2^n is greater than n^2. Strategy for Proving Inequalities. [Mathematical Induction]

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@anikethkopalle82
@anikethkopalle82 Жыл бұрын
probably the best explanation on youtube. great stuff! thanks!
@idellius7505
@idellius7505 2 ай бұрын
I have been struggling with this proof for a while, and every explanation I've found about it just didn't click for me. You put this together in a way that no other KZbin lecturer could. Thank you for saving my sanity brother!
@madonnacesso40
@madonnacesso40 11 ай бұрын
I love your videos man! From Italy 🇮🇹, never stop learning
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@davide816
@davide816 Жыл бұрын
thank you very much you definitly need more views
@NicaKasende
@NicaKasende 21 күн бұрын
I'm here coz i went to the math sorcerer and he completely confused me😂😭
@ANIMEPLANET-t4n
@ANIMEPLANET-t4n 2 ай бұрын
thank you for making this video. It was really useful for me.
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 3 ай бұрын
*Everyone,* here is a modified approach: The base case is for n = 5. 2^5 vs. 5^2 32 > 25 So, the base case is satisfied. The inductive step. Assume it is true for n = k, for k >= 5: That is, assume 2^k > k^2. Then, show it is true for n = k + 1. That is, show 2^(k + 1) > (k + 1)^2. Take the inequality in what we are assuming and multiply each side by 2 so that it resembles closer to the inequality that we want to show: Assume: 2^k > k^2 2*2^k >2*k^2 2^(k + 1) > 2k^2 We ultimately need to show 2^(k + 1) is greater than (k + 1)^2 for k >= 5. If we can show that 2k^2 is greater than (k + 1)^2, then we can use the transitive property to finish this. 2k^2 vs. (k + 1)^2 2k^2 vs. k^2 + 2k + 1 2k^2 - k^2 - 2k vs. 1 k^2 - 2k vs. 1 k^2 - 2k + 1 vs. 1 + 1 (k - 1)^2 vs. 2 By inspection, you can see that for k >= 3, the left-hand side is greater than 2. So, 2^(k + 1) > 2k^2 > (k + 1)^2. By transitivity, 2^(k + 1) > (k + 1)^2. Thus, by the Principle of Mathematical Induction, I have shown that 2^n > n^2 for all integers n greater than or equal to 5.
@shortscouture1
@shortscouture1 Жыл бұрын
absolute legend saving me from cs
@EzraSchroeder
@EzraSchroeder 2 ай бұрын
this one is straight out of an advanced calculus book haha! it is a problem in chapter one of Kenneth A. Ross: Analysis the Theory of Calculus -- love it!
@Loots1
@Loots1 Жыл бұрын
took me a bit to not be confused but i get it, amazing
@m37155ar0cha
@m37155ar0cha Жыл бұрын
😂 love the Einstein insert!!
@jumpman8282
@jumpman8282 10 ай бұрын
That was a neat solution. Thank you!
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 10 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@rooseveltpantaleonvara9489
@rooseveltpantaleonvara9489 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was a great explanation I finally got it.
@shuaibjemil
@shuaibjemil Жыл бұрын
Thanks sir.Waiting for maths induction for questions in Matrix form
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
You should share an example. It helps. That would be Linear Algebra
@shuaibjemil
@shuaibjemil Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons ok sir
@akashthakur1692
@akashthakur1692 Жыл бұрын
Great ❤️ Love from india
@iCheerycherry
@iCheerycherry 5 ай бұрын
Mujhe bhi batana please last step smjh nahin aaya 😢
@franzsenkelo6246
@franzsenkelo6246 8 ай бұрын
Perfect
@bhuvan17175
@bhuvan17175 3 ай бұрын
love from india nice explanation
@No.School.dk_Colur
@No.School.dk_Colur 11 ай бұрын
That little tmr song/ intro was so sweet
@abioolayoyledegil8698
@abioolayoyledegil8698 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video!Im freshman in college and we had induction topic 3-4 weeks ago and i remember doing this exercise or similar to this one in class. My question is instead of step by step making it smaller in 6:51 can we just say 2k+1 is less than k² because k is starting from 5? Does that work too?
@kylebdvl
@kylebdvl 11 ай бұрын
You can actually do that what i did : >k^2 + k^2 | Take out k^2 = k x k > k^2 + k *k | k*k = 5k because K>=5 > k^2 + 5k | split into 2k + 3k >k^2 + 2k + 3k | 3k>1 > k^2 + 2k + 1
@kylebdvl
@kylebdvl 11 ай бұрын
so technically you're not wrong actually
@dengankunghacharles1115
@dengankunghacharles1115 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks sir
@vpikosh
@vpikosh 3 ай бұрын
Great content man, thank you so much for the explanation. Now would the proof change if instead of strictly greater than we had a greater or equl than? Like 2^n >= n^2
@austinwhite2415
@austinwhite2415 7 ай бұрын
thank you
@tgx3529
@tgx3529 2 ай бұрын
I had also some idea. 2^n-n^2>0, (2^n/2-n)(2^n/2+n)>0, So this Proof Is ekvivalent with the Proof 2^n/2>n by induction... sqrt2*2^n/2>n+1 for n+1, sqrt2=(1+ something Positive). Sometimes I like combinations Proofs.
