I think I'm standing next to a dead motorcycle too :(
@FisherMan_Al Жыл бұрын
I knew from the Jim Carrey clip alone, this video was gonna tell me everything I needed to know. Thank you sir
@TheMotogiro15 жыл бұрын
Most motorcycles employ what is termed, "Shunt regulators" Shunt regulators are rated to dissipate any extra charging energy from the bike stator into heat through the semiconductor to the heat sink. Car alternators can produce much more charging current ( amperage) than the motorcycle shunt regulator can deal with, hence destroying the regulator. This may not occur in all cases depending on many other conditions but generally it is advised to not have the car engine running when jumping a motorcycle. For safety, Always wear safety eye protection when jumping any vehicle. Ride safe and have fun!
@UhYeahWhateverDude5 жыл бұрын
Moto Giro Yes, thank you. I was about to make the same comment. A lot of anecdotal evidence will appear to the contrary, of course, but if it is just a low battery, it should fire-up easily without the car on.
@Kab0oze2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for the real technical reason why you should jump your bike with the car off (aside from just being told "don't do it!" by the internet) - this makes perfect sense, thanks!
@chrislevi15312 жыл бұрын
And if your having to engage the starter for more than a few seconds, that extra heat is why you usually see melting around the connectors for the 3 white or yellow stator wires. Connector being the weakest link
@sqwop4 жыл бұрын
Every bike deserves a kick start.
@qwanathomas7353 жыл бұрын
True, bloody electrical nonsense.
@richieb90674 жыл бұрын
Nice and precise, not an extra long ego inflating session like most on KZbin. Thanks for the info!
@BlindIo425 жыл бұрын
A trick for getting a big clamp down to a hard to reach moto terminal is to clamp onto a long screwdriver shaft and hold it onto the terminal. I had to do this in the middle of nowhere, while not ideal, it does work in a jam.
@boilerkim1530 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lem. After all these years you are still teaching me stuff
@tinytyron0411youtub15 жыл бұрын
Loving that glove tan :)
@cloudmaker5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Lemmy. Two minutes plus, packed with useful info'. I have bike jump cables permanently packed on my Honda Deauville Nt700 along with my tool/puncture kit,as with most modern bikes they are almost impossible to bump start. Hadn't noticed the tan lines,until i read the other comments! Ride Safe.
@sawgunner855 ай бұрын
It would have been sweet if you mentioned in which order to hook up the positive/negative and when or if both vehicles should or shouldn't be switched on....
@iamtheboxer4 ай бұрын
I remember i watched a few of your videos when I first purchased my 2022 Sportster. Great advice. and you came through again...
@TheHarleyTech5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I made it in a Revzilla video! Next time we should film it together, Lemmy!
@MattzTattz5 жыл бұрын
Stop watching videos and get to work making more!
@user-cx2bk6pm2f5 жыл бұрын
HAHA! Congrats man.
@yourejustintim4 жыл бұрын
I spotted it too haha
@nestorlugo.4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@freetob110 ай бұрын
DO NOT HAVE THE CAR RUNNING WHEN JUMPING A MOTORCYCLE!!! MAKE SURE THE CAR IS OFF TO CHARGE THE MOTORCYCLE!!!
@dmironyuk27 күн бұрын
👍 "less voltage = safer"
@argentosebastian4 ай бұрын
One important step he missed. Which terminal to connect 1st. Positive or negative?
@ozzy12805 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing tips Lemmy !!! Would love to see a video on how to push start a motorcycle.
@uses0ap5 жыл бұрын
i like how they use the a/c line as a ground at 1:08
@gavinhansen682311 ай бұрын
You either know or you don’t! Electrical is a ghost for sure!
@cnmg71215 жыл бұрын
Direct, to the point, informative Liked and subscribed Thanks for this video
@fistbumpbros5 жыл бұрын
Did this all the time with my car in the garage. Those car jumper cables clamps are indeed a tad too big for motorcycle use though.
@DavidBlack1014 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys - saved my Saturday ride today! 😀
@dastuun5 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing on this one. Ahem. Thanks, Lemmy.
