2 Church Goers First Time Reaction to George Carlin Religion is Bull - WILL GOD STRIKE HIM DEAD?! 🤔

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[@krw73]

And someone who grew up Irish Catholic and am now an atheist, I can definitely tell you that he's not mocking spirituality, he's clearly mocking religion as an organized institution that has abused its influence over thousands of years.

[@tragicdeyz2641]

If it makes you feel better about Mr. Carlin to believe that, that's fine. I'm also an atheist and yes George is slamming churches here but also God and the whole concept of anything beyond death.

[@krw73]

@@tragicdeyz2641 I get that. And believe me I agree. I only referenced that distinction because of what he said in the video about spirituality.

[@barsandbarbells2022]

We think he was doing both because he referenced God as a whole & seemingly lumped it all in together for the bit. As we pointed out in the video, we agree organized religion is something completely different than spirituality and it has been used to gain power & influence for the wrong reasons.

[@hartspot009]

Well, you do have to think about the "man in the sky looking down" theory. But yes, his aim was primarily at organized religion...which, by definition is a cult. I am spiritual and believe in a divine source, whether you call it God, Bruce, Linda etc. It is, imho, a core need for inner growth. Love your discussion and opinions!

[@JP200]

He only mocked 'organized religion' in the bit about god always needing money. The rest was a direct attack on core Christian doctrine (concept of hell, the ten commandments, the logic behind prayer, etc). It's quite a standard defense strategy for believers to respond: Oh, it's only an attack on the church, not on (my) religion itself 😏

[@notmyname4261]

That looked painful for both of you. There is a way out of the cult and listening to people like George is a good first step.

[@spaceman5734]

yep

[@AutomaticDuck300]

It's not necessarily a cult. I still believe there is a God and it does help with guidance. I think a lot of the Bible is allegorical, but there is some good wisdom in there.

[@janpersson9818]

@@AutomaticDuck300 I have read the Bible cover to cover once and suffice to say I don't agree with the last part of your statement.

[@KentuckyBrad]

@@AutomaticDuck300 they are parts that are allegorical or symbolic, but the Bible is mostly historical becuase these events really happened

[@derekhorlock1976]

He tells the truth 💯

[@riffgroove]

My favorite quote. "My friend, I contend that we are both atheists. I simply believe in one fewer God than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other Gods but one, you will then understand why I also dismiss yours."

[@IASP17]

I heard something similar before. great line.

[@chetcarman3530]

Ricky Gervais

[@riffgroove]

@@chetcarman3530 He may have used it, but he didn't come up with it.

[@jeremybr2020]

I've been hearing that quote for quite some time. I used to like it. That is until you think about it. Then you will find that it makes no sense. The reason a theists doesn't believe in other religions is because the religion they do believe in tells them that they have the one true religion and that all other religions are wrong. This is obviously not the reason that atheists don't believe in religious claims. There are many good atheists quotes. You should pick a new favorite.

[@riffgroove]

@jeremybr2020 No, it makes perfect sense. You need to look at it from the point of the theist. They believe their religion is the "One true" religion, which is exactly what any adherent of any other religion would believe. The reasons a Catholic has for disregarding Buddhism are the exact same reasons a Buddhist disregards Catholicism. An atheist simply doesn't make any particular distinction between the two of them.

[@damonbryan7232]

This is a great conversation starter. Carlin was the master at pointing out hypocrisy an authoritarian concepts

[@marcusmuse4787]

so according to george carlin "More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason." but he's actually wrong according to encyclopedia of wars of 1,763 wars in human history only 7% were religious in nature the other 93% were all secular.

[@Jubes83]

Watching religious people comfort themselves by saying george is just joking and it's just comedy is almost as funny as the bit itself. He's very much not joking. Watching your faces contort as you're internally trying to fight the air tight logic is very entertaining. 😂

[@gill8779]

I got the impression that they might think God wouldn't approve of them watching George lol.

[@marcusmuse4787]

so according to george carlin "More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason." but he's actually wrong according to encyclopedia of wars of 1,763 wars in human history only 7% were religious in nature the other 93% were all secular.

[@YankeeDoodle2]

​@cobusb8373 George was wrong

[@DanielReyna-zx8ec]

Dude y'all are taking this too personal. He's been Dead since 2008 alright, I'm not saying that anybody in the comments are being sensitive about what he's saying but if you are being sensitive about this then y'all need to relax it's not that serious and it's not going to affect you in any way shape or form, chill the hell out. This is another reason why people can't enjoy comedy like they used to anymore

[@ultimategamer2669]

@@YankeeDoodle2 He wasn't.

[@dblaska]

George was the master of making you think with comedy. He was a wordsmith philosopher

[@justarandomniggafrm206]

Ya

[@christianwolf68]

so were his parents. his mother encouraged him, as did the school he attended. we have very, very, very, few parents like that anymore, and NOOOOO more schools like that at all

[@bobwait3629]

"I don't pretend to know." The problem is, a lot of people like to impose their not-knowing on others.

[@peterf08]

This is 100%, especially children in schools This is my problem

[@will-ellington]

An inconvenient truth for sure.

[@jurd3641]

The reason religious people get offended when you try to debate their religion, is that it makes them uncomfortable because they have no logical answers.

[@breveth]

It's called cognitive dissonance. Their mind is incapable of challenging their beliefs it's caused by indoctrination.

[@christianwolf68]

because religion and religious doesn't require critical thinking like life does. they just require blind obedience and followers. guess what Jim Jones had followers to. lets ask them how it turned out for them. we cant because they are all fucking dead. thank you religion

[@ajstyles5704]

What? Is that something to be proud of? You not accepting their answers? It is illogical, what were you expecting, a math solution that even Einstein can't figure out? Religion that has abused their people the most, is Christianity, we heard so many complains over and over and over, and literally, sometimes I even wonder, are Atheist that smart? I looked myself in the mirror and I started to wonder, what the hell makes me different than believers? If I shoot someone, get caught, serve time, but if I'm a believer, I shoot someone, get caught, serve time in this world and in the next world. It comes to the question, what if I don't get caught? Religion maybe a stupid thing, but it is necessary for normal people who can't act on normal moral situations. Look at US, you think they need god or Atheism the most?

