2 MAJOR Problems With the Crafting System in the War Within!

[@awworrell]

Completely agree. The other issue i have with the patron system is that it shows recipes that a person can't make. It would be great if it awarded recipes then used those as someone learns more. It's weird though for it to require recipes that a person doesn't have or can't make.

[@kevinvaldez5163]

The 2/10 you are seeing are your items. The NPC wants you to provide all 10, you just only have 2 on you. NPCs either provide ALL of an item or NONE, no partials. You are seeing 3 star sanctified alloys because you have use highest quality checked and only have 2 on you.

[@DrewS1890]

You have to put pints in skill towards it. Also you don’t HAVE to provide R3 Sanctified Alloy. Your skill just isn’t high enough to not need it. The crafts they require will be the same throughout the expansion. There is no additional skill coming from anywhere else once you catch up. That’s the point.

[@dormanius]

My biggest problem with crafting in WW is that the mats alone is worth more than what i craft is. Unless I use everything to craft 1 or 2 gold rank items with the concetration. And mabye ill have to proc a Multicraft for it to be worth it. As it is now you really have to spend money to loose money.

[@dormanius]

Acuity can be easy to get if you fill most of the NPC orders. But if you have a pure gather toon then it seems impossible to get anything at all. I have a crater and a gatherer and i think that i've goten twice the amount of acuity on the crafter than i have on the gatherer.

[@screenshotted]

An incentive for crafting orders should be a flat quality buff for items created through the crafting order system.

[@knotlessknot1827]

The public tab basically is only for stuff that doesn't have a quality. Like the enchanted crests but that is almost all. I don't really like the crafting/profession system but i also try to not care all too much. People also don't really understand the worth of acuity, most don't even know that stuff exists. At the start it is really really limited, later you just have too much of it if you are not crafting 24/7.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

Your right. There is a huge dichotomy between Patron crafting orders. I could MAYBE see the high-end orders being worth it if they gave a rare recipe as a reward. I appreciate Blizzard adding the Patron crafting orders, but they seem to have lost sight as to why they put them there in the first place.

[@npenta551]

explain to me why i need to provide all the mats and still pay 5-20k gold. for what? them to click it?

[@robmcbride2486]

Solution: you get knowledge for 5 points a week for doing a public creation for both creator and person who is asking. And you can add acuity if you want

[@BigDaddyWes]

You already get guaranteed acuity which you can then spend for knowledge points. All you have to do is up that reward to make it more viable.

[@Xariann]

You already have to spend time and gold to level up your profession. 50g is nothing nowadays, so really they should just provide the mats imo. As to Artisan Acuity, I wouldn't be surprised if they keep it grindy now, but later they'll add catch up mechanics.

[@screenshotted]

in dragonflight it was artisan's mettle and it started hard to get and out of nowhere you ended up swimming in it. There is a lack of balance in how that feels as a player. A lot of the crafting items are pretty bland and the only reason most players will interact with it is in order to craft embellished gear and for 90% of folks they will get dawnthread embellishments. Engineering was underwhelming in DF but it is even dumber now and I feel like an idiot sticking with it just because I have old items that are fun to use like Walter. The only good thing now is you can craft a recolored mount if you want to pay an insane amount of gold for it. I am already stuck with this terrible profession, at least let me get the mount without selling my soul.

[@SwashBuccaneer]

Those NPCs with the Patron orders are stingier than the actual player base. lol

[@marydanielle7183]

I’m just gathering

[@TheDwarfly]

It's week one... ppl are lvling alts and not making items yet... I think.

[@jpgaming1923]

i think they do it for gold sink maybe. but yeah its too much to spend gold.

[@merwanor4864]

They do it so people buy tokens for gold.

[@xenusci6271]

I'm a double gatherer, I'm in danger! 600 Acuity for tools, I can forget about buying KP. Good thing I already bought some and messed that up and delayed my tools! The best part is I can always not do work orders and not get any extra acuity NEAT! I mean sure you can drop profs and spend thousands doing some degenerate stuff but really?

