there's something to be said for the Israelites choosing YHWH as their deity. Again, a very common theory is that worship of YHWH evolved from general polytheism into henotheism/monolatry and from there into pure monotheism. Henotheism means that you recognize many gods, but you only worship one.

[@bravodelta3000]

I'm watching this again after years, and I still find this an amazing watch. Respects for the deconstruction! Thank you!

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

So after all these years are still as historically illiterate as you were before, no offense, but this video is complete nonsense. It’s pretty obvious when he says there’s good evidence that there was polytheism in Israel, like duh Captain obvious read the Bible, We should see a ramp at polytheism history, this is actually evidence for the Bible.

[@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1]

It's a shame you never came back to KZbin, really.

[@kyliereed200]

Why did he disappear?

[@therickestpicklerick]

His point was made. He doesn't seem like a KZbin in the popular sense. He came to share a story and that's what he did. No need to hang around. He just probably hopes his point was taken.

[@kyliereed200]

@@therickestpicklerick That’s true. Either way I hope he’s doing well.

[@bubblegumgun3292]

@@therickestpicklerick that's how legends are, hey only come to do what is true and leave, not stick around for the glory

[@justaway6901]

He is. Yesterday

[@Krappman]

I'm totally awestruck by your story. This must be the third time I watch the video series. I have never really been a Christian. I was raised with the stories, and for a while, as a young child, I thought it was history, and that it therefore had some value. But I grew up in secular Sweden, and all the fairytales (sorry for the negative connotation) faded with age, and with secular religious education. (Not to be confused with anti-theist education, only a emotion - and compulsion free education of Christianity, and the other religions). Especially this episode 2.5 A history of God, should be a integral part of religious studies everywhere. As a counterweight to the religious narrative. I don't know why I'm writing really. I just enjoy your story, your non-confrontative approach. Calm, collected and really, really well thought through. Amazing work. Probably one of the absolute best on KZbin. Why hasn't a television company approached you to make this a television series? It is really that good, no, better! All the best!

[@sammypuro9392]

This video literally changed and saved my life from christian fundamentalism. Words cannot express how much I appreciate you for making this video :)

[@paradisecityX0]

Yep, saved you from being village Christian, onto being village Atheist

[@renetorres213]

HistoryNET I wanna go to these villages. Jk lol but I think the fundamentalism is the part this person refers to being saved from. Not Christianity overall but fundamentalism cuz Christianity offers a cool perspective and philosophical structure to help one get through life. And not all of those ppl think the world is really 6,000 yrs old some are even willing to recognize the overwhelming evidence of evolution. For them their religion just offers psychological or spiritual tranquility and if that is their method it’s cool. Most of us are agnostic leading one way or another. Let em be lol

[@TotalTech2.]

Same here. On one hand part of me still wants to belive in God.von the other the facts are just too big to ignore

[@paradisecityX0]

@@TotalTech2. Too bad, the facts point to God www.amazon.com/Five-Proofs-Existence-Edward-Feser/dp/1621641333

[@WranglerRubicon76]

@@paradisecityX0 You're obviously to stupid to see through your own bullshit!

[@arkemiffo]

This video may be about 4 years old now, but I have to say it's one of my favourite vids on youtube. It's informative, concise, very well narrated, and have a very pleasing style. It's too bad it "only" have about 380k view so far. It deserves so much more.

[@soopahsoopah]

Coming up on 10 years now and it still holds up

[@coolhat8517]

Evid3nc3, you certainly have done your homework. Thanks for this.

[@static02]

This series is life changing. Thank you for your passion and dedication.

[@KhalerJex]

10 years later I'm revisiting this video. Just awesome.

[@billyg898]

It's a terrible video. Its based on a single book by a non-scholar and even cites an animated movie for its case. THe references are all just wikipedia, not any actual references from scholars themselves. If you want a thorough, scholar cited video on this case, see the following video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpiQoZ6bfdebla8 Compare these two videos and you will see how terrible this video actually is, and how easily so many people can be duped by some nice graphics and slippery reasoning.

[@ihaveatonofnames]

@@billyg898 thankyou for spitting facts

[@michelegoremg]

I rewatch this every few years myself

[@ChristionJohnson17]

Dude just dropped a nuke on western monotheism.

[@sammypuro9392]

Lmao. I know right! This video literally changed my life!

[@ChristionJohnson17]

Sammy Puro Definitely

[@paradisecityX0]

+Sammy Puro Pretty sad that you're this impressionable

[@atheistickhan7216]

paradisecityX0 , Sad your still an idiot.

[@davidhatcher7016]

yup lol

[@Zimx02]

Yahweh's sprite looks so badass.

[@onyhow]

Well technically it's vector graphics...

[@EtienneAelian]

This series is getting better and better by the episode !

[@CrazyRandomLord]

Polytheism is way cooler than monotheism. Putting it In this new paradigm makes the bible much more interesting.

[@rchuso]

The Flood story was originally because of a conflict between factions of the Gods. When translated into Hebrew, the consolidation of the happenings and reasonings left them with a schizophrenic God in need of an anger-management class. Besides, the earlier version is way more fun. Of course, that version (I refer to the one about Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh) was itself likely taken from the earlier Epic of Atrahasis, which was itself likely taken from the earlier Ziusudra tale in the Eridu Genesis.

[@andresleyton8496]

I would like to request English subtitles so that from them translations in different languages can be provided. This video is very informative and needs to reach people of different languages.

[@royrieder2113]

Your voice is so soothing. I love the way you narrate.

[@Xaekai]

I absolutely LOVE the light you're shedding on the origins of mainstream religions. Praise El Elyon.

[@PamSesheta]

Dua Set, this video was prt to beginning the scraping away new ideas in my research of religious history. I was already freed from Christianity, but it was as an atheist that led me to something strange for myself and in researching religions comparatively. Thank you for this video, 12 years ago it enriched my life deeply. Its been a strange trip.

[@clintonarneson226]

Still one of the best videos on the platform.