[@pchopp]

amen

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Thor, son of god is stronger than Jesus.

[@Bjy001]

Trouble is... this is not "just a joke". It is a serious critique made humorous.

[@redplanet9162]

That's what I was thinking. It was wrong the way he talked about the routine like it only reflected people's moods at that moment in time. No. This is not just jokes, it is truth. I am glad these two church goers are bravely facing it

[@christianwolf68]

as Carlin himself said he began to write essays. so he became a writer who performed his own material

[@chetcarman3530]

"I don't understand science, so there must be a god."

[@buttthecat1354]

Yes, " therefore god ", is a favorite saying from people like them.

[@XxRQuirkTigers]

More accurate it's the god they were raised to believe in that's real and everybody else is wrong...

[@nicolebailey4426]

I'm sorry but science has helped us. I speak from a nursing background. Try prayer with someone in cardiac arrest. Took a while of studies science will save your life CPR heart monitoring and the medical team will be able read what is going on. Depending on your heart rhythm your monitor on the crash cart will shock your heart to beat. You are intubated hook up to respiratory ventilator. Labs are drawn and you need life saving medications. Some one recording this . Your body specifically your brain can't function without oxygen and glucose for 6 minutes. Sure we pray that everything is done to resuscitate the patient. I can understand this, but I have trouble reading remembering the Bible. I believe in God as the Creator, but it's up to man to solve their problems

[@chetcarman3530]

@@nicolebailey4426 um... who are you talking to?

[@nicolebailey4426]

@@chetcarman3530 I am posting to you or to anyone who has a question

[@twofarg0ne763]

I spent 7 years in Catholic school. Like George, at the age of reason (16), I too became an atheist. In college I had several classes (Philosophy Major) in world religions and found that most religions are fundamentally the same... it's the people who decide to become the "interpreters" of whatever sacred text are the problem. They twist and cherry pick whatever fits "their" ideas and throw the rest out the window. Organized religion is a business, plain and simple. It's there to control people and pull in money.

[@PunguinYoga]

That's pretty much it.

[@bryondavis2173]

The more I've read the Bible the further away from the propaganda I see myself pushing away. I spent many 50+ years in the Baptist faith and one thing I've realized is depending on what part of the world you live in will dictate what religion you follow . It could be the ju ju on top of a mountain . Millions of people lived and died without ever hearing about whatever god you believe in and I just don't see everyone that hasn't ever heard of them being cast down with the sodomites . Have you ever noticed many get " religion " and just go thru the motions just to blend in ?...guarantee you that you've met one this week

[@christianwolf68]

and if you examine Christianity, you will see that it takes from every other religion that existed at the time. if the Christians of today, August 23 2024 wanted to live more according to the religious belief that Jesus had, they would be reading and following the Torah, not the bible

[@alanfoster6589]

A reporter once asked Gandhi if he would ever consider becoming a Christian. To the surprise of all the reporters present, Gandhi answered, "Yes." "What would it take for you to become one?", the reporter then asked. Gandhi answered, "If I ever met one".

[@chesteradams7423]

Ghandi was also an asshole, who when he wife got sick, would not allow her to take medicine to get better, but when he got sick he took medicine to get better.

[@RMForbes505]

Carlin grew up Catholic and went to Catholic School. He did a great comedy album called Class Clown in the early 70's about his experiences in school.

[@buttthecat1354]

George was born in to the C of E. The mother later converted to Catholic and took george with her.

[@oldmanjimh3165]

Hard to believe George has been gone 15 years already.

[@bert0522]

Me too, he'd have a hey day with this country today. Jim

[@daveburbridge9807]

Yes he's in hell

[@MrGrifft]

@@daveburbridge9807 Citation needed.

[@daveburbridge9807]

@@MrGrifft your right to Be an atheist. More room For me in heaven.

[@MrGrifft]

​@@daveburbridge9807 Impressive... worse sentence structure than the bible. What's even more impressive is that your heaven fantasy is limited in capacity.

[@jerrywalters8885]

His set on the 10 commandments can't be missed. Very good points are made

[@LadyIarConnacht]

Still, would we want any of our kids breaking them every five minutes? And we definitely love them. Hell and all that crap isn't very biblical at all.

[@mjdaniel8710]

Bringing uncomfortable truths and making it funny, he was the best

[@justarandomniggafrm206]

❤

[@scottcampbell5605]

Rid the world of religion and we'll have a better world.

[@LadyIarConnacht]

So, all the atheistic communist torturers that have run the world will build a better place than those who tell you to be good people and care about each other? Sure.

[@tonycardone990]

This is going to be a Carlin type rant. As an athiest who grew up in a mostly religious Christian family, the more people around me tried to explain religion in a logical way as a child, the more I realized they had no clue how logic works. I'm also autistic so logic is what I always fall back on, provable facts make more sense than stories that constantly change depending on the situation and, reasons for things being are just because. One of the main questions I always ask someone who is trying to convince me of a God is, Why is abortion not OK? This question works even better if the person has ever miscarried. The answer I get over 95% of the time is that God wouldn't allow someone to get pregnant if the baby was not meant to be born. I then follow up with, What about babies that are killed after they are born in a car accident or something? Most of the time I get, Because God had a better purpose for them so he took them. Next question is, what about miscarriages? If God wanted the baby to be born why would he kill it before it was even born? Again I usually get the better higher purpose answer. Next I say, So if God wants the baby he will do whatever it takes to kill the baby such as an auto accident, falling off a bed, being murdered by another human, etc. To which I get a Yes. Then I hit them with the question nobody can answer. Why is abortion bad? God obviously wanted that baby and asked you to send it to him right? And what I usually get in response is, That's not how it works! Don't be stupid. Occasionally I just get, Only God can answer that. When someone can make sense of a simple question like that, I will consider believing. And not with circular logic. And as an athiest I don't not believe in a creator of some sort. I just don't have any evidence of one at this moment other than stuff written by humans that makes no sense and constantly changes. And that is nothing to base changing your way of thinking and living for. Also if we were created by this perfect being, then I being an autistic, athiest must be what he wanted, so why question what must be exactly as it is supposed to be, or try to get nonbelievers to believe? I say if believing farfetched stories helps you deal with living by giving you something to blame your imperfections on and a reason to improve yourself due to fear of going to hell, believe away. I myself know people are all imperfect including myself and I don't need to be controlled by fear to want to improve myself. I take responsibility for me.

