$20 BRS Backpacking Stove vs. $130 Jetboil Backpacking Stove!

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Which backpacking stove is BEST for the price - the $130 Jetboil Flash, or the budget friendly $20 BRS-3000T? If the far cheaper BRS-3000T can boil water and do everything the far pricier, and heavier, Jetboil Flash can do, is the $110 price difference really worth spending? I have used both stoves over the course of a year, but to truly find out how well each stove performs head to head I tested them both in the controlled setting of my garage! Which backpacking stove performed the best and is the most worth it for the price? The answer is... watch the video to see! 😉
Intro: 00:00
Technical specs of the BRS-3000T vs Jetboil Flash: 0:59
Use comparison of the BRS-3000T vs Jetboil Flash: 4:05
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Use comparison of the BRS-3000T vs Jetboil Flash, con't: 9:43
Concluding the best backpacking stove for the price: 13:24
Outro: 15:51
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$20 BRS Backpacking Stove vs. $130 Jetboil Backpacking Stove!
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[@RainerGolden]

Telling my doctor I weigh 81,000 almonds.

[@musingwithreba9667]

😂😂

[@sar4x474]

94,840 almonds here. You made me do math!!

[@tc2156]

49,895 almonds 😂

[@ItsAStephanieB]

Hahahahaha😂😂😂😂 81 000 almonds! Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant!!!

[@russelljackman1413]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[@johnparks2546]

Gear skeptic did a great video on this. If you're a little patient, you can turn the heat down to low medium, your fuel last at least double what it does at max setting.

[@MonsoonEast]

Was looking for this comment. 100% solid info from him.

[@TheMcspreader]

Gear Skeptic makes superb videos where each is like a masters thesis presentation although some may find that a little overwhelming.

[@Funkteon]

@@TheMcspreader Gear Skeptic videos are for people who 1) Already know a lot and are looking to confirm their scientific assumptions, and 2) Desire to learn the reality of gear instead of the utter bollocks you'll get from the vast majority of outdoor KZbinrs...

[@schulzbrianr]

Introducing, the pietz-sometimes! The pietz-possibly! The pietz-tentially!

[@RainerGolden]

It’s Pavlov’s pietzo!!

[@JoelBecker72]

​@@RainerGolden Schrödinger's pietzo

[@RainerGolden]

@@JoelBecker72 Oh yes, that is what I meant 😂

[@CraftyCoba0408]

pietz-soso

[@obfuscurity]

One of the big benefits of the Jetboil is its wind protection design. Really would've liked to see this indoors test used as a control, with a second test done outside for more real world conditions.

[@the_peefster]

I use rhe brs i just carry a windscreen i bought from naturehike, could damn near it in a gale

[@d.2110]

sooooooo many other channels have already done all those tests and more tho

[@obfuscurity]

@@d.2110 So you’re saying this video is unnecessary then?

[@DominiqueB]

@@the_peefster You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)

[@the_peefster]

@@DominiqueB my windscreen sits several inches away from the stove

[@JeffRevell]

I use the BSR with a Titanium pot and have enjoyed the simplicity of the system. It also breaks down into a really small size when packing up, which is important for a bikepacking setup. I did buy the orange fuel canister stand at REI for about $5, which does make the system much more stable. If anyone is interested in a Jetboil system, you can currently get one at REI for less than $100.

[@NewbieNikki]

When my sister and I went on the PCT I used a Pocket Rocket and she used the Jet Boil. I was so jealous of her Jet Boil once I saw it in action! The wind screen and the speed of boiling was fantastic. She had no regrets carrying it. I think both stoves are great in their own way but the Jet Boil sure is luxury.

[@TheAirlock]

A jet boil is 1/6 the price of an actual small whirlpool stove. The jet boil is way overpriced. You’re better off buying it on sale or secondhand.

