2 Bagua Masters FIGHT - Pa Kua COMBAT

2 Bagua Masters FIGHT - Pa Kua COMBAT. Bagua or Pakua is one of three main internal fighting systems of Chinese Martial Arts called Kung Fu! Baguazhang or Pa Kua Chang is a Taoist Martial Arts Style which walks the circle and is a sister art to Tai Chi. Enjoy these Bagua Fighting Applications and Form Training. Practice them everyday safely with a partner! Consistent practice is key! :)
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[@BlackPenzo]

An airbender wearing a "be water" shirt. Top 10 anime betrayals

[@yunjin3763]

Hes the avatar🤩

[@davidboyer4554]

@@yunjin3763 he's the bullshitatar, all this is fake and a waste of time, unless you like Bollywood, then he is on point, fake waste.

[@SadmimHossain]

Air bending :D

[@laraberliner1613]

Thank god I’m not the only one even though you were a little earlier

[@SleepyCinnamon]

Lara Berliner “A little”

[@J215J]

Worse airbending i have ever seen

[@thenerdyotaku7583]

I came here for the same reason lol

[@years8703]

Omg, yes

[@stevecastro1325]

How polite of him to stand frozen with his arm extended while the other LARPer executes gentle massage techniques

[@aaronconstantine1292]

😂🤣

[@assafshibolet4220]

O.k I was in a bit of a panic attack. Relaxed when I read the comments. This is a classic of what sometimes happens when the outside shell of the East is taken into the West. No understanding of time, No shame, no respect . Luckily there are enough people to point at the naked king.

[@lopezb]

Yup...sad.

[@davidmartinez9804]

he's like a bad beginner student who is somehow a master.

[@davidmartinez9804]

it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[@arc3075]

Agreed,IMAGINEER OF KUNG FU!!

[@noahbowes618]

The guy on the right maybe but not the guy on the left

[@davidmartinez9804]

@@noahbowes618 😂 What level is he on then?

[@davidboyer4554]

fake lace is a goofball, you should see his compound where he trains with little boys

[@finlaybeaton2124]

Just because you walk in a circle doesn't make what you do bagua. You are missing some fairly major points of the practice. You stepping lacks consistency, you are very stiff in your upper body and tend to finish you body movement before you arms. This has you losing the hollow chest position and losing connection often. I advise you spend a lot more time in standing practice and the basic movements before you give yourself the title Master

[@joj8097]

You teach me then

[@_RM10_]

Airbending master

[@Sandvichman.]

Thank you for your comment. I am new to Bagua, I did not know this was amateur style fighting. Because of you, I will not consume this misinformation, or use it as a guide.

[@user-pm5tm5mz2n]

@@Sandvichman. This is NOT amateur. This is a fine demonstration. Of course there are better ones but the guy on the left at least obviously has plenty of experience

[@cliftonthomas1500]

@@user-pm5tm5mz2n This is in no way remotely able to qualify as a beginner. It isn't good enough to be basic. In Bagua, there are 24 key points of motion and 12 key points of structure that must be adhered to according to Bagua classics. This shows none of them. It doesn't even hint at them. This is two untrained individuals pretending at Bagua. Circle walking alone is supposed to train 3 types of Jin at least in a fundemental setting. Like any craftsman, you can easily tell when it is right or wrong while an untrained observer is clueless what to look for. No student with any practical experience in Bagua would believe this is correct.

[@ukguy]

Two Bagua Masters... HAHAHAHAHA is this a joke?

[@davidmartinez9804]

if it is it's a very bad one :(

[@zerocoll20]

How Americans get tricked so easily?

[@Xdmfan02]

joao paulo andrade we don’t, this is bs

[@nossavida312]

This guy doesnt know when to stop. He is Bagua master now, after watching another movie he will be Xingyi quan master. Are his followers that dumb?

[@michalbukvai7548]

Paul actualy... lineage is not what makes you a master. Neither martial art nor anything else.

[@Diggy22]

1:27 "You're wiiiiide open! Do you know that, teacher?" --Jackie Chan, Drunken Master (1978)

[@johannkrebzs332]

i just watched that yesterday

[@Danny_Lopez_]

I'm trying to avoid this guy and yet he is messing up another Chinese system of kung-fu. Why?