[@MyReluctantTheology]

When I first saw this video, I was freaked out and scared, but intrigued. It was this playlist that inspired me to read A History of God by Karen Armstrong, which was a wonderful read. Since then, I've been reading some of her other books. She's a fantastic writer. I know that for some, this information makes people look down on the Bible, but for me, I've found it to be an even more fascinating book.

[@helgevig]

This is so fu*king interesting, I am literally enthralled. Thank you SO MUCH for making and sharing these videos!!!!!!!!

[@jhonklan3794]

Wow, this literally is the final nail in the coffin against monotheism. I'm blown away by the effort you put into this video to create this!

[@billyg898]

Don't be so easily duped. He cites no scholars, his only source is a single book by a non-scholar, and he even refers to an animated movie to make his case. He makes massive leaps in conclusions, cherry-picks the facts he provides, but if you are uninformed, you can easily be duped in to thinking this is a good video. If you want one that is actually good, that actually cites numerous scholars, watch this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpiQoZ6bfdebla8 An off the cuff response to this video has already been made too, which points out all the holes in it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZPQdYJpYpV6qrc This was a live stream so its a bit jumpy, but hopefully you'll realize how bad this video actually is.

[@nadarith1044]

@@billyg898 _"his only source is a single book by a non-scholar"_ So just like christianity in general then?

[@billyg898]

@@nadarith1044 Ahh...no.

[@nadarith1044]

@@billyg898 Bible is a book soo...

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s complete nonsense, hold this guy did with skim through a few Wikipedia articles.

[@nathanmcdaniel9898]

The simple fact that early Jews were polytheist was the "last straw" that finally got me to no longer believe in Christianity. If I could no longer believe in Yahweh, then I could no longer believe in Jesus. Now I only believe in things that are evidently true now, so I am an atheist, as I have found no religion that has evidence to support it.

[@paradisecityX0]

I don't see how. The fact that the Israelites worshiped other gods is basic Sunday school knowledge. And in all fairness, Jesus never once refers to God as Yahweh. It's pretty sad you're this impressionable

[@nathanmcdaniel9898]

El and Elohim are also acceptable. The god of the Jews was stolen from the Canaanite Pantheon. El (the bull god) was the prime god. This tradition was stolen as much as the story of Noah was stolen from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Their beliefs were based on earlier traditions and did not suddenly come from the "true god." I said that this was the "last straw" but there were plenty of other "straws" in the haystack.

[@paradisecityX0]

El means "god/deity". El Elyon (God most high), actually, not El (the bull-god of that name, who the Canaanites saw as El Elyon's "son" in their mythology). And that still doesn't give the answer as to Yahweh's origins (which are - admitted by scholars - "unknown"). And being "stolen" is one conclusion (not the only one). But the flood narrative is a weak argument; even CS Lewis (you should read some of his work btw, he's pretty good at making you take a long, hard look at the world) pointed out that the story was based on the Gilgamesh account, along with the creation myth. Zouispora of Shurupakk, Utnapishtim, Noah, same person (not unlike Enoch and Krishna), same flood on which both stories were based, same location. OR, the Jewish beliefs were based on earlier traditions that were distorted over time and corrected again (but not entirely, since the bible itself is also distorted in many ways), but you say it did not come from God Itself as if it were fact. But whether or not you believe in Yahweh (actually YaHoVaH), that's just one version of God Itself, like El Elyon/Shaddai, Allah, Brahman, Ahura Mazda, Shangdi, Hunab Ku, the Great Spirit, among others. I still don't see why you're not a deist or pantheist rather than atheist. Just bc one version of God may be wrong (or distorted, if not outright misunderstood), certainly does not mean there is no God, or that Jesus/Yeshua was not who he said he was. I strongly suggest you regroup

[@mkl126]

@@nathanmcdaniel9898 thats the lies from the antigod academic community. The bible was preserved very well and any level headed scholars will admit. only those who hate God spew out lies because you get loved by people who willfully reject God and the god of this age Satan.

[@paradisecityX0]

@@ATTA_Joel9013 Be sure to subscribe and hit the bell!

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

I'm an Atheist, but Prince of Egypt is a great movie

[@paradisecityX0]

Pyro Gear And more accurate than anything this guy's presented lol

[@wocxdid8068]

+paradisecityX0 And where do you get this from? Are you saying he's a liar or something?

[@paradisecityX0]

Wocxdid Twisting the evidence to fit his conclusion. You've seen InspiringPhilosophy's rebuttal by any chance?

[@wocxdid8068]

not yet

[@manakin5]

@@wocxdid8068 You didn't miss anything. That rebuttal is laughable.

[@Jenkkimie]

Anyone know what Evid3nc3 is up to these days. Why has he stopped making KZbin videos? Shame since these are really good.

[@kevinclass2010]

He just finished his PhD. The reason by which he stopped making videos was because of the expensive fees for the background music he uses. He says that he used his student loans to make the videos.

[@Jenkkimie]

Kevin Lopez Oh wow. Well that is understandable. Thanks for the information. Has he talked about that he might someday return to make videos possibly? Would be shame to not get more videos from someone as talented as he is.

[@kevinclass2010]

Jenkkimie he said he would. But right now he is using WordPress blogs instead. I personally think it is unlikely he will make videos again since he should be like 30 by now. I do not know if he has a family yet.

[@Jenkkimie]

Kevin Lopez Alright, well thank you for the information anyways. =)

[@dodec8449]

Kevin Lopez What has your age to do with making KZbin videos?

[@nathancoblentzcoblentz7042]

Your infographic on the Doc Hypothesis is amazing. Thank you for putting this together!!

[@susansantini2968]

2023 🙏🏼 your video is still being appreciated.

[@MikeyMike-fb5hx]

It's all fake. Fables written by elitists to try and control the masses with false hope.