@shmuelzehavi4940
@shmuelzehavi4940 3 ай бұрын
Very nice approach end explanation. I'll present another approach, for the proof that: [∃ m ∈ N , m > 4 , 2^m > m^2] ⟹ [n = m + 1 ⟹ 2^n > n^2] Proof: 2^m > m^2 ⟹ 2^m - m^2 > 0 Therefore, for n = m + 1 we obtain: 2^n - n^2 = 2^(m+1) - (m+1)^2 = 2⋅2^m - m^2 - 2m - 1 = 2(2^m - m^2) + (m-1)^2 - 2 > (m-1)^2 - 2 > (4-1)^2 - 2 = 7 > 0 Therefore: 2^n > n^2 ∎
@Frans-ds6ei
@Frans-ds6ei 8 ай бұрын
🎉🎉 thank you!!
@KingIndra-r2h
@KingIndra-r2h 20 күн бұрын
does it also work if i turn it into 2^k + 2^(k+1)>(k+1)^2?
@EzraSchroeder
@EzraSchroeder 2 ай бұрын
where'd you get your hat? i might need one...
@HowlingDeath
@HowlingDeath 10 ай бұрын
k^2> 2k+1 What I don't get is how can put least value of k=4 in above eq?
@The-Collector-g7q
@The-Collector-g7q Жыл бұрын
I still don't understand 😭
@JosephineSianjase
@JosephineSianjase 11 ай бұрын
Sir please improve on your board I can't see
@No.School.dk_Colur
@No.School.dk_Colur 11 ай бұрын
U need to ask yourself what you don’t get: is it the principle of induction? The principle of calculating the inequality or maybe something simpler like the calculation rules ( I know you probably didn’t need this but once u break down what u undertaken and what u don’t it becomes much easier for you to help itself understand)
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 3 ай бұрын
​@@No.School.dk_Colur-- This is not partial texting. Spell out all of your words.
@dnaingnaing4345
@dnaingnaing4345 Жыл бұрын
May I ask that if it doesn't work for k =5,Can I work out to prove k=6and if k=6works out does that mean P(n)is true for k greater than 4.
@dnaingnaing4345
@dnaingnaing4345 Жыл бұрын
Please answer me.I feel so frustrating with inequalities induction. There are so many ways and I am dizzy now.
@dnaingnaing4345
@dnaingnaing4345 Жыл бұрын
Why do u choose 4k which is not 5k? Why do u want to reduce?
@dnaingnaing4345
@dnaingnaing4345 Жыл бұрын
Explain me please.
@dnaingnaing4345
@dnaingnaing4345 Жыл бұрын
Is it normal to reduce and can I reduce almost every inequalities like that, sir?
@dnaingnaing4345
@dnaingnaing4345 Жыл бұрын
Sir, will itbe wrong if I try to calculate =k square plus 5k =k square plus 2k plus 3k =ksquare plus 2k plus 1
@giggablob4377
@giggablob4377 7 ай бұрын
i will never understand induction with inequalities cus i can wrap my brain around the fact, that i can js change the value like that 😭
@jordanchew9552
@jordanchew9552 6 ай бұрын
Well basically that's the point. In mathematical induction for inequalities, as long it doesn't disrupt the thing which in this case, the greater than sign, you can basically make up ur own variables as long it makes the statement true. But not every variables, it only works when u try to proof it. By which in this example the 4k, because we know that k>4 which is essentially k=5, so sub it into the k^2, we get 25 right, then why it's 4k, because if we sub it into the 4(20), it's correct right 25>20 so there u go
@jordanchew9552
@jordanchew9552 6 ай бұрын
U could say that it's 3k, just that remember to fact it out that it will become 2k + k for the next step, I don't think it works for 2k, it might work but there's gonna some explanation involved as well so just follow the variables from the (k+1)^2 expanded version
@yasir6347
@yasir6347 10 ай бұрын
Discrete math is a different beast 😅
@syl5217
@syl5217 Жыл бұрын
Good work. But not clear to me.
@panjak323
@panjak323 2 ай бұрын
Hmm why not use n > 2log2(n)
@PillsStore-ed4es
@PillsStore-ed4es 6 күн бұрын
My prob is how do you know k²
@Ruth-be9pm
@Ruth-be9pm Жыл бұрын
Make a video specifically for me because I still don't get it 😢
@akihayakawa788
@akihayakawa788 11 ай бұрын
WAITT I GET IT NOW LOL TYSM
@TwiBible-b4i
@TwiBible-b4i 4 ай бұрын
still do not understand...good work though🙂
@anhdanh7969
@anhdanh7969 Жыл бұрын
Toan gi bo ich
@natureswindow
@natureswindow Ай бұрын
this reminds me of curry (not racially motivated)
@Kojoakomeaopare
@Kojoakomeaopare 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand your teaching
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