[@davidbeauvais1364]

Kung Fu is BS get over it

[@houseofkungfu2543]

@@davidbeauvais1364 it only is because of white people like Jake Mace. And audiences like you who let it sly

[@RRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH]

@@davidbeauvais1364 ... its because you're watching these bad KZbinrs do it that you have formed this opinion..

[@davidboyer4554]

because beginners buy into to his fake crouching weasel, hidden bullshit.

[@wyzran]

@@RRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH you do have to remember, the Wudang school systems did not have their martial arts strictly for combat. They are mainly meant for health benefits. I find modern-day kung fu schools with sparring effective, however some include unnecessary steps to stop your opponent. Shaolin and other northern-styles of kung fu is what I would aim for, one being Tien Shan Pai

[@codegreenppp]

This guy mace is a joke, wing chug, hsing i, pa kua, you name it this guy knows it. He only perform forms poorly with no depth, no spirit.

[@d.j.finest5598]

STOP teaching Jake through your comments, he is obviously providing a poor service for a lot of disillusioned people. They and him will come out of this illusion when they get confronted in a real fight. Bottom line, Jake and company need REAL training ( Kua remained open, back misaligned, walk is wrong etc,etc.). I wonder how many of his (gullible) students applied these techniques in a real situation with positive results? Any comments?

[@Captain1Puppy]

I am sorry, but who are you anyway?

[@alonebysunset]

@@Captain1Puppy someone who knows Ba Gua I'm guessing

[@alonebysunset]

you certainly don't know me, but I've been doing Tae Kwon Do for about 11 years

[@edwardcespedes5222]

@@alonebysunset u should move on to a different martial art

[@alonebysunset]

@@edwardcespedes5222 LOL, I started when I was probably 10, what's wrong with it if I may ask? Edit: and by mentioning my age at the time of starting I meant I wouldn't know what you're referring to and I still don't, sorry if it came off wrong

[@jdhsingi]

2 bagua masters fight? no. Pa Kua combat? no.

[@rideforever]

The wrong kind of emptiness is being demonstrated.

[@TheMoodyedge]

rideforever I beg to differ, their heads are full of shit

[@99harshini]

What is the right kind?

[@Nofarewell]

@@99harshini , first, it doesn't have to be fast. Second, you can spot the conscious mind-body contact when practiced, and it has real effect on the other practitioner, not this tensed-up nonsense we are watching.

[@andrewgarratt5191]

Nofarewell “tensed up nonsense” I’m glad you said that,so I’ll know you’ll know what I mean: Im no fighter,no martial arts at all. But I have always been an avid fan of watching Chinese katas of most sorts... I learned long ago...some people can do a “kata” and it looks like flowing water,effortless and “gorgeous” for lack of a better word.. Others look wooden and tried. “Almost always Caucasians” My 2 questions: I’ve never bothered to learn a martial art because I’ve essentially been convinced that the Caucasian race is incapable of hitting that “non-tensed up” level Are Asians born with body’s that permit something the Caucasian race can’t achieve ? Or is it just that more often than not hacks like the guy above happen to be Caucasian? If you think that Caucasians can hit that level...do you think that 36 years old is too late to start?

[@Nofarewell]