[@jackiamato138]

Love my Jet boil. Yes it might be heavier, it’s great for a weekend trip for me. I like your suggestion with sharing it amongst others at camp, as it cuts cooking time as well as fuel consumption. The smaller lighter ones are intriguing but, I like the stability of the jet boil as well as not needing a pot grabber so that I don’t burn my fingers.

[@Red_Twizzler]

100%

[@terryc1538]

I'll never forget the time I was at a dry camp with only a litter and half of water, put 500 ml in my pot to make supper and just as it started boiling my pot tipped off the stove and spilled on the ground. Refilled and had a really dry hike the next day. It took me until about 3 the next day before I reached the next water source.

[@Red_Twizzler]

I’ve had my original Jetboil for about 20 years. I use it on every camping trip, cold hiking trips, music festivals and every road trip.

[@lskazalski]

I had a Coleman Peak stove for 25+ years before I replaced it. It kicked butt - but it was HEAVY, especially when the fuel tank was full.

[@raphaelkinney]

I liked your conclusion on this one because there really is no one size fits all when it comes to gear like this. You absolutely hit the nail on the head that in a group setting on perhaps a shorter trip, the jetboil feels way more appropriate than say on a week+ trip on technical terrain where something like the BRS wins on weight. I've discovered something similar with down jackets as well where I am in the market for the lightest, most compressible jacket I can find to meet kit requirements on a mountain race where I'm using it as a layer. Many of the reviews on those jackets that are negative seem to come from people that don't have a proper understanding of the jackets use case, expecting it to perform in the cold as well as a much larger and heavier jacket.

[@burnsidebobthorpe]

the weight is really not much an issue when you consider you have to carry twice as much fuel with the brs stove if you did the week plus trip, then the weight is essentially the same...still have to consider the pot with the brs and the fuel can....the weight different is down to ounces...not much....i have both and the jetboil is exponentially more effective on week or longer trips...as a coffee drinker , adding the plunger to the jetboil is where the weight gets even more even as i dont have to bring a seperate item to make coffee , broken down it fits inside the jetboil pot with the stove, the fuel can ....end of the day, it saves carrying extra fuel, add the french press plunger at literally next to no weight, you get great coffee with out more bulk....the stability is what essentially seals the deal...

[@raphaelkinney]

@@burnsidebobthorpe All fair points! I guess I was imagining more in the scenario like myself where I might be cold soaking meals and using a heated setup for coffee in the mornings. In which case even if I am using roughly 1.8x more fuel as demonstrated by Miranda, on a 198g canister I'd have to be going for more than 22 days before I ran out. In that time frame I'm usually either done, or would have passed though a place I could pick up more fuel as needed. Like I said originally I think there's a good argument to be made completely depending on the person and the trip needs.

[@obfuscurity]

omg immediately liked for "Mike Tyson is a basketball player"

[@thedirtyknobs]

He a professional pigeon trainer beyond that I know nothing lol

[@scottplumer3668]

In fairness, he did have a basketball court at his house that had a "Team Tyson" logo painted on it, so he was a basketball player.

[@thedirtyknobs]

@scottplumer3668 I think he also was fairly successful selling frozen chickens in the supper market too 😀

[@thedirtyknobs]

His brother Steven Tyson sings with that band Aerosmith

[@robopecha]

@@thedirtyknobs yeah everybody knows that.

[@garyantley]

I agree with your review 100%, the jet boil style stays in the SUV and the little pack stove is in the pack.

[@ShroomAndMoss]

Loved this format ! And the medium options are well appreciated !!! Currently preparing for my first backpacking trip, and I'm rewatching all your videos even more than usual 🥰 (and bought a dehydrator haha) Thank you so much for all the comprehensive info xx

[@Matthew-cl9pu]

Thank you for putting together this video. Please conduct this test on all the stoves in another video, Cheers!

[@jonathananonymouse7685]

Well, this was a delightful first video to see by you. I especially enjoyed the sound effects, you goob! Keep up the good work!

