2 Studio Essential Synths You Need To Hear! - Sequential Prophet-10 Vs Moog One

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Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech

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@jessejarrar
@jessejarrar 3 жыл бұрын
Taking a 5 hour road trip for a prophet 10 this weekend. I'm bubbling over with excitement!
@lecanardaimeLAKland
@lecanardaimeLAKland 3 жыл бұрын
Blessed to have both and both have their own characteristics that differentiate them from each other! I can’t choose one over another!
@jfracine_composition
@jfracine_composition 2 жыл бұрын
Hi ! I'm actively looking to buy a One, but the only thing that pulls me back a bit is the tuning issues. Have you had problems with it ? Thanks a lot !
@MotorHolmes
@MotorHolmes Жыл бұрын
The Moog One has the specs of an absolute dream rig, but I so infrequently hear it sounding like a dream rig.
@E-1K
@E-1K 2 жыл бұрын
I think Prophets might be my #1 favourite analog synth. Just so epic. Idk what Dave Smith did so very right.... a 100% fantastic job.
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 ай бұрын
it’s got the best name also.
@franknobel4715
@franknobel4715 3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that you enjoy show casing your improvisation skills on the keys as much as the synthesizers themselves makes these videos amazing. Just jamming like anyone would in a session! live it
@KeithTrigwell
@KeithTrigwell 3 жыл бұрын
It a great video idea but these are very different beasts from the two leading manufacturers. The Prophet 5\10 is a very well considered reissue of an old, very well regarded classic musical instrument. It is so well created in fact that the 5 (or 10) sits beautifully next to the 6. Hence it being mono. It’s all about it’s legitimacy as a re-issue. The Moog One however is an execution of modern leading edge analogue technology, producing probably the most powerful analogue poly to date. An exceptional synth. Astonishing in fact. So, “Studio centrepiece” wise, if someone’s going to pull the trigger on one of these it very much depends on the type of thing they do and where their interests lie. If it’s recreating those classic sounds, the 10 all day long. If it’s to get the widest palette, maybe for a sound designer pushing the limit, then the One. They are so different in fact, you can justify both. They can co exist. Both utterly superb companies.
@christopherklein4203
@christopherklein4203 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it! I have both and I couldn’t break it down any better than this.
@KeithTrigwell
@KeithTrigwell 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherklein4203 you have no ideas how jealous I am 😂. I’ve had the Prophet 6 a few months after launch and adore it. But I don’t have the funds for either of these. Not until my publisher lands something g juicy.
@christopherklein4203
@christopherklein4203 3 жыл бұрын
@@KeithTrigwell Hey, the Prophet 6 is an incredible synth. I have been collecting synths for years and to be real... I love the the Prophet 5/10, but I still don’t know if I prefer those sounds over the Prophet 6 sounds. I think you may feel the same if you get a chance to play one. But the Moog one is something else entirely. If you can afford to save up for one and have that and the Prophet 6, or just have the Moog One by itself I think you would be set for life. Haha. Prophet 6 is amazing for performing tho if you happen to gig. The Moog one and the Prophet 5/10 is too big to drag around. :)
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 3 жыл бұрын
@@KeithTrigwell Same here. The Prophet-6 has been underrated by a lot of people since its launch because it isn't a Prophet-5. It has beautiful tone. I think the Prophet-10 here sounds just a bit different from the 6 but not so very much. For me here the P10 kills the Moog One but maybe it's just the patch programming. The first few M1 sounds are very mundane until 12:30 where the M1 Sounds a bit like the OB-6.
@TinnyBashing
@TinnyBashing 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Moog is the presets aren't very good. To extract the beautiful sonic glory of the ONE you have to create the sounds yourself. I've found that i've been able to create some very classic sounding patches myself but of course you have to have an understanding of how they were made in the first place.
@RIP_Milhouse
@RIP_Milhouse 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight. And if somebody does not have such an understanding... They have no business spending 10k on a machine like it 🤣
@juniorvicepresidentofzimba4946
@juniorvicepresidentofzimba4946 2 жыл бұрын
Yep this is my experience too.
@DrChopz
@DrChopz 2 жыл бұрын
True. Most of the Moog One’s presets are a bit flat. But, with some effort fantastic patches are achievable.
@mrdali67
@mrdali67 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, its not much different from other synths, brand new uptodate ones or old vintage ones. The Prophet's patches not that great either. just as most other synths. It's all up to the user to design interesting sounds or buy some killer patches from people that have the imagination (and time) learning to use the synth. Most synths I have owned first shines when you start making sounds yourself. If I had the money for the Prophet 10 or Moog One 8 to use live without any outboard gear, I'd go for the Moog as it have much more possibilities to sound "big" without any extra effects. But then again .. if you have the money to even considder a Moog One, you propably have enough to buy what ever extra effect gear you want 😅 Both are amazing synths if you can use them to their full potential .. just like most other keyboards. If you can only play very simple stuff or don't have the knowledge to program them why bother... Not all the best keyboard gear is gonna make you a better player 🙂
@mitsanut5869
@mitsanut5869 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrdali67 True. But the high quality vgear will help you in making better sounding music and, what's more important, can inspire your mind through the sound it can generate.
