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@minatoaqutansaiko4 ай бұрын
hello,I just want to use one earphone and don't want to be tired of switching devices all the time depending on the type of music. I listen to 80% classical and 20% jazz and pop. I have also seen the audeze mm500 so far, and I think the instrument part is quite good, and the vocals are in the front, so the female voice sounds good. Do you recommend other headphones at this level? I think the sound field of the mm500 is okay. For classical music, the instrument tone is not too modified. , the low-frequency dive is enough for jazz. I don’t know if I understand this right?
@oxyoxi32134 ай бұрын
Why is it so hard for audio reviewers to admit, they cannot hear any difference? RESPECT
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
To be honest, it's actually harder just to convince you don't hear a difference than it is to admit. It's very easy to convince yourself (myself) that there's a difference with sighted listening, have to subject yourself to a blind test you can't game to really disabuse yourself (myself) of those conclusions.
@rogerhuston82874 ай бұрын
It really depends if your headphone can show the difference. He only mentioned Campfire Aras. For IEMs, both have enough power and as they aren't particularly sensitive, both will appear quiet. If you want to power headphones the bigger amp will give more power, the question is if your headphones need it.
@vaneast4114 ай бұрын
get more resolving gear and you will hear the differences
@harackmw4 ай бұрын
@@vaneast411 such as?
@vaneast4114 ай бұрын
@@harackmw a highly resolving set of headphones such as the HE1000Se's will show you the differences in gear down chain as one example
@raphaelmeillat85273 ай бұрын
You truly make some of the best reviews in the business! Thorough, honest, relevant, and last bit not least, down-to-earth! Thanks for your hard work! 🙂
@orangeyellow-me1pzАй бұрын
Dang, y'all can't hear the differences between music players? Why can I? Or are you all old? My R5 saber sounded very different from my Surfans F28. Its a cheaper player that I bought to tide me over till I get a replacement for the R5 Saber. My echo ox explorer sounded great but it dodnt have the power I needed. My Cayin N3 sounded way different from my Fiio X3. My Sony 1V also sounds different from my LG V60.
@Chris-tf7gi4 ай бұрын
After watching your video I checked specifically if the Hiby R6 mIII has been updated with parametric EQ. Yep! I've been using it since the update without knowing it got this massive upgrade. Parametric EQ is absolutely in the audio settings now, the exact same one that is in your video. Only my Hiby R6 III cost about 3x less than the device you are reviewing. PEQ is the only thing the R6 III was missing. The R6 III has a huge battery that lasts for days, which is mostly what I like about the Hiby. Its my sound "brick" that isn't going to conk out on me when I'm listening to my audio to fall asleep. Think I paid $500 for my R6 III. I'm not sure what you're getting for $1500 more. If you like it, be happy! (I took the screen protecter off just now too. Much better!)
@CompoundNihilist4 ай бұрын
Brilliant review and it takes courage to state for the world to hear... the emperor has no clothes.
@eruilluvitar4 ай бұрын
As someone who has spent way too much on audio, I'll be honest: I also don't understand the R8ii, or even the RS8 (which I own). Their only major upside to other DAPs is the battery size, but definitely not worth 10x more, and not even always worth the extra weight if we're really being honest. Great review, as always!
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
If I only charged this thing once a month... I'd consider living with the size :D
@Ducbloke4 ай бұрын
Another great one in the books. I love that you’re using Poweramp! This is my go to app for many reasons. I do like a volume knob on my DAPs,but having volume memory is pretty good. An analogue knob ensures this as well. Great honesty on your listening experience. Having a DAP with that much power is also something I like as well. It’s ubiquitous when you’re bouncing between outputs. Having more power does more efficiently drive high impedance circuits. As for Parametric EQ, I’ve been doing a lot of work in this area. I’ll message you
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Poweramp is goated.
@--simplify2 ай бұрын
Let's make a video on how to set poweamp equilizer
@traktorpro104 ай бұрын
Watercooler thread on Headfi will not like this review 🤣🤣🤣
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
What's their take on it?