[@thorketil1671]

Also the Bible basically condones(d) abortion Numbers 5:11-31. Well, at least priestly prescribed ones.

[@boboboy8189]

i will answer for you why abortion is bad. there's differences between fetus who died because of abortions vs baby died because his time is out. that fetus won't be answer to God but the person who kill the fetus will be asked why she kills the baby. and if she said because this body belong to me, God will said i lend that body to you. you didn't create yourself, none of human capable to create their own body while they still in fetus. dead by natural cause, God won't asked the mom about what happened because that the baby fate. before baby given life, God asked the soul first about about life expectancy will be at that point and if the soul agree, god Will reset that memory as a test so we can be born tested until we be revived again in hereafter, our memory will be returned back as early as God ask our soul

[@xander.357]

​@boboboy8189 there is no god to answer to. Stop living in fantasy land and believing in boogy men in the sky. Seriously it is embarrassing for the while human race that grow adults still believe in this shit when there is not a single shred of measurable evidence to support their claim.

[@dupersuper1938]

@@boboboy8189 It's interesting that you think you know the vetting process for the afterlife in such detail, and I'm sure you're not just pulling all of that out of your ass.

[@dupersuper1938]

@@Jorpando But do you believe it is the right of you or the state to impose that view on pregnant women?

[@cartguy1000]

I can relate to the prayer issue. When I left religion, and quit praying, nothing changed.

[@daedalron]

In fact there was a scientific study about the efficiency of prayer, and it showed prayer has an effect, if you know people are praying for you. The study showed that sick (religious) patients, when they believe people are praying for them, tend to heal SLOWER than if they believe no one is praying for them. Also, what mattered was whether they believed people were praying for them. Whether it was true or not didn't affect the result.

[@PeterProf7777]

He is not focusing on something that is greater than you. He is focusing on man's version of what God is which is someone who judges harshly who is cruel and intolerant and wants to punish you forever if you break the rules but he gives you free will and loves you. He is saying that God is made in the image of man which is unfortunate. He is not joking. If you think he is joking, then you don't understand George Carlin.

[@veganlion4328]

As he aged his frustration became greater and his stand up reflected it. The tone of his comedy changed as he did which is authentic.

[@3lfprinc3ss]

i've always been in awe of how george so eloquently distinguishes spirituality and personal beliefs from organized religion. you gotta think of the time period he was in, and how the government quite often used the bible as leverage to sway public belief in certain ways (abortion is just one of the issues that first pops into my mind--if you've noticed how modern anti-abortion arguments in comparison to just 20 years ago, almost completely avoid the religious talking point in mainstream media, because most people these days advocate more for a separation of church and state). i've always believed that george hyper-fixated on religion so much BECAUSE he understood how dangerous organized religion can be in terms of cult-like behavior and mindless obedience.

[@hifijohn]

He makes a good point without the sun we wouldn't be here.

[@heathgreen9275]

Think for a minute! Your own to something!! God's only SUN rises daily in a crown of thorns ( sunrays). Carlin was clever how he mentioned it but didn't push it! Christianity is based on sun worship. The light of the world. Our rising savior. Research this

[@ASelfishIgnorantCitizen]

@@heathgreen9275 Given the context, it's certainly the inference Carlin intended with the pun, hence the sardonic laughter that followed, "I can SEE the sun [but not the Christian god's son]".

[@richardjones4662]

The bible said god made the earth and the trees before the Sun. Just imagine that for a second.

[@jaytroyer8590]

I am encouraged to see you challenge yourselves with people such as George Carlin. I seriously believe that Jesus would have had a first row seat for this performance, and would have enjoyed himself immensely.

[@okeythegoat2332]

😂ofc

[@KevinRCarr]

And, of course, the more uncomfortable people are made by his performance, the funnier it gets. I enjoy all of your reactions, but this one the most. I suspect that you may also struggle with other of his later years routines, such as his thoughts on the death penalty and abortion and the sanctity of life, and rights and security and germs, etc.. And, I am looking forward to watching y'all figure out what to think of it all. In the end here, he absolutely succeeded with this routine, I mean; look at how deep you both reached in order to discuss it, while I got to enjoy both him and y'all. That's a win all around.

[@barsandbarbells2022]

Glad you enjoyed it! We enjoyed the conversation ourselves too!

[@alleyeditor]

To each their own. We need more people with that attitude. No one has come back from the dead to say hey this is what happens so help people don't hurt them.

[@paulbrown8823]

He has never missed an argument or logic by intelligent humans! Seems you have.

[@98armstead]

they were smacked in the face with the truth and they chose to ignore it. typical.

[@Z-one1000]

According to Carlin, he was catholic until he reached the "age of reason".

[@edcor2578]

Mark Twain said Religion began when the first con artist met the first fool. It's easier to fool people, than trying to convince them that they are being fooled.

[@joeyt.]

George spoke about his upbringing in a Catholic School with Nuns in his youth so he definitely has an education in Religion.

[@davidtullis2810]

In an interview he said his job was to take you to the edge and slowly lean you over enough to make you think

[@thesecretjewishspacelaser9959]

Apparently Joe Pesci was in the audience that night.

[@DrDuke509]

I’m exhausted by how much effort he had to do to mentally manipulate her and his audience out of the uncomfortable reality this video put them in.