[@sgtpickles1319]

After using both the Jetboil and BRS, I settled on the Soto Windmaster. Great efficiency, decently light, and I can swap to the 3 or 4 prong pot holder as needed.

[@chrisharmon5453]

Maddie of Beer In Beautiful Places had her stove with a pot full of boiling water tip over on her legs while thru hiking the Appalachian Trail last year. Always cook on the ground.

[@vincentvega5686]

rookie mistake. surprised no one warned her not to do that.

[@teganlewis2284]

I bought the Soto Windmaster a couple years ago because of a review you did and your recommendation. I love it! Thanks!

[@TheThomasites]

BRS or Pocket Rocket, Toaks 750ml, the support stand, and a wind guard is my go to. Light and cheap.

[@lskazalski]

Mine, too, but I'm seriously thinking about getting the canister stabilizer. I keep the BRS inside my cup/pot so it doesn't get lost

[@Erik_The_Viking]

I've had the Jetboil since it came out in the early 2000's. It's my primary cooking system because it just works, and is extremely efficient. The BRS and titanium cup would be a great ultralight option. On backpacking trips I used it for group cooking and it's worked great. Maybe a little heavy for some but the benefits are worth it to me.

[@juliammcgee]

Thanks so much! I have both of these on my wish list and could never decide

[@mumbles1justin]

Ive been using my jetboil about 5 years. One of the reasons I prefer it is because I like the fact the fuel, fuel stand, cleaning sponge silicon hot mat/pot holder & pot support all consolidated inside the jetboil pot. Most of my hikes are only 15 to 20 mile hikes so the extra wait isn’t bad. Does seam like overkill on some hikes. I personally haven’t had any major issues with my ignitor.

[@vc5213]

I have the Soto Amicus and I love it! It has yet to fail and works well in windy conditions. It also comes with a handy cookset that a fuel canister can fit it. Pricewise it's between the BRS and Jetboil

[@RottenlyMoodyChild]

Piez-maybe? Piez-Noooooooooooo 😂 BRS for me. Was a great video. Thanks.

[@scott9752]

I'll give this video a thumbs up for the back to the Future references alone let alone the information about the products. :)

[@MrTraewilliams]

I don't camp often but I like a Jet Boil system. I only care about boiling water for bag meals. I like how quick and stable they are. 💯✌️🤟🤘

[@nicktabaczka]

Comparison video idea: We need to shine some love on the REI Air Rail sleeping pad. 1. It doesn’t feel like a pool toy. 2. The combo of air and insulation is perfect and thus you need not choose between them. 3. It is quiet and doesn’t sound like you are rolling on a bag of potato chips. 4. The rails actually keep you on the pad overnight. 5. The dual valves are well engineered. 6. The price point is very fair. Most pads fall in the 50, 100, 200, or 275 areas. The Air Rail is only 120. I’ve never worked for REI, but I’ve convinced 6 friends to get this pad, and no one regrets it. I’d hate for REI to discontinue it like they did to the Half Dome 1+ tent. I’d compare it to both foam and air pads of higher and lower prices. P.S. Can we add “This is my _____ gosh darn” patches to the store? Love the Channel!

[@cup_and_cone]

Ultralight hikers: "What is a stove?"

[@wyomarine6341]

Like many things today, it's reaching a point of insanity. I started camping in the mid 1960's as a kid, traveled the world as a marine and have used almost every conceivable form of cooking device, now they don't cook? WTF? At 70 I'm still hiking the Winds, and I enjoy my coffee and a hot meal.

[@Nihilimus]

Glad you mentioned the Windmaster and other optios. I have the Amicus which is great too.

[@WyattCresswell]

Just found your channel! And I love your content so far. I’m a hunter and just looking for solid gear that’ll keep me alive back in the woods

[@foxh.4622]

I have the Jetboil Minimo and I love it! I keep it in my car for emergencies along with some backpacking meals and it actually saved me one day when my tire blew on my way home one night and I was able to have a bite to eat to keep myself going until help came!