@cesarjuarez3888Ай бұрын
It’s my birthday and I left the key on after I came home to set up my cardo, smoke and boom dead lmao
@0bso2 жыл бұрын
So, what about older bikes with shunt type regulators? Are you sure this information 100% applies to them too?
@mattcottrell33362 жыл бұрын
Just based on the comments I've read if you are standing next to a dead motorcycle and need to jump start it, go get a new battery as soon as possible. It looks to me like a lot of people don't realize an AGM battery will hold a charge til it doesn't and then needs to be reconditioned. You will eventually lose enough acidic conductivity to a point where even jumping or charging it won't help it... a battery has to be replaced based on its warranty life expectancy. If it dies before the warranty they will give you a new one based on that warranty....
@user-cx2bk6pm2f5 жыл бұрын
Lemmy is one of the few KZbinrs on my automatic thumbs up list.
@kiffy073 жыл бұрын
Lemmy solid arm sunburn, you need to get out of the office and more on the road!! 😂
@dadtrap5 жыл бұрын
Lemmy nice using John Maxwell’s video lol. I carry a NOCO GB20 in both my bikes. It is compact and the clamps are perfect for a motorcycle. It will also start up to a 5 liter car engine.
@Boobtube.4 жыл бұрын
I would question having the car running while doing this. Keep car turned off while jumping a bike, unless you want to fry things on fuel injected bikes.
@CGFIELDS3 жыл бұрын
He should have said this. Was waiting to hear it. 🤦🏾♂️
@PDPIE10293 жыл бұрын
No, that’s not how 12 volt systems work. A component draws what current it needs. Think about it, if that’s how the components worked the ECU would be hooked to the battery and would tell the battery when to send current. That’s not the case though. The ECU tells the component to turn on, then the component draws what ever current it needs to run. Nothing more, nothing less.
@Boobtube.3 жыл бұрын
@@PDPIE1029 dont care, A car does not have to be running to jump start a bike. . Period. There is no need for it. If you think there is a need, than you go right ahead and keep the car running while you jump your bike. Safer way will *ALWAYS* be to turn car off before jumping any bike. Period. Your thinking is backwards. You are thinking what each component draws current wise. I'm saying a cars charging system will shove tons more current into the bike, regardless of what the components "say" they need, hence frying things. I'm done with this conversation. Will not be responding.
@PDPIE10293 жыл бұрын
@@Boobtube. lol, noob
@PDPIE10293 жыл бұрын
@@Boobtube. as long as it’s a 12 volt system, the max a car or a bike will see is 14.8 to 15volts. You can have a car running and nothing will kill the bike. You know NOTHING about 12 volt electrical systems. www.maniacelectricmotors.com/will-a-high-output-alternator-damage-the-ecu-pcm-ecm.html
@alexisvilla1063 Жыл бұрын
Love it I stopped watching after 10 seconds for that’s all I needed to know
@luketalaid12953 жыл бұрын
I used my semi truck to jump my r6 and now my r6 is hitting 230° - 250° i dont think its normal
@miniacs25 жыл бұрын
I am not reading all the comments here but I hope someone stated to be sure the car engine is not running when jump starting a bike. Battery to battery works because a battery is just a "bucket of electricity" to take out as much as the bike needs. If the car is running however it should be understood the charging system is a "pump" potentially delivering/pushing out many more amps than the bike electrical system can handle. So be sure to store in your long term memory "car engine off" when jump starting.
@ciocanul Жыл бұрын
The amps running through a wire are dictated by the resistance of the consumer and the voltage of the source (Amps=Volts/Ohms. Ohm said it, not me). So the smaller the resistance or the higher the voltage, the more amps will be generated in the circuit. Although car's alternator can sustain a high current without frying itself, the bike's circuits will only generate the curent they need, based on their internal resistance. The amps will not increase no matter how powerful the source, as long as the voltage stays the same. If, however, the source is not able to generate the current required by a powerful consumer, the voltage will drop and the source may get fried. If the source's output voltage is higher, the amps will increase and the consumer will get fried (this is why you don't plug your phone directly to your wall socket). I never get tired of explaining this although I am rarely understood.
