2-Gun Match: Enfield Jungle Carbine & Martini-Henry

[@georgebarkemeyer2003]

Showing up to a match like this with a martini-henry is a way bigger flex than showing up with a $5000 dollar ar-15 setup. "That's about $100 dollars worth of ammo" Daaaamn...

[@mikecampos1193]

That means every shot should count.

[@genericpersonx333]

In fairness, it only costs six bucks a shot for the first shot. After that, the cost of the brass goes down as you divide the number of times you shoot it by the price of purchase. Four dollars for the brass becomes two dollars for the second shot becomes a buck-thirty-three for the third shot becomes a buck for the fourth shot. You should easily get twenty shots out of the brass without worry and more if you are careful to inspect it for fatigue. I find the powder and lead for bullets ends up costing more over the long term because you really don't get to recycle those as much as you'd like. :)

[@datasailor8132]

@@genericpersonx333 in that case I hope that they policed his brass.

[@genericpersonx333]

@@datasailor8132 Certainly wouldn't be hard to tell which is his!

[@datasailor8132]

@@genericpersonx333 True.

[@fishcars8078]

As someone who owns and makes ammo for a Martini - Henry I always cringe watching them in action. Not because I don't enjoy it, but because I always think "The time! The effort! The money!!! My god the money!!"

[@deedeeko9]

The old guns have to be used like this! This is how we learn. I thought it performed very good in this stress situation, and I learned a lot....want one now...

[@dickdastardly4236]

I would guess there's about five people out there helping him collect his brass after each run.

[@j.yossarian6852]

Has anybody made a modern repro of the action in an available calibre?

[@deedeeko9]

@@j.yossarian6852 a Ruger No1 is similar

[@brittakriep2938]

@@dickdastardly4236 : In Germany there are still a few target shooters using traditional german ,Schützenrifle'. Largest german target shooters organisation still has regulation for this, but for decades no more rifles had been produced, also ammunition 8,15 x 42 is no more produced, handloading is necessary.

[@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus9571]

For a left-handed, Ian works that Lee Enfield bolt very quickly. Quite impressive.

[@laveroflove]

Practice.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I am a left eye dominant shooter and fire from my left shoulder despite being right handed. My Dad had a Mk.3 and I could cycle that rifle very quickly. The challenge is keeping the thing vaguely aligned at the target while doing so. That wasn't so easy.

[@magoshighlands4074]

It doesn't just show his skill, but also hpw effective the Lee bolt system is, It's wonderfully smooth

[@JamsheedRpgGodBoss]

As an Enfield owner, Ian works that bolt beautifully for a lefty.

[@herbertgearing1702]

As a fellow southpaw let me assure you, the struggle is real. We will find a way, the sinister brotherhood always finds a way. I've said too much.

[@ragzaugustus]

Every time that Martini-Henry fires I just here Michael Caine scream "FIRE" over and over again.

[@noahcount7132]

The process (and cost) required for Tom to make the ammo for his vintage charcoal-burner is absolutely mind-boggling, and way too daunting for the vast majority of today's shooters to even consider, much less actually engage. Good on you, Tom!

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Hobbies are often expensive :-( If you a have a "cheap" one - I AM envious.

[@davidcox3076]

It's not so much reloading, he's undertaking an engineering project.

[@alexwalker2582]

@@davidcox3076 Right, because he had to cut the casing down to fit properly. Did he make his own bullets too or did he use a slightly smaller bullet with a sabot? I wasn't too clear on that part.

[@timtheskeptic1147]

He said he shoots paper swaged rounds, so, technically sabot? And holy cow, he's not kidding about how much it costs to feed a MH. It makes elephant guns look feasible.

[@demonprinces17]

Doesn't British muzzleloader reload for that?

[@herknorth8691]

You know your rifle ammo is rare when you decide to make the cases for it from the *much more common* 24 gauge shotshells that you've somehow acquired.

[@RayTX1337]

You only really appreciate how much better a semi automatic rifle is when you see the old rifles on the range.