@traktorpro104 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview The consensus is always that the more expensive the better sounding, you are the exception which I appreciate especially because of your access to all price ranges if IEM's and it not affecting how you evaluate Daps sound wise (transducers affect sound more than source imo having owned multiple Daps and dongles myself).
@maegnificant4 ай бұрын
I did not believe in DACs/Amps making a difference myself. Then I compared the Elysian Annihilator 23 with my smartphone dongle (Moondrop Dawn) vs a friends Shanling M9+ DAP. Same files, same music. It sounded much better on his DAP. @@traktorpro10
@MrColdchillin814 ай бұрын
@@traktorpro10 of course the iems/headphones affect sound more. However the idea that amping doesn’t affect it is kinda ludicrous. I’m assuming he used single ended for the comparison - which is hamstringing the dap right there - it’s made with balanced topology so he should use balanced. I know he’s got a philosophical issue with balanced but that’s silly. Example chord uses a pulse array dac which by design is single ended, it’s fed into a single ended designed amp. Including a balanced output would actually degrade the quality so it’s not included. That’s done similarly here except in reverse. Even the measurements measure better. In this instance it’s actually objectively better lol
@davidibarra67304 ай бұрын
Water-cooler crowd is strange they are too emotionally attached. They go from friendly to mob pretty quickly 😂
@lcwpg4 ай бұрын
Hiby R4 probably the one i would buy if i really want a DAP. $250 and it's the right size and have all the output i need.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
That one seems pretty well-spec'd, though the battery life claims are disappointing.
@TWidXugA14 ай бұрын
Great video! Love your candour with regard to things like daps, cables, burnin, etc. Being aware and overcoming our own bias towards the shiny new, expensive thing is not trivial. With regards to system-wide PEQ, I've recently found that there is a dedicated Poweramp eq app that does that really well (after some tweaking) on Android devices, so I think that having system wide PEQ out of the box is now more in the "nice to have" category of features of a dap.
@Tssukiii4 ай бұрын
Just got me an used Fiio X3 for 30€ And it’s awesome :)
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Based.
@lacsativ13 ай бұрын
I bought a FiiO M11S based on your review and I couldn't be happier. I'm using it on a daily basis with all my IEMs/buds/and even some headphones like the HD6XX and the Hifiman Edition XS. Plenty of power with balanced cables. If I heard that right, this Hibby flagship goes up to 700 something mw? That's crazy considering that the M11S can do up to 600 something mw with the balanced connection and it costs so much less.
@DanRC694 ай бұрын
Poweramp ALSO has parametric adjustment, so they BOTH can do that.
@andydj2614 ай бұрын
Will you be reviewing the R4 - which obvs has balanced & PEQ functionality?
@arshedfazal4 ай бұрын
True if the m300 got a 5* review at 200 bucks, the R4 with PEQ, plug-ins and balance output should be at least 5* at 250
@lokrj4 ай бұрын
Oh boi, lemme grab the popcorn first
@rupbhatt4 ай бұрын
Again another DAP gimped by SD665 processor. Too much cost cutting by the manufacturers. Using an alnost 6 year old processor based on 11nm fab ensures you get really no advantage of bigger battery due to poor thermal efficiency.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
TBH I don't think the processor has to do with the battery life in this case, the M300 is using the same processor with a battery 15% the size and it gets the same if not a bit better battery life. Seems it's more to do with the audio architecture.
@marlonsalugao62722 ай бұрын
That's what you call an honest , fact- based review.