@@andrewgarratt5191 , hi Andrew, thanks for your answer (and question!) I try to answer to it thoruoghly. Your insight is quite prompt especially considering you are not into martial arts yourself so far (in terms of direct experience). Apart from forms (or Katas), you should study real sparring too as forms, katas can be deceiving. What I mean is a form is just a form. Let me demonstrate this with a traditional example: there is a really good martial art, XingYi Quan (loosely translated: the fist of the form and the intent/mind) where Xing is form, Yi is intent/mind, Quan is fist, and/or fight, the way of fighting. If you study Xing, that can be beautiful, but without the Yi, which is mostly hidden, the internal martial aspect simply cannot be done - it's not a fluke that after many years, XingYi Quan was simplified by a master named Wang Xiangzhai back to YiQuan (left the form, Xing, it became the mind, intent fist; although it didn't change XingYi itself, it became (or returned?) another martial art). See what I mean? Form can be executed in a really appealing, eyecandy manner, but it doesn't mean it has any substance (yi, mind, intent) in it, which is mostly hidden (it is the beauty of it). After a while, if you experience real internal martial power, fa jin, you can distinguish more by watching it. "Tensed up nonsense", although in this video is very much evident, however not always can be seen, so hurrah for you again for spotting it! :) - it's always a fighting situation or real sparring when the internal aspect can really be seen - not just on the practitioner, but on the other person, who provides power in the first place, to which power the master responds; the effect of the force, the execution, the effect on the other guy gives you the answer. To the experienced eye, it can be spotted, even on the form. I advise you to look for the channel "The Martial Man" and look for masters like Adam Mizner, Sifu Sergio. These masters are really good and authentic (and caucasians too :) - which brings us to the second part. I don't think there is a universal answer to it (but yet there is) , but here's my 2 cents: Internal martial arts are one of the most fantastic gift to mankind. All of mankind. But it was given to a culture which has the most profound, complete, whole tradition: Taoism, the Ji King. The difference is not between us anthropologically as we are all equal children under the sun; it is between us traditionally, philosophically. So if you start to walk the way of oriental martial arts in their extended form, like you start to study the Ji King, you realize that Europe/USA has more Yang than Yin and traditionally China is more balanced. I think this last sentence gives you the answer of the "caucasian" question. I know, it's too long, I'd write much more though. I personally practice Tai Chi, 37 WU form and some Yang style and I know something about Xing Yi, Yiquan, Bagua too as I've been given the opportunity to learn from/practice with outstanding, fantastic people I proudly call Friends/Teachers. 36 years young? Try to find a nice place to train and start when ready. You'll have at least another 36 (I hope more) to perfect it. it's a life long journey. Write me if you need further info.

[@oldschoolgoodness4004]

You must learn your arts from internet videos.

[@davidboyer4554]

and his mind movies, weak and easily broken.

[@advogadodavidaguiar]

Very usefull martial art... against (very) old opponents, (very) drunk opponents or (very) stupid opponents.

[@pascal0868]

I love coming here just for the comments. It's like the song you hate but love to hear so you can enjoy the pleasure of venting. I guess Jake has figured out there's no such thing as bad publicity, only publicity. This is my second favourite site after the 'did you get your black belt from k mart" videos. That one actually makes me laugh.

[@jdub7771]

I thought shaolin do martial artists went away and with them their 1 form from every Kungfu style system. Stop exploiting the ignorance of people who actually would like to learn this. People please find a legitimate Baguazhang.... Better yet teacher in any Chinese martial arts style. This isn't one of them. Look up Shaolin Do organization's(cult) history.

[@JmariolinkJ]

jdub7771 Actually to Jake Mace's credit, according to Bullshido he helped take down Shaolin-Do in the West Coast. I just wish he followed that up by looking for an actual Sifu.

[@Master-AGN]

Bagua has the hips tucked under not butt sticking out. Go back and learn the basic please.

[@DakotaBusCaptures]

Yeah you have to have your back neutral and straight

[@nyhyl]

Bagua MASTERS? Come on, be a little more humble.

[@RRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH]

this shouldn't even be called bagua, this is called charlatan style lol

[@TheEnneagram]

It's embarrassing to watch this - I was unable to finish it. I'm trying to think of something useful to write here. Perhaps it must be to caution those who are truly interested in learning the internal martial arts against working with charlatans, even well-intentioned ones. But how is one to discriminate? When working in person, real teachers can demonstrate applications against your will - that is to say that they don't need your cooperation to function. In this case, these guys are "allowing" the move to be applied against them, which would never happen in a real fight. There is plenty more to say on the subject, and perhaps others will reply to this thread with other suggestions on how to discriminate between the real and the unreal...

[@facuale32]

That's not baguazhang . The movements are not correct and there is no flow , the opposite hard move like a robot. And if both are " teachers " should show real applications, not slow them

[@TomSteelers]

+TheEnneagram he's charlatan and clawn

[@ZeroMalarki]

Tai chi is sweet and all for meditation, but this stuff is retarded for actual fights. Why the hell would you spin around, expose the back of your head to palm strike someone in the balls?

[@johnj1027]

this is not meant to be taichi., but bagua, and its a terrible representation of that. I practice bagua, I have fought with it, and seen others fight with it.

[@zadkiel242]

John Juliano Do you have any videos of it? I saw a video back in the 90s, and it was basically slap fighting. I'm hoping it is more than that.