[@donaldbrunner6250]

You should check out his bit on the 10 commandments. In another bit he says he was Catholic until he reached the age of reason

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

I really wish he thought to mention the Egyptian 42 Negative Confessions, and the similarity to the 10 Commandments. 1- I have not committed sin 2- I have not committed robbery with violence 3- I have not stolen 4- I have not slain men and women 5- I have not stolen food 6- I have not swindled offerings 7- I have not stolen from God 8- I have not told lies 9- I have not carried away food 10- I have not cursed 11- I have not closed my ears to truth 12- I have not committed adultery 13- I have not made anyone cry 14- I have not felt sorrow without reason 15- I have not assaulted anyone 16- I am not deceitful 17- I have not stolen anyone’s land 18- I have not been an eavesdropper 19- I have not falsely accused anyone 20- I have not been angry without reason 21- I have not seduced anyone’s wife 22- I have not polluted myself 23- I have not terrorized anyone 24- I have not disobeyed the law 25- I have not been excessively angry 26- I have not cursed God 27- I have not behaved with violence 28- I have not caused disruption of peace 29- I have not acted hastily or without thought 30- I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern 31- I have not exaggerated my words when speaking 32- I have not worked evil 33- I have not used evil thoughts, words or deeds 34- I have not polluted the water 35- I have not spoken angrily or arrogantly 36- I have not cursed anyone in thought, word or deed 37- I have not placed myself on a pedestal 38- I have not stolen that which belongs to God 39- I have not stolen from or disrespected the deceased 40- I have not taken food from a child 41- I have not acted with insolence 42- I have not destroyed property belonging to God Although many of these could be condensed into a smaller general list or are already mentioned in similar context within the 10 commandments, there are a few such as I have not polluted the water, I have not acted with insolence, I have not exaggerated my words while speaking and I have not terrorized anyone( I could have extended this further, but I find it unnecessary, as some are quite obvious) could do society some good.

[@Clovka]

I really enjoyed watching these two get extremely uncomfortable! 10/10 reaction

[@GazBC4U]

😂😂

[@GazBC4U]

It's fear.

[@coot1925]

There's nothing quite like organised religion to turn one into an atheist.

[@Lucoryphus_VIII]

Yes indeed

[@Lufsixq]

Reading the bible straight though without skipping will do it, it did for me at 27 when I read it. Nothing like seeing the 1st of many contradictions in Gen I.

[@dupersuper1938]

@@Lufsixq Yeah: I've never been able to get through it. I wish I could read it like any other mythological story such as The Iliad but every time I get to a bit where it's giving instructions on how to treat your slaves or some other vile passage, the knowledge that a huge amount of the modern population of the world take this book seriously - even hold it up as a moral guide - makes me want to laugh...or cry...or vomit.

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

@@dupersuper1938 Even the Mahabharata reads easier than the bible, and the names in that book are tricky to pronounce.

[@PunguinYoga]

@@Lufsixq Yes, it seems some of the Old Testament prophets REALLY hated women.

[@-Knife-]

This man is one of the goats of comedy. Modern day philosopher who makes fun of everything.

[@epicurhyss4014]

I think the point y'all are missing is that he actually didn't rule out the possibility that "something" could be out there, whatever it might be or however indifferent it is He's just calling bs on the mythology/legend trappings of the Bible, and the gloss/spin that people want to make up of an all loving, all wise, all powerful entity, which is not what you find when you tale an honest look around. And don't say it's people causing all of that when you consider natural consider disasters, childhood cancer and other diseases, that some animals must violently predate on other animals just for survival, and that the Bible actually endorses stonings, putting to death nonbelievers, and slavery. And don't invoke Jesus because he never directly said a word in opposition to any of that. And please do your homework first, any of you who would try to claim the Bible doesn't endorse what I mentioned.

[@chesteradams7423]

"He's just calling bs on the mythology/legend trappings of the Bible, and the gloss/spin that people want to make up of an all loving, all wise, all powerful entity, which is not what you find when you tale an honest look around" Exactly. The supposed all loving God who will punish you for eternity if you don't kiss his ass lol.

[@AudiophileTubes]

Carlin is RIGHT!

[@justarandomniggafrm206]

😂

[@okeythegoat2332]

Facts

[@tarjeidavidsen7611]

One of the best lessons you specifically could take from George Carlin is how to say as much as possible with the least amount of words.

[@Samurai_Stoner]

I grew up catholic, and about 12 years ago i went through rehab, and became Buddhist and for me it was the best decision i ever made

[@theborderlinegiant]

Buddhists don't believe in any gods do they?

[@KathrynLiz1]

If nothing else, he makes you think and points out some of the absurdities of most religions...

[@Mike-rk8px]

Joe Pesci was a close friend of George’s for decades, and he was in the audience at this show, which is why George made a joke at his expense.

[@profanepersonality]

I have been clinically dead twice. There is no god, heaven, or hell.

[@armadildo6468]

Damn. Im glad you're still here. Ive always been afraid of death. Im an atheist so i dont worry about hell or anything im just worried and sad about "the long sleep". i like living. I love life. Knowing itll all end at any moment and to never see my daughter or spouse again breaks my heart every time. 💔 lots of love to you

[@Idkexactly]

​@@armadildo6468 finally some atheist fear death Idk why most of atheists like to pretend they dont fear it, they count it as a weakness in the realm of "not beleiving", its totally normal to fear it even if you are an atheist you are still a fucking human.....i dont fear it most of the time but from time to time, i really have a panic attacks from the horror of death. Its just normal

[@will-ellington]

@@armadildo6468 Yep, space dust is our future. Nothing to do, except live live live. And by live, what I really mean is to make as many meaningful interventions in the stream of everyday life as possible. When I'm with people that I have great affection for, I sometimes (only when appropriate) try to create something together. Whatever form it takes.

[@shadowsrose4978]

When i left Christianity I reasoned like this. If there is a god and it is as claimed all loving, then it would not care if I believed it existed, only that I lived a good life. Thus I strive to be a good person and live a good life. As it is the only life I am guaranteed to have.

