2-Stroke vs. 4-Stroke - TransWorld MotoCross

[@losi8ightyew]

With 2 stroke its all about keepin' er in the right rpm range, keep er' on that powerband and youll kick some ass.

[@ReaLzEdits]

if you want a smooth power delivery get a 4 stroke if you want an agressive power delivery get a 2 stroke

[@phillsmith-i7f]

7:25. The smile when he was asked if he liked the two stroke 👍🏻

[@olds455man]

Look at the big smiles on both guys faces after riding the YZ250. That's what its all about for me. Those 2 strokes are really fun to ride!

[@stefane458]

6 stroke for life

[@stefane458]

you know they are the best!

[@W1NDOWS7myIDEA]

They throw the kid on the 2 stroke and he comes back grinning from ear to ear. He knows damn well they are awesome machines.

[@bizzloc718]

Just the sound of two strokes is the best

[@eamh2002]

I'd go for 2-stroke, the sound, the power delivery, the maintenance, the cost, the reliability.

[@plague1313]

Nothing beats the smell or sound of the 2 stroke.

[@mikep5027]

Nothing beats that 2-stroke sound..

[@matscarlsen]

I am a 2 stroke fan and will be for ever.

[@MMaddox73]

2 Strokes all the way, I just love the feel of the powerband kicking in and the bike comming out from under you.

[@steventweir8808]

2 strokes win hands down....

[@jondoe6618]

lol no

[@vannmarek984]

4 strokes are much easier to handle but the tork and power on a 2 stroke is sick

[@jaretboston9396]

You don't put a 250f next to a 250 2 stroke. No comparison.

[@davindrachenberg8536]

the yz250 would win... that is why they made a yz450f.

[@jacksonakers5144]

^^^ Put a yz450f against a cr500.. Again no comparison

[@davindrachenberg8536]

They don't make cr500 anymore... Otherwise they would have made a yz800f...

[@xKrystenPandahx]

+Davin Drachenberg (SkolpisFilmsMC) They actually do make cr500's. check out service honda in Indiana, they make them.

[@davindrachenberg8536]

No they don't... Any cr500 you see is someone who took the engine from an old bike and put it into a new bikes body... The last one was made in 2001

[@Sydwayman]

I'm considering buying a relatively old (1980) 2 stroke enduro for commuting/trail riding. Has anyone on here had experience with a 2 stroke as a commuter and is it feasible?

[@StuffWithAlexGaming]

You know why you see so many two stroke fans on KZbin? Because the four stroke riders are out riding and enjoying life while the two smokers are inside looking up videos on how to fix melted pistons, destroyed reed valves, rebuild top and bottom ends, and they're also googling "Why does my dirt bike sound like a crappy weed eater"

[@mrbenpmuir]

I agree and disagree I always rode two strokes I now have a yz450 and hands down its a better bike to ride . more torque reliable so long as you have proper maintenance . on a not I also love two strokes as well . every bike has its place . but for a daily driver and bike to hit the tracks and trails and be comfortable its the 4stroke that wins .

[@StuffWithAlexGaming]

two strokes have their places in weed eaters and chainsaws. Other than that, they don't belong anywhere. Well, actually, 2 stroke 50s and 125s are pretty cool. But nothing bigger.

[@mrbenpmuir]

Yeah I understand your statement 125s are fun as fuck to muck about in and 500cc big bores are good desert bikes . but require top ends pretty fast .

[@mrbenpmuir]

I've got a 1986 cr500 a cr125 a dt175 a yz450 . all bikes are fun. Get out there and ride . a cr500af is king among bikes I'd love to hit up service Honda or build my own . one day

[@StuffWithAlexGaming]

We're all riders, two smokers or four thumpers, so just get along and stop all the hate... seriously, we all ride. How about you go hate on the noise or pollution complainers because our bikes aren't nearly as loud as cars and trucks going down the road (with their loud ass stereos and tires) and we don't pollute barely at all, certainly not as much as a car.

[@IacobucciB]

Different strokes for different folks, i guess. I like 2- strokes because they are just more fun overall. Just think of the high-pitched howl, the vibrating handlebars, and the flying dirt. They just make more of a good time for me, unless I'm in tifht woods, That's what low gearing is for, and I just can,t seem to find a bike perfect for my woods. It's super tight and nasty, and the high seat on my CR250 just makes a bit harder to get that foothold on the root you,re trying to get her over.