[@gud2go50]

Jet boil for car/campground camping! BRS for backpacking! I have both and use them in this way. Great review! Thank you!😊

[@1anita1m]

I like the jetboil for car camping. Just too bulky and heavy for backpacking. I'll stick to my MSR. Great information, thanks for the demonstration. 😊

[@pyronymph-868]

Thank you for the delicious LMNT blueberry orange tea recipe! This may become my new favorite morning hot drink since the chocolate medly is no longer available. I absolutely loved the chocolate Chai flavor.

[@sandralutz-rodriguez2864]

I very much love the Jetboil and use it at home during hot summer days too. I find myself not bringing it on longer day hikes due to size and weight. Grabbing an alternative lightweight option for colder day hikes seems a better way to go for me. LMNT is incredible. Totally love it and wouldn’t hike without it. Will add for daily consumption as I make most of my food. What a great video!!

[@pixelpoppyproductions]

I have a snow peak light weight stove with a built in piezo ignition. I have several other lightweight stoves, but that’s always my first choice, and the fuel and stove fit nicely into my pot.

[@rannxerox3970]

Apples and Oranges comparison. With the JetBoil you are getting a pot, cozy, heat indicator, heat wind screen, heat flux, lid, a stand for the gas canister, even a measuring cup. Plus the JetBoil has accessories, aka, it's a system. I have the French press & pot supporter adapter. As far as the piezo, I have had my JetBoil for 10+ years and it still works. I did have to bend it back down once. With all of that said, for ultralight backpackers, go with the pocket rocket.

[@MrHongleberry]

I bought the Jetboil when I was first starting out (at REI of course), I only use it to boil water and for that purpose it's pretty flawless. You're right about fuel sipping, cans last FOREVER.

[@nickhtk6285]

I bought my first Jetboil almost ten years ago and it was a game changer. I pack a larger flash for the truck and pack a mini for the trail. A couple of times it's been Jetboil to the rescue with other backpackers due to fuel or stove failure.

[@paddle_hike]

I've been using the BRS for years... Never failed me. Works and boil your water... That's it and plenty enough for me.

[@armanger6254]

Great video, been doing this for years and i also own a jetboil (primarily for the sailboat). It's a good stove. BRS is also a good stove, I also have a couple MSR stoves, SnowPeak, trangia and fancee feast alcohol stoves etc. and they are all tailored to a specific purpose for me. I agree with others, U-do-U, just depends on the situation. They are all good stoves for my purposes.

[@77smp]

Great comparison and conclusion 🙂 I only started camping a few years ago and I've upgraded the tent, the mat, sleeping bag, got a ground sheet, etc but not my cheap own brand stove. Mainly because it came with a lightweight pot, a stand and a small stove. It does exactly what I need it to, admittedly not great in the wind but with a screen, it's all good. The Jetboil just seems too bulky and overkill for what I need.

[@StrictlyPlinking]

I just received my brs 3000t and did a simple inaugural test run. For what it is, it appears to be promising so far! Keep perspective and I think it’ll serve end-users just fine!

[@jaredj631]

Yeah I have both. BRS for fastpacking jetboil for family hiking trips i even bring the jetboil on car camping trips sometimes

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Right! These are two very different stoves for very different use cases.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

I have the smaller jet boil and I absolutely love it. I love the sturdy ness of it. I don’t need to save the weight that much lol. I love the lid for coffee, I have the coffee press for it , you really can’t beat it.

[@user-wx7wg5cn1m]

Very good comparison- awesome option indeed!😂❤

[@the_peefster]

Love my brs and titanium pot setup

[@daisiesndirt]

great video, well done :)

[@chili1593]

Soto amicus with pot included are always on sale at REI and are great stoves compact and the price cannot be beat for the kit

[@GenX_outdoors]

Great comparison and conclusions. I have both a JetBoil Minimo and a BRS setup, and use for different types of trips as you described. However, pro tip, I pair my BRS with the Toaks Light 700ml pot, which is a wider than average diameter at 4 1/2" (115mm), and it just feels much more stable. Love it!