[@justarandomniggafrm206]

I seen demonic spirits with my own eyes 👁️ I seen evil before and I believe there's a after life. I believe there's a real hell and If I die I will be not on earth. What I think George Carlin is speaking is philosophy.

[@okeythegoat2332]

Religion is bs, fake and Jesus didn’t die for our sins. wtf is even a sin anyway

[@dianedarby442]

I think there is a definite difference between religion (man-made to rule the masses) and spirituality (your own relationship with a higher power) and that this routine calls out the issues with religion in that sense. PS I'm a big Joe Pesci fan, too! lol

[@barsandbarbells2022]

Agreed!

[@JP200]

Spirituality = Superstition: "Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself."

[@buttthecat1354]

@@JP200 hilarious when people say " i am not religious, i am spiritual". Same thing. Both are man made constructs, designed to keep weak people in line.

[@dianedarby442]

@@JP200 lol . . . could be, never met anyone who truly knows.

[@dianedarby442]

@@buttthecat1354 not at all. spirituality doesn't necessarily mean a god - it could be the universe, it is whatever you reach for strength and comfort.

[@surfeit5910]

Your next movie night should be "Dogma". You can thank me later :)

[@jurd3641]

Carlin volunteered to play the bishop for free

[@pudermcgavin4462]

Been atheist since I was young about 10yrs old it was before I saw this standup! But it made me confirm my idea! He's a brilliant wordsmith but puts a lot of thought into it! And I agree with him on religion 100 percent!

[@jeanninelockridge5235]

Same here

[@boboboy8189]

you guys need to listen to Dr Zakir naik, most of atheist grew up as christian which is relying on faith but forgot about logic and science.

[@cathyaldridge4550]

But you DO pretend to know guys. Your believe in a higher power. That means you do think you know. As a life long atheist who was not raised in any religion, I think that the very idea that there is a god is preposterous. I can say that "to each there own" is fine until the leaders of nations use god as a stick to make laws that affect other people negatively. That is mainly why atheists are so vocal against religion and belief in god. It is holding us back.

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

As a non-Christian who believes in the divine, I see this as huge problem. Christians on the far right really need to imagine what it would be like if any other belief system tried to break the boundaries of church and state. I would never in my wildest dreams wish that my Pagan beliefs, no matter how highly I think of them be pushed onto those who are unwilling.

[@gill8779]

I am so thankful that I was not brought up to be religious. I was watching a video of a terminally ill person & the amount of comments telling the person they would be saved if they prayed to Jesus was unbelievable. Worst of all were the ones saying she would go to hell if she didn't repent her sins!!!. I am European but most of the comments were from Americans, it shocked me how most of those people really believed this. I can't imagine living a life with that mindset.

[@BlGGESTBROTHER]

Imagine having to live in a country full of these goobers 🤣 Luckily religion seems to be in steep decline in America as well.

[@sassylittleprophet]

As someone who *was* raised Christian but no longer believes, the mindset is kind-of insane. I was taught that everyone automatically deserved to go to hell and be tortured forever for existing as a human (they would say for sinning and/or not believing, but basically not being perfect is enough to send someone to hell). As a result, everything is so dire. When you think that everyone is going to this place of horrible eternal torment, after believing yourself so you don't go there, all you can do is try to warn people. You feel obligated to, and it is heavily implied if not outright stated that if people who could've believed die and go to hell if you had the opportunity to warn them and didn't, their blood is on your hands. The thing about growing up Christian is you are terrified *constantly.* You live in terror -- if not terror that you will go to hell, then terror that everyone else will, and it will be your fault because you didn't warn them. And if you have social anxiety and are afraid to talk to people in general, well sucks to be you...if you care about people going to hell at all, you better get over that.

[@gill8779]

@@sassylittleprophet How awful for you! I assume you are American maybe southern? I am In England & now at 66 I only know one religious person who actually goes to church & she would never dream of trying to turn you into a believer. In fact her children have all grown up & also left the church. Indoctrination is a terrible thing, I am so glad you are now living a life without fear.

[@sassylittleprophet]

@gill8779 American yes, I was actually raised in California, then my family moved to the Midwest. I was also homeschooled my entire life, and that curriculum was from Texas (which taught that God created the world, nothing about evolution except that it was wrong, that Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee [confederate generals during the Civil War] were godly men, that the Civil War had a factor of slavery but ultimately was about states' rights, and had a separate subject specifically for Bible study). So...a lot of yikes.

[@PunguinYoga]

@@gill8779 Indoctrination truly is terrible. I think it's a form of abuse to force a supernatural view of the world on children.

[@johntsan742]

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” I live life by the Golden Rules. You don't have to be religious to live by those words. Love both of your reactions. Keep up the good works.

[@gkiferonhs]

You guys did a good job. It is hard to dispassionately review things that contain attacks on some of your ideas. Good work!! I did a deep dive into all the various world religions for a couple of years and found that they all contain one main idea: Living is hard; help each other.

[@barsandbarbells2022]

Thanks! We knew this one was likely going to create some havoc & we debated even posting it but we believe in civil dialogue that's beneficial for all! Agreed on your last sentence as well!

[@km666]

I would argue the main idea that they share is "we're right, everyone else is wrong".

[@MrRagston]

​@km666 Naw, lot of religions out there aren't like that, but those religions don't advertise to you like they are a business who wants your money.

[@km666]

@MrRagston Nope. Every single religion on the planet claims to be the one true religion for the one true god. There are even denominations of the same religion that don't agree and claim that they have the correct interpretation.

[@benjaminroe311ify]

@@km666 technically incorrect. Many smaller religions and many even more mainstream ones around the world don't believe in "one true god" and are accepting of other beliefs.

[@QUANTUM_QCD]

Watching the subdued smiling discomfort on both of your faces was fun. I've seen other reactors to this and some of them are just laughing uncontrollably - those damn heathens 🤣

[@gkiferonhs]

Man always invents the God he needs. We all have our unique deities.

[@stobe187]

Utter nonsense.

[@markgallemore8856]

George carlin was raised Irish Catholic did his album class clown released 1972. The topic of religion is in his routine.

