2.8 Landcruiser VS Prado, Ronny VS Fire to Fork

[@firetofork]

I haven't laughed this much filming a video in years. Go the Rav5!

[@DaOzMan0608]

@@firetofork it's a joke but here in the States there's a Corolla Cross, which is basically a RAV5.

[@danielschiller6785]

That door hitting Ronny was just 😂😂😂 the timing 😂

[@alanmohn4146]

That was one of the funniest videos I have seen in a while. Great comparisons.

[@Col.B1]

Sold prado for 2.8 78, needed payload and storage space. Done 16,000 kms, Troopy set up for camping and Ive been towing 2.5 t hybrid camper for last 8000 kms, currently on WA coast half way through a half lap via SA, NT and the Gibb to Derby, heading south and passing through Perth next week for a camper repair. The 78 has tackled everything so easy and tows much better than the Prado. Love your work, cheers

[@andrewb5887]

what's the mileage like?

[@Col.B1]

@@andrewb5887 Just finished 14,000 km half lap trip VIC,SA,NT,WA, VIC today actually towing 2.5t hybrid van, over every on road and off road surface except snow, averaged 14lt/100kms.

[@andrewb5887]

@@Col.B1 welcome back. Not bad at all with all that behind it. How’s the auto in all those conditions? Also is the weight near gvm?

[@kenoriel9685]

I used to think the Prado was a shopping trolley as well. Now I own a 90 series 3.4 auto. Over half a million KMs. I've done some of the toughest tracks in Australia with this car n I absolutely LOVE IT

[@MrAcewish]

Same tought. Before i had a defender and had to remove it and know i own a 90 series and wouldnt go back for defender

[@principal7819]

I’ve got a 90 series V6 too. I reckon it’s the most underrated 4wd ever.

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

90 series is a bloody ripper!

[@andrevanderwalt2515]

My first 4wd was a prado vzj95. A great 4wd. I ended up getting into a manual Amarok because I wanted a manual, I got to a stage where the obstacles I was attempting required a rear locker, and the fuel consumption was silly... I recon a manual Prado with a rear locker would have solved it mostly anyway. I had to buy the Amarok and have it on the driveway, to actually get to the point of selling my Prado cause I liked it too much!

[@OnCountryWithMick]

Personally I would take the Prado over the Landcruiser simply because most of a persons driving, mine as well, is done on the black top. The comfort levels and styling of the Prado are much nicer. If you need to be towing a 3.5t Caravan than maybe you should just buy an RV or stay home. The 76 in my opinion is way too industrial for daily driving and given the price point on this one and older ones you would expect more creature comforts, even simply the same wheel track front & rear would be a bonus. As for the Prado being a Landcruiser question, Nope never, They were designed to compete the with Pajero and copied a lot especially in the older models.

[@oggyoggy1299]

Yeah, they’re a Landcruiser.

[@venrocking]

Prado - better tourer, 76 series - better off-roader. Pick what's your priority and enjoy the ride.

[@JimBob-vb8oz]

But then you don’t get 6 weeks of content

[@samyeomans6710]

I actually reckon the prado is better off road. It’s easier and has a better centre of gravity.

[@ianwatson3315]

@@JimBob-vb8ozvery unstable off road .

[@venrocking]

@@samyeomans6710 It's a bit worse stock. But adding front diff lock isn't that expensive compared to total price of the car.

[@tim9241]

Both are capable. Prado better off-the-shelf jack of all trades 70 series presents as a blank canvas more easily modified.

[@KabirDhupelia]

I really appreciate the cut scenes with the tractor and the trolley 👏🏽 well produced

[@jamesmazurstudios]

The quality and efforts involved in making this video doesn't go unnoticed. So much content packed in with so many angles. Well done.