[@iwalker3809]

Yes, the 700 light is an excellent choice for solo use.

[@memathews]

Great comparison video and good recommendations! I'm using an original Pocket Rocket from the first year they were available and an aluminum pot from at least 40 years ago when I needed a bigger pot for melting snow on my Svea 123. I guess old habits are hard to break-haha.

[@johncosta9593]

I have the BRS stove and that exact pot. I love them both and the definitely DO tip over 😂

[@Jaypher]

New to the channel and after watching a few- I'm obsessed with the edits and cutaways. So damn funny

[@wildflowerwonderer9426]

Ive had the BRS for 4 years and love it. So tiny, I just put the stove inside my pot to store it. It might take a little longer but the weight and price are well worth it.

[@eunhyuekpark6159]

Totally with ya on when/when not to bring the jetboil. I still have my first generation Jetboil with its long gone pietzo-maybe and its great on short trips, but on longer trips I'll bring my soto. Great comparison Miranda.

[@mrderekbarthow5967]

At my age (74) I must carry less weight on even overnight trips. I use my BRS on low power until the water steams then turn it up. This greatly improves fuel efficiency. The main design fault with BRS is the unnecessarily large gap between the flame and the pot. Another is the lack of a wind shield. I have also heard you can melt the pot stand off them if your pot runs dry while the burner is full on. Titanium pots are really limited to boiling water since as a poor conductor its easy to burn food. I therefore use a light aluminium pot which serves all purposes and improves boiling efficiency. Its cheaper than titanium too yet a similar weight. Everything including BRS, lighter, utensils, pot scrubber and gas bottle packs into my pot. I will only use a jet boil when I can borrow it from someone else in our party. It's way to heavy to be an advantage. Thanks Miranda for encouraging people to think about the pros and cons of jetboil versus BRS. Its been a worthwhile conversation and confirmed to me that for my needs BRS is more than adequate.

[@jinpae6972]

Still waiting for Taste Testing Backpacking Meals Pt 2! Love the Jetboil Flash, have one myself. Piezo still works, guess I was one of the lucky ones.

[@DingledadsTheDemon]

Great video

[@kat.p.b.5193]

i love my mini-mo (piezo been working 2.5 years) and when i go lite or cold i love my fancy-feast alcohol stove😸

[@jlscielo]

I will stick with the lower priced one. 😂 🎉 Thanks for the informative video. I can enjoy nature for the extra minute and a half. Excellent video as always!

[@MichaelRussell-go3xh]

For backpacking, I use my BRS with a homemade aluminum foil windscreen and a pot that has heat fins like the Jetboil's. Those two things leveled the play field and I deep sixed my much heavier Jetboil. Both stoves will do the job well - it's just a matter of preference. When conditions dictate otherwise, I use Esbit tabs (super ultra lite) or my 52 year old SEVA 123r (freezing temperatures or if I need to signal orbiting space craft).

[@jeffclark8555]

I have a JB Flash that I’ve had for many years. It’s very reliable and well used. More recently as I hike more I have a BRS and 750 ml titanium pot. My entire cook kit including fuel fits in the pot. I really like this set up. Also have a Trangia. It really just depends on what I’m doing and what I’m cooking.

[@PrepperNation_H]

I own Jetboil because it's windy here and my BRS 3000T was too inefficient in wind, took forever to boil using a ton of fuel. VERY happy with jetboil micromo. I also became tired of having to fashion windscreens. Now it's just easy cook, always.

[@mattward8305]

To fix the piezo ignitor, use a fine grade fingernail file (or sanding paper) to scuff up the wire tip. My replacement burner had the same issue.