[@GreakFTW]

I've not really had this npc craft issue as an engineer. I can make most items from mats gathered and a few hundred gold. But I do not need to use top grade mats either. I can simply choose to use lower ones. I did lack the skills for that earlier tho. The public crafting system is kind of a waste tho. As you can not set wanted quality on the items... So you are way better off just finding someone in trade chat. I do not really get what that is for. Ive not seen a single public comission for engineering this far, might work better on other professions?

[@rogerlongfall]

I just have my alts send me crafting orders. I know every is after the points.

[@BigDaddyWes]

It's not really fair to say that the public crafting orders being barren is a problem before the season even starts. The only orders worth making (at least for gear) are for the stuff that takes the Omen spark, right? And you're limited in the amount of those you can acquire. Plus, anecdotally, orders don't stay on the list for more than a minute or two before someone snags them. Beyond that, why would anyone need any crafters at all during heroic week? What could anyone possibly need a crafter for at the time this video was posted? And if they're in a guild with crafters, why would they ever post a public order? This isn't a flaw with the system. It's just not the time to be using crafting orders yet.

[@s1lenceblade]

Artisans Acruity needs to just go away. The fact that you need it to craft so many items AND to purchase the recipes you need to actually max out your profession when the resource is so rare is completely idiotic, and has led me to not want to even touch crafting professions. The only professions I've actually gotten close to maxing out at this point are mining, herb, skinning, and the secondary professions cooking and fishing.

[@abadyabady2293]

The crafting is just a joke I used to love it in ffxiv But when i came to wow i was suprised how frustrating it is I want to upgrade my gears to blue now but believe it or not one gear needs 300 AA How much acuity roughly u can make a month , 50-60 AA So one gear will take u 5-6 months believe it or not just to get ur grasp on crafting in one proffession And dont get me started on patron orders, completing them daily takes around 10 to 20 k gold for each proffession so 20-40k a month is around 1 mil gold of mats And the problem is that u dont get also much gold from selling craftables 1 thing can fix this system Patron orders should be always to give u guaranteed 5 orders with all mats provided per day which gives 5 AA completing each one Second thing is also making people being able to select the needed quality of the craftable in the crafting orders, because really no one bothers to use the trade chat which spams all day

[@abadyabady2293]

Also the commission of patron is a joke Item cost you 1500-5k to craft and they commission 50 gold like wtf ?

[@trimblephillip]

Same with Conan. Recently bought the movies on Amazon and xmogged my warrior from his OG T2 set to now Conan with the brown pants look. Runs with Destiny in one hand and a scarlet Kris in the other. Complete role player toon. Cheers Q!

[@Luxumbra69]

Honestly, crafting gear is just way too expensive. And they've nerfed pce gold income from world quests, races, and mob drops.

[@Reed_0024]

Crafting is crap, its dead. Matts to make any item are worth more then the crafted item. Its unreal. If you can even craft anything, you use all your concentration. Also as an Enchanter, you need storm dust for everything...which you can only get if you DE Greens which the drop rate has been reduced. Can't craft greens bc it requires Storm Dust, sure I can Thaumaturgy and blow 20 of something in hopes to get dust.. pff . stupid. the system is broken. Farming is the best way to get gold, not crafting.

[@ssmolder]

they destroyed crafting

[@WesleyHughston]

I don't know why they changed the crafting system into this convoluted mess

[@BigDaddyWes]

It's really good. I promise you can understand it.

[@Formaldehydex]

Simple solution. Don’t even think about doing all the orders. This isn’t rocket science. Quit whining.

[@avananana]

What's the point of the system then? Sure, nobody is forcing you to do it but the fact that it's financially nonviable and almost straight up idiotic to do them means the system is severely flawed. He's not whining, he's pointing out severe design issues that needs attention.

[@BigDaddyWes]

​@@avanananaYou spend gold on patron orders to get acuity and spend that on knowledge points. That's the point. It should probably be rebalanced a bit, but it's not idiotic to do them. It's just a little too expensive, but the season literally hasn't even started yet, so it's far too early to be acting like this is a problem.