@seanchristophersynthesizer6999
@seanchristophersynthesizer6999 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve previously owned a Moog One, but got rid of it. I am definitely picking up. Prophet10 though, because every demo I have head from it has really impressed me.....and it doesn’t have an annoying fan noise like the Moog One does.
@ryanmelvey8764
@ryanmelvey8764 3 жыл бұрын
like this comparison idea! :D i hope we keep getting more monster poly's
@jeffjfindley4802
@jeffjfindley4802 11 ай бұрын
I've recently convinced myself that the Prophet (5, 6, 10, whatever) is the top of the heap.
@Sicolirics
@Sicolirics Жыл бұрын
This is where you can see the beautiful darkness of a Moog One 13:55, always oriented towards mids and bass, the Prophet 10 is more metallic, I like the sound of the One better, it shakes you to the bottom of your heart 😍
@thomasayres8440
@thomasayres8440 3 жыл бұрын
man...PLEASE RECORD a synth only album...this was GREAT
@TheNicoDavis
@TheNicoDavis 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't know which synth I prefer more they both have some absolutely gorgeous patches and others not my cup of tea. My dream setup is both of them and a nord stage 3
@gergokovacs3332
@gergokovacs3332 3 жыл бұрын
I understand maybe the synths. But when it came to workstation, please consider Kurzweil Forte SE. This is purely subjective, but to me Kurzweil sound better to me in every
@gergokovacs3332
@gergokovacs3332 3 жыл бұрын
... sound I use. Beautiful Piano, killer Clavinet and Rhodes samples. Plus ttge KB3 organ ....
@mmhcreates
@mmhcreates 3 жыл бұрын
Poetically put.
@mathieusavoie8822
@mathieusavoie8822 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go NS3-88, Prophet 10 rev4, Subsequent 37 and Arturia Polybrute!
@mytwosynths1747
@mytwosynths1747 3 жыл бұрын
ultimately they would compliment each other very well. really enjoyed your playing, think it showed the synths off quite well
@magicknight8412
@magicknight8412 3 жыл бұрын
always got a soft spot for the Prophet.
@KNHSynths
@KNHSynths 3 жыл бұрын
Prophet is a reissue; we all have its sound somewhere in our head. The Moog One is a new machine, thought to be used today by today's musicians creating today's music. I don't feel you can compare them just because they are very expensive flag ships. They are two different beasts. The Moog One has a very wide range of sounds and will fit any serious sound designer needs. The P10 is speaking to our heart more than to our brain. It sounded perfect a long ago, it sounds perfect today because more than being fabulous on itself it has the sound of our memories. Both machines are magical and prove their creators are genius. So ... if you have the money for one you've good for both, buy both and live long and prosper ! :-) The question is "if you can take only one, which one you'll take ?". If you think with your heart, it will be the P10, if you think with your brain, it will be the M1 !
@anoniconoclast2030
@anoniconoclast2030 3 жыл бұрын
Not a re-issue. It's a new rev.
@KNHSynths
@KNHSynths 3 жыл бұрын
@@anoniconoclast2030 All reissues can be called "new rev", it is just a subjective point of view, don't you think?
@anoniconoclast2030
@anoniconoclast2030 3 жыл бұрын
@@KNHSynths It sounds awesome and that's the most important aspect to me.
@christopherklein4203
@christopherklein4203 3 жыл бұрын
I have both. Moog one is my all time fav synth next to the my Electric Blue Voyager. You can do whatever you want with the one. Its a complete “modern” synth but if you wanna get it vintage sounding you can program it to behave that way. The depth of how you can program it to sound like whatever you’re picturing is the magic about it. The versatility is amazing when you start adding beautiful eventide effects to it. The most fun synth to record with. That’s for sure. The Prophet 10 has that 80’s horror movie sound tho which is my thing. It’s does the vintage John Carpenter thing right out the box. And I LOVE the presets. It does all the old school 80’s sounds you heard on all those classic records. Great to perform and records with.
@esmoroglu
@esmoroglu 3 жыл бұрын
Most dense beautiful synth sounds video ever!👏🏻👏🏻👋🏼
@JamesRamboPearce
@JamesRamboPearce 3 жыл бұрын
Pure fatness from the Proph 10 - ooompfff!
@michaelpierce3264
@michaelpierce3264 3 жыл бұрын
bottom line is you want vintage analog tones the prophet if you want modern and deep sound exploration the moog
@marzzz1
@marzzz1 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I am still waiting for the Moog Two.
@entropybentwhistle
@entropybentwhistle 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a stable version of the MemoryMoog and in the Prophet price range.
@Phil-1
@Phil-1 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Maybe one layer instead of three, elements from the Matriarch. And half the price.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 3 жыл бұрын
@@Phil-1 keep dreaming.
@CLaw-tb5gg
@CLaw-tb5gg 3 жыл бұрын
@@entropybentwhistle yes! The world badly needs a MemoryMoog reissue.
@shredfantom
@shredfantom 2 жыл бұрын
That’s coming out after the XBOX TWO X.