[@bushcraftingmuslim]

Being an Aussie I really appreciate the difference optics would make on this sort of thing. 3-9 scope and a decent modern trigger would make a hell of a difference.

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Indeed - hell, those are guys who regularly shoot them (so better than the regular military conscript who sometimes basically saw a rifle the first time they showed him one during training and who sometimes got only very few rounds to practice with), so it would be way worse if you gave them to an untrained shooter :(

[@MravacKid]

@@dreamingflurry2729 I was in the military in '98-99, and only ever been to the range 3 times, once 6 rounds single-shot with 3 zeroing rounds and once (I think) 20 rounds burst fire with gas masks using an 50s-era AK-47, and once 6 rounds with 3 zeroing using an ERO (Croatian Uzi copy) so in total I fired just under 40 rounds. And all I can say is thank Mikhail Kalashnikov for well-made iron sights. :)

[@userJohnSmith]

@@MravacKid Jesus... I fired more than than in my JROTC marksman qualifications.

[@MravacKid]

@@userJohnSmith What can I say, Croatian conscript military of the late 90s wasn't the most well-funded. :)

[@ducktapepilot]

It's interesting how differently the smokeless and blackpowder guns sound. The .303 had more of a crack sound while the Martini was more of a loud "POOF" lol

[@jayhom5385]

Yeah. I have to say the slower burn of the black powder made a satisfying thoomp.

[@sleepy_Dragon]

The difference between an explosion (super sonic reaction) and a deflagration (sub sonic reaction).

[@cooper10182]

reminds me of my local hunting seasons where rifle season is 2 weeks before Christmas, sounds of various cracks from .25 caliber up to modern 45-70, then the week after New Year, black powder whumps of .50 to .75 caliber inlines and flintlocks.

[@grizwoldphantasia5005]

A friend and I were shooting a Civil War 1863 Springfield replica at a local home-grown range, taking our time, popping off at milk jugs and juice bottles, while a couple of old timers were running pistol drills. Every time we fired, got that big cloud of wonderful-smelling smoke and that BOOM-not-bang, they'd look over. Finally I went over and invited them to shoot it. "What caliber is that?" ".58" "Man it's gotta kick like a mule!" "Nope" and dragged one of them over, ran him through the loading drill, and he was absolutely amazed -- "It doesn't kick! It just pushes!" and then the other one had a go, hit a juice bottle 100 yards away, but was a little red-faced when he admitted he'd been aiming at one closer. Both had a good time. Introducing people to black powder makes me smile as much as them.

[@ducktapepilot]

@@grizwoldphantasia5005 I really enjoy black powder firearms! I've used them for hunting since I was a kid but always used more modern versions. A few months ago, I decided to buy a flintlock pistol just for the heck of it. It's really a lot of fun! Thinking about getting a flintlock rifle kit next :-)

[@TheWolf261]

As a British man who grew up watching Zulu seeing the Martini-Henry in action was a real treat. I have always wanted one. Thank you Ian and Tom for this opportunity!

[@morgs456]

Just so you are aware mate you can buy a martini Henry here in the UK without a licence

[@abysswalker2594]

@@morgs456 wait what

[@ogilkes1]

@@abysswalker2594 Antiwue firearm. Free to own as long as you don't shoot it. For that you need a black powder licence and all the kit!

[@morgs456]

@@abysswalker2594 section 48 mate. I got a mkiv like the one in the vid. Just buy it over the counter

[@abysswalker2594]

@@ogilkes1 well thanks

[@Deltaguy447]

A headshot with a Martini Henry is less a headshot and more a decapitation. Fine shooting, lads

[@WalkaCrookedLine]