[@canadakaren1131]

Yo “Techno Marmot!” love it ❤

[@MirandaGoesOutside]

Yes!! It’s from Kula Cloth!!

[@canadakaren1131]

@@MirandaGoesOutside I know, now we need to see you dance! 😁

[@matt-snow]

I have the Jetboil Sol titanium edition. Recently, I ordered a Jetboil Stash stove to replace the original stove that came with the my Sol, as the new Stash stove is also titanium. It’s the same style as the BRS, but more robust. I find it a really good upgrade to all titanium, while still keeping the nice flux ring in the picture. It also leaves more room in my Sol’s cup for storage since the new stove is smaller.

[@jamesswantusch235]

I have both of those stoves. I use the Jetboil for longer trips or when there is a large group of us. It's sooo fast. I haven't experienced ignition failure except on a few occasions where it took 2 or 3 tries to start it.

[@MirandaGoesOutside]

That’s amazing!! It seems like some of us just have bad luck 🍀

[@nicktabaczka]

Great experiment and fair experience-expectation-based recommendations! Now I just need to convince my buddy to stop cooking in his JetBoil so it doesn’t taste like all the previous things he’s cooked.

[@skizifacation]

"Mike Tyson is a basketball player " oh Miranda you crack me up!

[@mmitchell1727]

Yeah, my jetboil for 15 years is rock solid. I havent used the replacement pietzo yet, or however you spell it lol. My bottom holder plastic rim did break but I dont use it.

[@mscottsummers]

You’re absolutely correct in your opinion. There’s no “right” answer. Both have a useful use case for backpacking. I will say my typical go to is the JetBoil. It goes on just about every camping adventure I’m on. (It’s the best field coffee maker in the world in my opinion.) My only complaint would be the piezo igniter for it… let’s just say it struggles. I don’t think it’s defective since multiple strikes will get it to spark, but I’ve noticed that depending on humidity, temperature, etc it can be temperamental. I keep my trusty zippo with me just in case, but I feel the frustration.

[@icedtorres]

I have the original jetboil flash from 14 years ago. The piezo still works.

[@kcricket39]

I have the GSI Pinnacle Stove, and I think it is another great middle ground option that is a bit overlooked. It is $50 regular price, but I found it at Sierra for $28.

[@ofthenearfuture]

I have an MSR Pocket Rocket and Windburner (jet boil), but more often than not I'm bringing my windburner even for multiday backpacking trips

[@BristolianAbroad]

I love my Trangia, its a little heavy, but if you want to move beyond just boiling water or you're cooking for multiple people its great. I've used it on Dartmoor, and here in the PNW. Plus it won't tip over, doesn't use a fuel canister and Heet (or methylated spirits) is readily available. I also have a Trangia triangle but you can't get those over here.

[@Funkteon]

I solo trekked for 4 days through the Wadi Rum desert and used a Trangia the entire time with an Alocs Trangia stand, all of which fits snugly into a 1.1L GSI Soloist which includes a cup/bowl and lid. A 3F-UL windshield also wraps perfectly around the Alocs stand within the bowl circumference, and all of this together allowed me to cook and boil water for 96hrs while only carrying 350ml of methylated spirits on top of the 80ml I started off with in the Trangia. Gas cannisters are for people who never leave the comfort of their well-trodden hiking paths with a store every 50-100km...

[@Andy-Mesa]

FireMaple Petrel HX pot is $18 and fits perfectly on the Soto Windmaster for a fraction of a JetBoil's cost.

[@beeswildlife]

Once I went Jetboil I never looked back! They also have an ultralight option, the Jetboil Stash which I love for backpacking!