[@SororZSD23]

Excellent, informative, and elegantly presented and narrated video. In my own studies of the history of the Judeo-Christian tradition, I have understood that the ancient Hebrews emerged from other Semitic tribes, they were originally polytheistic, like other Semites, and originated as 2 main tribes. The main deity of one was El (in sympathy with other surrounding Semitic tribes) and the other YHWH (which was a secret sound, not a name, the pronunciation of which was like "Iao" or similar string of vowel sounds and influenced by Egyptian mysticism). These tribes ultimately joined. As stated in the video, Yahweh originally was not "the only god," but meant to be the only tribal god of the Hebrews. That is, the Hebrews were not supposed to step outside their culture to worship the gods of surrounding rival cultures, who were also considered to be "real." But they did worship this gods, considering that tracts from the Prophets section is constantly railing against the worship of Baal and other non-Hebrew Semitic deities. Another point about the OT is that, while elements point to historical events, those events are not in chronological order or described according to what we know actually happened via archaeological research. That is, the Biblical accounts are a kind of propaganda. The Genesis creation story is said to be derived from Babylonian mythology, the flood story a ubiquitous across cultures, and the lore about angel. This which carries over into and is reworked by Christianity and Islam. This is also derived from Babylonian culture. Many elements from the New Testament are also legendary and the history of the origins of Christianity how the NT came to be is also complex and quite different than the story ascribed to by Christians. I, however, do not feel that all of this historical evidence about the origin of Judeo-Christian tradition invalidates the religious tradition. All religions and religious philosophies are based on stories that adapt from and often twist and counter stories of preceding and surrounding cultures. As they say, the gods of one culture are the demons of another. Although is it wise to acknowledge that the Judeo-Christian and its god are man made, I think it is is also fair and wise to acknowledge that other elements of the Judeo-Christian tradition have value, especially for the person who can understand symbolic language, metaphor, and the underlying import of moral, philosophical, and spiritual messages within religious literature. Learning about the true origins of religions and and the whys and wherefores of their ontologies can either support one's atheis, which is OK, or else one's tolerance of the need among people for religion, which is OK too.

[@MeanKno]

Many years later and I still think this video is well thought out and makes valid points.

[@paradisecityX0]

You should see the rebuttal

[@MeanKno]

paradisecityX0 I'd love to. What should I search?

[@paradisecityX0]

+MeanKno Google the title of this vid and the word "rebuttal" (Inspiring Philosophy)

[@dianaspicer6100]

@Evid3nc3 Thank you so much for your series! The way you present combined with these graphics make for a great way to absorb information! I came across your channel a few weeks ago, and out of all the channels I have come across, yours has helped me the most after my own deconversion two months ago. If you put together a course on how to create a presentation of people’s stories using these simple yet sharp looking graphics, I suspect you could have several students. Like you, many of us have a passion for truth, and feel morally obligated to share our stories in hopes of sparing others further pain in following a false belief system. So much of what you shared in your presentation resonates with my own experience at the core level. The details of what led me to deconversion are different, but regardless, the issues boil down to the same problems. Your simple, sharp and reflective presentation helped me focus on what you have to say while enhancing the understanding of what you are saying. Plus, I feel like your work is shareable material that won’t come across offensive, only thought provoking. Thanks again for your efforts!

[@ascent7]

very interesting... a scripture that backs up the war like god is one in judges when judah says that the lord drove out some inhabitants but the lord could NOT drive out the people of the valley as they had IRON CHARIOTS...makes you wonder WHY the almighty could not overcome iron chariots....must christians are 99% unaware of that verse and its implications

[@whiterabbit75]

This. Makes. SO much sense! I had first learned from Sitchen (yeah, I know, shut up) that the bible was actually based on works from earlier cultures and religions, but this puts it all into much better perspective. I'm gonna have to look up this book and give it a read.

[@PoFFizdaMan]

This is a fascinating series and I'm so glad you were able to document your decent from Theism into rational thought and a more historically accurate worldview (please see my other comments on your Pantheism video), but i am a little disappointed that you neglected to mention Zoroastrianism and the powerful influence that this Persian religion had on the Israelites during their time of captivity and exile, since it was THIS monotheistic religion, and their righteous god of light Ahura Mazda, who really helped to solidify Jewish Monotheism and served as the ultimate source for many of the beliefs that carried over into Christianity, including: an all-evil god of darkness (Satan), a resurrection of the dead, and a final judgement, etc. P.S. If you talk about this in a later video, please comment and let me know where it is mentioned, because i think it IS highly significant to the evolution of Judeo-Christian Monotheism.

[@mwwillowtree]

The background music is fantastic!! The evidence is well researched.

[@waynegoldpig2220]

This is brilliant.

[@OfficialNisruoc]

***** ...and wrong. Hilariously wrong...

[@nocucksinkekistan7321]

Nisruoc Explain how it's wrong.

[@Dhorpatan]

Nisruoc It's wrong based off what? That video by InspiringPhilosophy and crew? LOL!

[@OfficialNisruoc]

Who? No, if you know anything about what he is talking about, its wrong. I don't have time to go through everything... Real theologians would laugh at this video.

[@waynegoldpig2220]

Nisruoc Who gives a fuck about theologians? They're full of shit and worship fairy tales.

[@expaddler]

I first read about King Josiah's "discovery" of Deuteronomy in Carl Sagan's book - The Demon-Haunted World on page 91.

[@wuuspigs]

Its a bit sad for us viewers that Evid3nc3 doesn't make videos anymore but what ever he's doing i hope he's doing good. These are some of the best videos i have ever seen and he comes off as an honest, knowledgeable, all around great guy.

[@wuuspigs]

And crafty as i am (lol) i did a quick search and found him on facebook. Evidence is alright:) Other than that i'll let him decide what he wants to share with the public.