The "U.S. M1 Garand web belt" was never officially called that and was not in fact designed for carrying M1 ammo. The original version was the "m1910 dismounted rifleman's belt" and was designed to carry 30-06 ammo for the 1903 Springfield rifle, 10 pockets each holding 2 5-round stripper clips. Between the wars the design was changed to the m1923 version which had minor improvements but was very similar. As the Garand rifle's design was being finalized the army considered ammo carriage options, found the Garand 8-round clips fit well in the old Springfield pockets and decided to save development costs by not designing a new piece of web gear. The m1923 belt was only manufactured in small numbers until 1941, some early war units were issued stockpiled m1910 belts. The belts worked fine for the M1 rifle, and troops liked them, the only issue was capacity -- 8 rounds per pocket instead of 10, and the semi-auto Garand burned through ammo faster than the bolt action Springfield anyway, so troops often carried extra ammo in bandoliers. The disposable cotton bandoliers were harder to quickly get ammo out of under combat conditions, so experienced troops learned to transfer ammo from the bandoliers to the belts in lulls between firefights. I believe the m1923 belt continued to be used in Korea. Ian mentions only carrying 1 clip per pocket in his belt. The British .303 clips ("chargers" in British terminology) are wider than Springfield clips due to the .303 cartridge being rimmed.

[@DETHMOKIL]

This is exactly the kind of comment I scroll down to see!

[@AndyViant]

Also, for those who don't know, the British method of measurement was different to the US method, so a 308 is 7.62 mm but the 303 is 7.92mm. The case width at the rim is 13.7mm or 0.54 of an inch compared to 12.0 or 0.47 of an inch. India created a lot of .410 shotguns out of surplus WWII .303's It's a far bigger round than many people realize.

[@DaveP326]

A lot of troops carried their "extra" ammo (no such thing - we used it all) in a 2nd canteen cover, gas mask bag, and even clipped to their rifle slings, as well as in bandoliers. We ran around with ammo cans, too, but they were heavy and unwieldy. That was not the preferred way to carry rifle ammo.

[@FrontSideBus]

All of Ian's trouble was down to the firearm gods looking down and frowning at the lack of cordite being burned :)

[@AndyViant]

and lack of sighting in at 100

[@jrstoelting]

This video makes me want to try to find a Martini-Henry. "Smells fantastic" one of my favorite things about black powder

[@recoilrob324]

That fellow did a fine job considering the TINY sights on the MH. I have a pair of them from the Nepal Cache and really do love them. Got Jamison brass for them many years ago and use a hybrid 425 cast and lubed projectile over the full 85 grain 2F rifle load of black. The bullets are cast large at about .465 and I don't bother with paper patching...just lube and go. The Jamison brass is much thicker than the converted 16 gauge shotgun shells so they'll hold a LOT of powder, so some filler should be used. The original carbine load had a thick cardboard tube inserted with the powder in the center to safely reduce the powder charge as well as the lighter bullet so the carbines didn't kick so hard. They used to say that if you pissed off your sergeant he'd slip you a rifle round at the range...which back then would have been a severe kicker. The Martini drink was said to have been named after this rifle...Kicks like a Martini if they're made with good gin!

[@sheldoniusRex]

Hard these days to find a proper Navy strength Gin over here in the States, unless you're in a city like Manhattan. Better now with Curiada but still... Never been a fan of Martinis, (the drink that is.) I prefer a G&T or a Negroni. Or on a hot day a gimlet.

[@tikazombie37]

Couple of years from now 2-gun match: arcflash gauss rifle and laugo alien

[@Arkeo36]

Seeing this Martini-Henry in action makes me want a Ruger No. 1 so bad just so that I could enjoy the good single shot life.

[@nellinecronje6911]

I passed on a No.3 .45-70 at a gunshow couple of years ago- still kicking myself. But I went home with a Citori Upland 20 gauge that day, so not all was lost.

[@citizenkane454]

Do it. Absolutely beautiful rifles.

[@darrengarcia4937]

@@nellinecronje6911 i would want one in .270 or 6mm

[@brass427]

Lay down the extra coupla bucks for a Shiloh Sharps. Incredibly accurate and great fun to handload.

[@joelmcfarland5153]

I bought a single shot auto eject savage 12g I call my trailer park martini Henry.

[@americanrepair]

Ian left hand cycling that bolt like a champ!