[@OutbackOutlaw]

@@jamesmazurstudios fully agree

[@peterstaggs1956]

VX 2021 owner here. Very happy with Prado. We had to have Lovells GCM upgrade as stock GCM too low. Tows our 21’ touring van well and averaged 16.3l/100km over last trip covering 12000km. Best thing is fuel capacity, able to just keep going to destination. More power would be good but I’m learning to just push harder on loud pedal. We tow at 100 kph, on LT 265/65r17 tyres. Not considering 250series Prado though, I want more power in next vehicle. Cheers

[@HugoBoss-mi6fv]

I tossed up between a Prado and a 76. Ended up with an Ex demo Prado as it was cheaper, more comfortable and just did everything I needed it too. They are a fantastic all round 4wd. But every time i look at a 76 I just want one, flawed yes but absolutely oozing with character.

[@nigellevey]

Well said, i agree fully.

[@OutbackOutlaw]

They both win. Both built by the best 4x4 company on the world. Both tried and tested.

[@robdunham7398]

Absolutely!!!

[@robdunham7398]

Only wish I could buy a 76 in the US. ☹️

[@GCTO239]

Agreed

[@AussieDazza]

Yeah right, the only 4x4 I have owned that had a major failure was a Toyota pos

[@billmccarthy5920]

@@AussieDazzaRAV 4?

[@jarrodwatson7933]

We need more of this 🙌 😂😂😂 bloody near pissed myself with you two having some good old banter

[@makokha75]

Ronny&Co. Just want to say this was a hilarious, yet very practical comparison for adventurers.. Keep up the brilliant work..

[@Andy-s1t6r]

Both great vehicles. In stock, give it to the 76 for offroad adventures. Prado is a very strong competitor, with a degree of refinement. 🚙

[@mikezog1030]

Actually offroad those diff centres will do it no favours...

[@gonegliding2966]

"no, the other left" is a legit navigation direction. Thanks for the laugh!

[@DonGraham-w6y]

Looks like you had a ball making the show . Very entertaining.😊

[@PajEvo_Aus]

Great video. I'm going to give Bornholm beach a go in my Pajero Evolution when I'm there over xmas and see how it compares

[@rrphotography3600]

I like how Harry is partly right about the 76 series being a Prado. Because it was the birthplace of the Prado. 1990-96 70 Series Prado basically has the same body, coils at each corner, auto and a turbo 4 cly diesel. Its funny that its nearly come full circle to where the Prado started from. Very enjoyable to see the LC150 Prado and being compared back to the LC76.

[@boringusername792]

70 series is designed for the mines but is excellent for hard-core stuff. The prado can just about keep up but if you need a daily with weekend warrior duties, it is far superior. Just happy Toyota make both!

[@Sh4dow682]

that was great! Thanks Ronny.. and Harry :)

[@tomdixon7955]

So what you’re saying is the Grenadier has the solidity and almost the payload of the 70 and almost the comfort of the Prado. So the Grenadier is the sensible choice?

[@1Coolbanana]

Until you break down somewhere remote and need parts

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

Prados are very capable but the big killer is lack of internal space. I would take a 90 series over any other Prado simply because they are not so full of electronics and are IMO better off road.

[@BigFellaGames]

Landcruiser officialy categorise the landcruiser range as light duty (Prado), medium (300 Series) and Heavy (70 series) so officially, a prado is a landcruiser.

[@eamon1648]

And the original Prado is literally a 76 body

[@BigFellaGames]

@@eamon1648 yeah, but smaller engine options and front coil suspension... even had an interior update later on. So, yeah, they took a heavy duty and made it lighter.

[@Lancelot.666]

I have a V8 100 series cruiser and I would just love your fuel efficiency you get out of either one...😂😂😂😂😂

[@pounceonyou1958]

Very good, and next could we have the new Prado vs this older one.

[@jb3757]

This was the best video, laughed so much.

[@harryp6915]

You guys clearly had too much fun making this video.