@tcatnat705 жыл бұрын
I had read an article a few months ago that said when jumping a motorcycle with a car that you shouldn't have the car running. Any truth to that?
@rehtorbF035 жыл бұрын
I got the same question!! Whats the truth Lemmy??
@Benjamin-dj4pt5 жыл бұрын
By experience, I will tell you that I never started my car when boosting my bike. The simple power of the battery was enough. What I would suggest is try 1st without starting the car and if it doesn't work, start the car. Also, by doing that, like Lemmy says, you will have a better idea on the condition of your battery.
@JensEskildsen5 жыл бұрын
Why would you start the car? If the carbattery is sufficient to start the car, it will start any motorcycle no problem.
@austin10025 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a motorcycle dealer. We had a few bikes come in with roasted regulators and/or stators from jumping off a car. Always leave the car off to jump start a motorcycle. The car's electrical system could harm your bike's charging system and it's often not necessary to run the car to generate sufficient amperage to start a motorcycle.
@HRMayo5 жыл бұрын
Not a necessity but not a horrible idea either.
@da72ma5 жыл бұрын
Good job Lemmy... Always watch your your what to do series...
@ababbit74615 жыл бұрын
I would like to add one thing to this video. At 1:19, the battery is shown being jumped with the negative jumper being attached to the battery first and then, the positive jumper cable is attached second. WRONG. That is completely opposite of the way you do it. If you put the negative first, there is a chance of causing a spark, when the positive cable is attached! This could cause an explosion!!! Nope, put the positve on first, then the negative so that there is no chance of causing a spark.....
@gangGreenthumb Жыл бұрын
Hey Lemmy. Turned my switch, no power at all. Connected a tender. Nothing. Connected jumper cables. Nothing. Connected external battery jumper, nothing. Battery is HD Lithium less than a month old. I disconnected the battery, noticed a spark. Tightened the bolts, turn the switch. I have power and could start the bike. Why would would my FLHXS act as if the battery was completely dead (or not installed) until I reseated battery cables? There was nothing wrong with the connection.
@willg545 ай бұрын
I was told that when you jumped the motorcycle, do not have the car running, because the amperage of a car battery is a lot more than that of a motorcycle, and it could easily damage your motorcycle battery. Just what I heard, passing it along to you.
@glennrueger86895 жыл бұрын
I melted a lithium iron battery by jumping it car to bike. I was later told by the manufacturer's rep not to do the jumping. So I went back to a heavy Yuasa lead acid. Jump all you want, all day long. (Note: iron not ion, yeah)
@Truncali824 жыл бұрын
Glenn Rueger Yikes, just tried this on my bike with a lithium battery after watching this video. Something fried, no electrical system response at all now. Car battery is fine, I removed the bike battery and hope I can it will come back with a trickle charger... :/
@iamtheboxer4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@InReality33 Жыл бұрын
Glove tan on fleek.
@Zach_A5 жыл бұрын
1:17, that's a gen 1 SV650. One of my favorite bikes.
@terrellgarfield74343 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I have. It’s been sitting all winter. I’m too excited to get it back on the road.
@jaredwalker47595 жыл бұрын
Hey so I just did this to my Honda CH80 scooter and something happened... I think I fried something. The main fuse is ok... uh oh what do I do now? No lights, no horn, no starter, no gas gauge, totally dead...
@Truncali824 жыл бұрын
Jared Walker, Same thing happened to mine. Have you figured out a solution?
@garthhowe2975 жыл бұрын
Didn't know there were smaller jumper cables available for bikes ... good to know.
@partyman6666 Жыл бұрын
Clamps.. not cables. The cables still need to be thick enough to transmit the starting current safely without melting. Thicker cables preferably made of copper are better. You'll notice that most battery tenders use small gauge wires like 16 or 18 gauge which is insufficient for actually jumping a motorcycle whereas jumper cables are ideally 2 to 6 gauge.
@aidanacebo952910 ай бұрын
You can also jump a car with a bike. I've done it a few times.