[@Funkteon]

I solo trekked for 4 days through the Wadi Rum desert and used a Trangia the entire time with an Alocs Trangia stand, all of which fits snugly into a 1.1L GSI Soloist which includes a cup/bowl and lid. A 3F-UL windshield also wraps perfectly around the Alocs stand within the bowl circumference, and all of this together allowed me to cook and boil water for 96hrs while only carrying 350ml of methylated spirits on top of the 80ml I started off with in the Trangia. Gas cannisters are for people who never leave the comfort of their well-trodden hiking paths with a store every 50-100km...

[@sYBtyumen]

BRS is great spare item. And great for coffee making when you don't want to unpack a cooking system.

[@aurtisanminer2827]

I like to use my jet boil in the winter time because the extra efficiency is really useful for melting snow. Otherwise in the summer, I just use my lighter weight stove because I never run out of fuel on a hiking trip.

[@russelljackman1413]

I was so happy (for YOU) that you are familiar with--and own--the Soto Windmaster stove! I absolutely love mine. I have use it, successfully, in very windy conditions. I believe its 4Flex pot support system is superior to the BRS pot support system, and fortunately, I have never had an issue with the piezo electric switch on the Soto. ~~Back to the movie!~~ I absolutely burst into a wheezer when you were discussing the instability of the BRS setup at approximately 6:12 about the tent fart (Hahahahahahahaha) and your inset/edit character and I simultaneously said, "WHAT???" Hahahahahaha!!! That was hilarious!!! I send my great love, admiration and gratitude to your post production/editing team!!! They must be such a joy to work with! As always, big thanks and lots of love to you, Miranda, and Rainer and the whole bunch for bringing great tips, ideas, and happiness to the world! You are the best! 😁🥰❤❤❤ P.S. The Soto Windmaster is currently on sale at Amazon for $64.44; an 8% price reduction, as of 4/9/2023.

[@josiebones1]

I like to combine a light weight stove with a pot that has a heat exchanger. The Soto Windmaster and an Olicamp XTS for example. Firemaple also makes pots with a built in heat exchanger. I'm currently experimenting with pairing my BRS_3000T with the Jetboil Stash pot for a great light weight and fast boiling system. The arms of the BRS actually fit into the fins on the Flux ring on the bottom of the Stash pot. It boils quickly and is more stable than any other BRS/pot combo that I have tried.

[@Case16710]

I split the difference and got a Soto Windmaster a couple years ago. It’s right in between these two in terms of weight, cost, and stability, while being just about as fast and efficient as the Jetboil. So far, the piezo still works too.

[@myself248]

My pick: The cheap burner, plus a knockoff heat-exchanger pot to accelerate the boil, plus 3d-printing my own tripod for the fuel canister for stability. Total outlay $53 plus an hour of print time, and I've got everything except the locking nubbins and the koozie.

[@lethiapage4767]

The little handheld stoves can be stabilized somewhat with a base sold separately, similar to what is provided with the jetboil. Also you can bury your fuel canister halfway in sand or dirt or snow. Doesnt secure the pot but helps in general. You can increase fuel efficiency and speed up cook times with a shield, can be shaped out of tin foil and wrap it around the setup. Allow about 4-6in clearance around the fuel and high enough to protect about half your pot. This keeps the heat near your food and keeps flame from going out in the wind.

[@DeeJayEll]

Would love to see how they compare in windy conditions. Is this not the Jetboils forte? Loved the video btw. 👍

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I bought a Snowpeak Gigapower Light Max stove like 15 years ago, not sure they still make them, but it’s a good stove that weight 56.5 grams (so much less than some stoves but much more than a BRS stove). It’s a fine stove that serves its function well. I also use a Redbull can alcohol burner and the whole system for that including a fuel bottle and windscreen/pot stand weighs like 39.5 grams, and I made that whole system from repurposed items, so it was free except my labor. It’s not super efficient, but it’s super lightweight.

[@charlesquick3656]

I have both, I really really like my jet boil less fuel, keeps water hotter longer,blah blah blah, but like you on long trip I use my BRS ( toaks) style stove.