[@johnston.scott64]

I've listened to this particular video at least 200 times in the last several months. I've heard a few of your others, but I wasn't so quite as impressed as this particular one. The few others I've heard, you try to use special effects, I mean they're common effects, reverb and echo, hoisting the bass, etc. This is the only video where you just calmly speak your mind. Subtle music that backs it up is a great touch. Just sitting in front of the microphone, speak your mind, speak of facts. That's all anyone will ever listen to. I have been in so many situations where I have tried desperately to convince people they don't even know what they're talking about, and they have no clue what god is. But in the last 7 years my life has changed so much I've learned to be, well and this is going to sound ironic, more like Christ. Calm, serene and humble in the face of people who would do me violence. I have never had to raise a hand against anyone during the period when I was homeless and living on the streets. When I angered people, I looked straight in the eye. I raised my hand to their heart, they instantly felt that Now I'm not saying I have any special magic touch or anything, it's so easy to calm the anger. And I find this last particular video extremely calming.

[@pavelsanda3149]

a very good summary

[@romainvicta9793]

It is a historical fact that the deity Yahweh was in the Canaanite pantheon. Yahweh was revered as a patron of war, and in some cases, creation itself. But this shouldn't come as a surprise to people. All religions adopt from the cultures that existed before them. What makes the god of Christianity / Islam any special in this respect?

[@goddamnkids75]

Because they won. I like how people like you don't understand anything about unity, about how we need to stick together and not fall. Atheism doesn't work because it only feeds off of the values of self-hedonistic bullshit and pride. God how old are you, 15?

[@romainvicta9793]

+goddamnkids75 Atheism, by definition, is the lack of belief in deities. Many people around the world do not believe in gods (deities). Hedonism is its own philosophy entirely. Most atheists I know of are not hedonists. Buddhists, by definition, are atheists, but are ascetics. "Because they won." What are you implying? What was there to be won? Also, I agree we need to "stick together and not fall", that is most certainly more important than mutual disagreements about theism. No, I'm not 15. Much older, actually. Nice ad hominem argument, by the way. Did you completely ignore my comment?

[@goddamnkids75]

Thom Crizack If you don't believe in God, you are against him. If you are against him you are against the west and the values you hold dear. You are the rat living in the house of western civilization. The EU is a sham that ruins national pride and is a horrible way to insure unity.

[@romainvicta9793]

+goddamnkids75 Sure man... have it your way. Do you believe in the tooth fairy? No? Then you're against the tooth fairy. Do you believe in Santa Claus? No? Then you're against Santa Claus. See the logic you're putting forth? It's rooted in some sensational and romantic view of how you see the world, and it's really quite circular and regressive. So, I'm against my own values? .... I don't think this statement is intelligent enough for a response. If there is no evidence to support the existence of God, then there is no reason to believe in this concept. So what if it's a matter of values? The Muslims have their own values, but you think those are wrong, so what should they do? Not follow their own culture? Cool story bro. That's a statement about the EU itself, not about what I was talking about though. Also, being proud of your birth nation is stupid. You didn't do anything to gain it, your parents fucked, and you were born there. You need to develop a more apt understanding of the word "pride". Also, isn't Christianity against pride? Is that not one of the seven deadly sins?

[@goddamnkids75]

Thom Crizack Having half of them endorse the terrorists doesn't help... Who the hell wants a utopia, all I want is to have pride in the country for which I am from. If you have no pride, no hubris to say that my country is better than yours, then why live their? God is in Heaven and all is right in the world. Borders are formed because it is in man nature. God gives the invisible hand and tries to lead it.

[@courierdude]

Holy crap man, this was really well done. Keep up this important work! 👍🏼😎🇨🇦

[@willfourth]

A very excellent summation of this book. I read it perhaps a year ago and found it absolutely fascinating. Good job sir.

[@easterbuny2226]

There are some people you can never get through and they will. believes whatever they want regardless of the facts

[@QueenBoadicea]

7:47 That explains why the Abrahamaic god of the Old Testament always seemed so wrathful, bloodthirsty, vindictive and murderous. Thanks for clearing up that!

[@migueltigrelazo]

He's so hippocrtical

[@mr.hazamayukiterumi2909]

Well, if getting evil ppl makes a god "bad" then I don't know what is 🤷‍♂️ Then again, humans are so blind to ignorance anyway

[@DChatc]

Desacrilize the language here for a bit: Replace "Yahweh" with "Patriotism", "Asherah" with "Commerce" and "Baal" with idk, royalty and basically you have Israel as being a military dictatorship, a junta similar to Kim Il Sung's government, based on an ideology similar to Juche.

[@AbdullahSameerVideos]

Very nice video. Thanks for the visual summary

[@WWZenaDo]

@0:54 - 0:58, any chance you could correct that "14,000 years ago" to "4,000 years ago"? If you're referring to the Sumerian origins of the Babylonian civilization, that should have been "6,000 years ago" or somewhere thereabouts, at the beginnings of the Sumerian culture. 14,000 years ago predates even the Gobekli Tepe temples in Turkey.

[@Swinefeld]

+WWZenaDo In Karen Armstrong's book, she also states the origins of god go back 14,000 years.

[@WWZenaDo]

Joseph Minardi Where on earth did she get that figure? Even the temples at Gobekli Tepe (which may show a transition from animism into anthropomorphized deities - PLURAL deities) are only around 11,500 years old. The bible itself is only around 3,000 years old, & the Israelite gods - rather the Canaanite polytheistic gods that preceded the Israelite gods aren't much older than that.

[@koot100]

well apparently the word "About 14,000 years ago" was used so it could be her idea of a rough estimate but i don't see justification for that unless she was unaware of some of the oldest ancient religious traditions at the time

[@KurruptCarrot]

This video is mindblowing...

[@toddsaskatchewan]

I'm having real trouble reading Armstrong's book. I'm glad you could interpret it for us.