@orange5718
@orange5718 3 жыл бұрын
so blind tested each one of these demos and tallied up which patches I like weighted by how much I liked them. I think for me the Moog was the clear winner, though the prophet didn't go down without a fight
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, it better cause it does cost twice the amount
@francescodefendi3201
@francescodefendi3201 3 жыл бұрын
Probably I’ll never buy one of these instruments (😔) but I love these sounds and Jack’s playing..so I stay here; thanks mate! 👏🏼👍🏼🤘🏼
@geecen
@geecen 3 жыл бұрын
Prophet sounds more old school, the moog one more modern. I think the one is probably more versatile, but at the same time, it is probably something that is easier to replicate with other digital or vst synths.
@joshjamesuk
@joshjamesuk 3 жыл бұрын
The real question is will Tay Tay ever call out a sharp/flat key?
@Tailphelps
@Tailphelps 3 жыл бұрын
Realised that while I was editing this...haha next time!
@PeteKowalsky
@PeteKowalsky 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tailphelps Yeah I was wondering! I'm looking for a style in there too - like "E Flat Minor, Dorian" ;) Or something completely unexpected LOL...
@jackduxbury1632
@jackduxbury1632 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 Good point!!! Xx
@varde6965
@varde6965 3 жыл бұрын
The sounds of the Prophet is way more inspirational IMO. At least in this demo.
@JamesCorbettMusic5000
@JamesCorbettMusic5000 Жыл бұрын
Prophet 10 is the best synth I’ve ever played and owned
@bassnsax
@bassnsax 3 жыл бұрын
Previously, I've balked at the pricing of these two synths. Now I understand why Sequential and Moog have these priced the way they are. They are beautiful instruments (and will always be out of reach for me).
@mmhcreates
@mmhcreates 3 жыл бұрын
Not always. Keep the music with you, and it will come. If I get rich, I will buy you one.
@superprim12
@superprim12 3 жыл бұрын
MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!! been there.....
@mississippijohnfahey7175
@mississippijohnfahey7175 2 жыл бұрын
Get a Rev2. 16 voices, endless modulation, stereo, doesn't need a fan to cool it down
@terrapinsounds9352
@terrapinsounds9352 Жыл бұрын
@@mississippijohnfahey7175 the Prophet 10 rev4 doesn't have a fan, it doesn't need one anymore
@mississippijohnfahey7175
@mississippijohnfahey7175 Жыл бұрын
@@terrapinsounds9352 true! I was thinking of the moog one. I would love a Pro 10, but I I've got Rev2 money lol... plus those 6 extra voices often come in handy
@travis8828
@travis8828 3 жыл бұрын
The Prophet 10 sounds amazing. As a Moog One 16 Voice owner, I do think he should have compaired that one even though the price is higher.
@chandeleerjet5637
@chandeleerjet5637 2 жыл бұрын
Is the only difference being able to play 10 note chords supposed to 8? I know it’s a dumb question but I’m looking at a 16 voice tomorrow and wondering if I should try an 8 instead. Mainly doing stuff that will have vocals.
@SupperWithSteve
@SupperWithSteve Ай бұрын
Thanks for this bad ass video brother, you really know how to play well!
@MrRayinsf
@MrRayinsf 3 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with any of these. I have the One and love it. Endless possibilities. It is super rich sounding. Don't let the demos fool you. Check out Lisa Bella Donna for some deeper sounds from Moog One. It is the kind of synth you want to sip whiskey and stay up late with. But I am also a fan of Prophets. I have the Prophet X and 12. I now want the 10.
@xntricity6446
@xntricity6446 2 жыл бұрын
How does one afford so many synths
@jfracine_composition
@jfracine_composition 2 жыл бұрын
Sipping whiskey with a One sounds like an incredible plan ! I'm looking to buy one soon, but I'm a bit pulled back by the tuning issues people are talking about. Have you had any ? Thanks a lot !
@MrRayinsf
@MrRayinsf 2 жыл бұрын
@@jfracine_composition No issues, but honestly I do not go too deep. I don't have the time to do much sound design (full-time teacher/ Dad). There was one time when it froze, but I turned it on and off and it was fixed. Maybe I just got a good batch.
@franciscocornejo2932
@franciscocornejo2932 Жыл бұрын
​@@jfracine_compositiontengo Nelson moog one 16 y suena increíble puedes hacer casi cualquier sonido se sintetizador vintage y nuevo es muy profundo, excelente compra además tengo el prophet 10 hermoso
@77advanced
@77advanced 3 жыл бұрын
It's about how a massive synth can sound thin (thanks to the effects) and dry mono synth can be more 3d)
@BecomingProductions
@BecomingProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Mono synth?
@77advanced
@77advanced 3 жыл бұрын
​@@BecomingProductions yes, prophet has mono audio output. But of course it has 10 voice polyphony.)