[@RM-lu2of]

Honestly years late of course but after studying Ba Gua Zhang for about 3 years and seeing that I applaud them attempting to apply it to combat most just focus on the internal system which is ok to but it's very fun but very limited in practice but still applicable. I found myself locking in key lock holds out of palm changes fairly easily.

[@aaronconstantine1292]

Y is it limited

[@RM-lu2of]

@@aaronconstantine1292 because the practice is done in a none combative way. So if you want to apply the art that way the normal practice of can have you feeling a bit unprepared or overwhelmed by more combative styles like boxing, muay Thai, or even sumo. But with time you can do it

[@_camy_]

@@RM-lu2ofKyokushin and Goju ryu practitioners like myself would absolutely wreck these guys lol we also focus on mind and body, and can do a ton of the same things, but we train heavy combative as well

[@RM-lu2of]

@@_camy_ most likely. But it comes down to the 2 competitors.

[@gbody2617]

​@@_camy_- I don't care about martial arts. It's all artistic garbage. I like all forms of wrestling and boxing and the only directions a kick could go and I like elbows and knees and chokes and breaks so where are you Hard-Soft (sounds like a porn guy who can't keep it up)/Kyokushin so I could make a spectacle out of you?

[@dragonknight8020]

I keep trying to avoid this guy, yet he keeps popping up when I look into things. Frustrating is the only kind word I have for it.

[@nikolausklinger489]

It doesnt matter which style you google, He ist always a master in it😁

[@dragonknight8020]

@@nikolausklinger489 naturally, of course

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

"There is an option in KZbin to not recomend you stuff from an specific channel, but not even that can save you from Kung Fu & Taichi Cent-" "Noo, don't say it's name! *it hears.* You just doomed us all!!"

[@theartoftaijiliving637]

so now you are a Baqua Master too. A master of internet marketing maybe ,but that's about it .Good God what happened to a standard of skills .

[@davidboyer4554]

They are still alive, only in ever dwindling numbers.

[@davidboyer4554]

they were abolished by fake waste and his weakness training crew.

[@PuhiPureBloOdYT]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMFG THIS SHIT IS SOOOO FUNNY I HAVENT LAUGHED LIKE THIS IS AAAAGES .. OMG AND THE TITLE SAYS 'MASTERS?? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM GONNA HAVE A LAUGH ABOUT THIS ONE FOR A WHILE .. THANK YOU JAKE THIS IS THE FUNNIEST ONE YET KEEP UP THE GOD WORK!!! LMFAO😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@PuhiPureBloOdYT]

GOOD^^

[@howdytio7956]

...still waiting for the masters to pop up...

[@thetruthspeaker5101]

I could probably beat these guys with my “takenoshit” Kung-Fu style from the Bronx providence of NYC lmao 😂.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Lol "Takenoshit" but without the T ("Takenoshi" which could sound just like "Takenouchi") is an actual martial art, Takenouchi-Ryu with it's full name being "Hinoshita Torite Kaisan Takenouchi-ryū (日下 捕手 開山 竹内流)" I sure though that you were talking about that art and almost died when i realized what you were really saying

[@fernandoreta4084]

1:21 WTF HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA

[@FelinePaints]

Oh ok so Jake is a master of this too… cool. Just normally normally it takes 20 years or so to become a master of just one style. My Master would probably tell this master that his mud walking needs work (feet closer together when stepping, leads with the toes on the forward thrust mainly) and his Roc Spreads wings is really really wide

[@shawn6669]

You 2 are Bagua "Masters"? That's truly hilarious. Good luck fleecin' the rubes, I guess. Masters! ROFLMAO!!!

[@stellartoad]

Ikr

[@jaredtimme5851]

So I take it neither of them have ever been in a fight?

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

True lol

[@RealKungFu]

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[@Liquidcadmus]

This is nonsense. jake mace is a dancer and nothing more.

[@heribertosuarezandrade9953]

That's amazing airbending

[@michaelj.mccall6530]

Interesting... any videos of the technique actually being used? There’s a huge difference between a demonstration where your opponent LETS you complete the movement and a fight where someone’s actually trying to stop you.

[@CyanideSublime]

I wouldn't suggest using it IRL.