[@eddieruminski4098]

+G. I would recommend checking out 'Who Wrote the Bible?' by Richard Elliott Friedman. All his work is scholarly but he wanted to write this book to be very accessible by the public (covers the Old Testament and the same time periods / concepts as Armstrong's book)

[@peace4universe]

There are two arguments to refute this video 1.Qur'an states " Many were the Ways of Life that have passed away before you: travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who rejected Truth."3.137. It was those who rejected truth and took for worship many gods that were destroyed in calamities so the unearthed material will also contain the evidence of their polytheistic belief. 2.Those who worship one God will not make idols to worship. How will the archaeologist know that the people in that locality were monotheistic in their belief.If no idol, that does not mean monotheistic, it simply means they might have been making idols from perishable things. Prophet's companion Umar used to make an idol from date, worship it and sleep off , will eat it off when hungry :) At every stage of human history there were both believers and non -believers.Evolution of polytheism into monotheism is simply conjecture

[@shalenah]

wow fascinating! even before leaving christianity, i often wondered even as a child about the conflict between the loving, caring god of the new testament and the scary and barbaric god of the old testament. especially when christians believe god is the same yesterday, today, and forever. everything makes SO much sense now. wish i could show this to family members

[@biotorex8999]

Yahweh is the most evil fictional character ever crafted

[@greenergrass4060]

Maybe he had a major Character Development. Kinda rushed though.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

This is great stuff. Where can I learn more?

[@matthewbittenbender9191]

Excellent video. I came to understand this by reading up on the various Creation myths in history. It always struck me as odd how there was a similar strain among them from 1700 BCE through Egyptian and up through the Abrahamic religions. The notion that we get our concept of yahweh from the Canaanites war god. All it took was for a few budding Hebrew leaders to use El/Yahweh as an angry god, and BOOM! Old Testament, baby! And every few centuries times change and more is added or changed to control the minds of people to do things they normally wouldn’t. In this way religion is sinister. While it makes some people do great deeds for their fellow man, it makes many do appalling things. And this “my god is stronger than your god” attitude still exists today. It jus goes to show that despite our advances we’re still too scared of the dark to as a species to be ok with dying and that being the end. These are the same people that claim that without God, People would jus do all kinds of illegal and vile things and society will collapse into anarchy. Well, it’s doing that now because of religion, not atheism.

[@tsjasmine28]

please make more videos, your voice is just so soothing and the information is top notch

[@aaronmunn2918]

You must have missed the bit where Karen Armstrong says she is a "freelance monotheist", not an atheist. The Documentary Source hypothesis is well known and accepted among mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics. It doesn't stop people from believing in God.

[@victoria6h]

She hasn't labeled herself as atheist, you're right. She's identified as a "mystic," which basically is a form of spirituality that's so vague, un-superstitious, and not based on any one specific religion whatsoever (she believes in "a single, universal transcendence and source of sacredness" and rejects all religious dogma) that she really can't be called a monotheist.

[@Jrockthefirst]

Maybe amongst religious scholars and theologians but I would not say that the lay people know of this hypothesis or believe it. At least not most of them.

[@AussieGriffin]

Damning research and a keen insight into the psychology of faith and religious zealotry. A.G.

[@jordanaoli9772]

By "God", do you mean "Yahweh" the iron age war god invented by jewish minds or do you mean something far greater and more complex?

[@fricketyfracktraintrack]

This video crossed my mind after watching some commentary about Christian fundamentalists. I first watched this video per the recommendation of a friend in high school. It was circa 2011, my last year of high school, and the year I turned 18. I had recently converted from identifying as a Jehovah's witness to a regular Christian, and I was still struggling with aspects of it, specifically prayer, hearing God's voice, that kind of shit. This video and the entire series, I shit you not, turned me from a Christian to an atheist literally overnight. Obviously it was facilitated by the doubts and some questions and thoughts I had at the time, but everything was presented so clearly and reasonably and it just resonated so much. When I see videos of Christian fundamentalists getting ripped to shreds for their shitty views, emotional immaturity, and lack of critical thinking, I'm just so grateful that I did not let that become my life. Evid3nc3, hope you're having a good life. You've done quite a good deed.

[@foughtthelol]

So could the true god(s) be unknown to us humans?

[@ther6989]

yes, but its ok.

[@FelipeV3444]

I'm impressed with the rate of likes over dislikes, and it's a lot of people. I always come back and watch it when I'm reviewing this sort of thing in my mind, it's very interesting. :)

[@paradisecityX0]

Anti-theists are always quick to jump into liking any video that's anti-religious (mostly just anti-Christian), no matter how twisted the information.

[@FelipeV3444]

paradisecityX0 Elaborate on that, what twisted information are we talking about?

[@paradisecityX0]

***** The twisted information in the vid of course (that God Itself was "invented" from the war god of the Canaanites, and the Israelites "making up" their own origin, etc.). It's more of a conspiracy theory (sounded interesting enough though) than actual scholarship

[@FelipeV3444]

paradisecityX0 Mhm, so what really happened, then?

[@paradisecityX0]

***** Well they did worship other gods, that much is true (which is mostly what pissed off God the most throughout the OT, that and their barbaric practices in the name of said gods). And recording what's been passed on orally, during the Exile. I see no alternative history to the Israelite's struggle in the OT, only an attempt at it (which again sounds interesting, but nowhere near factual as the vid presents it).

[@bigredred1007]

The best one so far. I like how it is broken down.

[@justaway6901]

Commenting for the youtube algorithm. Keep it rolling!

[@AtamMardes]

In the very beginning, man made idol gods. Then turned all idol gods into an invisible God. Then a peasant formed the delusional opinion that a barbaric attempt to murder his son on a mountain is the best way to establish a communication link with the invisible moral God. Then they made up the slavery promoting OT and claimed it to be the holy words of the timeless moral God; But later fixed some of its immoralities and re-released it as the new holy words of the timeless moral God. To back up their delusional beliefs, they made up miracle stories like virgin birth, resurrection, and walking on water. Religion is now a multi-billion dollar a year business successfully threatening the vulnerable naive with an imaginary hell for not believing in an imaginary God and rewarding their gullibility with an imaginary heaven. Salvation is a solution to a problem religion business has created. It's like someone going around cutting people with a knife in order to sell band-aid. Religion has got the duped naive by the balls.