[@Gravel57g]

The final word to end the argument..............Maico 700.

[@ArturssonEngineering]

“It takes a more talented rider to race the two-stroke, and I can see where it would be difficult for most of the current 250 four-stroke riders to make the change.” True story by Roger DeCoster! I don't even know why anyone could think of comparing a 250 4stroke and a 250 2 stroke, they're not even in the same class.. One thing is for sure the 2 strokes got more HP per cm3 and harder to ride.

[@knightrider1545]

Is it true that 2 strokes don't like to be babied?

[@beefcake3131]

Yep, I've owned two 2 stroke bikes so far and they have been bullet proof with very little maintenance.

[@badrcraceteam2457]

Shouldn't 125 2stroke be with 250 4stroke and 250 2stroke be with a 450 4stroke

[@twag0735]

no, 250 v 250. 2 strokes no longer have the displacement handicap that they used too. 250 v 250, 500 v 450. long live the 2 stroke. ill choose my 03rm250 over my 07crf250 anyday!

[@balncobra]

Both bikes are awesome. I grew up on old yz80's and dt100's and didn't even know that four strokes existed back then. I like both bikes having ridden 2's and 4's now. But me personally, I get a bit bored without a powerband that tries to knock you off the bike ;)

[@jameslalonde277]

i'll ride anything with wheels 2 or 4 stoke and have fun doing it...no haten here...

[@miguelnava6497]

James Lalonde same

[@EdwinWebsterFilm]

@98ELSEY problem with that is the fuel demands when the powerband comes on, since there's always unburned fuel it's a little hard to get a reading off of the fumes to be correct. I'd rather jet my carb and have instant response than ride by wire and risk that much more money on repairs when it goes out

[@chainsawjohnny1339]

Ridding in deep woods, Putting along slowly and exploring, I take my 4stroke. It can let it idle while I move branches etc. , low end power is nice for slow ridding and stopping frequently in the woods and I dont worry about getting stranded with a fouled plug. BUT! if I'm going out to the track, hitting jumps, and actually trying to win races, 2stroke all day. plus the smell of premix burning is nice. haha

[@jameslalonde277]

agree 100% I share your knowledge and add 4 stroke to road riding to get to your favorite spot also..

[@LifeOnTheSkids]

Lap times? What were their lap times for each?

[@kurtmartin2580]

I will put my 2-stroke bike's up against any four stroke bike any day.

[@kristibutterflykirk1]

also, 2 strokes are a good bit lighter than 4 strokes because they dont have heads, a cam, valves, timing chain, they dont have as many parts, they dont have an oil pan, therefor they are a lot lighter and have a better power-to-weight ratio. Since they dont have oil in the crank case, you have to mix oil with the gas to lubricate the engine parts. Lubrication is crucial and since 4 strokes store oil in the crank case, they are typically more reliable

[@kx250fforlife]

This reporter is brutally awkward

[@joshrice2012]

@sargazmOG , 2 strokes are way higher compression. They put out more horsepower per cc. That's why until now, 125 2 strokes ran with 250 4 strokes and 250 2 strokes ran with 450 4 strokes.

[@HALO3286]

2 strokes for life! I race the open class on a 125 and I can beat 250f's any day. If you take away their inside line they have no advantage anymore.

[@Africanfrogs]

They the same thing. You don’t know jack squat

[@pillster95]

@Grim219mx its for the amateurs, some of them cant afford tuning for the 250f's, this can add up to $5000 alone on engine mods. its for the ones who cant afford it so they use a 250 2t which from what Ive heard is more or less like a tuned 250f.

[@macervel]

2 strokes 4 eva!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Josh_Wright992]

You can also just through a flywheel weight on the 250 2 stroke make it put power to the ground and track like a 4 stroke

[@whitmiller1822]

Hey, let's hear it for Yamaha for investing in their 2 - strokes again and coming out with a new bike that will compete with KTM. Did I mention it was a 2-stroke? When Yamaha made the announcement, I think a lot of strokers left a 4 - streak in their underwear. It's looking up again for 2-strokes. Too bad 4 - stroke riders will be in the garage fixing their bike and cleaning their underwear.

[@thedark6969]

bought my first bike last year, its a kx250f, now i cant wait to buy a yz250 and try one of those pre-mix beast! i think the AMA should consider changing rules to allow riders to choose between 2 and 4 stroke.