@Ybhunter04Ай бұрын
Damn I did exactly what you said not to do did I just fry my battery or my whole bike :(
@ichhasseamerika3 жыл бұрын
Thanx dude!! Btw, that's one sad lookin battery on your table there. Right terminal is freakin melted! Anyway, thanx for the info!
@stephensticht2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, just what I needed!
@John-rw2zf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
@lachezarbalev66625 жыл бұрын
I've jump started my bike (Honda NC750) with a car battery without starting the car. No issues but... Now I'm rereading the Owner's Manual and I've found something written with small letters: "NOTICE: Jumpstarting using an automotive battery is not recommended, as this can damage your motorcycle's electrical system." :-) No explanations whatsoever. Next time I'll try to push it bit instead.
@isaactaylor18335 жыл бұрын
Not recommended because car batteries are larger than motorcycles and have more amperage that could damage motorcycle batteries. That’s all.
@lordthomas713 жыл бұрын
Battery to battery is fine. It's when the car is running that might cause issues.
@justinmclaughlin4551 Жыл бұрын
I used a set of automotive jumper cables before watching this video, what is a dead short and how do I fix it?
@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI2 жыл бұрын
Thanks needed this
@maxthullen6408 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you sir!
@seanwillman63732 жыл бұрын
Thanks partner!
@desmondbeck5072 жыл бұрын
I was trained at MMI to never so this because there is an amperage difference, and that it can fry to ECM. Be careful.
@INNOVATIONCONCEPT4 жыл бұрын
simple and effective as a video ,thanks
@roncar1761 Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm...I was taught to have the vehicle OFF when jump starting a motorcycle. With the vehicle engine on raise the risk of overloading other sensitive parts on the motorcycle!
@tamar52615 ай бұрын
Thanks... standing next to my dead Royal Enfield after a winter layup
@desipranksterz79092 жыл бұрын
My bike would not start after turning it off for a short period of time. When I let it sit overnight it starts up the next day no problem, only doesn't start when im riding and turn it off for like 10 mins and go to start it again. Anyone got ideas what's going on?
@TheThinkingMansTemplar5 жыл бұрын
My bike battery is dead as we speak....thanks for this...left my keys in the ignition ..
@jesustheyounga5 жыл бұрын
Same bro same, I had to race to work lol
@charlieryan17365 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another useful video
@jsteveabbott4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the tips!
@ConservativeCalifornian1032 Жыл бұрын
But can you jump a car with a motorcycle battery? I would love to know that knowledge in case my familys car goes out when we’re road tripping.
@rickdj2 жыл бұрын
Great info and right to the point! However one question and I'm trying to find out which is correct.. I was told if you jump start a bike from a car, to turn the car off and not have the engine running so it does not put excess power out which could possibly damage the motorcycle electrical system. Is this true or false? Also I've been in situations where I keep a small portable jump starter in my bike bag which can jump start not only a car but a motorcycle as well and has the small connectors to attach to the motorcycle battery. RSVP soonest on the question regarding the jump start portion and again thanks for the great info :-)
@mattgayda2840 Жыл бұрын
The last thing you want to do is dump a bunch of amperage quickly into a small battery! This can not only destroy the battery but create an explosion because the charging causes hydrogen gas to be created... Think Hindenburg but with plastic shrapnel from the battery exploding 🤯 So you ALWAYS have the charging vehicle off and simply use the massive account of CCA (cold cranking amps) to start the smaller engine. If the engine dies when disconnecting the larger battery the battery is probably junk and you will cause damage to the motorcycle by running the charging system at full blast constantly. It's much cheaper to replace a battery than dismantling the engine and replacing all these components! You can also damage the electronics on newer bikes by dumping high amperage into them, my truck can put out 270 amps and a bike isn't even rated for anywhere near that so it could destroy the ECU and wiring harness.