[@PunchCatcher]

Ian goes to a match and shoots a Gauss rifle. Ian goes to a match and shoots a Martini-Henry (yes I know it wasn't his) If that's not living your best shooting life I don't know what is. Great job to both of you. Props to Tom for giving it a go with the Martini and being willing to burn that much powder. And while the Martini round was much slower chugging down range there was NO doubt when it hit.

[@mandrakevermilyea7488]

I had a chance at 16yrs old to buy a martini, in 455, with a 45/70 chamber conversion and I passed it up because I didn't know better. Still kicking myself!

[@TheWolfsnack]

Yeah.....I remember a place called Lever Arms in downtown Vancouver mid sixties....a whiskey barrel full of Martinis at $20 each.....people were making lamps out of them back then......sigh...can't even find an old lamp anymore.....oh and Enfield Jungle carbines at $25 ea. down at the Army and Navy store.

[@mandrakevermilyea7488]

@@TheWolfsnack have heard many story like this. Who know that $20 trench art would be a several thousand dollar rifle today?

[@kyleleeson4498]

Ian's spin move on the short range was a thing of beauty.

[@tachometer74]

I was thinking the same thing as Blues Traveler came to mind...

[@gwoody4003]

Cripes the size of the shells on that Martini-Henry... they look like Miller Highlife bottles. Necked-down 24ga shotgun shells jeez.

[@twostroke350]

That Tam-o-Shanter needs some moulding, looks kind of silly perched on top of your head like that. You'd usually wear them folded down against the right side of your head with the cap badege over your left eye. The best way is to soak it in water, shape it then wear it until it's dry. Probably a much quicker and more comfortable process in the desert than in a dingy training barracks in central Scotland!

[@NateTheScot]

Can confirm. Was in the naval forces and am scottish. That's how we did it. Sit with a damp beret on your bonce for a while and keep it pulled down low at the side.

[@aac7183]

@@zoiders bollocks

[@groundmasterc]

Could it perhaps be a different, similar, type of bonnet such as a Balmoral/Kilmarnock?

[@jonprince3237]

@@aac7183 not bollocks, he's correct.

[@j.mcq.8418]

@@jonprince3237 none of the images on google look like how he is wearing it.

[@myronalcock4716]

The lag between firing and the ping of a hit with the Martini-Henry is rather amusing. Great idea for this 2 gun match, throughly enjoyed, thanks!

[@christopherdrekr1078]

As a stranger going to the west to seek that which was lost it's heartwarming to see a Martini Henry still in use. Peachy Carnahan & brother Dravet would approve.

[@jackass6257]

"So I want a cannon, but I want it to fit under my trenchcoat." Martini: "sure but it's gon cost u"

[@pkt1213]

Great job by Tom. Thanks for sharing the video Ian.

[@ianmcmaster274]

As a hat guy, Ian is really wearing that Tam o’ Shanter horribly 😉

[@Sman7290]

Props to you, Tom! Beautiful rifle. Well done.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Love the pieces of unburnt paper floating after each shot of that Martini-Henry. I can imagine the time and care spent into making all those rounds.

[@kiwi_comanche]

Ian slapping that bolt action around like it owes him money. This is superb viewing!!

[@kevinoliver3083]

The Lee-Enfield works best when handled in a "robust and soldierly manner".

[@stanleyronblake1646]

We need Webley Mars Automatic At the range

[@StrangerOman]

Ian gamed that last rifle stage! Full send. Amazing shooting. Martini-henry shoots like a smoke confetti canon with that paper patched rounds. :D

[@HereticalKitsune]

Bad idea matches are always fun. And wow, the Martini-Henry's rounds are slow compared to Ian's. Still love the Martini-Henry, so cool.

[@johnh4957]

wasn't that about 1lb of lead in each shot? that would hurt being thrown !

[@WalkaCrookedLine]

Converting 24 gauge shotgun shell brass... Good grief, where do you even find 24 gauge shotgun brass? Finding seriously rare ammo just to convert to something even more obscure, what a dedicated hobbyist.