[@illiJomusic]

Jake has been filming in B.C. Canada Hope to run into this con artist. 👊

[@davidfannin7187]

I read critical comments It is none of your business what other people call you. You become what you practice. The circle is unending as is your internal and external transformation. Practice for an hour and you have walked 10560 feet or more. You practice slowly because the body can move faster than the mind. Just because you are skilled does not mean an unskilled person is going to do what you expect. Have you seen someone who has practiced for 50 years being old and tired? One lady veteran practiced Tai Chi with an artificial heart strapped to her back in her practice uniform. Another teacher had pancreatic cancer and taught until he couldn't. It's not always what you practice it's how you practice.

[@arc3075]

bagua ia a guerilla style combat art. These may be traditional applications,but appear too complex. keeping it simple truly reveals its awesomeness.

[@davidboyer4554]

close but , fake face is just a poser, he has absolutely no real knowledge, or courage apparently, constantly moving and hiding and ducking all comers, fake face the new face of losers and morally corrupt greed.

[@karlbuchanan1363]

Thank you fellas

[@Nofarewell]

You are more tense than an iron rod, dude.

[@RandAlthor939]

This is strange it's almost an alternate reality .. this is not fighting application this is still a demonstration. . Or even a form but with two people. . It's very surreal watching this guy.

[@karlcrawford]

All you people check out a demo I did in 2009 .Althoughnthe form needs work I can only demonstrate in person. I started training in Sydney's Belmore Pk in 1995. I return there every now and then but if tai chi ba gua people would like to meet and maybe have lunch afterwards. What I find at this stage of my practice is that when I can relax and let go the more energy there is. Of coarse I invit people to try and push me over when I go into a stance but this is only to demonstrate what regular cultivation of chi can achieve. it's funny but when I first started with my sift InthoughtbI knew it all. But now I realise I

[@AbduCola]

I'm thinking about taking up jujitsu. What's your guy's advice on that? Anyone have experience and know if it's a solid Martial Art?

[@davidboyer4554]

anything as long as you don't take any words of this major joker seriously.

[@TaiChiMantis-Shifu]

Interesting some of those I would never guessed

[@robgibson7412]

Being a practitioner is not the same as being a master. Keep practicing-maybe find a master. Bagua has much more to offer

[@crashout86]

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH my good!

[@kristinparish2834]

awesome!

[@davidboyer4554]

not bagua , but pretty broke back bollywood dancing for sure, not even martial.

[@jesuriah]

First form, "I will give them my back so I can hit them using my weakest muscles at an awkward angle"

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Haha

[@stevenmackenzie59]

For a man to call himself master is just obsurd. One you are way to young Jake Mace to even think of calling yourself a master. It is just disrespectful for a man to give himself this title. It is not something you are given it is something that is earned something that you become.

[@davidboyer4554]

@D L he clearly has not studied baguazhang in any form or lineage. Clearly. He studies bollywood dancing and miming look it up. I am a 20 year practitioner of Yin Style Baguazhang, that is who I am to judge. This is bollywood, not Bagua.

[@robbiereilly]

That spot looks exactly like a place near me in western Tokyo. Cheers.

[@quanjiahao87]

This does not carry any essence of the fighting techniques of bagua zhang. First of all the real application of these "techniques" should automatically off balance any one from the initial contact utlizing the concepts of big circle and small circle. They also have incorrect spinal alignment, the body is stiff as a rock. There is no change going on pretty much just a performance. You can't fight anyone being that stiff. much less continue practicing the right way being that stiff.

[@davidboyer4554]

this is not bagua its fake gape coming together with his training stallion to touch and separate and touch again, very broke back mountain, no?

[@Omagatsuhi]

Seen the Chinese baguazhang grand master and masters demos, their movements are extremely fluid compared to these two who appear stiff.

[@localdruglord]

So how do I use the air scooter?

[@shoto520]

Jake Paul wants to learn this for his MMA debut

[@davidboyer4554]

ha ha ha, he should learn from a wet paper sack before he learns from this clown.

[@jumildador9118]

as far as i know,its very delicate to face your back into your opponent ( 0:32 ) the other guy's (wearing black shirt) right hand is able to punch Jake's nape even Jake can hit the other guy's stomach.Just my opinion dont take it srsly

[@davidboyer4554]

this is all b.s. there is nothing real about it, bollywood, spurious, not real. He is a greedy little pig.

[@johnnivek9653]

Quick question. How many martial arts has this guy claimed to be a master of at this point?

[@davidboyer4554]

all of them.