[@hybridamerica]

Can we move on from this old fable yet? It's time for humanity to rise to it's proper height - "GOD is sooo 15th century.

[@PoeLemic]

Thank you for sharing this. This has really woken me up to the fictions in the religious text that I once trusted.

[@DonaldDarko]

Thanks again to the uploader for enlightening us with this accurate and true information. Without the connection of these sources and your excellent citation work, we would not have been able to use this video to expose the false arguments made by so many who have a vested interest in protecting the illusion of their creeds.

[@Keras33]

My new "favorite channel"!

[@SanabriaMan]

"How could the Hebrews be such idiots?" haha my favorite line

[@celestialbeing4767]

To understand Religion History is key!

[@adeajja2252]

Kings Standard to understand evolution,, u should throw away away your brain because u just a rock.

[@BearFruit90]

Honestly, this is the best deconversion video series on yt.

[@tarcal87]

Just see what a complicated, unfounded mess all this is. And this is just the brief outline of a tiny timeslice of a few religions. When will the time come when humanity will laugh that once we were so dumb...? We'll never see.

[@yeshuasage3724]

thank you so much, cant believe I wasted 23 precious years of the only life I will ever know on such manmade concepts

[@paradisecityX0]

Too bad you're that impressionable

[@manhattanvalleyofthedead2425]

@@paradisecityX0 It is sad he was so impressionable for 23 years, but I'm glad he's broke free of his programming now.

[@paradisecityX0]

@@manhattanvalleyofthedead2425 Nah, he's impressionable for swallowing the opinions of Evid3nc3 without any critical thought or examination. You look into this subject for 10 minutes and you'll find out that the leading proponents of the theories revolving around the so-called origins are Christian and Jewish scholars relaying how the early Israelites viewed God, not what is actually the case ontologically. And after 23 years of being wrong, he thinks he's right, which is amusingly sad

[@manhattanvalleyofthedead2425]

@@paradisecityX0 Evid3nc3 is correct about the polytheistic Canaanite origins of Yahweh, the only things he says in these videos that have no historical evidence is when he speculates on the motivations of the sources. Though the idea that someone who has just uncritically believed whatever religious doctrine they were told for most of their life would also uncritically believe whatever they hear on KZbin is fair.

[@paradisecityX0]

@@manhattanvalleyofthedead2425 He's wrong about the conclusions he derived from the data. It's a non sequitur. Which is one of many examples of fundamentalist xtians who leave the xtianity but keep the fundamentalism

[@nihilism2925]

Book of Neuteronomy

[@brian423]

I hit the "Like" button and favorited this even though I'm not an atheist. To make a long story short, I have my reasons to oscillate between monotheism and polytheism. Paradoxically, I find that the "debunking" leaves me feeling encouraged, not discouraged, in my religious journey. It's obviously not the video's intended effect, but it's what I have to report.

[@BryceRogers]

cool that you're being nice but how can debunking it make you more confident in it?

[@diegowhoistheman]

The same happen to me.

[@mrheal420]

religion: where reason comes to die. this is why people laugh at theists. at what point do you wake up and say hmm maybe there isnt an invisible man in the sky that watch's over us and loves us hmmm maybe i can go through my live and just try to be the best person i can with what ive been given and not have to worry about an eternity of excruciating pain for not loving and following someones dumb rules (Leviticus 19:19 your going to hell if you wear mixed fabircs). this is whats halting true progress

[@shawnfox1100]

alex v Can't really blame him. Have you ever seen someone mix plaids and stripes?

[@paulyoung7822]

I don't like when people just make a video and expect people to believe it just like that without any evidence at all. That caused me to be very rational..... like where does the first man gets the idea of making a god to worship if there wasn't a falling away of worshipping the true God in the first place?

[@thebatmanover9000]

SHOW MORE box bra.

[@agelo]

i don't like how people narrow their view only for this video because you can actually go to library or buy many books about this, it is included about history, civilisation, sociology etc. there is actually professor and scholar who study about this don't u know? this video not just making empty claim like the bible or harry potter but it has sources that are actually studied from anything we can find from ancient writing and archives. do u know why every warlord who worshipping allah or the judea yahwe burn library? of course to erase knowledge and evidence that their got is as fiction as frodo, capt picard or harry potter. please religion people please study, asking question and research. to many prayer do nothing to improve your life, u did know that he the mighty god yahweh never answer your pray because, yes we human who created god by our own image.

[@KendrixTermina]

Because humans see patterns everywhere; A side effect is that we see false positives. We see ":)" and think it's a face, we naturally associate the weather with human moods. So it doesn't take any "forgotten true god" for people to think of the sky like a person.

[@Polymeron]

"without any evidence at all" - you may have missed the really long-ass list of references in the video description. The vast majority of what's in this video is in the scholarly consensus, based on the archeological and historical evidence.

[@machineman2120]

Mihht I add.. Watching this video series is the very moment i dropped my faith

[@mewpeach9]

This made me stop believing in"god".Thank you :)

[@tomkop213]

best video on this subject ive seen in months. good job

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

We have formulated a response:

[@carmelka9326]

***** Hi IP, can you post the response?

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

***** I have a response to your response. I'm not tellin though.

[@alexsnowberg2181]

***** Just not a very intelligent one.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

Alex Snowberg I sat there and watched the whole thing. They were all defensive, like "That's so ridiculous." about silly little points and then they basically agreed with him about everything. So I commented about how defensive they were and they got all defensive again. XD It basically went nowhere.

[@tibiademon9157]

+InspiringPhilosophy "Formulated"? You're giving yourself too much credit for a skype hangout.

[@cuearesty]

So cool. I wanna reread the bible now. Also... What a crying shame that people, so many people, nations and civilizations had to die because some religious zealots couldn't leave the other be. Still happening now. -_-

[@gretchenrobinson825]

The Cosmic Christ says the much of the bible is from Egyptian scriptures in many places word for word. I like that this uses BCE (Before the Common Era) rather than Christian 'scholars' who continue to insist on AD (anno domino--in the Year of our Lord)

[@senor2930]

Domini being a form of Dominus, literal word for Master/Owner!