[@Erulin68]

George Carlin wasn't a comedian who said profound things, he was a philosopher who happened to be very, very funny.

[@sangfroideur]

George is not anti religion nor does he have a disdain. He ìs critical of the teaching of religion by man and the resulting perception and illusion it creates among many of us. Clergymen are the voice for spirituality and peace which is often lacking or non existant in their discours. Love and hope.

[@DJDOGG31]

It’s funny,thought provoking, and honest. Religion has abused it’s power and if we really examine the beliefs that they preach about you can see how they overlook things to benefit their own materialistic needs.

[@neb-taui-djeser1060]

17:35 ? we didn't appear or popped into this perfect world. both, we and the world evolved & thrived in millions and millions of years. There was a lot of trial end error.

[@sickwidit7562]

Trial and error, trial doesn't end error

[@DrTramp-uu1hh]

Like George once I gained the ability to think independently I too realized that organized religion was a bullshit scam. When I first heard him speak on this topic I was amazed at how well he was able to articulate my very thoughts and feelings. He was a philosopher but I think he realized that get people to pay attention to what he had to say he had to put it in the context of humor.

[@thorleif8872]

There is one thing about religion that I never understood. For example Christianity, there is ONE book, written almost 2000 years ago (the new testment at least) and people take this single book as proof that their is a god and their religion is the "true one". There is no other proof than this old book, filled with fairytales and some historic stuff. If I go with this logic I could say that there is a half-giant on a flying bike like in the Harry Potter books.

[@davidav8orpflanz561]

"The more educated you become, the further from God you get" - seen on a Church's sign: Keep learning people, that's the correct direction to go!

[@mikedavis4851]

The more educated you get you get closer to GOD.😊

[@davidav8orpflanz561]

@mikedavis4851 like reading this: KJV Bible, ISAIAH 45:7, God brags, "I CREATED...EVIL", probably on the 8th Day, a Monday, after thinking about what else the world really needs to make it completed after a day of rest, by a Loving, caring, benevolent, fatherly guy, eh! No thank you, we call that kind of closer to God - "LOVE", EMOTIONAL ABUSE AND MENTAL CRUELTY now, that we can say it now, outloud without God's followers burning us at the stake for heresy or blasphemy! Because, there is no love greater than "CHRISTIAN" hate towards the educated and thinkers in the world! Read, and learn about how Galileo was so loved by the Church, due to his discovery and educating people!

[@intensetornado]

There are very few cultural subjects that George Carlin didn't make some folks uncomfortable with his comical spin on it. He had the special talent of making people laugh AND think.

[@richardpieroux6290]

I had read the new testament by age 14, was a choirboy at the time, then read the old testament by age 16 and the Koran (English translation) by age 20. Those experiences were what turned me against religions in general as they are all divisive and think they are the only true path to God. I still give thanks to God every night for what has happened in my life during the day but never ask for anything. To me, God is the go(o)d in the individual and the (d)evil is the bad side that tries to interfere.

[@chesteradams7423]

"To me, God is the go(o)d in the individual and the (d)evil is the bad side that tries to interfere." And neither of those two exist.

[@richardjones4662]

When you read the bible, god killed a lot more people than satan and/or the devil did. Sort of makes you wonder if there are any "good guys" in the bible.

[@ricardotoussain]

Evil is a myth invented by the religious. In a world where every effect has a cause that is observable evil has no place. People don't kill other people because some of their family died in an earthquake or tsunami. They kill other people because their family was killed by their people believing it was their god given right. And religions and the religious hold grudges like no other. So in a sense I do agree with your view but I did want to make that distiction.

[@TheBlodstrupmo1]

I love seeing reality hit peoples faces 😅 the defensive rant to a comedy skit sais it all.

[@G-Denz]

Defensive? It's called having a different opinion. And just because it's a ''comedy skit'' doesn't mean that you can't judge it or having your opinion on it. Carlin actually believed what he said. He's not saying it just because of comedy. So that's not an excuse. Anyone can judge it based on their belief and opinion. And by the way i consider myself an atheist and a Carlin fan. But if someone thinks different it doesn't mean they're defensive or delusional. If you think that then you act the same as the people who judge your beliefs. And in the end noone knows the truth. We're all just assuming stuff.

[@TheBlodstrupmo1]

@@G-Denz defensive, yea. it's a difference between having an opinion and pausing midways to rant about how he's wrong, that it's not funny, but understands it is a joke, etc. kind of kills the mood for the rest of the clip. very noticeable.

[@buttthecat1354]

@@TheBlodstrupmo1 he stopped almost immediately to spew his nonsense.

[@PatrickPlaysRetro]

The coping is strong lol he makes a point about Carlin indirectly bringing up the idea of being the kings of the planet and thinking we're the most Important beings in the universe and how he's being ignorant for dismissing the idea of a higher power, then literally seconds later dismisses UFO talk as "nonsense" isn't that doing the exact same thing? lol you're dismissing the idea of UFO's/higher life forms by believing you're more important so it can't be true lol The trying to dismiss it by it being an older clip is hilarious too lol I still liked the video though, that's the point of a reaction video, it's an honest reaction even if the person has a different opinion.

[@wpl8275]

A philosophical treatise in the form of performance art with a comedic bent. Just the word play alone is genius. Carlin is the Picasso of comedy.

[@dorarie3167]

The problem might be that you describe our world as perfect system, as if everything has been created exactly for us to develop and thrive. This is known as the puddle analogy in which a puddle wakes up one day to find itself in a hole, and it says “This is a fine hole because it fits me perfectly”. However, it’s merely the puddle’s interpretation of the hole and why it exists. The world and universe are not perfect for humans at all. Radiation, stars dying, asteroids, extreme temperatures, natural disasters that can kill millions, water- and air-borne diseases, genetic conditions, climate change, salt water covering mist of the planet, drought, flooding, inherited diseases and conditions…the list goes on. You may look at your comfortable life in 2023 and think all is well, but many people live poor or desperate lives, have poor health, suffer from a lack if clean drinking water (and die from it), and so forth. It makes more sense to think we adapted to this planet and our environment.