[@anthonylong9067]

I need to learn some of this. Im a 4th degree black belt in bok fu do. We have a few techniques which implement some bagua in it. It's a little hard for me but it'll get better soon

[@anthonylong9067]

PadMAD3k actually, for mine, we have belts. It's mostly chinese based with some japanese style infused in it. Maybe you should, i dont know, show some respect for people. Try it. I've been doing this for 13 yrs.

[@anthonylong9067]

PadMAD3k good guess. But no dice. Wing chun looks fun. I plan on learning that at some point down the road. "Try what?" I mean try being respectful.

[@anthonylong9067]

PadMAD3k well this school that i go to does. We've been around since 1969. If you wish to spread the truth, be more humble about it.

[@anthonylong9067]

PadMAD3k well be thankful i dont do that shaolindo stuff. You call yourself humble yet you decide to talk trash about my martial arts school in your first comment?

[@anthonylong9067]

PadMAD3k well since this video was the first (and so far, only) video i saw of him.... Also, i forgive you. I dont let that stuff affect me. Especially on the internet

[@akiranyo]

I have no diplom in any martial art, but if I would fight those two "masters" they would be taken away on stretchers.

[@ShifuCareaga]

I believe I can shed some light on this topic. I came from the same system as Jake, but a different lineage entirely. Unfortunately Jake is too far into training to start from ground 0, and yet the forms are not right, not quite right. For myself I long ago began supplementing my SD with experts like Jerry Alan Johnson or John Painter, Rudy Cury, etc... and learned how it really moves. I moved away from SD naturally while Jake only split because of politics and money, etc.. so essentially still SD. That's why it comes off "wooden" or "not quite right". It isn't that he's a bad teacher, he's actually damn good compared to his teachers. Frankly, he's become master-like in his pursuit. However, to call it a Master Combat is not correct, and obviously going to lead to criticisms. My recommendation is to spend less time making the body look perfect and make the form look perfect. It's worth the exercise in breaking the external mold. I can see the fluid movement beneath, and the intense concentration. With some real mud stepping and genuine fluidity this could be better. And don't call yourself a Master, that's the inheritance of the old Shaolin Do title grabbing. You're above that now if you can step out of the mould. I hope that provides some clarity. People should be nicer to Jake, he wanted to get out of a bad situation and got sued and won and he's got a great looking school and good vibes. Unfortunately that isn't the Tao itself. I hope he finds the secret of how the Chinese moved - and Sin The is a bad example, bro.

[@shawn6669]

+Shifu Careaga Sifu Rudy is fine but Painter and JAJ aren't much better than SD. Better to just drop all that stuff altogether and put your energy into searching out someone who really knows what they're doing like the Luo De Xiu lineage or the He Jin Bao lineage or the Wang Peisheng YCGF lineage or the Gao Ji Wu stuff that Tom Bisio teaches. It's really not that hard to search out nowadays and the skills of just some dude as opposed to someone who's both talented and knows what they're doing are not even the same thing. I mean if you want to waste your time it's your time but you'd serve yourself much better with the real deal. FWIW.

[@ShifuCareaga]

Oh I agree, all the people I look at are beyond those guys or Bruce Francis et al... I am only mentioning the past. Thanks for writing :)

[@davidboyer4554]

HIs body does not look perfect as he exhibits none of the bagua body characteristics or basics, good sticking up for your man, but this is not bagua it is movement art at best, it isn't even martial. NOthing about this guy is master, There is no master , there is no best , only better. So money, money, money, poor little fake mace, money, money, money. Where is the Ba Gua? People should be whoevet they want to be, not who you want them to be, stop this poser, do what is right, he wastes time and detracts from real practitioners. Are you getting kick backs from face lace? He made his bed, let him sleep in it.Mudstepping does not make you doing bagauzhang.

[@MikeHenrick1]

O Dear. i truly hope this doesn't put someone off martial arts.

[@jimmybutch6998]

I DO NOT ASK THIS QUESTION OUT OF ANY DISRESPECT, LETS BE CLEAR ON THAT PLEASE! The header title says "BaGua Masters fight Bagua Combat" May I ask Master Mace, how long did you have to train to reach the rank of MASTER? I'm in my late 40's and I'm Just Wondering How Long it would take me (Approximate, with an average student) Because I have heard that it can take Very VERY, Long in the Internal arts. God Bless, and I'll wait for your Reply and Guidance. Thank you

[@davidboyer4554]

there is no time line for development. Every person is different, this fake gape guy is a blister on all martial arts and should just say he teaches shadow dancing or something.