[@evanator166]

That is actually pretty easy. Rocky Mountain Cartridge makes lots of obscure and obsolete cartridges. They have 24ga brass shells starting at $70 per 10. So I think that is where a lot of the cost of Tom's rounds comes from. That and the cost of all that lead. What is even more extreme is converting centerfire cartridges to rimfire. Which Chap from BOTR has a video on.

[@duncanandrews1940]

Magtech 24g Brass is used by us Martini-Henry and Snider types. $70 for 10 rounds is an absolute ripoff.......... You can obtain the pre-formed brass from Martyn and X-Ring Services

[@Anonymous-ks8el]

Seems like the Martini-Henry would be much faster & fun with a more easily accessible bandolier, especially one designed for speed & ease of use rather than costume and securely holding the rounds. Still did surprisingly well

[@laveroflove]

What he used was what was used historically. The army wasn't about speed it was about accuracy. If he had some white web gear that I can't think of the name of right now, it had a dump pouch that you pulled rounds out of. That might have sped him up.

[@Kyuschi]

@@laveroflove unless you're talking about the voortrekkers i don't know where you're getting this from, the army was definitely about speed. sure the british might've been more focused on accuracy than others but it was still primarily volume of fire, the belt he was using is more of a hunting thing than military

[@spartan1701]

The bandolier was used a lot by individuals on horse back either military or civilians. So his choice of the bandolier is fitting with the martini.

[@johnh4957]

normally he'd be like one of 20 guys in volley fire? or 2 to 3 ranks also

[@laveroflove]

@@johnh4957 Just think of the f you of platoon volley fire with breach loaders... dear lord that would be a lot of hate going down range.

[@roverM30ds]

Always amazes me how quick the bolt action of Lee Enfield's work.

[@ianhodgson221]

Just come from reloading some 577/450 for my Martini-Henry and sit down to watch this, I most definitely approve the use of said rifle. Now all we need to see is Ian using a Snider in this match.

[@DanielCPhillips]

You can certainly see "the fog of war" when you see people shooting with black powder, can't you? talk about a pain in the neck! It is hard to believe any British soldiers made it out of Rorke's Drift alive shooting these guns....!

[@abysswalker2594]

If we can’t see us they can’t see us ZF Cyanide

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

Literally I suppose. You can experience the modern definition in real time with the Ukraine invasion, the vids posted on social media, and the misinformation that comes from them. Slava Ukraini.

[@laveroflove]

At Isandlwana, the British kill up to 3k and wounded 2k for 1300 of their own killed. And at Rorke's the Zulu didn't want to kill them as it would have brought the empire down on them. The Martini was a top of the line military rifle of the time. It is by no means fast as the army wanted guys to be accurate and not waste ammo. They normally had a load out of about 40 rounds with 20-40 more in their pack.

[@food_toobs8333]

@@abysswalker2594 retreat, thinking of retreating, or just turning around will be considered desertion and dealt with accordingly lol

[@brokenglass9814]

Wait until you hear what the zulus had...

[@cherylburnett7516]

When you ware a Tam-o-Santer (ToS), always pull it down on the opposite side from the cap badge for Officer style, or, down at the front and up at the sides for NCOs and soldier (Jocks).

[@knite_lite]

I love the sound the martini makes when fired. Sounds like a cannon!

[@Jam_MG]

I never thought I would see my favourite gun from Battlefield 1 go against my favourite medic gun from Battlefield V, in real life no less.

[@simonnormand2813]

The Martini Henry was quite popular here in Southern Africa, and there’s more than a few still being used. There’s an outfit in Australia that makes brass for the reloader. A few guys use the DuPont synthetic black powder. The guns tend to kick quite brutally as the barrels get fowled

[@fruitbat4429]

That was kinda awesome! Great outfit choice for both the guys. And kudos to Tom for using a single shot black powder rifle, and not finishing last!

[@deananderson9608]

Lovely to see the Bravo Company 5/6RVR hant badge and Tom-o-shanter being worn here, great stuff

[@Zakalwe-01]

Never heard it called a Tom-o-Shanter before 🤔. ALWAYS Tam-o-Shanter here in Scotland.

