200 (Bulgarians) Two-Handed Swordsmen vs 200 (Teutons) Champions | AoE II: Definitive Edition

The Two-Handed Swordsman is an infantry unit in Age of Empires II that can be trained at the Barracks once the Imperial Age is reached. It is the fourth tier upgrade of the Militia line.
Two-Handed Swordsmen are available to all civilizations except for the Persians.
Armor: Bagains (+5 melee armor, Bulgarians only)
The Champion is an infantry unit in Age of Empires II that can be trained at the Barracks once the Imperial Age is reached. It is the final tier in the Militia line.
Teutons: Champions have +2/+0 armor.
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[@MrDibara]

HOLY SHIT, I forgot how awesome the Bulgarians theme sounded! Thanks a lot! 👍 Also, the Two Handed Swordsman will always be my favourite out of these two design-wise. I wish the Mercenaries system from AoE3 could be implemented here and the Two Handed Swordsman was the main final upgrade for the sword line, while the Champion was a Mercenary unit. Or the other way around. :P

[@hunorferencbalint4483]

Alas, only one solution remains… BRING FORWARD THE TEUTONIC KNIGHTS!

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

This was an even matchup. If you bring teutonic knights, then expect to be answered with crossbows, cav archers or even siege, given their reduced speed. And pretty sure the opponent wouldn't leave their ranged units without pikes to protect against cavalry, cavalry which has reduced speed.

[@666sentrax]

Best part of this video is the music tbh tbf, in particular the part starting at 0:31.

[@gregbro2636]

by far the best civ theme song

[@mubashirulmoula1798]

My most favorite civ theme in the game start from there. First 30 seconds is also good but not my favorite.

[@frankxu1365]

Pretty much an even fight as both sides take 7 hits (60/9 vs 70/10)! Considering giving Bulgarian two handed swordman a try now!

[@sekaidoggo7610]

Specially since they have free upgrades!

[@Bzhydack]

Spanish Monks vs Teuton Monks! GO!

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

Catholic vs Protestant Tacos vs Sauerkraut 🇪🇸 vs 🇩🇪

[@IammAdriian]

Yeeees! I wanna see that!!! Since convertion rate is random, either one could win 🤔

[@christiangreff5764]

The fandom wiki gives the following formula for conversions: Converting monks perform/"stack" conversion intervalls CI (roughly 1 second) against the opposing units conversion resistance con_res (base 0 for all units except scouts and eagle warrios) 1) up to a minimum number of CIs CI_min (base 4), nothing happens 2) after that, the monk has a 0.28/con_res chance to convert the unit at the end of each CI 3) after a number of CIs CI_max (base 10), the formula switches to 10/con_res (effectively immediatly converting all units below 10 con_res) The Teutonic bonus adds 2 to con_res, 1 to CI_min and 2 to CI_max The Inquisition techonlogy reduces both CI_min and CI_max by 1 Faith adds 3 to con_res, 2 to CI_min and 4 to CI_max The resulting stats are: 1) Teutonic monks with con_res 5, CI_min of 6 and CI_max of 15 2) Spanish monks with con_res 3, CI_min of 6 and CI_max of 14 In conclusion: the Teutonic monks should have an edge with a chance of converting after ca. 6 seconds of 0.28/3 ~ 9.33% per second vs. a chance of being converted of 0.28/5 ~ 5.6% per second starting after the same intervall; this is further improved by a full second advantage on the garuanteed conversion after 14 seconds vs. the deadline of being converted after 15 seconds. Should probably compound in a Teuton victory over large numbers; but the micro and chance would make such predictions not exactly reliable. If the battle is performed without heresy, both effects should be player and not unit dependant, so no "hyper monks" in either direction. Then the Sicilian monks with First Crusade (a second time the Faith buffs) would be even stronger though (Sicilians with Teuton ally as the absolute kings of Heresy-less pure monk conversion battles; what a useless crown).

[@Pei_Bo]

@@MrAllmightyCornholioz lol there are no tacos in Spain, that's Mexico. Spain has paella, gazpacho, tortilla and jamon iberico

[@Solstice710]

I didn't expect the final :0

[@quaintserpent]

Two-handed swordsmen look way cooler

[@michaelqiu9722]

No, 2HS is the most ugly of the entire militia line

[@aminghasemi2621]

When I was a kid playing the original campaign, I always skipped the last swordsman upgrade because I liked the two handed skin too much :))

[@fieryr]

@@michaelqiu9722 most ugly are by far longswords

[@coxxen]

Not only cause these bad boys that look greater than champion, but also the konnik and viable cav archers make this my favorite civ

[@dunndudebemelol]

Peace almost won

[@devilgamer667]

Two handed swordsmen fought bravely

[@earlsinclair9299]

Now imagine a Malayan and a Bulgerian Two-Handed-Swordsman had a baby together....

[@IammAdriian]

Wow, unexpected!!

[@dustymanjuiice4445]

Bulgarian militia gain 5+ armor.. giving them 12+4 attack 9 mele armor and 6 archer defense

[@atakanyildirim9392]

How can u control two sides at once?

[@stefanandrejcik571]

Shift + CTRL + F1 - F8 That is how you Can switch players, if U do F4 u pick player 4 for example

[@atakanyildirim9392]

@@stefanandrejcik571 Finally I found! Great tip man! Thanks a lot!

[@amirsalehabadi7243]

Wait what that was surprising

[@luigisc7934]

Hooooly, thats what we call aggressive entertainment

[@eM-ed5pz]

That was close!