[@jahac18]

Which masters? What fighting?

[@ZuCo91SrBiJa]

Can someboy tell me what kind of medication they are using!? xD

[@lanasmrdotdotdot1050]

are you allowed to use moves like these in sanda?

[@LOSTNFOUND223]

This is how @InternalChineseBoxing thinks he performs 😂

[@ThePardalboarder]

One word: SHAME.

[@lalatendudas3910]

Jake mace knows the every martial art form weather it is exists or not, 😂

[@davidboyer4554]

his new name is fake gapes.

[@spladam3845]

Even when the dude on the left is waiting for the slow punch to come, he's still slow on the "block". You are not going to catch someone's arm when they trow a lead arm jab, that jab is going to come instantly. For an internal art that is suppose to value efficiency, there sure is a lot of wasted movement.

[@davidboyer4554]

fakie gayce is weak and has no structure.

[@BennyBigIron]

0:54 first of all you should be grabbing the arm that’s punching you immediately after you parry it, secondly I would make that slap to the abdomen into a back fist (or a chop if you prefer open hand), lastly REALLY plant your feat when you drop them over your hips in that last motion. Other than that great technique, I’m always glad to learn a new way to defend against a punch!

[@davidboyer4554]

both of you are wrong, but I won't give any more information to fake waste.

[@BennyBigIron]

@@davidboyer4554 ok?

[@potterheadno.1438]

How Long Do You make kung fu now ??

[@santiagobenavidez9993]

0:54 ese golpe no llega 1:09 nadie se queda con el brazo extendido 2:36 me encantó esa aplicación

[@ElbarboTVballoon]

help!!! a fake. big lol

[@oxygentank00]

Hahaha as if your opponent must wait what you will do to him next.

[@aaronsteele2832]

I'm not that familiar with Bagua but isn't there supposed to be lots more controlling of the opponent's arms and restricting movement and less half assed Tai Chi?

[@davidboyer4554]

you are not seeing baguazhang in this video, this is a dance video from nineties MTV, called this is how you make yourself weak.

[@RRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH]

Jake Mace... a "bagua master"? cmon y'all there are so many better representations of bagua online.

[@teflon_dom3295]

I'd love to fight either one lol

[@davidboyer4554]

You will have to get in a long, long, long, long, long line.

[@pedridemperi9872]

Synchronicity brought me here in my search for being in Tao

[@serenatsukino744]

Like aang, thanks guys!

[@TaoOfKungFu]

So much fun getting to visit, train and film this last weekend!

[@RealKungFu]

Great to see you and train with you!!! ;)

[@kevbri11]

+Shunga Munga best troll i've ever seen even likes his own comment

[@davidboyer4554]

Why so you could be part of the problem, oh well I am sure you are making money off it, so you are still happy, Greedy little pigs.

[@sanakaichi]

I think that just to have a look on curve of back for man in blue is ok to understand total body structure brake

[@Pendragon667]

Be water my friend: just flow away.

[@MrRafalee]

“ Jake the Fake, “ as some call him trained under “ Grandmaster “ Sin Kwan “ The under the label of “ Shaolindo. “ Then there was the law suit that happened between Jake and Sin The before Jake ever visited the Shaolin Temple. 🤷‍♂️🧐

[@forteami7720]

Have your sifu ever told you, don't face your back to the enemy!....

[@deecyp64]

Why do all these fighting techniques always look like they only work when the other one willingly falls to the ground?

[@davidboyer4554]

because they are. This is not Baguazhang this is fake gape doing shadow dancing, with his boyfriend.

[@fredrikforsberg8819]

its all fine and dandy until you meet someone who punch a left right combo. how can you sleep at night?

[@TheRenegadeMonk]

I'm really sick of seeing kungfu people doing prearranged drills under the label of fighting or sparring. SHOW US A REAL FREE SPARRING MATCH WHERE YOU USE YOUR ART! You play into the stereotypes of your detractors by failing to display any competence in such a fundamental element of martial arts. Putting up a good fight and loosing would make you look better than you do showing pretty resistance free drills of questionable efficacy, nevermind mislabelling them as fighting.