@thedarkestrainbow
@thedarkestrainbow 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard the Moog One sounds fantastic. But those were not the factory patches. I do thing the raw sound of the P10 is beefier than the One though. When I’ve sat with the One and started from init I remember feeling like it didn’t have as much beef as I’d like. The Minimoog right next to it sounded glorious. The P10 has that presence right from the start. Of course the One is vastly more complex than the P10. But I’m finding as I grow as a synthesist and player I don’t need all the bells and whistles and would rather something that just sounds amazing.
@BecomingProductions
@BecomingProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@77advanced Mono in the sense of stereo field. Im sure you know mono synth typically means something else.
@PitchAccurate
@PitchAccurate 3 жыл бұрын
@@BecomingProductions perhaps you’re referring to monophonic?
@zoomzoom3950
@zoomzoom3950 3 жыл бұрын
Moog One vs Prophet 10? Tough choice. Both. Should be the only correct answer. IMO
@entropybentwhistle
@entropybentwhistle 3 жыл бұрын
I had the money to get a Moog One when they first came out then saw the rollout troubles they had and ended up getting a bunch of much needed new wiring and effects, 2 smaller synths (Deep Mind and Prologue) and a Tascam porta-studio for Dawless moments, all for the same money. When the Prophet 10 was announced I jumped all over that because it’s legendary. But I still have a slot open to get a Moog One, unless Tom Oberheim announces a flagship poly before then.
@zoomzoom3950
@zoomzoom3950 3 жыл бұрын
@@entropybentwhistle I'd rather have a Hammond, I have the SKx, got the A-3 Heritage, and have a vintage A-102 being delivered in a few weeks. Cheers!
@SpacehotelMusic
@SpacehotelMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Prophet 10, if sound is your priority. no contest. Mine is incoming.
@apersonontheinternet8034
@apersonontheinternet8034 3 жыл бұрын
Neither? OB6 beats them both hands down. Use your spare chage to get a Summit too and you can laugh your ass off at anyone with a Moog One.
@zoomzoom3950
@zoomzoom3950 3 жыл бұрын
After 8 months since my OP, I've discovered the correct answer is Analogue Solutions Colossus. I can dream can't I? ;) Worth a look and listen if you've never heard of it.
@Synthshop
@Synthshop 3 жыл бұрын
I have an idea what synth you used on the outro, but what did the effects?
@user-cv8ud8qo9f
@user-cv8ud8qo9f 3 жыл бұрын
For me it'd be the P10 every day ... the Moog is a nicer piece of furniture but in most of the demos it either sounds like a video game or a mushy wash that might work on it's own ... but in a song? not so much ... I do think the Prophet would sit in the mix a lot better .... So I'd get that and a mono Moog for leads and basses and likely still have change!
@seamusmaguire2160
@seamusmaguire2160 3 жыл бұрын
I agree - its the reason why the Prophet 5 was a staple all over 80s synthesizer music. It sits so amazingly in the mix with little effort
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 3 жыл бұрын
There is a brittleness in sound to this smd tech that can't be denied , owning the original prophet 5 and 600 , i bet the innards of that prophet 10 in a rackmount could retail for 1000 usd , the rest is windowdressing , its like apple putting pc's into anodized caseing, by the way the prices of vintage examples are totally nuts so modern alternatives are welcome
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 3 жыл бұрын
@@cnfuzz i own both a rev 3 & rev 4 Prophet. They sound the same. The 4 is much better in a lot of ways. Fatar, velocity, AT, MIDI, 2 sets of filters.
@final_mile_music9713
@final_mile_music9713 3 жыл бұрын
Moog one all the way...for me at least. But then I want the timbre and tone but not to sound like 1975. That said, the 10 is lovely. I love the simplicity. It’s classic in every way,. Personally, I could have bought either, but went with a blended set up....a Subsequent 37 with an empress reverb, a Sequential Pro 3 Special Edition with a Strymon Nightsky, a Moog matriarch with a strymon big sky, and the poly stuff is delivered via my computer: Omnisphere, Arturia V8, Pigments, and FX collection, Spitfire Audio, Keyscape, NI Komplete, the full Output package etc.... played with an NI S88 mk2. All that for the price of a Moog one 16......
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a real poly though. VST’s don’t come close
@ryanstewart5352
@ryanstewart5352 3 жыл бұрын
No contest... the prophet sounds like magic, the moog sounds like something you'd have to wrestle with to make work
@pablumpicasso9207
@pablumpicasso9207 3 жыл бұрын
Own a P10 now and had a Moog One until a few months ago. This is pretty spot on! The Prophet is all sweet spot. With most Moogs, overdriving the filter can get interesting results, but on the Moog One, patches could sound like mud if you crank up the mixer levels too high. It also lacked the fat low end of a Voyager or even Grandmother.
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 3 жыл бұрын
What exactly do you mean "wrestle with"?
@ryanstewart5352
@ryanstewart5352 3 жыл бұрын
@@gasolineandwine Tweak knobs, add fx, fight with it, until you find something usable... Whereas the P10 is a giant sweet spot.
@vincewizz8534
@vincewizz8534 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanstewart5352 I have one and don’t need to fight at all :) You just need to know how to use it . I usually say: the One is only as good as you can program it :) And it takes me only 1 minute to dial in per-voice modulation as the Prophet’s Vintage knob. But if you know your way you can go much further. Of course if you are not into programming the Prophet is obviously a better choice for you
@ryanmelvey8764
@ryanmelvey8764 3 жыл бұрын
prophet seems more musical!