[@deananderson9608]

@@Zakalwe-01 That's my bad typo. Yes it's a Tam-o-shanter

[@mgummy91]

That Martini looks like so much fun!

[@jvleasure]

First time Ian won't win the "weirdest loadout" award😆

[@sejembalm]

The old .303 Martini-Enfield is a fun rifle that shoots ammo that is not $6/shot, but don't use the Metford rifles with modern ammo! Martini-Enfield rifles were, by and large, conversions of the Zulu War era .577/450 Martini-Henry, rechambering the rifle for use with the newly introduced .303 British cartridge. The Martini-Enfield Mk I was a Martini-Henry Mk III rebarrelled to .303 and with a new extractor installed, whilst the Martini-Enfield Mk II rifles were generally of new manufacture, although there are examples of converted Mk II rifles. Originally (from 1889) Martini-Henry conversions used Metford rifled barrels (and were known as Martini-Metford rifles), which were more than suitable for the first .303 cartridges, which used black powder as a propellant but wore out very quickly when fired with cordite/nitrocellulose cartridges (introduced in 1895). In 1895, the Enfield rifled barrel was introduced, which was much more suitable for use with "modern" (smokeless) ammunition. The Martini-Enfield saw service with Australian colonial forces during the Second Anglo-Boer War (1899-1902). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini%E2%80%93Enfield

[@ABCKorpi]

Man that big chunk of lead out of the Martini Henry hits the steel with quite the authority.

[@rulebretgne5244]

The sound of low velocity black powder is just beautiful

[@slyllamademon2652]

Ian shooting the Right handed Jungle Carbine is very cursed.

[@scc970]

It's about 46/7 yrs since I fired a Martini-Henry, it was still on MOD's books and was knackered, every so often the round would slip back slightly so the breach wouldn't close. You can see why they were so keen to adopt a different loading mechanism at the time, but still it was a fun weapon to use on a range with no one firing back.

[@Bobbymaccys]

I love how it takes the Martini round a week and a half to reach the target

[@BulletsNBrass]

bang, wait for it.... CLANG

[@AF-uy1tv]

the martini henry has such a slow muzzle velocity, I loved that delay when they were shooting long range targets

[@justindunlap1235]

Not to mention the sound of that lead barely slapping the steel.

[@rockbutcher]

Someone needs to show Ian how to wear a Tam. In it's current configuration it resembles a partially deflated flan.

[@floatsomboy]

Fun fact I have a copy of a photo of my grandfather standing with his Martini-Henry from the second Boer war, he was 5'4" and the rifle comes up to his shoulder. He went over with the Australian forces.

[@snookums01]

As a kid in Australia, I owned an ex-CMF 32/20 chambered Martini-Henry. Nice little rifle, would have loved to have the pair when I owned the 477/450.

[@rkhale02]

13:15, that smile and bolt work made this a top grade video. Love seeing it.

[@burnsboysaresoldiers]

I miss these old 2gun matches with cool old rifles

[@KPen3750]

Its so cool the fact that you can really hear the muzzle velocity different of the two guns. Enfield, imperceivable difference between bang and the *ting* of a hit. With the Martini, its a good 1/4-1/2 a second between bang and *ting*. its really cool imo

[@aidanfarnan4683]

It's even more impresive to see when Ian is just a floating head and set of hands...

[@industrialvectors]

The lever action is so cool. Props to that Tom guest. People like him doing hand loads of real black powder really give us viewer a good comparison to modern equipment. Thank you for being on camera.

[@KushiakaSquig]

So, Ian got outforgotened on this match :)

[@gregcampwriter]

This is such gentlemanly fighting, running down range to set your enemies back up.

[@DoctorBloo]

Tom's a good sport. Thanks for giving us a chance to see the Martini-Henry in action Ian.