[@wongfeihong56]

Dude this guy is fake anyway.

[@vitocapobianco8782]

+TheRenegadeMonk Jake the Fake doesn't practice kung fu. Much less is he a master of bagua or tai chi. Everyone of his videos has a click baity title and really bad techniques. The guest in this video has his own channel, in the one video I watched he locks his elbow with every punch. That's a really basic no-no that will result in a over-extended elbow and the inability to use that arm for some time.

[@johnj1027]

there is no bagua here. And as a student of bagua myself, I can say, yes we practice free sparring. My sifu at some point soon wants to take us to a local mma gym to get some real practice in actually.

[@RRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH]

yeah never let Jake represent anything for you, never never never. He's the worst of the worst internet fake

[@MAXMANUSMANOFWAR]

Clickbait number 27 for the p4p #1 Bullshido king Jake Mace

[@1ststater611]

Jake was planning his escape

[@rating9392]

This seems to want to be self defense butis shit. Didnt recognize Jack Mace at first but at the end when i saw his name it all made sense.

[@martonbalassa8128]

These "masters" will be surprised when they get into a real fight. Or COMBAT :D

[@aaronconstantine1292]

Ya

[@kaszapnagypeter]

1:28 looks like Jim carrey moves in Ace ventura movie.🤣🤣🤣

[@davidboyer4554]

Jim Carrey at least had skill; this dancing bozo is a waste of space.

[@micjakes1]

Wish there was a Bagua, Aikido, Shaolin, Wing Chun, and TaiChi fighter in the MMA.

[@davidboyer4554]

don't worry fake waste will train you , he is the master of all martial arts.

[@peironepablo]

none of those martial arts can stand proffessional mma

[@ninjapocketch]

Pa Kua master!! Mort de rire..

[@shirfugurman885]

Thank you for presenting Pa kua to the world, I wish the master part was not an essence of your need. Please consider if your low back is not the the store position with a lumbar curve evident then down force in your throws are mechanistic and not effortless. The angle of the arms never have a forward arched back... upper or lower... After 39 years of Pa kua and a direct lineage from Tung, Yin, Gong Bao Tien, Lui yun Chao, I can say my students are the master and i the student...

[@SwordTune]

This channel is a joke for martial arts. Shouldn't expect anything more.

[@davidboyer4554]

this is not baguazhang, this is bollywood bullshit, formless, structureless, devoid of any real internal power or structure, the stepping is wrong, the arm positions are wrong, this is a fake piece of mierda.

[@ericknudten7272]

A bagua master with his shoulder and hips mis-aligned. I wonder how far he can project his chi?

[@lafocaz3033]

Ojala alguien pueda traducir esto. Es una pena que, siendo los profesores y maestros del kung fu alrededor del mundo los encargados de difundir este arte que amamos, haya gente que no solo lo use con fines de lucro, si no que ademas manche el nombre de los estilos que no conocen pero pretenden enseñar. Esto no es Ba Gua Zhang, la joya interna de los 8 trigramas, esto es el invento inspirado en videos de un instructor que no respeta lo que hace ni lo que dice amar. Una pena. Generalmente tengo este canal como una diversion, ya que las tecnicas no son aplicables y los estilos no tienen buenos fundamentos, pero con Ba Gua se toco una fibra sensible, un estilo tan profundo reducido a esta mimica burlona. THIS MAN IS A FAKE

[@davidboyer4554]

exactamente Senor.

[@leneelse3328]

I will learn what all four elements hate based off of and became the avatar

[@kylesheets5663]

That was awesome! I always wondered what fighting with Ba Gua would look like.

[@RealKungFu]

Yes! Thanks for watching Kyle!

[@davidboyer4554]

this is not bagua, this is two posers dancing a bollywood routine. fake face is not a bagua teacher , he isn't even a student.

[@boonyboodboon5139]

Can I make serious a request. Is it possible to see some footage of you under open pressure Mr Mace?? Light sparring or some drills in which shows that your "fight application" videos are coming from someone can who display his skillet under pressure. Other wise, what your doing is dangerous to those you teach , remove the fight application part to your videos and highly emphasize to your viewers you are a martial artist and not a fighter.

[@AriUgwu]

Just a friendly note that I think this video is a joke or perhaps a skit? That’s not bugua and those aren’t masters.

[@resilientkid]

I'm a fan of the music