@ciocanul Жыл бұрын
@@mattgayda2840 The amps running through a wire are dictated by the resistance of the consumer and the voltage of the source (Amps=Volts/Ohms. Ohm said it, not me). So the smaller the resistance or the higher the voltage, the more amps will be generated in the circuit. Although your truck's alternator can sustain 270amps without frying itself, the bike's circuits will only generate the curent they need, based on their internal resistance. The amps will not increase no matter how powerful the source, as long as the voltage stays the same. If, however, the source is not able to generate the current required by a powerful consumer, the voltage will drop and the source may get fried. If the source's output voltage is higher, the amps will increase and the consumer will get fried (this is why you don't plug your phone directly to your wall socket). I never get tired of explaining this although I am rarely understood.
@user-wr3gp8hj3i3 жыл бұрын
My Buddy has a dead battery but also stripped the screw on his battery cover (2012 super glide).. can he jump from starter wire? He was told NO by a local shop.
@tommagloves5 жыл бұрын
Riding tan! Nice one.
@019208237 Жыл бұрын
I've a question that I can't find anywhere and it's can you bump start a motorcyle if the voltage regulator and main 30 fuse on the starter relay is blown? I can't bump start mine and this means no spark and I've a fried voltage regulator but I'm wondering there might be more that's at fault like the stator. My 30 amp fuses keep blowing every time I put one in the starter relay and it's not the starter relay as I've just put a new one on then noticed the voltage regulator is deformed underneath. I've ordered a new voltage regulator.
@jamie-ox8sg5 жыл бұрын
Im here because im building a trike and wondering if a car battery will damage the wiring or even be charged by the bike engine or cause any damage to the starter motor
@nickscaring21705 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@russianamerican73973 жыл бұрын
People telling me jumping bike of car will fry stator, I did it for 25 years and never had an issue.
@Idlehandzx22 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the 3 years that have past with battery technology ie lithium batteries in motorcycles. I left my lights on battery is dead with my lithium battery inside a Harley fat boy I am having a hard time finding answers
@billflixtone66842 жыл бұрын
My Harley has a Lithium LiFe battery is that also OK
@MattzTattz5 жыл бұрын
That happened to me. It was like playing the game Operation, and I hit a little tab sticking off the frame of my Electra Glide. Killed the battery.
@Supermofo3385 жыл бұрын
You guys should host a bike night/ ride
@rwilletts19685 ай бұрын
Does it matter if the car is running or not while boosting the car?
@rickgold66642 жыл бұрын
Hey! Since when has Jason Mamoa been doing these videos? 🤔😜
@mr.holmes2333 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuu
@ayosirsnow5 жыл бұрын
My bike starts with a jump but it doesn't start without cables, it makes that buzzing battery noise. Wtf do I do????
@fernandov28385 жыл бұрын
Great video
@arushibajaj8756 Жыл бұрын
So helpful, thank you! I'm having some issues - followed this and jump started the bike, but even after the mechanical took over, it stopped after a few minutes, and won't start at all now - no lights, etc too. What should I do? Thanks!
@lucidafflictions1706 Жыл бұрын
Probably a bad battery. If it can't hold a charge it won't keep your bike on. Try testing it or replacing it.
@arushibajaj8756 Жыл бұрын
@@lucidafflictions1706 thank you so much!!
@Banjoliope2 жыл бұрын
Don’t have the car running while jumping a motorcycle. Very important.
@NoNameForThisGuy Жыл бұрын
Why do people tell me to ground to the frame rather than the negative post?
@wyattsmith9125 жыл бұрын
Yes you can without any damage but it never works for my Harley’s Just won’t get the juice It needs but soon as I get my booster pack or charger for it, it fires right up.
@AstoundingAmelia4 жыл бұрын
It it's not starting You may need to then start the car and wait 5 min
@thebarila56498 ай бұрын
Does the car have to be on ?
@Charlie-wc8oh3 ай бұрын
My bike is also dead
@davidj9804 Жыл бұрын
*Black then red you're f***ing dead! Red then black you're okay Jack!* Especially if you just topped off your gas tank 💥kabloww💥
@meganterry38643 жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 awesome vid. Nice and short with common sense explanations. 2 bonuses- you speak well and threw in some Pet Detective 👍🏼
@souleater0815 Жыл бұрын
I am standing by a dead motorcycle.
@souleater0815 Жыл бұрын
It worked!