[@47Rolling]

Interesting about the payload on the prado. Basically 5 adults and you’re maxed out before the luggage goes in

[@DaOzMan0608]

All you need is a GVM upgrade, it's not like either of these are stock anyhow.

[@47Rolling]

@@DaOzMan0608 that’s the point I’m making mate. You spend almost $90k on a car and then need to upgrade it just to carry a boot full of shopping as well as the passengers. In fact if you get a Bullbar, winch, sidesteps,roof rack and tow bar all pretty standard stuff you may not even be able to put people in the back seat without an upgrade. Legally that is.

[@oggyoggy1299]

The 76 is brilliant….if you never want to drive on the road or do more than 85km/h or ever be comfortable.

[@tangoduck01]

Great evenly balanced video. Thanks mate.

[@DaOzMan0608]

Prado all day everyday! I love the V8 in my URJ150. Here in the states we can even slap on an OEM factory with warranty.

[@steventhebushwog]

I love it when u guys get together and goof off. 😂😂

[@anthonyking9284]

76 for the outdoors people , prado for accountants bankers and city folk .

[@terrydactyl7708]

Although the 76 looks better, the wheel track issue is the downfall. It will always loose until this major engineering fault is addressed IMO

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

BuT iTs A dEsIgN fEaTuRe

[@terrydactyl7708]

@@lawnerddownunder3461 isn’t that what we are comparing here? 🤷

[@lawnerddownunder3461]

@@terrydactyl7708 fault vs design feature?

[@terrydactyl7708]

I refer to it as a fault however this ‘fault’ is no accident. Toyota intentionally designed it this way as a ‘feature’ to fit the v8@@lawnerddownunder3461 seemingly like semantics now. Either way, I will never pay a high price for any vehicle with differing wheel tracks. 70s will always suck until this is addressed.

[@dlansburg2673]

I never was crazy about mini vans,I’ll take a 76 every day. Thanks it was a great comparison! And Funny

[@Rob.Salta90]

Why is the 150 series Prado called a shopping car/soccer mums car when I see more mums driving 200 and 300 series haha😂

[@matt895816]

There's also the fact that the Prado is less likely to kill you and your passengers should you have a collision. For that reason it's Prado for me as mainly used to drive my family around. I do love the 76 though.

[@nzmarkb8713]

Once you put a 4 cylinder in it it goes back to being a Prado 😂😂

[@nkend13]

Pink Flamingo!! Pink Flamingo!! I am laughing too much ... 😅

[@shanenorwell8580]

You could honestly not give me a 70 series landcruiser but Great content as always mate.

[@stevenloynds3691]

I guess it comes down to what you priorities and what you plan to use the vehicle for...my choice would be Parado because there similar price you get so much more bells and whistles with the Parado and if I only own one vehicle I rather something that is good for daily duties...

[@matschmoon399]

😂😂😂 Soooo funny! Thx, folks! Made my day 😅

[@johncunningham4820]

Tan - Track - tor . Very good . With the Axle correction the 76 would drive straight too .

[@petevawser7310]

Best car comparison ever.

[@TJRshots]

That was so stupid. I love it!

[@EvanMoon]

Solid always win. Coolest vehicle because it looks good and looks like it’s supposed to be off-road

[@RobbMinion]

good vid, loved the banter

[@TJackSurvival]

I loved this. Thanks for making it! ❤😂❤

[@fishstixfishingadventures]

Keep it up! Great little bit of fun and banter for a Sunday morning. I did looked at the Landi but couldn’t justify it for my needs and I didn’t go the Prado either.

[@Sh4dow682]

Hey Harry! good to see you here :)

[@islasdad5775]

It's an argument of horses for courses! If you actually need the capacity go the tractor. If you want most of the capacity and the comfort go the shopping trolley!