[@lancetofaute627]

2stoke all the way

[@newans123]

a new top end for a 250 is around 200 bucks with rings and gaskets . and my 2010 yamaha 50 got 110 hours on it and the valves did not move once out of specs

[@An-Éire]

well if ya not mixing gas you not hauling ass 2stroke all the way

[@Matt-dz6qn]

@Cj Sigfrid, a 250 2 stroke and a 250 4 stroke have 5hp difference so putting a 250 against a 450 would be unfair because the only thing they would do is get the holeshot

[@timteall9350]

you can't compare a 250 two stroke with a 250 four stroke

[@evanradke3605]

Why not? All the 4 stroke riders say that they're faster but when you put the same bikes side by side the two stroke will smoke it, literally. It can even keep up with the 450's depending on the riders.

[@TheBiker257]

i agree, i think that 2 strokes are simpler, but u can ride a 4stroke forever on 1 top end, 2strokes need to be rebuilt every 4 years and that's if you don't race, of course it depends on the engine size, because you are more likely to be wfo on a 125 than a 250 and up, therefore a smaller bore is easier to melt a piston

[@kadeanderson2979]

You know i used to ride a 2 stroke but i stopped riding them because they have way to much power.

[@fredc8618]

ibelieve you

[@garymckissick7092]

+mdo686 your probably riding it like a 4 stroke. 4ts have lots of power down low on a 2t you have to get the rpms high. If it doesn't go from bogging to just screaming all of a sudden like easy slow power then wam tons of power then your shifting to early or your jets are waaaay to rich

[@fredc8618]

mdo686 fuck yea!! Thats what i like to hear!

[@jessemacneil2723]

Im honestly torn between the two . the response of a four stroke seems so appealing but also listening to them bang off the rev limiter makes my pants move . but i also just like how simple and lite the 2 strokes are . Like what yeara of the 4 strokes are good ? Seems like everyone is going 4 now days .

[@bryancoleman9299]

2 strokes are way better because once that power band kicks in there gone and I have a Suzuki rm 80 and it beats 4 strokes and even though its an 80 its beaten 125 and 300s before

[@Accidentalouttake]

you are full of bullshit

[@bryancoleman9299]

Aoo96 u mad because its true

[@Accidentalouttake]

hahaha naah im just laughing of your incompitence... your fucking stupid, how can a 18 hp small piece of shit beat a bike with 40 hp wheres your common sence?

[@fredgarvinMP]

Good video...how were the lap times?

[@brandonbell2444]

Rich kids and their 4 strokes...

[@aztwotwo]

Sorry for this question but i am new, what is the difference with 2 and 4 strokes. They maybe said it in the video but i didn't watch it.

[@hiddokramer]

good old 2-stroke love it fuck 4-stroke

[@hheadache]

4 strokes have valves and oil filters? how do they have less maintenance?

[@AntonioMadera]

6:41 gay moment?

[@iownthemountains]

@TheBiker257 yes but topends are cheap. lol and you save for it in lack of oil changes. then you need to adjust your 4 strokes valves n stuff whether youre hard on it or not. i like both for specific reasons though. :)

[@joelcr250]

Braap ? ......... that is the question.

[@kristibutterflykirk1]

2 strokes are usually good motors depending on who makes them, its just that 4 stroke are typically more reliable. The only form of riding I would (personally) want a 2 stroke bike for would be motocross/supercross racing. Or freestyle stunts. Anything other than that i would prefer a 4 stroke. Anything from trail riding with friends to enduro/baja racing i would personally prefer a 4 stroke.

[@sethburcham7185]

This is so unbeleivable a 250 four stroke stock is around 35 horsepower dependent on the make and model, a 250 two stroke is more around 50 horsepower dependent on the make and model this is no comparison, this is utter bull shit obviously any person with a brain would pic a bike with more horsepower in a class ruled by 250 four strokes, the 250 two stroke will most likley always have the better lap time and own the track over a 250 four stroke.

[@jeremylambdin7005]

You are right. apparently they do not know that the 250 4 stroke replaced the 125 2 stroke and same with the bigger bikes. I own both a 2 stroke 125 and 4 stroke 250 and its just according to what kind of track you are riding on.

[@cfvgd]

WTF is this? how can you even compare those two? Learn about engines and learn how they differ. 250 two stroke is as strong as a 450f. This is just a really weird video.. and the comments are.. ..