[@dustymanjuiice4445]

It wouldn't have been if he had all the units together because he had more Champions on one side outnumbering them

[@njdutoit]

A Two handed swordsman that's actually better than a champion. And I thought the Germans had the best infantry.

[@christiangreff5764]

@Krzysztof Milański Not infinite anymore, if I recall correctly? :(

[@arubahachigatsu3022]

@@christiangreff5764 yes

[@Lauth3]

@Krzysztof Milański I think most of the games are done before you run out of that much food

[@proutchouet]

If Germans means goths, you're right, their abylity to flood is great. But Teutons just have a few more melee armor and except for their slow melee king (the one whose loved by noobs), teutonic infantry is less efficient than japanese one (better rate of fire) and maybe than aztec and slavic ones (strike harder, have trample damage, which is a fucking good advantage in big infantry fight), but those need a special tech you can't get before imperial age (that's why Aztecs are victims and Slaves prefer cavalry during most of a game).

[@faber2589]

This is one strat i use constantly. Show konnik they build halberdier i switch to these guys and clean house

[@chingamfong]

How would you counter mass archers as Bulgarians? When playing them I find the tech tree limiting in that aspect

[@faber2589]

@@chingamfong couple catapults or garrisoned rams

[@michaelmccarty1327]

Are their skirmishers severely underpowered? I’d probably try to mix skirmishers with light cavalry with Stirrups

[@dustymanjuiice4445]

​@@chingamfongonagers and skirms

[@LinkMarioSamus]

Don't the Teutons get extra melee armor? Am I forgetting some Bulgarian infantry bonus aside from Bagains?

[@mikrob9513]

it's mostly pathfinding. It's a 50-50 fight both units die in 7 hits

[@christiangreff5764]

Nope, but bagains is +5. With the Champions +1 melee armor and the teutons +2, an effective difference of +2 in favor of the Bulgarians. But 10 less HP and 1 less attack. Both have the same rate of fire (2.0). So, in total: 1) Bulgarians: 12+4 =16 attack against 1+2+3=6 armor for 10 damage per hit against 70 HP means 1 kill/7 attacks (14 sec) 2) Teutons: 13+4=17 attack against 0+5+3=8 armor for 9 damage per hit against 60 HP means 1 kill/7 attacks (14 sec, with 3 points of overkill) ... My math says this should be closer to even? Probably a pathing and targeting thing (small advantages in faster eliminated units should snowball according to Manchester's square law).

[@Altarknight]

@@christiangreff5764 u mean Lanchester's square law :)

[@christiangreff5764]

@@Altarknight Dammit, I just knew that wasn't quite right! At least my math hasn't been shown to be totally flawed. Yet ...

[@BestFriendOfDog]

@@christiangreff5764 the overkill means that more teuton's champions waste more hits in comparison to bulgarians, it is a practically small difference but it compounds the bigger the fight.

[@user-gm5rw3bi4e]

how

[@matiasalejandro1864]

I thought that teutonic champs would sin bye far

[@dustymanjuiice4445]

Bulagarians have 5+ mele armor giving them 9 teut champs only get 6 armor

[@ShadowXg0z]

no waaaaaaaaay

[@alexanfung]

so it can still be some randomness

[@Spiror]

At melee are equal but champion better vs range so is better teutons champions

[@Cyprous]

But bulgarians have free upgrades and faster blacksmith, its basically a tie

[@Asterix958]

@@Cyprous No. Bulgarian unique tech is more expensive than Champion upgrade. %16.6 less hp is a lot. It isn't comparable to free militia line upgrades. In conclusion, Bulgarian THS is weak and need buff.

[@sheep6665]

@@Asterix958 The cost of all militia line upgrades up to champion is higher than that of bagains, which is what we should actually compare in this case, not just champion. This is not counting the cheaper bs techs and timing advantage. The fact that archers kill them is irrelevant - they kill all champions but malians and militia line in lategame is always a situational switch, which is much easier and cheaper for Bulgarians, while being only weaker than total of like 5 civs as far as champion vs. champion goes, so since it's unlikely that in game vs. Bulgarians either side will try to switch to militia first(of all the civs I think only Goths will default to it), the best the opponent will have from his barracks when he starts preparing the switch will be man at arms. I'd say it's fair tradeoff.

[@Asterix958]

@@sheep6665 Unique tech supposed to make unit stronger but bagain give mediocre bonus while making it weaker from other point. +5 melee armor is only useful against low melee damage units. For instance, against Paladin, it gives very little. Being weak against archer is important weakness. High number of champion can overpower arbalest but THS is so much weak against arbalest also die to Hand canonneer in only 3 hits while Champion is 4. In conclusion, bagain tech is bad and need rework.

[@saman7004]

The excellent single battle of Champion is Japanese’s; The team one would be Slavs

[@harshsharma9233]

Next Burmese champion Vs slavs

[@Ignismari]

Slavic champions will win easily, considering they beat Japanese. But only thanks to 'Druzhina' tech.

[@harshsharma9233]

But still wanna see what Burmese extra attack can do

[@Ignismari]

@@harshsharma9233 Not so much against those beasts. However, that would be spectacular showing.

[@Ironmaidenportugal]

Champion my ass!!!

[@thegreatbearwolf2915]

Aztec, Japanese and Slavic champions can beat them.

[@AzraelCaptain]

Rusev crush