@danfan4707
@danfan4707 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t choose… so one of each it is!
@denzilstudios7072
@denzilstudios7072 2 жыл бұрын
Moog One is the winner to my ears. It has more complexity and depth + i like the top end sizzle in the filter a bit more.
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 ай бұрын
better keybed also, and layout of course
@echoloch500
@echoloch500 3 жыл бұрын
I went with the Prophet 10 because... I like 3340 VCOs, every synth I've fallen in love with used them. I prefer the classic look and layout over the Moog ONE. With the Prophet 10 I'm getting 2 more voices, 2 classic 4 pole filters and costs less than a Moog ONE 8 voice. The sound.. I want to make John Carpenter like sounds so the choice was pretty clear. Is the Moog ONE bad? I doubt it, its a Moog ffs! The Prophet 10 just fits my personality way better.
@echoloch500
@echoloch500 3 жыл бұрын
@Uncinematographable Screenshot Cinema Awe sorry you couldn't connect with your Prophet :(
@Underview
@Underview 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. The prophet has that grittier high end that would suit that type of sound.
@CLaw-tb5gg
@CLaw-tb5gg 3 жыл бұрын
Prophet for me. Because, paradoxically, it sounds more Moogy. But: I mean, I'm sure people wanted the purity of the original, but I really would have liked an arp/sequencer on there.
@cardoman3986
@cardoman3986 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes bruh your licks are pure fire.... (chefs kiss)
@ryanmelvey8764
@ryanmelvey8764 3 жыл бұрын
you can feel Jack connecting with the Prophet effortlessly. the Moog is fighting with him! no contest
@brianschiller4053
@brianschiller4053 Жыл бұрын
I ended up with a Prophet 5. I don’t need a lot of the extra options/features the Moog One has. They both sound excellent though, I don’t think you can go wrong with either.
@obwanz1921
@obwanz1921 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I’m an Oberheim guy, but I came for the fuckin Jack Duxbury jamz! Killin it as per usual my man!
@ConstantinPhillipou
@ConstantinPhillipou 2 жыл бұрын
My two favorites after the cs80. Love your happy energy!
@gr3g0r5
@gr3g0r5 3 жыл бұрын
idk both are great obviously but the prophet somehow seems so much more musical. The moog one aleays makes me think film score
@directed6924
@directed6924 2 жыл бұрын
Prophet-10 no contest. Perfect looks, perfect sound.
@leopardtuesday8140
@leopardtuesday8140 2 жыл бұрын
The Prophet 10 made the Moog sound like a toy haha.
@MrNot4saken
@MrNot4saken Жыл бұрын
Prefer the sound of the Prophet out of the Box but the features of the Moog make it a difficult choice great playing
@MrNot4saken
@MrNot4saken Жыл бұрын
Features of Editing & Effects
@nickhaldin8674
@nickhaldin8674 Жыл бұрын
The moog one is a perfect example of more does not equal better. I’ve just always loved the sound of the prophets so much more. Having played a moog one at the moog store in asheville, i was not wowed as so many others seem to be. Maybe its because the price overshadows it’s capabilities for me. What i hear from it most certainly isn’t worth the 8k or whatever ridiculous asking price it is nowadays. The prophet 5/10 on the other hand has that sound ive always loved which is why i bought one. And its fairly reasonably priced when you compare it to the moog one
@ClemensWennersMusic
@ClemensWennersMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Tayler: A Jack: *proceeds to play in Am
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 3 жыл бұрын
Same with B!
@VexylObby
@VexylObby 7 ай бұрын
I would have chosen a scale in mind while asking for the letter. But the fact it was in A minor makes for a funny coincidence.
@mystscot9814
@mystscot9814 3 жыл бұрын
Jack's Back!!!
@SpacehotelMusic
@SpacehotelMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Prophet 10 gets my money... it's all about the sound, not features. The Moog One's tone has left me cold since day one (preferred my Korg Prologue 16 and OB-6 over the Moog one so it stands no chance against the glorious Prophet 5/10 Rev 4!)
@northern_kind
@northern_kind Жыл бұрын
When I got my Moog One, I nearly sent it straight back as I thought I had a dud. The preset volumes vary massively and as you walk through them, if they have effects you get some weird noise in the buffer from the previous sound. It was positioned as a platform to build on, yet all they’ve done is fix all the initial bugs. However, it’s a chameleon of a synth and can sound like anything. I’m fortunate to also have a Prophet 5 Rev 4. I wouldn’t trade either of them and with the announcement today of Moog Asheville closing I’m glad I’ve got a US built Moog. I hope they plough some investment into the Moog One software
@Fallingoverbackwards
@Fallingoverbackwards 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!!
@pgpete
@pgpete 2 жыл бұрын
The Moog isnt bad - but it's no Prophet 10 !