[@Getpojke]

☁️BWOOM! ... [𝘈 𝘧𝘦𝘸 𝘮𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳]... TING!☁️ Yup somebody's out with the black-powder rifle today! Great to see you both shooting some nice older stuff & having so much fun. 👍

[@johnh4957]

would look like smoke blanket semaphore from indian wars movies from miles away ; )

[@cydery]

You are demonstrating my all time favourite riffle, the No.5 smle. I owned one for years and for the short range shooting I did it was as close a perfect riffle as you could get. It out did all the new stuff by miles, even over open sights. I also had a M38 Carcano in 6.5, It was brand new out of the box, I loved it. The trick with the clips was to gently press the lips of the clips together to keep the nose of the bullet straight and not pointing up. I used hand loads with commercial brass in both riffles. With good bullets they as good as each other.

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian . and Tom . 🐺

[@AsbestosMuffins]

"That's nota cartridge, THIS is a cartridge!"

[@Metikoi]

Sound of that .303 is nostalgic af, back to when every farmer in nz had one.

[@Hawk1966]

Again I'm in awe of Ian's masterful handling of the bolt, left handed. As a fellow lefty it is something I know is not easy.

[@Sinnistering]

This looks awesome. As someone who doesn't exercise nearly enough, this is the type of thing that would get me to exercise every morning, just so I could come in first on that short range stage. It looks super fun.

[@BulletsNBrass]

I love these. It shows how good we have it with modern stuff, but also how much it can come down to the user and experience with the particular rifle as well. Every system has its quirks.

[@lennilassila5123]

Nice to hear Carl on the background.

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

Lovely video. That M-H... My goodness. What a sight and sound.

[@Chlorate299]

Got to love those black powder ballisticks - BOOM.......clang. Does sound like it's still packing a mighty whallop by the time it gets there.

[@SarcastSempervirens]

Ian, thank you for being a normal person running a weapons channel. I've recommended you to a lot of people who are really anti-gun leaning and they enjoy your content precisely because you're not an agressive, gun crazed guy, they like your attitude and the way your present things. Thanks for doing a great job!

[@IchNixHabenUsername]

I always wonder.. Ian shows up with "weird" old guns, misses some of his shots, even has a malfunction.. and still doesn't finish last place..how is this even possible? 😅

[@SteamCrane]

Think how many various rounds Ian fires per year.

[@Cal94]

i mean, look at any match karl or ian run, where they either didn't have time to zero their guns, or their guns have issue keeping zero... and then imagine someone with a lesser degree of skill/practice, having the same issue, and i imagine that'd probably account for 3 or 4 bottom of the barrel scores every match...

[@HTacianas]

Some people could have similar issues and just decide to forfeit the match instead of going to completion like Ian usually does.

[@arenna47]

Skill based match making

[@Zajuts149]

That last stage was definitely giving the Martini as little penalties as possible. If you run hard, the extra time to catch your breath between shots lets the smoke clear, and hopefully get a smooth reload in.

[@51WCDodge]

A lot of the old Martini actions went on to be rebarrelled in .22. it was that type I learnt on. Unfortunatley, never had the chance to shoot the 'Full Strength' original cartridges. You still find old WD marked Martini actions, dating back to the Victorian age barelled in all calibres and shotgun. They are built like a brick outhouse.

[@allTkindaTstuff]

wow incredible sound on the martini henry

[@williamromine5715]

What I found interesting was that Tom would fire, then was a wait, and finally the ting of the bullet hitting the target. Reminded me of hunting with a 30/40 Krag back in the late 50's.

[@NateTheScot]

Oh Ian that Tam-o-Shanter is a disgrace, my commander would've scalped me and had the others grab me and dunk my head in the loch if i turned up with my beret in that state. Tight and down the right side. Flat to your head as you can get it.

[@Gazpalli]

The sound of the action on that bolt. Smooth as silk!