[@keiannschyler]

hahahah! this is for people who know nothing about internal combustion engines. for people who are lazy enough to do some research about engines.

[@lespaulbeauty]

what is a rev limiter?? sorry i know its a real stupid question? i also have a 250f> great bike

[@dukecat3888]

its so obvious that a 2 stroke is faster....... there is no argument..... you need a 450 to keep up, so I just don't know how anyone can tell themselves that a 4 stoke is faster? makes no sense? pound for pound two stroke all the way!!!!!!! all day!!!!! just sayin................

[@zxMRxNINJAxz]

Yeah but 450s are fucked when someone has a 500 :)

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

***** of course they would be....for one its another 50 cc and its WAY lighter with more HP. Thats obviously why the 2 stroke 250ccs ride with the 4 strole 450s. thats not even a fair comparison

[@verttisyrjala]

seth newman soo true.

[@coltonnichols5566]

getting a 97 cr250. good bike or not?

[@cokedout_2909]

theyre comparing the wrong bikes, they should be comparing a 125 two stroke wit a 250 four stroke

[@davidilott1319]

What were the lap times , and correct me if im wrong but they wont let you ride a 250 2/ in the 250 class .

[@duckzbuckz365]

@ReactionRacingN2 it is still considered stock if u got a pipe on it... stock class u can have a pipe

[@greghunter5966]

the crazy thing is that the 2 stroke YZ still has old frame and suspension technology. I know it's not a ton different but it shows what it can do. If guys like that start riding them at the national level the tech will get better

[@LivinTheDream325]

Honestly I've owned both a 2t and 4t and its all about personal preference. Riding style plays a big part in it. I prefer a 2t because I just feel faster and lighter on a 2t. Just personal preference though.

[@jhlozada]

I think is up to the rider. Good riders can use 2 or 4 strokes. Just get the maximum of the power band I ride 450 XC-W. Full happy with it, little bit heavy but powerful I would say something like: 300 XC trials into the mountains. Lighter and aggressive response 350 XC for training in a MX track. Good control, easy to handle. Smooth power 450 XC-W for long enduro trials. Comfortable to ride. Smooth power Nothing against 2-4 strokes, loving motorbikes. "Keep riding guys and enjoy your bike"

[@stainedinblack]

I wonder if we are going to see direct injection 2strokes that put out less/equal emissions to the 4strokes.

[@792bnz]

my cousin and i purchased scooters last spring. he got a 2012 zuma 50f(4stroke) and i got a 08 zuma 50(2stroke), both 49cc. my scoot has a slightly better top speed and much better acceleration. after dusting off mu cuz, i did major mods on the scoot, parts and labor was just under $1,500. it went from a 40mph(top speed) to a 60mph scoot and i can now cruise between 40 and 45mph.

[@fxdayjob2236]

Exactly. Why are they even talking about this? Why would the AMA allow 250 2 strokes to race in the Lites class. Doesn't make sense.

[@bluegull1541]

I'm 210 # 50 yr. old getting back to amateur MX. 250 2 stroke or 450 4stroke???Mid pack B rider at the height of my career.

[@dr.x4050]

Which did you pick? I may get a 250 4-stroke since I don't race.

[@Owningya]

u can tune a carbi to be as responsive as a fuel injected bike, the fi just adds weight for example on the yz250f

[@Crake13]

i havnt watched the full video yet, but how is this fare the 250 two stroke is made to compare against a 450f and a 125 two stroke compares against the 250f, seems odd putting a 250 two stroke vs a 250f

[@RickyNelson0]

The rapid power you get once you hit the power band in a 2 stroke is just awesome, but a 4 stroke is more predictable and controllable, no doubt cc for cc a 2 stroke is better all around. Personally I own a YZ250F, but I don't race, I ride, and many public riding areas have restrictions on 2 strokes and I didn't want to be limited in where I can ride. And being a long time streetbiker I'm just more accustomed to engine braking more often then ever using the actual brakes.

[@SarqazmOG]

Why ? Im new to MX and just curious to what you said ?

[@mammothborderDC]

no matter what you like, its always fun to get back on a 2 stroke and mess around.

[@nitrorcfreak100]

WHAT YEAR WAS IT MADE

[@rgp205]

try like 4 seconds...which really is a huge difference. and are you saying that them on the 250 2 stroke would beat the 250fs?