[@taijensen1627]

I wouldn’t trade my 150 prado for a 70 series

[@DaOzMan0608]

@@taijensen1627 NEVER! I have a URJ150 so it's a V8 petrol USDM Prado. It curb stomps these new baby Land Cruisers in the power department while still getting 11mpg city and 23 mpg highway rolling on 32" Falken WildPeak AT3Ws. The only other modern LC I would consider is the 200 which here comes with a petrol 5.7L V8.

[@IronSparks155]

I would, but only because we are looking at doing the lap and it seems that the 76 beats the 150 for towing. Bloody hard to justify the price though - especially when for not too many more $$$ you can get a Y62....

[@Mrskyline25t]

The editing 10/10

[@petermcmurtrie]

😂😂😂😂😂 Truth is Id happily take either of them on a Cape York Trip without hesitation. 🙂👍

[@veneratedmortal4369]

The thing with towing is if the prado is legal to tow your load, you would pick that car every thime. You still have to drive the car and be in it.

[@BundyToo]

Who wins? ....... The Grenadier in the background, for my money!

[@martinarthur8928]

Just commented on the Perth diesel channel that instead of buying the 2.8, am better of getting the 90's prado with a 3.0 litre diesel...only to hear Ronnyz 76 being called a Prado and YES IT IS

[@seanchristie7150]

Fantastic comparison, still think the Prado is an honorary Land Cruiser, as it has too many creature comforts.

[@kwasikyeremeh3734]

Having adverse to both is nice. Not having access to the 70, makes it more appealing to me.

[@1nando632]

Im not sure why they keep saying the prado isn't a LC. Only LC' are made in the LC factory in Japan. Specifically the 70 series, the prado and the 200(discontinued)/300 series. The 70 series is for industrial/ farm/commercial use, the 200/300 series for towing duties and comfort, the prado slots right in the middle offering a compromise of everything. This is the LC factory in Japan in case you're wondering. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHXiGdppp56n8Usi=n8Abg2f1nRODSjv4 Note, that although LC' are tough, patrols are tougher😜

[@4lowandgoslow]

It's one of the best videos ,

[@richardwalsh5570]

Super editing 😂

[@mashanagirl]

I am here only for the shaninigans😂 these guys bring when they get together.I don't care about who wins or what they are talking about. In saying that though both of you do good educational videos any other time. 🎉

[@GCTO239]

Entertaining video. 🤙🏼

[@stevesmith3556]

That was fun😊❤

[@mmmMarkyyyy]

Both win. Both are super nice.

[@philsymons9614]

That was bloody funny, just like the Prado vs Hilux. The real winner is the viewing public, Watching you two hang shit on each other is rather amusing!

[@andypearce7479]

Drive 70 series for work. Used to have a Prado. Now drive the vehicle I saw lurking in the background or this vid. All have pluses. None are perfect. Otherwise we wouldn't spend so much time and money modifying them...

[@EARTHROMR]

Would still take my 05 V6 6 speed manual Prado over either of those. Let me know how either of those cars are doing in 19 years

[@darrensmith4661]

The basic test looks like a party trick/challenge by a couple of lads after a couple of beers.

[@mitchellholdsworth8582]

As a local can you pronounce Bornholm correctly. Like born-home. As a proper land cruiser man I’ll probably choice the Prado over the 76

[@GOATHartt90]

Hahaha, fan of the 76 More of what I would lean towards if I had to build 1 or the other. 👍🏻

[@richardwalsh5570]

How good ❤ Fred is cool

[@justinearl8083]

Liked it

[@chrisfanchier2318]

I guess it depends on one's needs and preferences. One thing that gets me is how the 79 series costs way more for being so basic! With that out of the way can we talk about how Harry looks like Kano from Mortal Kombat?!

[@ekinteko]

What do people think about the Mitsu Pajero Gen4 SWB ?? It's reinforced body monocoque, shorter, and lighter, with their Dakar 4WD System.

[@bruce7890]

I'd have one over the Prado... Not sure about the 70 series... Depends on the application I guess...