[@sethmullins8346]

The fact that so many people were below a single shot rifle makes me concerned You gotta be doing something really wrong to be beat by a 150 year old single shot rifle when you're using a modern gun

[@OptimusSledge]

In their defense, someone showing up with a 150 year old gun are probably very well practised with using it, whereas there could be a lot of people turning up with a cheap AR for their first ever match. I mean, I really hope that's the case, but we all know that there's probably quite a few bad shooters who think spending thousands on their gun means they don't have to actually train with it.

[@johnh4957]

target acquisition probably biggest factor, hard to hit what you can't see, too bad they couldn't duct tape a scope on ; )

[@sethmullins8346]

@@OptimusSledge watching this makes me think I wouldn't do that bad at one of these matches. I practice fairly often and I couldn't imagine doing worse than a single shot for speed coming in there with an AR, let alone doing worse than the bunch of people *below that*

[@atfsgeoff]

Sure, but even the last place finisher, still showed up and finished. And that's more than most shooters can say in regards to organized matches.

[@MandolinMagi]

@Steven Van Niman Even still, he took third in manual- which means somebody with a bolt action was still worse than him!

[@Andyfromsomewhere]

Extra points for Tom for the replica Indiana Jones shirt.

[@snookums01]

Having owned and fired both rifles, I loved this episode. I'm really sorry I ever sold the Martini, a great gun. I handloaded resized Schneider .577 cases with 405 grain hand cast hollow points, 80 grains black power and paper patched. I also added some Dacron to the case to keep the powder up at the primer to reduce the change of misfire / partial burn. A lovely rifle to shoot.

[@Law0086]

That Martini was a beast. That muzzle smoke was epic.

[@Jay-mv7xv]

Great content! Keep it up! I have fond memories of almost getting kicked off the public range twice, while doing the mad minute. Had the RO running over and screaming "no automatic fire!", upon seeing my Mk4 no1, and then getting more red faced, and start screaming "no fast fire, slow it down!". I think I still have some of those Iraqi diaper 303's. (smelled like old used diapers) They and the cotton bandoleers had 1917 markings.

[@nathanbanks7091]

I enjoy pretty much all of your videos, but I especially enjoy seeing historic firearms in action. Thank you for what you do.

[@flashcracker1]

I love black powder over and above any other propellant but it must be said that cordite in 303's was the bee's knees.

[@robertfox1401]

Nice spin on that last target carrying transition. It realy does save some momentum.

[@Toodleypops]

I am in Love with that Martini-Henry, and I've never been a big fan of black powder firearms... It's just so... Mmmmmmm

[@peternicol3439]

Tongues of fire on Idris flaring, News of foemen near declaring, To heroic deeds of daring, Call you, Harlech men. Groans of wounded peasants dying, Wails of wives and children flying, For the distant succour crying, Call you, Harlech Men. Shall the voice of wailing, Now be unavailing, You to rouse, who never yet In battle's hour were failing? This our answer, crowds down pouring, Swift as winter torrents roaring. Not in vain the voice imploring Calls on Harlech men.

[@engrs4wrd2]

The Martini Henry rifle is a thing of beauty. Not being able to see my shots after firing would drive me nuts. Good job to Ian for his running to move his targets. I would have had to lay down after going that speed.

[@muddyboots1881]

Not often that Ian gets upstaged at a match, but so nice to see the MH in action!

[@griffin5226]

it would be cool to see a video comparing the all the popular single shot breach loaders ie the martini henry vs Remington rolling block vs trapdoor

[@alun7006]

Chap over at Bloke on the Range is doing something similar, with lots of military rifles of the era.

[@DSlyde]

Tom was a fun addition to the video and he ran that rifle like a champ! Bring him back any time

[@mostdishonorable457]

"When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch, Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old ****; instead remember that Ian didnt zero before the match so your doing fine." Kipling

[@chxyz1048]

That Martini has a nice sound, like music.

[@sestorm2159]

when you got a competition at 5 but a war against the zulu's at 6

[@willynelson6593]

This looks like way more fun for amateurs then 3 gun! I wish I could find something like this to do with my mosin

[@adamcichon6957]

Hey, try to find that kind of event, pair the Mosin with TT-33 and have fun, full "za rodinu" style :)