@emptyfame7141
@emptyfame7141 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect video! We'd love a follow up. This should be its own subseries
@raffaelesantabarbara1449
@raffaelesantabarbara1449 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I’m saying this… but the prophet 10, at least for what I’ve watched in this video, killed it! And it’s cheaper? 🤯
@rixcom7621
@rixcom7621 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! I have both P10 and Moog One 16V. You should play more patches. These really don't give too much expression to the both instrument's capabilities. Yes, I fall into your category of having too much money to spend on this stuff. It's an addiction so I have to work extra hard to afford it. LOL
@christopherklein4203
@christopherklein4203 3 жыл бұрын
@TheRustyPeppers I have Both. Imo, what you can program on the Moog one is so out there and you can continually find new sounds the more time you spend on it. It feels never ending as far as the sounds that can come out of it. You can even make it sound vintage as well. Prophet 10 has that glorious Vintage sound, but for me the Moog one would be the one If I could only keep one. Ha ;)
@christopherklein4203
@christopherklein4203 3 жыл бұрын
@TheRustyPeppers Hey, if that’s the feeling you get when you play it, than maybe it’s not for you. Every time I turn it on I understand exactly why it costs what it does after I’ve created something magical with it. I can create a patch in a few minutes (not an hour) that’s unlike anything I’ve ever heard before. No other synth I own I get that same feeling. Almost every time I try to creating a sound from my mind, I end up creating something awesome that I didn’t mean to create. The patches I’ve been able to make are some of my favorite sounds I’ve ever created on any synth. Now, don’t get me wrong, Prophet 10 does some amazing vintage sounds, but I still don’t even know if I like the sounds better than what I can get out of my Prophet 6 to be honest. And I payed 2500 for my Prophet 6 which is considerably less than my Prophet 10. And I really don’t think you can say any well made synth just “sounds better” than any other high quality synth. That’s a completely subjective thing. What I believe you’re paying for with the Moog one is the million things it can do. The eventide effects of comes with, all the mods, the sound design aspect you can fall into so easily, even the keys are my fav from any synth I own. It’s pretty much a perfect synth and whether you’re wanting a fat bass patch, pad sounds, or creepy horror music stuff for a soundtrack it can do it all. It’s the one synth where I feel like you’ll continually evolve with it as years go by. And it still has that Moog sound. Now I don’t know if it’s perfect for everyone. Maybe it’s too overwhelming and it can do too much for some musicians. But yeah, I play my Moog One considerably more than my Prophet 10. I record so much with it, it’s ridiculous. Even my GF likes to play the Moog one over my other synths and she loves the stock patches a lot. And that’s usually how I judge these synths. How much time do I spend on them and how much fun do I have playing them. So there’s that! 👍
@jfracine_composition
@jfracine_composition 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherklein4203 Hi ! Thanks for the details. I'm really looking to buy a One soon. The only worry I have is about the tuning problems, have you experienced such a problem, and how bad does it really get detuned ? Thanks a lot !
@chandeleerjet5637
@chandeleerjet5637 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat and considering buying a Moog One 16 voice for 6500 tomorrow. I have a P5, OBX8 on pre order, arp 2600, mellotron and some other random synths. Are there any synths you think I could get better versatility with instead of moog one?
@rixcom7621
@rixcom7621 2 жыл бұрын
@@chandeleerjet5637 Andromeda A6 is a consideration. I sold my Moog One, got tired of the patch latency when switching sounds. Too much of a delay.
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 3 жыл бұрын
Why was the Prophet in mono? They both sound absolutely gorgeous. Out of my budget though. At least until I win a big lottery! Both have big fat sounds. I'd probably go for the Moog though with 16 voices. Wonder if I really do need my kidneys?
@germofficial
@germofficial 3 жыл бұрын
The prophet has a mono output only
@niko6248
@niko6248 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was more of a preference for Dave Smith as plenty of synths during the time of the prophet's release were stereo. You can still get stereo passing it through some effects though.
@downpatmusic
@downpatmusic 11 ай бұрын
Very similar in actuality. The Effects on the Moog One and stereo output seems to give it the more modern sound. I'd get the 16 voice of the Moog One if you were going to buy one. 3 synths, 16 voices, you can do a lot with that.
@joemusik17
@joemusik17 Жыл бұрын
Please your thoughts , I have been fighting between the Moog One or the OBx8 I am ready to put an order in. I know they both are great.
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 ай бұрын
Prophet 10
@Renzsu
@Renzsu 3 жыл бұрын
Prologue looking from the corner trying to join in on the fun...
@elrickstero
@elrickstero 3 жыл бұрын
cowering, really.
@Renzsu
@Renzsu 3 жыл бұрын
@@elrickstero I'll take a Prologue over a Prophet.. but that's just me maybe.
@peterworley4361
@peterworley4361 8 ай бұрын
Where are you getting your prices? The One is almost 10k, not under 6k like you said. Surely it hasn’t shot up in price in 3 years?
@McEnroe911
@McEnroe911 3 жыл бұрын
Damn... prophet all day.