[@MrTmel123]

2-stroke is lighter for sure. But anymore, I think the latest 4-strokes are probably about as fast as a 2-stroke (of the same cc size), and definitely more low down torque. Plus, I think company's are probably putting more time and money into the 4-strokes, since they are more popular now.

[@86klovell]

Wait they are racing 250 2 strokes vs 250 4 strokes? They used to race 125 2 strokes in the 250f class. someone clarify this for me please

[@rczzcool234]

ya that is very unfair for the 250f

[@Beaukx250]

How much is a new 250 two stroke

[@harryscrotum007]

T bakers smile at 7:30 says it all when he asks him.

[@IAmaGamer45]

my 69 stroke yamahondasaki just got rebuilt, so i was riding it and my back tire tube got a hole in it, so i got a new one and set the psi to -14 psi, and it still dosent want to stay deflated.....should i put hamburger patties in my tire or no? oh and if you paddling upsteain a canoe and your wheels fall off, how many pancakes does it take to shingle a doghouse?

[@nitrorcfreak100]

WHAT YEAR IS IT

[@flyracing730]

i like them both, theres nothing wrong with either of them. i ride a 250 four stroke but ive also ridden a 85, 125, and 250 two stroke and all of them were good. like you said its personal preference

[@off-roadbrasil2623]

hello, can I use the video on my youtube channel? thank you... I'm from Brazil

[@SPATT263]

what did you do to it then?

[@franciscogardening]

I learned on a 230 4t, when i got my first 125 2t it wasnt going back so i jumped on a 250 2t. It all depends on your riding skills and needs. I only like 4ts in the woods.

[@crazyvideos616]

i was on a road trip with my friend on my wr 989. and on my way to NJ, my defibulator hit my reverse coffee grinder thus making a terrible noise as i went over trey canards quadripple in reverse.

[@BECKTECH05]

Yeah i know man, just didnt come into my head at the time, I wish they all still made 2strokes

[@christopherstapleton2550]

Why so much hate between 4 and 2 strokes? Why can't we team up against the common enemy, quads

[@SilverEagle75]

Lol they do make a 450 2 stroke. And like a lot of other people have said its rider preference. I personally like 2 smokers waaaaay more then a 4 stroke. The powerband is unbelievable. But I would definitely rather have a 4 stroke for trail riding on rocks. They both have pro's and cons. 2 strokes are cheaper to buy and maintain, but 4 strokes are less maintenance.

[@jakecastellucci1120]

My kx 2 stroke is a 94 had it for five years never touched the motor still starts in 1 kick its all about what you mix your gas to and your jetting

[@jasonneal]

I like both, but i prefer 2 stroke when i want to just out rite fucken eat it up, the 4 stroke is heavy and slower, but is alot better for trail riding and mud bogging. it has better low end power. i think they should have a 2 stroke class and a separate 4 stroke class. i don't think its a fair match up to put the 250 2stroke with the 450 4stroke

[@aaroncordova8287]

I own a 250f but damn you gotta love that 2 stroke power band

[@rawrayray33]

this shouldn't even be a question. if they want two strokes to compete against 250fs then maybe the big four should take the route that ktm took and basically bore out the 125 to a 150 or so. I understand the cost and logistics it would take to research and develop a whole new bike but if the ama or fim or whoever want 2 strokes to remain competitive, throwing a 250 smoker into the lites class is just unfair. what's next, a 450 2 stroke?

[@jbog90]

Totally the same except for about a 200cc difference! Two strokes are lighter,harder to handle, easier to work on, and cheaper to upgrade. I like both, but I prefer 2 strokes, but more importantly I like anything with two wheels and a motor. Especially if it's in the dirt.

[@DRZSuzook]

emissions had a part in it, but the biggest reason for going to big bore four strokes is the power delivery. Which one is easier to ride for a 30 minute moto, balls to the wall? A 450 thumper or a 250 pinger? You can go just as fast on the 450, but with smoother power delivery and more power throughout the powerband. BUT...IMO...2 strokes are still funner to ride. But whatever you ride...just stop arguing...just get on it and RIDE!!

[@MrTmel123]

Do you know what you're talking about? lol. It's snappier once it is in it's power band. But not at lower rpms. A 2-stroke does have fewer engine parts, but that doesn't necessarily mean the engine will last longer. They don't last as long because they don't have an oil system that lubricates the crankshaft, rod, etc., which is why you mix oil in gas to cure some of that problem, but doesn't work as well as a 4-stroke. In MY opinion, 4-strokes sound better.