2 Peter 3:9 - "not willing that any should perish" Comprehensive Exegesis

[@bencarter29072]

Thank you brother for this clarification the this often misunderstood test.

[@alihoussney7870]

God hates murder and yet He predestined the crucifixion by His hand and His will (Acts 2:23, Acts 4:27). God has two wills.

[@mikeschaller9233]

I would agree with this interpretation, He is long suffering with believers as they need to reach fruition in order to be saved. But what do you do with 1 Tim 2:4 where He wills all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth?

[@alihoussney7870]

Steer away from this guy. He does not understand Scripture and is in the dangerous, Hyper Calvinist camp. That is dangerous.

[@johnman8554]

All men.. What about women?.. Thats gender discrimination..Hebrews 12:2 says Jesus creates faith. I just don't understand how we choose to believe before we recieve faith?.

[@johnman8554]

So also at present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.... I have no idea why.. But its election of grace.. But not elected now, but before foundation of the world.. Before.. Did we exist before?.. Were we Gods before He made world.. I mean were we conscious?. Beings.. Will find out soon...

[@jeremynethercutt206]

@@johnman8554i would answer what you said by this brother It is all.of grace, ALL of Gods goodness Faith is a gift, to believe is a gift. God has given this, he has opened these eyes and changed this heart The first act of obedience as a christan is to believe in the person and work , the life death and reserrection and reign of the Lord Jesus Christ, Important-To believe in him isn't what makes you a christan, this is your first fruit This is the fruit, this is a gift to you To believe in Jesus isn’t the same as believing Jesus Regeneration must precede true saving faith Regeneration is being born from above By GOD of the spirit Just stay in Gods word and pray it is all revealed to you ! Love you

[@jeremynethercutt206]

@@alihoussney7870absolutely not, this is not hyper Calvinism at all This is expounding and exposition the revelation that God has given and reading it through the authors true meaning

[@alihoussney7870]

No it's NOT schizophrenic. God has two wills and this is documented all over Scripture, Mr. McClarty. God has a decreed will and a revealed will.

[@travissharon1536]

This could be referring to the unrighteous who died in unrighteousness. Me thinks you have some Greek superstitions about the God of Abraham. i.e. neo Platonic Augustinian gnostic thoughts of election and predestination.

[@alihoussney7870]

Hell was created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41). Jim, repent of your Hyper-Calvinistic theology and submit to the God of Scripture.