@xnonsuchx
@xnonsuchx Жыл бұрын
The One is more feature rich, but many might not feel a need for many of those if they just want mostly traditional sounds out of it. The Prophet-10 (I have a Prophet ‘08 PE…not Rev2) is just trying to be an updated Prophet-5/10 of old, which is something I think a lot more people would prefer. How much more would the Prophet-10 be with another OSC, multiple display screens and a lot of other stuff the One has? I think price is comparable, considering what you’re getting, though I think I’d prefer it if Moog did just an updated Memorymoog for less over the One.
@VincentPresley
@VincentPresley Жыл бұрын
Presets on both are crap (like most synths). The P10 is about as simple as synths come and the Moog One is about as deep and complex as they come. People that say they don't like how the One sounds either only watched youtube videos or have no idea how to make a patch. The One absolutely kills the P10 in every way. The only thing I like about the P10 is it's look. These two synths are about as different as two analog poly synths could possibly be.
@Connor_Sherlock
@Connor_Sherlock 3 жыл бұрын
the prophet 10 sounds like a good synth, the moog one sounds like a monk blessed a log in the 11th century and now it makes music
@eriklucasmusic
@eriklucasmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand this analogy
@HiLoMusic
@HiLoMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Connor does that mean you prefer the one?
@maryd6286
@maryd6286 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow, this is the exactly perfect description.
@WithTheGrain
@WithTheGrain 3 жыл бұрын
God that prophet is huge
@stevenwhite8936
@stevenwhite8936 3 жыл бұрын
does either of those beasts sit on a normal stand ?
@kennethvaughn8884
@kennethvaughn8884 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Prophet 10 a mono synth? I noticed the single output. Is the headphone stereo or dual mono? Are there stereo effects on the synth?
@simenskari
@simenskari 3 жыл бұрын
Mono and dual mono headphone out. No effects
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn‘t it make more sense to compare similar patches?
@jackduxbury1632
@jackduxbury1632 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it would but I'd need alot more time than what I had please forgive me Ray - you're one of my heroes!! 🤣
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 3 жыл бұрын
Just send me a P10 and a MO, I‘d program matching patches for you. :)
@SerErris
@SerErris 3 жыл бұрын
Tuning of the Prophet before playing would have been great ;) patch 111 is not that retuned ... it is actually a very analog sounding, it not damaged analog sounding patch
@socksincrocks
@socksincrocks 3 жыл бұрын
Those are not the normal P5/10 presets supplied by Sequential. Where did you get these? Is ti possible to share?
@markaprill6501
@markaprill6501 Жыл бұрын
Nice shout out to j3po guy is way underrated. I love his style.
@BecomingProductions
@BecomingProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Ill be interested to hear this later. Of course its not much of a comparison as the Prophet is massively limited in features in comparison. Thats not going to be a surprise to anyone as its based on a 40 year old design. The raw tone should still hold up though so will be curious to give this a proper listen.
@apersonontheinternet8034
@apersonontheinternet8034 3 жыл бұрын
The Prophet sounds like an awesome recreation of a vintage synth, full of character. The Moog just sounds like a posh VST in comparison. Still, for that money, I'd get a Novation Summit and an OB6 together. Summit brings all the great sounds and OB6 brings truckloads of character. Together they absolutely walk all over either of the two here (I'd even argue the OB6 can do that on its own).
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 3 жыл бұрын
I got OB6 and Hydrasynth. Also Prophet-6, secondhand, bought first). Feel no need for anything else. Maybe a sampler?😂 Prophet-6 and OB-6 are so different. They go well together and they have same layout. A joy to play. OB6 is so lively. It talks. It's like the OB6 is excitable and the P6 is calmly musical. The Hydra I haven't really explored properly. That would take an age.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 3 жыл бұрын
The OB6 sounds awesome and for some reason mine reminds me sometimes of the old SSM Prophet-5s. It doesn't have self oscillating filter but has a sort of fineness in the sound and thinness that you can get, more a kind of lightness to the resonance that reminds me of the old P5 filter, more so than the newer P5, P10 and P6. The OB-6 is ECCENTRIC!
@Nospoon777
@Nospoon777 3 жыл бұрын
I'm rockin OB6 Matriarch myself! 😎
@antoniorusso5149
@antoniorusso5149 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Moog One and just couldn’t get that analog organic sound from it like I can with my Prophet 10. Ob-6 nails it. I went for a Summit as well. Together they are a match made in heaven. I may ad an Ob-6 in the future.
@lophophoraflower9794
@lophophoraflower9794 7 ай бұрын
The prophet-10 patches are not the factory presets (the factory button is not illuminated). Notably, the first preset on the prophet-10 here (111) sounds nothing like the actual factory 111 preset.
3 жыл бұрын
What a weird comparison:)) it would be very creative to compare first presets 😂😂😂
@deeperthanhouse
@deeperthanhouse 5 ай бұрын
Nice. Though a much fairer sound comparison would've been to turn off ALL of the MOOG ONE's [global] effects
@davlippo7
@davlippo7 Жыл бұрын
Seemed like the Moog was more EP/piano playable so just depends on your needs. Just the first 10 presets so who knows.