@seanhall40984 жыл бұрын
I heard not to start your car, just start the motorcycle. Alternator puts out alot when a car starts.
@tiagovazkez9356 Жыл бұрын
Can you jump the car with the motorcycle?
@alfiepar7225 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍 one fella!!!
@1silvervespa2 жыл бұрын
To be safer do not have the car running ... Incase the car is putting out too much from the Alternator !!! Don't take that chance .
@thelostostrich67124 жыл бұрын
Question. So when I’m jumping off my bike with my car do I not connect the negative to the battery of the bike? Or do I connect it to a ground on the bike? Everything else on the car is connected right both positive and negatives are connected to the battery of the car?
@davidgruben97715 жыл бұрын
Thanks thats Good too know bro
@EmoKen5 жыл бұрын
Left my LEDs on, used a truck to charge the battery but had to push start.
@skirwan783 жыл бұрын
I feel odd that I immediately recognized that was John's house from watching his youtube videos lol.
@joshuabruns28422 жыл бұрын
This is how you short your rectifier plate
@Keyumiz4 жыл бұрын
If i start my motorcycle over and over will it drain the battery? I was practicing my friction zone and kept stalling. I kept starting the bike and now it wont start anymore
@RevZilla4 жыл бұрын
In most cases yes, since you are using the battery power to start the bike but not giving it enough time to recharge what it just lost. You should use a multimeter on the battery and test the level to see if that is the culprit, but it likely is. For more questions, feel free to reach out to our Gear Geeks in customer service as they are able to help easier. You can reach them at 877.792.9455 or cs@revzilla.com. Ride safe, - Pat
@billybegood4662 жыл бұрын
One thing I've always done with jumping a bike with a car is to not turn the car on. The bike can draw the juice it needs without the car running, and I think there's a chance that a running car can fry your bike's electrical.
@naushad9112 жыл бұрын
How can a running car damage the motorcycle's electricals?
@billybegood4662 жыл бұрын
@@naushad911 If you're using bike jumper cables, then it's not an issue. But if you have to use car jumper cables, then a running car can push too much current into your bike.
@ciocanul Жыл бұрын
@@billybegood466 The amps running through a wire are dictated by the resistance of the consumer and the voltage of the source (Amps=Volts/Ohms. Ohm said it, not me). So the smaller the resistance or the higher the voltage, the more amps will be generated in the circuit. Although car's alternator can sustain a high current without frying itself, the bike's circuits will only generate the curent they need, based on their internal resistance. The amps will not increase no matter how powerful the source, as long as the voltage stays the same. If, however, the source is not able to generate the current required by a powerful consumer, the voltage will drop and the source may get fried. If the source's output voltage is higher, the amps will increase and the consumer will get fried (this is why you don't plug your phone directly to your wall socket). I never get tired of explaining this although I am rarely understood.
@undisputed1one Жыл бұрын
@ciocanul ok so what's the conclusion. You can run the car no issue? Or should the car always remain off. According to your comment if the voltage increases there's a problem. And the voltage increases when the car is turned on so...
@billybegood466 Жыл бұрын
@@undisputed1one I've always been able to successfully jump my bike with the car off, so I've never seen a reason to turn it on.
@hghmhgm4 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate, you really made it clear!!
@murda_daniel2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jimpion5 жыл бұрын
Can you jump a bike from another bike using the SAE leads? Or from a car for that matter, assuming you have the clamp to SAE connection handy?
@austin10025 жыл бұрын
The wire gauge for most SAE leads is not intended for high amperage. It is possible it may work, or you may melt the cables from excessive resistance.
@user-uf4fv4rn8t4 жыл бұрын
Hey quick question for any one who would know. Can I use the battery tender plug that I always leave connected to my bike battery to jump start it with the clamps also compatible with my battery tender plug? I don't see with it would not work it's just that I think there are fuses on those adapters so maybe not made to withstand jumpstarting current?
@NoCommie2 жыл бұрын
You ever figure that one out?
@user-uf4fv4rn8t2 жыл бұрын
@@NoCommie have never tried but read and heard that the wire gauge is too small and not made for that kind of current so should not jumpstart with the battery tender plug.