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

I believe in Gods and Goddesses, but more so go to the Family Guy cutaway where they showed God farting to represent the big bang. So, if you were to for example use the Freemason's idea of grand architect who created the entire universe basically sent everything into a random course from the start it makes sense in that context. Also, it aligns with what George and many deist freemasons believe as well, " Doesn't give a shit".

[@Gilbarwaters]

I respect you both for actually watching it with an open mind and giving your opinion about it. I know some people would not want to continue watching at a certain point. As a non believer myself, I do respect those who believe because most of my family are Christians and I have no right to try to take that away from them or anyone who believes. It wasn’t easy for me when I was a teenager, to start questioning about religion and the existence of God. It was a slow process that ended up taking me to decide I was not going to go back to church (for many many reasons) but formed a different perception of God. So to me God is everywhere, is Mother Nature itself, the rain, the sun, the air, the water. I created awareness and became knowledgeable and grateful for all of these things. But I do not believe in the God religion indoctrinated me to believe in. Because to me, it doesn’t exists. Also, I just can’t have a man in front of me telling me "This is the word of God" at his convenience or from his own interpretation of what he reads on that book. Which I believe it was created by men to control people. I believe we all have the answers within to overcome suffering and difficult times but that requires self awareness and that’s why Buddhism has helped me tremendously. I do not agree with Buddhism as a religion, but I take the teachings I need to be able to understand myself and get to know myself. That’s one of the problems I see with religion, it’s all about "pray and leave it to God" and how long does that last? Yes, it may make you feel better but then you fall back again and you pray again and so on. So what I say to people who believe in God and pray and struggle again and again… Do you think God did not give you all the tools for you to figure things out? The ability to solve your problems on your own? Why do you keep asking him to guide you and get you out of the struggles you’re going through? Why do you keep waiting for a sign from God? You have the answers. Look deeply within and you’ll find them.

[@thedude7554]

Watching believers struggle when confronted with reality is always entertaining.......

[@WoodstockG54]

I'm a meditator and believe in universal consciousness "God". And George is bang on with his perspective of religion.

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

I'm Pagan and can see quite the connection between organized religion. Pagan's have a tendency of being much less organized than the Abrahamic trio, with the exception of Sabats and other rituals, otherwise many are solo practitioners. Sun Worship goes along with Pagan beliefs as well. The connection obviously being Solar Deities. Every pantheon has several solar gods and goddesses. I would perhaps say that George had some Pagan ideas based on his sun worship comments, but it's hard to say for sure.

[@tnightwolf]

George is just so good and such a great Human above anything else!

[@dvsreed]

George started his career as a comic but he became a philosopher. He used his humor to challenge believes and ideas and to make his audience actually think while they are laughing. We could really use him in the world today. I would love to hear him rip into Trump and the whole debacle that is Fox news.

[@cyrusaalborg]

Love to se light bulbs turning on on peoples heads watching George Carlin ,God bless him 😂😂 on more serious note watch :Christopher Hitchens 2009 Does the god of Christianity exist vs 4 Christians

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

"Dogma" stars George Carlin, Matt Damon, Selma Hyak, Chris Rock, Jay and Silent Bob, Alan Rickman, Ben Affleck..... It's worth a watch!

[@zacharyhumphries1707]

I was a Christian basically until I heard this bit at around the age of 14. Carlin makes so many good points which I couldn't logically refute, and I lost the faith. Here it is almost 30 years later and his points still hold up and can't really be refuted. It's basic logic and I try very much to avoid believing things which fly in the face of the rational. I get believing in say... Santa Clause because it makes ya feel better but still... fictional things/beliefs are exactly that.

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

The way I think about Santa Claus is that he does exist, but it is not what we are told. Santa Claus is every single child under the age of x's parents.

[@brucelovell1346]

17:32 - "It's hard for me to derive the conclusion that we came from little single celled organisms into this perfect system that we're in." LOL. Bro, you and I have *completely* different concepts of perfection........

[@brom00]

Some of Carlin's best routines are on religion. It's mot like it comes from nowhere, he grew up Roman Catholic. I'd suggest hid routine om the ten commandments.

[@ParkerAllen2]

Actually, we're far less religious now as a society than we were when Carlin recorded this - the religiously unaffiliated is the fastest growing segment of our society. The reason the audience is enthusiastic is because it's a George Carlin audience. Very few Amish were in attendance.

[@Doggeslife]

It's not just what George says but also his method of delivery. The man has (had) a talent. I miss him.

[@markadams7046]

The thing about comedians who make political and social commentary is that it is often difficult to know when they are trying to make a serious point and when they are just going strictly for the joke.

[@AudioVile]

I have always loved watching how uncomfortable this routine makes people. People generally don't much enjoy hearing their core belief system challenged... let alone be trashed. Listen to the audience reaction to THIS routine, and then compare it to the gleeful response to his other routines. The "laughter" in this is guarded, subdued, and mostly out of politeness. If you watched your own reactions while you were editing, I suspect you might have noticed that YOU two were a bit uncomfortable at times. Perfectly natural, AND very normal and common. You mentioned the obvious disdain he holds for religion. It is very similar to the disdain with which fervently religious people demonstrate toward "those heathens." One thing people hate even more than having their belief system attacked... is hearing things that make them feel even a LITTLE bit hypocritical. You have obviously heard the old rule about not talking about money, politics, or religion. There is wisdom in that. This was a very daring selection for a reaction. I applaud your 'guts.' I think you two are great! Oh.... I am agnostic, so take my comments with that grain of salt.

[@richardjones4662]

I was not guarded in my reaction. After I read the bible cover to cover (around 15-16), I too became an atheist. I wonder how many "believers" have never read the bible? My opinion is most of them have only read pieces of the bible (or heard pieces of the bible at church). One thing you'll rarely hear at church is the more evil parts of the bible.