@RobFlaxMusic
@RobFlaxMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Both are clear winners. I feel like I'm hearing more uncharted territory on the Moog One... Would love to see a video on the Novation Summit (perhaps in a shootout with the Korg Prologue)?
@passivehouseaustralia4406
@passivehouseaustralia4406 3 жыл бұрын
rev2 vs prologue !?!
@calebnei8276
@calebnei8276 2 жыл бұрын
If you were giving them away and I had to pick one, it’s the P10 for me.
@kylew706
@kylew706 3 жыл бұрын
Came expecting the moog, but the prophet seems better, you can see jacks playing is more playful on the prophet
@sirgaryo
@sirgaryo Жыл бұрын
How can you compare two different makes by playing different voicings and totally different things on each one ???
@deborahgay9275
@deborahgay9275 3 жыл бұрын
Fx on the moog one are only ruining it. One question : Why ?? it sounds dull as an access virus. The prophet is much more present and liquid sounding, very true to its familly. Memorymoogs where all about dirt and growl .. boys what have you done to him ??
@stereowarrior
@stereowarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this :) I'm trying to figure out if a P10 would bring something new to the table for a M1 owner. It certainly is inspiring in its simplicity and the sound is amazing.
@kimzim2001
@kimzim2001 3 жыл бұрын
Owning the Korg M1 I can't imagine you would need any of these...
@stereowarrior
@stereowarrior 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimzim2001 My bad, I was abbreviating too much. I was referring to the Moog One (and Prophet 10). I did get the Prophet 10 and gotta say it's immediacy is fantastic and the raw tone shakes the foundations of my house. I have a feeling I could match at least most of the sounds on the Moog but it would take some effort. The Moog usually feels a bit smoothed out, I guess making it record ready in a sense.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimzim2001 🤣
@MFASonic
@MFASonic 2 жыл бұрын
I must say this comparison is the prototype of comparing apples with pears. Both synths are great at what they do, and one (sic!) costs 3 times more. Clear that the P10 always sounds more direct: It's mono and has no FX. On the other hand, blindly listening, there are only a very few patches (that all have nothing to do with each other, btw.) where I would choose the Sequential. For what it actually does, I almost always prefer my vintage Juno-60 (bought 2003 for about 800 USD, what's more or less its real value, and only little maintenance cost ever since) for fast sounds and my OB-Xa (don't ask about all the headache!) for lush pads. And now? You can have the P10 for about 3000 USD as a module. That's a good price for a good vintage-emulating synth with a great OS and perfect craftsmanship. I guess it will not need any maintenance before the year 2040. I don't regret spending the money, but I hope that in the future Sequential will release the Pro3 with 10 voices - that would be very nice. Or you can have the One16 (don't buy 8) for 9000 USD. It has more often than not a shitty/faulty/custom keybed, a slow OS that even emits crackles if you search for presets, it has noisy fans and isn't very fast, especially when using OSC compensation. But: It can do almost everything if you take your time! It's three times multitimbral. It has Eventide FX on board (some people complained about that, but well...). It makes you play and program for hours and hours, days and days. It has the most complex mod matrix ever built into a non-modular synth I guess. It is MY desert island synth, yes. Just make sure you have internet on the desert island, because OS 2.0 will arrive sooner or later and hopefully iron out some bugs.
@mytwosynths1747
@mytwosynths1747 3 жыл бұрын
this video makes me very happy i bought the prophet 5 today. But i still want a ONE
@nilespeterclemens8328
@nilespeterclemens8328 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been so unimpressed with Moog.
@wolfpackpresets
@wolfpackpresets 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there's something about Prophet ☀️
@danielelston7457
@danielelston7457 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Prophet 10
@theJustScience
@theJustScience 6 ай бұрын
I can’t decided. Guess I just need both! 😂
@theJustScience
@theJustScience 6 ай бұрын
…now I just need to learn how to play piano :/
@KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000
@KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000 3 жыл бұрын
Good Job Jack
@fizmo100
@fizmo100 3 жыл бұрын
Great demo of two amazing synths. I think the Moog tips it for me, just has a clarity and complexity to the sound the Prophet doesn't match (as far as I can hear in an 8-preset demo of course). Whether I could ever justify spending that sort of money on the Moog One... I dunno. I just picked up a Modal 002 for less than half what the Prophet 10 cost, never mind the Moog, and I think I prefer it over both of the above. No doubt with the Sequential and the Moog part of the price is in the name on the front panel and the heritage you are buying into.
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 жыл бұрын
Modal doesn’t really scratch the surface of the p10 sound-wise if you ask me
@fizmo100
@fizmo100 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpederson1021 Each to their own, of course. I'd take the Modal hands down, the more I play it and explore the more impressed I become. I'm sure the Pro 10 and Moog would also tickle my pickle if I spent as long with them, none are bad options, but there is something about the Modal I can't quite put my finger on that makes it 'special' sounding.
@brendonsmith8025
@brendonsmith8025 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened the the Maltese falcon?
@Mao-max454
@Mao-max454 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice !! Prophet-10 REV-4 !!!
@daguy7575
@daguy7575 Жыл бұрын
How can you compare. They are soooo different
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