2 Ways to Color Grade HLG Footage in DaVinci Resolve

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

If you want to output HLG as HDR watch this tutorial next: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzKd356lKytd9k

[@uehal]

@@JasonRobertsVideo thanks bro!

[@CheCarChannel]

Thank you. Straight to the point video like this is just amazing.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks so much :) :)

[@RobertWildling]

What a light you have just turned on in my understanding of DaVince Resolve's Color Management! I have never ever been aware of the "Input Colour Space" column you show at around 1:31 - and even though I have watched countless numbers of videos on DR I do not remember that anyone else ever has. (In my case it was at the very right, actually even outside of the visible area, since the path column took away all that space.) Thank you so much! This is SO useful to finally know where to find the input color space of all those video clips!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Hi Robert, that makes me so happy to hear that it was helpful - thanks for the lovely comment :) :)

[@sheikhazeemsh]

Oh my God you just saved me so much hassle working with footage from iphone 15 pro, s24 ultra and lumix gh5... thanks a lot option 2 rocks

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

That's so great to hear - glad it was useful :) :)

[@cliffetzelphoto]

Finally a solution for editing my iPhone 14 footage shot in HLG Rec 2020 - I've been searching for who knows how long to do this as I had given up on ever editing my mobile device content I shoot for myself and clients. Thank You!!!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yay! glad this helped :) :)

[@diego10style]

Thanks Jason, I have been trying to solve this problem for at least 5 months and finally with your video I was able to do it

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

That makes me so happy to hear - glad to help :) :)

[@smbishop63]

I finally had a chance to try this out on some test footage. Wow, it was so easy, and the results were fantastic! I really like how you keep it simple with just enough 'why' as you go through the steps. Honestly, I have spent hours watching the 'experts' and yet I have learned more from your 5 minute videos than any of them. Looking forward to a Deliver in HDR video. I just want to see what the difference is.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Wow that so great to hear! Thanks so much! :) :)

[@laura_blei]

In my Davinci 19 there‘s no option in the Media Tool that shows the ‚Input Color Space‘ - is there another way to find out?

[@154nitishhirlekar6]

did you find it?

[@vavalexus]

Super! I knew about the prohect settings for HLG, but didnt know how to combine my footage from dji mini 4 shoot with HLG and may Nikon z6ii in one project. Now with this input and output node for HGL it is possible. Thank you!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yay! Glad I explained it ok - thanks :) :)

[@uehal]

Best explanation so far. But what to do if you have different media formats like HLG from DJI and HDR or LOG from iPhone for example?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks! You would have different transforms going into DaVinci Wide gamut depending on the source camera footage :) :)

[@ivoliYT]

Thank you very much man. You rule. Is it really better to shoot in HLG and then get a more cinematic look by crushing shadows?

[@NEONSKIPPER]

Thanks for the video it helped me a lot :)

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Glad to hear it! Thanks :) :)

[@Mangemonslip]

Hi, For any reason, the colors and brightness are not the same as what I saw in the finder's viewer which shows a really nice and well balanced image.. 🤔

[@Chutichthanh]

Thanks sir . I have learned alot of things from your video

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

It's my pleasure - thanks :) :)

[@002codename]

damn i never knew HLG looks that good until your guide... thanks a ton ...

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

You welcome - thanks :) :)

[@TomAto-g4x]

Hi @JasonRobertsVideo, thank you for this. I learnt a lot. May I know, if I'm working with HLG3 (most of the time), is the setting the same? If not, what setting is more suitable? (from color management tab to CST fx) I'm using Datacolor Spyder Checkr Video for most of my project, but there's isn't much tutorial on KZbin about editing in HLG3 color space. (and they're vastly different from each other) I need a definitive setting for grading HLG3 (Sony Zve-10) once and for all. Much Appreciated!

[@jacksonleo3937]

Omg, I'm having the same issue here. Was working HLG3 footage and I couldn't find a proper tutorial for it. We need help 😭 @JasonRobertsVideo

[@wzloi6217]

Yes! You guys found any new tutorial for grading HLG3 yet huh?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks, I haven't grade HLG3 specifically so it would seem you need the correct settings in the cst/color management - this looks like it may be what you want - I don;t have any HLG3 footage to test on at the moment though.