[@AudioVile]

@@richardjones4662 I agree. I call it 'selective religious wisdom." 😊

[@dannygmtg]

@@richardjones4662I always preferred the works of Tolkien.

[@robgelfand2414]

Here is the first time I heard George Carlin talk about his religion - it was on is Class Clown album that was released in 1972. These are the side 2 tracks about religion "I Used to Be Irish Catholic" - 2:57 "The Confessional" - 4:12 "Special Dispensation - Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Limbo" - 3:41 "Heavy Mysteries" - 1:59 Although the entire album his hysterical.

[@hmohns7035]

LOL :) You just can't say he was right :) Peace and Love from Canada eh :) sorry :)

[@P3rm4frost]

Religious people should seperate Religion from their own belief.

[@deewonders6959]

I am a spiritual “God” believer, but not religious. RIP George 🕊

[@boboboy8189]

he will straight to hell unless he believe the one true God

[@shroomso4430]

@@boboboy8189 There is no god thankfully.

[@dupersuper1938]

@@boboboy8189 C'thulu?

[@Tbone.357]

​@@boboboy8189 therein lies the "rub".... Which one of the thousands of gods that have been around since man has been walking upright?

[@randyfergus8781]

This piece is much more applicable today with all the evangelicals who have pretty much shored up the MAGA foundation. I think his ire is more with the structure of the churches themselves. So much of the world problems can be traced to, when you get to the core, differences between religions and the rigidity toward each other. They all seem to have lost sight of who each of their Gods are and their actual teachings. I really enjoyed your discussion at the end. While my philosophy is more a loosely defined Deism, I have no problem with anybody else's foundation as long as they allow me the room to follow mine. As the old saying goes, Your right to swing your fist ends just short of the tip of my nose.

[@mikedavis4851]

I think maybe our founding fathers look at the middle east and else where in the world.Seperation of Church and State Works Really Well.😮😊

[@DrRatweasel]

He was not joking.

[@jessicablack9960]

You can tell they didn’t want to look like it affected them but you could see the pain and disgust behind the fake smiles and forced laughs at George Carlin’s jokes.

[@jimmychin9666]

Carlin dealt with a lot of taboo subjects, and that's ok.

[@barsandbarbells2022]

Yep, it sure is.

[@ibstrummin2]

George with straight up facts!

[@Lord_Baphomet_]

There is a problem with debating with religious people. How can you have a debate where two people have completely different understandings of what truth means. Religious people constantly talk about “Their Truth” and atheists talk about “The Truth”. You can tear down every religion with logic, point out inconsistencies, point out contradictions, point out misinterpretations, show them data, show them peer reviewed data, take them to look at fossils… it doesn’t matter… what it boils down to is very simple, after you have destroyed their reasoning they will tell you (More or Less) “I believe, because I have a personal relationship with (insert deity)”… religious people are so wired to have faith and to not need evidence, that when you show them the evidence they act like it’s not real... or the devil is testing them…

[@micky6j]

it's always hard to debate someone with stockholm syndrome

[@zebedeedoodaah6454]

Ooooh......., This was my favourite reaction from you guys!. Absolutely fascinating!. George fulfilled his role faithfully to great affect -we are challenged to think and discuss. Watching you guys squirm was pure Gold!.🤣 Interesting how you disclosed your view on the ET's so off-hand too!.😁 I think you guys are great people. I also think you would gain a whole new following by joining in the amazing conversations currently escalating about our human origins. Thankyou for your posts, Thankyou George,and God bless Joe Pesci!.👍 Zebedee from Oz.👍

[@CarySkelton-ws2vz]

His breakdown of the Ten Commandments is spot on

[@vapatsfan6174]

I grew up Catholic and while I still carry a strong sense of faith, moral beliefs etc. I no longer feel the need to be a part of a formal church setting. I feel like I can communicate with God no matter where I am. I don't need to confess my shortcomings to another human being. I have a direct line to the only forgiveness that matters. Formal religion has become too much of a business and it feels like faith comes second to the business. Just my feelings.

[@radioactivetrees9626]

can you demonstrate that its not just in your head?

[@AutomaticDuck300]

Yeah, it's definitely manipulated too much.

[@mikedavis4851]

Amen.😢😊

[@DanielDehoyos-sm2ed]

I am no political party. No religion. No favor of race. I am Christian!!!

[@Bipolarcloud]

The universal answer is we were given free will. 😂

[@granfall00n]

I don’t understand. He is a comedian but you still have to refute his points if you are going to believe in the ridiculous edifice of education. Why does this routine not make you think?

[@vikhaedan]

My thoughts exactly..

[@buttthecat1354]

Wow, they really butchered this reaction. They went in offended and critical.

[@jamesellis701]

It did me, it got me to look into it and I found satisfactory answers to all his objections, and all his objections were answered back then but I guess he never wanted to really know the answers

[@Reno_Slim]

​@@jamesellis701 Yours is just conformation that one can use post hoc rationalization to shore up any bad belief. That's what people do when they don't have the desire or ability to distinguish between imaginary things and real things.

[@jamesellis701]

@@Reno_Slim so, you admit you are not looking for answers

[@oldschoolgamer-w4u]

Sun Worshippers are actually real. It is one of the Natural / Neo-Pagan religions set

[@AmandineClaireDubois]

You have to think about where the idea all started. Consider all the Equinox and Solstice alignments of megalithic structures. The placement alone shows that sun worship has very early roots, as it celebrates the various degrees of the throughout the year. I would label this as Sun worship as pre-Pagan in the sense of the old religions that much of the details were lost to time.

[@giuseppesavaglio8136]

"He's speaking from the idea of a human being" right there is the religious idea in a nutshell. You got close there. Nice review and reflection.😁

[@jordanmeija7384]

You keep saying religion....but less than one tenth of one percent of all religions or churches or denominations are actually true to the scipture that they claim to believe in...religion is the problem not spiritual belief in the divine....man made rules and Pagan rituals masqerading as something holy...very few will ever get it...just because there is wrong doesnt mean there is no right....just because spirituality is rare...doesnt mean it does not exist...