[@m1sterpunch]

starting with a BRS and then upgrading to a Jetboil or an MSR PocketRocket and have the BRS as a backup. Win all around. The BRS is the perfect entrylevel BP stove. Awesome review though.

[@emmac4499]

1:36 Adjuster = “Doohickey” - Miranda 2021 😂

[@rachelstewart1526]

I would love if you could do a video talking about fringe season backpacking and how to buy the best gear for summer AND fringe. I start end of April/early May in Wisconsin and it can still get quite chilly. I really am trying to get the best bang for my buck with the most versatility in my system. (I’m a middle of the road weight person, opting for light options in some areas in order to have comfort in others if that helps)

[@michelstronguin6974]

Great and refreshing comparison! Personally, I did my best to get the best of both worlds and so I got the Jetboil Stash combo, and sold away the stove that comes with that combo since its low BTU, has no wind protection and doesn't have a regulator, I kept only the pot which is awesome, it has the heat exchanger fins under it to capture sideways heat from the stove (which makes it super efficient). The stove I use with this pot is the soto windmaster. The combination wasn't my idea, it was found to be the most efficient combination that is currently on the market. Boil time of 1 minute and 40 ish seconds, handles wind extremely well since its the soto windmaster, boils at half the fuel consumption that the windmaster would do on its own, and in super cold weather it has a regulator to make sure you can keep a steady rate of gas output. The Jetboil Stash is the most lightweight pot Jetboil makes, so the combination of it plus the BRS could be an interesting review for ultralighters who want to have roughly double their fuel efficiency yet don't need the windmaster since they aren't in cold weather - maybe it could mean carrying a smaller gas canister since you get double the boils, or carrying only one gas canister instead of two in a group hike. Worth a check for sure.

[@sar4x474]

For anyone interested in the BRS, consider Walmart’s Ozark Trails 4 in 1 compact stove for only $14.95. Boils 2 cups in about 2.5 minutes and comes with a stand, case and an adapter to use Coleman cylinder tanks. Works great!

[@TheMcspreader]

You can buy very inexpensive pots with heat exchange rings now. I got a Fire Maple heat exchange mini kettle that's light and less than $30 although they do a small pot for under $25 that means you don't need a separate mug.

[@HikeCalifornia]

Oh wow. I've had a JetBoil for twelve years and the piezo stopped working on like the 3rd trip after I bought it. Here I had assumed the new ones would be better, but alas that seems to not be the case!

[@victorespinosa422]

shout out to the editor that added the animation of the color changing indicator that followed Miranda's finger, that was sick and subtle

[@RoyADane]

I've used a Jetboil Flash for the past 3 years ( including a PCT Through hike attempt ), and the Piazzo has only failed once and was quickly fixed.

[@DM-fv7hw]

Thanks, Miranda! I have both stoves and I am about to sell my Jetboil due to its weight and bulk. Cheers!

[@K6ARK]

Was doing the JMT with a few friends and while cooking dinner at the outlet of Thousand Island Lake, one of the friends had one of the BRS stoves. It sprung a propane leak at the stove-canister connection and proceeded to ignite blowtorch the canister toward a catastrophic explosion. We flung it into the outlet of the lake to put it out (and recovered it) but I can't, in good conscience, recommend trusting these stoves. You get what you pay for.

[@danielsingh9415]

There's a rubber gasket to seal the canister to the stove, and it pays to bring an extra one, tho scary way find out u need one 😮😅

[@K6ARK]

@@danielsingh9415 yes the gasket was still present but broke or got pinched. It was too cooked to tell once we got it out and cooled down.

[@AndrewB416]

My MSR Titan kettle/pot thingy is almost $100 CAD now. Makes the JetBoil Flash system seem not too bad. I'm still a PocketRocket Deluxe lover though haha.

[@martinwelch5774]

Love my Jetboil Flash. If I need a lighter option, I would probably go for the Jetboil Stash (260g, sale price $112), but could just consider the Flash a luxury item.