[@TomAto-g4x]

​@@JasonRobertsVideoThanks for the quick reply. At the moment, I'm using the 2nd option in this video (Color Science: Davinci YRGB Color Managed , Color Processing Mode: HDR Davinci Wide Gamut Intermediate, Output Color Space: Rec.709 Gamma 2.4) for color correction with the help of Datacolor Spyder Checkr Video before doing any grading. I'm mostly satisfied with the result, but I'm not certain if I'm doing them correctly. In the near future, can you make one tutorial for HLG3 grading with Davinci Resolve? It would help greatly to build up my confidence in this matter. Much Love ❤

[@tofu_san8916]

@@TomAto-g4x Hi, If we use 2nd option - don't we loose advantage of working with 10-bit color ?

[@Maciaasty_]

If you work for example with HLG3, D-LOG M and SLOG-2 would you suggest to work with which method? HLG3 and SLOG-2 are 8-bit and D-LOG M is 10-bit. Would love to know what would pick. Much love for this easy and greate tutorial!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

That's tricky 8-bit s-log-2 (which I've never had to grade) might suffer if you do any significant grading (and even without grading possibly) and 10-bit D-Log-M uses Rec.709 color primaries so you are not getting as wide color information (but it is at least 10-bit) so there's a compromise either way. I would shoot some test footage, do some sample grades to get roughly the look you imagine, export and then evaluate the results. You will probably find this dlog-m vid interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2fdYXqIlNlkrqc

[@Maciaasty_]

@@JasonRobertsVideo thanks a lot

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

No problem :) :)

[@Fleant]

Hi, I chose to use the HLG3 colour profile because it's a good compromise for capturing the maximum amount of information without having colour problems with 8 bit Slog with the Sony A7III. However, I'd like to be sure that the 2nd method in your video allows you to use the full potential of HLG3. I have the impression that I won't be able to recover much information in my highlights if they're burnt out. Thanks for your video !

[@LeftUnTold-ef8ub]

+1, need answer for the same question please

[@shortcutz-gdl]

Big thanks !!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

You're welcome! :) :)

[@rendermanpro]

Is it possible to "save as default" project settings?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yes, in Project Settings click the 3 dots at the top right and choose save current settings as default preset

[@wilfried42xx]

PERFECT !!!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Wow! - thanks :) :)

[@TheGreenBoater]

??? Will color grading work if I am using Proxy Media in my timeline?

[@AndreSjoberg]

Yes it will, the proxy footage is replaced with original footage on export :) Of course, to *really* see the results of your colorgrading before export switching from proxy to real footage before starting to grade (or back and forth during grading) will give you a better view of what is happening :)

[@TheGreenBoater]

@@AndreSjoberg thank you! great videos btw.

[@AndreSjoberg]

@@TheGreenBoater You’re welcome :) And thanks for watching, more stuff coming soon :)

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks for answering this question :) :)

[@AndreSjoberg]

@@JasonRobertsVideo Happy to help out :) The TinyTubers gotta stock together, we’re all here to learn and have some fun doing it :) And also a way for me to say thanks for an excellent and to the point video about setting up davinci resolve to do the color management in a really easy and covenient way :)

[@davideastaugh8896]

Thank you, legend

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Haha - you're welcome - thanks! :) :)

[@bunterregenbogen108]

1:40 I have DaVinci Resolve 19 and it looks different. What to do?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

What looks differnt?

[@bunterregenbogen108]

​@@JasonRobertsVideo 1:19 the Layout no before or after

[@david_karner]

Nice! Thanks!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks David, you're welcome :) :)

[@marzupalami]

Thanks for the video. Is there ever a reason to use Color Space Transform nodes when grading when you can use the color management option in the master settings? Seems like it would be much easier to not have to add the nodes. Appreciate your tutorials!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks! I love the color managed approach too and the CST approach gives you more flexibility, particularly if you want to do things after the final CST conversion like in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4qzk6ONeMhkmrM

[@votresitepro-agenceweb]

Thank you so much ! I'm used to the 1st way of doing it, but the 2nd seems faster. Is there a way to save those 5 nodes as a preset (for the 1st version) ? So that we don't have to manually do it every time ? Cheers Pedro

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yep you can grab a still and then move it to a powerbin, then in your next project you can just apply the grade from the power bin and you will get all the nodes back :) :)

[@votresitepro-agenceweb]

Awesome 😎. ​@@JasonRobertsVideo

[@RashiSaysRawrr]

Second method starts at 3:48

[@YiHogyun]

4:03 - this is all we need to know. Why even do the adding of nodes garbage. THanks.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Adding nodes is how you do color grading (if that's what you want to do)

[@ign_rain3442]

Hello Jason, In the 2nd method, if i have a look lut that requires rec709 input, do I apply it after the 3rd node (in this example)? But since this is a DWG timeline, will the lut even work at all?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Hi, you would apply it in a node after the DWG->Rec709 CST node.