[@lasrealistas2185]

OK, lets suppose that there is a god, why do i need him? Why do I need to pray? I am good as I am, helping my community to grow educated.

[@KyleP133]

The true story behind the bullshit is way more moving and touching than the fairytale nonsense. The history of these people is way more fascinating.

[@grammarnazi5688]

I agree.

[@Tdisputations]

You are kind of putting your own spin on things here. Of course, even without the historical context given by sources outside of the Bible, we know the Israelites struggled with polytheism. This isn't new, or shocking information. And, yeah, people wrote the Bible and people struggled over what should be believed. This is all documented in the Bible. Did you think God delivered the Bible on a golden platter from heaven? You see, the way Christians see the Bible is as a development. From the understanding of God to the understanding of salvation. I would never say the first believers in God knew everything. We don't even know everything now. There is simply no reason to believe based on this that God is a human invention. That was your prior belief being snuck in without being entailed by the evidence. It could be just as likely that God gave revelation over time to people refining our view of God.

[@RSShurman]

What about the literal thousands of other gods that have existed from the beginning of human collective civilization? I suppose that makes all of those gods 100% real and reputable in every sense. But of course, that doesn't align with your worldview, so those gods must be inventions of other cultures. There are still 2000 people worshipping the ancient Roman / Greek pantheon of gods. A singular god is an invention of humans to them, as I'm sure their gods are to monotheists. The only people that are in the right, in any form of religious debate, are those that state that there is no significant evidence for any form of god, therefore I do not believe there is one: Claiming that there IS infact a god, human made or otherwise, rests the burden of proof upon the claimant. It is the duty of religious people to present evidence FOR god, and not for atheists / generally intelligent people to provide evidence against god, if religious people generally want their claims to be considered. That's basic debating and logical form. The burden of proof does not, however, lie upon those stating certainly that there is no god; as proving an ever changing "all powerful" (not to mention unviewable) god is impossible to disprove. You can't disprove something that is claimed not to be perceivable in any way.

[@Tdisputations]

Blazara You are not really addressing the topic at hand. The topic is whether the claims in the video imply that God was created by man. Clearly not. That's without even disputing the claims. That said, the reason I do not accept that the greco-roman gods exist is because I have seen no evidence for them. I think it is possible that they exist, but yeah, I would suspect they were invented. Why do you think I believe in God if I don't think there is evidence for God? You're being a bit silly. I have no doubts you know Christians have arguments for God's existence. If not, then search google; it's that simple. You're not being honest comparing God to greco-roman gods. We don't have arguments for their existence in peer-reviewed journals.

[@RSShurman]

***** Evidence for God? Measurable, observable, debatably quantitative evidence? That sounds like a treat; please direct me to some that would stand up under any form of scientific investigation. For every piece of "evidence" for God, there are a thousand calculable flaws in the events within the Bible. Noah's flood for instance. Seriously, that shit is ridiculous. Creationism as a whole is ridiculous. And I swear, if you pull that "some of it's only metaphorical" bullshit, I will not reply; you can't pick and choose what you believe if you don't want atheists to pick and choose parts of the Bible to highlight flaws in Christian morals and reasoning.

[@Tdisputations]

Blazara Thomas Aquinas' first and third ways, for example. Both of these arguments use measurable facts like motion and contingency. It's not really controversial. Again, look through some peer-reviewed journals on the existence of God some time rather than repeating what non-experts like Richard Dawkins claim. You don't seem to understand how the culture worked in the ancient world. They had all kinds of myths that the people were into and likely believed to some degree. All the Bible does is take those myths and removes the mythology from those stories to portray a more accurate picture of God. It's like how the movie Noah changed the story of Noah to better reflect modern day culture. It's just a product of culture; doesn't mean there are not truths to be found in it.

[@RSShurman]

***** Are you trying to claim that there is a nugget of truth behind the "Great Flood" stories? Despite the fact that they all originate from the same Mesopotamian valley? The story is absurd. I believe the Bible also states that beyond the firmament was a layer of water that fell to Earth as rain. Absolute bollocks of the highest order. As for Aquinas' ways.. www .rejectionofpascalswager.net/aquinas.html As the author of this page so kindly shows; Aquinas' views are only plausible to those that have practically no knowledge of physics or of anything on a subatomic level. In response to the third way: that's the most moronic and fallatic argument I think I've ever read. Physicists are working on how "something comes from nothing" as we speak; read some papers by Krauss, the man is a genius. Quoted from the linked page itself regarding the third way. "It is noted that the conclusion of the Cosmological Argument is that there exists a being who owes its existence only to itself and nothing else. But it should be remembered that one of the basic premise of the argument is that there is no being that owes its existence to itself. This openly contradicts the final conclusion, which states that God is the being that owes its existence to itself. Thus the third way commits an elementary logical fallacy." *EDIT* I find your claim that I must know little about ancient world cultures deeply insulting. I've studied Latin language alongside Roman and Greco civilizations to a high level through personal study. I've also read a number of books and articles regarding Babylonian mythology, as well as a number of articles, books, and archaeological papers on the peoples of ancient Britain and Central America.

[@MDE1992]

Very interesting video which sums it up succinctly. From a former Catholic 🇳🇱

[@henrykissinger6024]

Oh thank God! I now know about my god yhwh even better... I only read passages about yhwh now I use my devotion to yhwh to justify my hate and violence thanks to this.video!!

[@IamEigee]

...I hope you're being sarcastic.

[@1991stratplus]

What do you hate anyways? and what is your justification for your hatred?

[@MChimz]

Obvious sarcasm is obvious :3

[@henrykissinger6024]

1991stratplus non-yhwh worshipers, like it says in yhwh book

[@1991stratplus]

***** That about sums it up, i know your being sarcastic, I'm just playing along.

[@raineparker7722]

Stop using BCE, I assume you don't call Thursday "Common Day 4" because you don't believe in Thor? BCE/CE piss me off so much with their pretentiousness.