[@bintox3633]

This was definitely filmed after a few bourbons. Great mates just doing what great mates do.

[@stevenlippis5488]

The first prados were the 70 series prado. So yeah. Old prado.

[@njingaradebe9652]

I'd still choose the 76

[@GCTO239]

ChallEnge, mate! 😂

[@OutbackOffroadNT]

For balls out work, 70 all day, for shopping and coffee runs, prado 🤷‍♂️🎣

[@brokenlegz]

Bowlegged 70saurous 😂😂😂😂 I need to remember that

[@joshburke4083]

*meanwhile 200 and 100 series to these 2; "that's cute". The FTE and twin turbo V8 would eat these 2 alive!

[@bjjaymilgrau8208]

Great video Ronny. Hey Ronny can you make a video about gvm coil conversion vs leafs ?

[@thebob3712]

Why hasn't the wheel track difference been rectified since the reason for it was the width of the V8, or is the 2.8 just as wide?

[@kevinsummersford4112]

Look guys I love both the prado be good for comfort and family wise but I'd not get leather I'd go gxl spec and go from there as for the 76 I love the agricultural look of them and the solid axle as I have a 105 wagon as for more rough stuff the 76 is the way to go but each to their own really, If I really had to pic, 76 wagon

[@nawiribrahim]

Guys Is the Ineos Grenadier best of both of these?

[@whiteunicornDR659]

The Prado is better in vast majority of aspects. The question is, can a 70 series owner’s ego accept that 😂

[@Tom-lf8hx]

Dont forget the 13 speaker +2 subs in the prado ahahahahahhahaahahah

[@DirtyHarry000]

Hey Ronny, any chance on doing a video on seat upgrades?

[@craigquann]

I can absolutely do without all the fancy Wizz-bang electronics. Heated seats are nice but not leather. I've found IFS better as the skid plate literally let's you slide over a lot of terrain. I like the look of the 76 more. Plus better towing and payload.

[@rocklander.project]

As a 60 Series owner I need that T Shirt “Leaf Springs Are For Poor People” 😅😅😂

[@SimonTK_]

at 5:14 you guys are discussing roof load rating. where did you get the number of 120 kg for the prado? here in switzerland the official rating is 80kg, but apparently that is a conservative estimate and is actually the rating of the factory rails. in ronny's other video on roof ratings 100kg is given for the prado 150. Finally, here in switzerland there is company that can get your roof rating tested and certified for 250 kg. so far, i just load as much as needed, as little as possible, but that's not a particularly solid way to go about things. a definitive answer would still be appreciated 🤷

[@user-yl9vs9eh1w]

My 2018 LC150, second highest EU trim which has the integrated rails, says 80KG. The manual mentions 100KG if the directly mounted tripple crossbars are used instead (they're Toyota OEM but manufactured by ARB). Same rating as for example the new Defender, although that one has interesting notice in manual, to make it 70perc. for off-roading. Because of this, I hesitated to mount 270W awning next to my iKamper since that one is already almost 80KG and awnings are additional 20-30KG. Imho it has nothing to do with roof or rails for most part, but mainly due to ride characteristic&safety. Another interesting thing Defender has in manual that the dynamic load rating goes up with stronger off-road tyres, meaning the dynamic load rating might be mostly influenced by moose test/corner swaying.

[@chinski1]

A 1970s brick VS a hilux wagon 😂

[@carldryan]

The 76 is fine if you love back pain.

[@Peter_s_toyotami]

I'm like why not both, and that's why I own J150 and HZJ76

[@alistairandhailey]

Haha the Seventysaurus

[@mungbean84]

Mr. Cowboy will be disappointed in you Harry that you missed the chance of calling it a wannabe GQ. To be thorough Ronny you should try and track down a 2.8l GQ/GU auto if they still exist and haven't been rolled or lost to the ocean by P platers.

[@nadirteymurov1]

We want to see more Harry videos !