[@Henno1965]

I am using the HLG mode on my mini 4 pro and found this very useful. I have used your method one successfully. Would i be correct in assuming your method 2 would only be suitable if you had nothing but HLG clips to edit on that project? If I keep your first method as a power grade in the colour page can I edit all my HLG mini 4 pro and other formats in the one project?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

You can use either way to grade mixed footage but with the CST version you will need to have different input and output CST configurations depending on the source footage - there are loads of ways to "share" a grade between clips - check these 2 vids to learn more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hILTm4imo6uXiJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZbJg36jZ9yhn9E

[@CarlosLemans]

Thanks for the tutorial, very useful, after trying with my Mini 4 Pro in HLG and DLOGM, that video color spaces doesn´t give any improvements compared to NORMAL.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks :) :) Do you find in D-Log M / HLG that you get more highlight details, like clouds not being blown out etc?

[@CarlosLemans]

@@JasonRobertsVideoduring the day I compared all of the them, the worst if D-LOG M and I didn´t get any issue with normal mode, at night I found HLG the best

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Cool - thanks for the update :) :)

[@candles3333]

As a complete Newby, what degree or training do you need to understand this process, it really is a foreign language to me so where do I start this journey?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

I am self-taught, I am considering making a Resolve color grading complete beginners guide - do you think that would be use to people?

[@candles3333]

@@JasonRobertsVideo I think it would, as someone who knows nothing about colour grading its very confusing. I understand you have to put the hours in to learn this type of skill but having someone walk you through it is always helpful. Thanks

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

I made this beginners guide - hope it helps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip-YgIGeg7SisK8

[@creativeuniversefilms3766]

whats the settings of cst if i am working on slog 3 footage

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

s-log3 + S Gamut3.Cine

[@arturoyoh]

Hey, this is nice! but I cant find that "Input Color Space" column in media .. how did you activate it? I dont remember in which color space was shot...

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Right click column headers and tick input color space

[@arturoyoh]

@@JasonRobertsVideo oh sh*t...!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

No worries :) :)

[@MikeO01]

Hello Jason, can you put HLG footage and SDR footage on the same timeline settings of 'HDR DaVinci Wide Gamut Intermediate'? Or are there any downsides? I like your solution of not needing those CSTs!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yes, absolutely - the whole point is all the source vide gets converted to wide gamut/int and then all the grading is done in the same space and then all output from that one space to the final video file. :) :)

[@MikeO01]

@@JasonRobertsVideo Thank you Jason, to clarify please … In DaVinci YRGB Color Managed, when you set the Color processing mode to Custom HDR….for HDR clips. Do you then have to (and can) set different input custom settings for SDR clips (on the same timeline). And what does it do when you set it to ‘Automatic color management’ instead?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

I just did this HLG HDR vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzKd356lKytd9k and yes you would have SDR input CST or have them color managed as SDR

[@MikeO01]

@@JasonRobertsVideo thank you.

[@user-ky9py9oi7d]

For method 2, if I wanted to deliver end product as HDR, what would you change? thanks

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Change the output in either method to what standard you want, for example HDR for youtube "If you're grading your video, grade in Rec. 2020 with PQ or HLG" - support.google.com/youtube/answer/7126552?hl=en

[@thabangramodipa]

Bro... You just explained it in the most elementary way. Saving this to my coloring playlist for life! I've always gravited towards option 1 but am I just making my life more difficult than necessary? Is there a benefit to doing it manually through CST's?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thanks so much :) :) CST approach gives you a bit more control overall on the order in which things/conversions happen if you need to take control of the "pipeline" manually. For most simple/common grading the other approach is what I use.

[@SeaBreeze789]

Very very usefull this one! But how to set the Davinci to export HDR, a video that was shooted in HLG. All goods!