[@champion8795]

BCE/CE are used by many archaeologists and historians as BC/AD just aren't very accurate for their names. The man it was based on, Jesus, was born around 6 or 7 BC, or before Christ. This doesn't seem like a big deal, but it does mean if BC/AD was accurate we would be in 2021 AD or so. Personally I don't want to base a system on inaccuracies, but I guess everyone's different.

[@dkram89]

I will pray for you

[@champion8795]

"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer." -Madalyn Murray O'Hair

[@stevebob1967]

A agree with you. The whole BCE/CE garbage is just a lame attempt to try and discredit the influence of Christianity on the modern world.

[@ForeverTheSickGamer]

stevebob1967 You realize the majority of the world isn't christian, right? Declaring that everyone should bend to a dating system based on your beliefs is arrogant and naive. And perhaps you missed the part that it isn't even accurate? No, BCE/CE is not some dumb conspiracy it's a secularized thing for ease of international use.

[@MsJimFit]

Atheists put reason over faith while for atheism the Universe has no reason of existence. Sounds Legit. LoL!

[@Mantafirefly]

Yeah, yeah it does sound legit. We have the honesty to say when we don't know why the universe exists. People with faith insist they have the answer, but because it's faith, it is an answer presented with no evidence or compelling reasons, making it irrational and at the same time promoting the arrogance of your comment. It is also an answer which stifles the search for real answers. Your faith can be dismissed as easily as we both dismiss the faith of any other religion.

[@MsJimFit]

Mantafirefly No Evidence? Sorry but the Universe is Fine Tuned for Life so we have Scientific Evidence to support it. www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2013/08/carbon-12-of-giant-red-stars-does-it-suggest-a-universe-fine-tuned-for-life.html You on the other hand have not, where is Randomness Nothingness and Luck in Science? The Universe MUST came from something, this something cannot be eternal materialistic something because as we know it violates the constants so where is the reason? How can you put reason over faith while your nihilistic view of the world doesn't support reason? Reason = Determinism

[@Mantafirefly]

If you think the fine tuning argument is a case for your specific christian god of the burning bushes, global floods and a magically resurrecting illogical virgin born man, then you're completely missing the point of how much evidence you need to provide since there are MILLIONS of other proposed spirits, gods and other fanciful ideas which are all congruent with that idea. If this is you putting your best foot forward then you may as well stop now. Why is it that the religious always have to play word games to argue for their god? If it exists, then show evidence, not word salad. The Universe seems deterministic to me. And it's silly that you think you can say the universe must come from something and then propose something that conveniently doesn't come from anything. It's so hypocritical. You can point at all of the unknowns in science all you want. They're unknown, and that's that for now. It doesn't give you a free license to insert whatever magical thinking you want.

[@MsJimFit]

Mr JimFit P.S God is one because he is Eternal, you don't say Eternities or Materialisms so you don't say Gods, there is no plural for these words. People express God with different religions but this proves God, when every culture talks about God something made them talk about it, they feel its presence. The default position is that we are immaterial beings so its no one brainwashed us about God, read this experiment that proves my point. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140127164835.htm

[@Mantafirefly]

"P.S God is one because he is Eternal, you don't say Eternities or Materialisms so you don't say Gods, there is no plural for these words." Word salad nonsense, did you even watch the video you're commenting on? Your god Yahweh is one of a former polytheist religion. "People express God with different religions but this proves God," This is called the "Argumentum ad populum" fallacy. It doesn't matter how many people believe some spirituality, it doesn't prove any god, let alone *your* god. All of the people in the world once childishly assumed the earth was flat and the sun went around it, that didn't make them right either, in fact it rather demonstrates that the ideas humans dreamt up while as tribal barbarians were mostly wrong. It's funny isn't it? You're trying to prove a god that is defined as being everywhere, wants to have a personal relationship, actively intervenes, constructed the cosmos and wrote the bible. This should be *easy* to prove. Yet the best evidence after 2,000 years is that "People feel its presence" and a few wishy washy word games. *Wow*. Where's the hard stuff and the real evidence? It's so bad that I don't think you're able to see how bad it is. After all, you quoted that link thinking it supports your view when it actually demonstrates the human capacity to make up gods independently of other humans doing the same. *Your god is just another one of these made up fantasies* most likely forced onto you before you had the mental maturity to assess them.

[@yaruqadishi8326]

Adam and Eve story is also Canaanite related cuz we Canaanites have found our ancestors mythos of Adimi and Habiha which they were in the garden of Yadinu and eat the fruit from trickery of demonic serpents and we're kicked out by Baal whom sent his angels Malakima with swords to drive out the first man and woman. So genesis 1 also is Canaanite in origin.

[@gordonculp5340]

This video islies and flips truth on its head.The God of the bible and its people is much about the conflict with the canaanites and the babylonians. The bible specifically mentions how many figures took Yahweh as one of their Gods. The bible explains this, this is not an example of Yahweh being descended from the a pantheon of God, but groups of people that included Yahweh as one of theirs among many, which also in the bible explicitly speaks about with great detail. See Esau and Solomon who also partook in this. The still claimed to worship God, but additionally served other ones as well. Its quote ironic we dont see any follows of baal or of the babylonian pantheons today. You are right about one thing though that in the pagan relioions the Gods are interchangeable. From babylon to egypt to persia to geece and to rome. Also explained in the bible. a very poor, ill informed irrational video.

[@Personmr]

the worshipers of the other cananite gods were killed. if you read through the bible you will see the jews depicting themselves as killing the believes in the gods they considered false. for example "the queen of heaven" described in jerahmia was a possible reference to the canaanite goddress asherah. the name beelzebub (which means lord of flies) is a intentional renaming of another god whos name ment the lord on high. the jews werent exactly tolerant to people who worshiped gods other than yhwh.