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Glad it was helpful! I'm going to cover HDR in a future video :) :)

[@CineRixx]

@@JasonRobertsVideo very eager to see this video in how to export HDR from HLG

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Watch this for HDR export: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzKd356lKytd9k

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Watch this for HDR export: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzKd356lKytd9k

[@Middlestepofficial]

One thing is unclear for me and that's the display used. Many displays use the DCI-P3 color space, which is bigger than Rec.709 but smaller than Rec.2020. Now, when we're editing any HLG footage in Rec.2100 color space, this is way above the grade of the DCI-P3 display capabilities. Are we actually seeing the colors correctly or do we need a HDR10+ capable monitor? Would be nice to hear some input for this to clear it out.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Your monitor that you're viewing the footage on should be calibrated and be able to accurately display whatever you are delivering - for example if you are delivering Rec.709 then you should have a monitor that's showing you accurately rec.709 etc.

[@Ebenesar-vs3sd]

super bro !

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Thank you!! :) :)

[@lenswithshu]

And what about the Cine 4 footage.... what will be input gamma for cine 4 ???....i search full YT but no one told about cine 4 footage CST....can you help me with it .....

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

I've not used cine4 myself but sounds like you might need to treat it as rec709 check this link I found for you: www.liftgammagain.com/forum/index.php?threads/sony-cine-4-grading.16068/

[@lenswithshu]

@@JasonRobertsVideo thank you for your help 🙌

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

No problem :) :)

[@k9.Unit.]

Is this applicable to editing 8-bit HLG III footage from the Sony A7III?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

I don't have an a73 so I haven't done it but the same basic workflows apply :) :)

[@RoadRangerPH]

as of today i cant access the WG/Intermidiate. can you check it out why is that??

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

I have no idea why that might be - maybe try start a new project and see if it is there.

[@MrDogtown22]

Thing is. You're shooting in HLG which is HDR and exporting in REC709 which isnt HDR so whats the point? Its not going to display in HDR on my HDR TV.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

That's correct - you are capturing in a wider color gamut (HLG, Rec 2020 primaries) to give you more information to work with in the grade and then choosing your output space - in this example Rec.709. If you film in standard mode (Rec.709) you are not capturing as much color information (specifically a wider gamut) at the source. You can of course choose to output hdr instead of Rec.709.

[@MrDogtown22]

@JasonRobertsVideo ahh I see now. Kind of like shooting a photo in raw, editing then exporting a jpeg.

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yeah - kind of :) :)

[@СергейИванченков-ДляСвоих]

​@JasonRobertsVideo if you want to render in HDR, which is the whole point of shooting in HLG, do not convert to rec709, and rather select b2020 profile in deliver tab. Ytube for details. But otherwise, in order to give yourself more latitude for color grading, use log while shooting.

[@sonykl9354]

Hi How do you recommend setting the EV for HLG in Pocket 3, or is that what most people say -0.3? In Sony A7III for HLG3 I set it to +0.7 to +1 EV and everything is always OK. Second thing, I know that it should be set to manual but I don't have filters and I record in auto Pocket 3, there is a problem with maintaining EV during long distance recording, it can go up or down by a value of -3 to +3 EV and keep it that way. Sorry, but I use tyranslator

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Hi and thanks for the question - I am planning on doing a video to help explain Pocket 3 exposure soon :) :)

[@MrDogtown22]

So youre converting hlg to rec709? Why not just use dlog?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

This video explains that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2fdYXqIlNlkrqc

[@MrDogtown22]

@@JasonRobertsVideo yeah problem is my pocket 3 shoots hlg, my mini 3 pro doesn't 😕

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yeah I know that feeling - wish they add HLG in an update!! :)

[@MrDogtown22]

@@JasonRobertsVideo is there any way to mix hlg and sdr, render in hlg without the sdr footage becoming oversaturated??

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Yep you can mix source footage types and transorm them into something like DWG in the timeline and then transform for your export target - I'm gonna be doing a HDR/HLD vid when I can get to it :) :)

[@dawe890ify]

as a rookie, my footage is way too colorfull and way TOO contrasie, help. i use HLG 10bit from my mini4pro DJI drone....

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Try using negative color boost/negative saturation and also try reducing the contrast value (all in the primaries section) and see if that starts to help :) :)

[@smgbeats]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

Haha thanks!! :) :)

[@StephMedia123]

The 2nd method sure looks a lot easier than the first since you don't need to make conversion nodes, but maybe some quality is lost doing it that easy way?

[@JasonRobertsVideo]

The quality should be the same, the conversion nodes approach gives you more flexibility/control over what's happening and is more explicit :) :)

[@budemtam]

Серьезно? Этим кто то будет заниматься?

[@peturadunga]

how difficult can this be ... :/ ... where to get a intro that explains this from a entry level