@cocktailuk2 күн бұрын
Just because he is honest doesn't mean there is no difference in audio quality, it just means he isn't able to hear it, which could be very misleading for people who want to upgrade
@marlonsalugao6272Күн бұрын
@@cocktailuk Nah!!! Do you own one? I love mine . Listen to it first . And you will know what he is talking about
@cocktailuk17 сағат бұрын
@@marlonsalugao6272 I have the hiby r6 iii and the r8 ii and their is a clear difference in sound quality
@F8Msssss4 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Thanks for being transparent on everything. Using my A55 and considering whether I should upgrade to the WM1AM2
@MrColdchillin814 ай бұрын
You should. The dsee alone is worth it
@carlosfilho94044 ай бұрын
Tiny DAPs are great. Still using my Sony a55 when traveling. At home, I use the Oriolus Dps-L2. Amazing DAP for the price I paid for. Hint: not MRSP
@matthewsaul25314 ай бұрын
I was initially disappointed with the sound quality of the R8. With longer listening it was the control, the holographic wider sound that separated it from my cheaper daps. Everything was so controlled and instruments and voices came from a jet black background. I was expecting to be blown away by it at the time, and never was. Now I prefer mid tier daps, I gave up looking for the perfect sound. I just want to enjoy my music collection and many songs I just enjoy more on my cheaper daps because I'm not focused on sound quality, just the music
@ElNINETEENTH4 ай бұрын
There is a solution from Joe bloggs on head-fi where you download files they add certain plugins in order to make the soundstage crazy wide and holographic when I did this the R8ii and the R6P2 sound very expensive.
@ImAWSMDanny4 ай бұрын
Question. Would you rather have the R8 II or about 9 M300's? Please reply, this is urgent.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Maybe R8II, keeping 9x M300s charged sounds like work 🥵
@ImAWSMDanny4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview Good point
@ronenbuium76994 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your honest review...
@pelilin25193 ай бұрын
This guy is taking the sharur path.
@ElNINETEENTH3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ifan27053 ай бұрын
lmao audiophile is full of douchebag, being honest is not allowed
@Weareonenation3033 ай бұрын
Sharur is low effort rage bait, SR is not.
@nikdhamigo64764 ай бұрын
for me,I wouldn't take r8 ii out with me. I had m300.it's pocket and handy. for the sound quality,m300 is decent compare to phone and some dac, m300 is better.
@hpwrotethis4 ай бұрын
Glad you validated my m300 purchase even if I don't use it anymore 😅
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Purchase validation: It's what I'm here for.
@joegarcia62764 ай бұрын
Now you have to review the FiiO m23 and compare the sound to the m11s dap which I have and love with tidal HiFi plus
@cody112ng3 ай бұрын
Are you going to review the Hiby R4?
@schoi6044 ай бұрын
The new R4 has balanced out.
@kevingest54524 ай бұрын
I feel like if there were a reason to buy something like this, it would be for high impedance and/or inefficient full sized head phones. If you have an expensive collection of high impedance dynamic drivers and low sensitivity planers, and you want a DAP that's just going to drive everything well, then I would think it makes sense to get a big chonky DAP .... for IEMs, expensive Daps or headphone amps make no sense at all.
@Xerpocalypse_4 ай бұрын
Conceptually speaking, it’s very very cool that they decided to use an FPGA, but I don’t see myself buying one of these any time soon. It’s way out of my budget.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Agreed it is cool, wonder what sorts of things they could emulate with an FPGA -- e.g. could they have alternate DAC designs that have higher harmonic distortions?
@wahid-lg1kk4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReviewmy dongle has it. The tempotec sonata bhd pro. Change tuning with firmware.
@SaveMeAzathoth4 ай бұрын
It's certainly a very pretty device. If the explanation for the price was "because it's basically jewelry" instead of source memes I'd probably be like "sure makes sense" (and still stick with a cheaper player).
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
To some degree it certainly is about paying for the physicality of a device like this. And in that case I'm probably not the best target, 'cause I prefer the compact form factors to the ornate, impressive ones.
@jburtonca27 күн бұрын
For me the $1,800 price difference makes this a no brainer, it's the Digital M300 all the way.
@Roni-u2c16 күн бұрын
Another big question - Do they sound better or marginally better then a quality Smartphone (When connected to a quality IEM for example)? Thank you
@resottolamontagna9044 ай бұрын
You are one of the few honest reviewers that I know. Thanks to exists!
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I don't think others are dishonest FWIW, either (A) they hear things I don't hear, or (B) they think they do.
@ryujinn85312 ай бұрын
Please put review out for HiBy R4 ... Ive been saving money to buy dap and its right around my budget
@warth454 ай бұрын
i need a volume knob wait, did you use the pixel 4xl as a daily driver?
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I don't think I ever really used the 4XL as a daily driver except when I did a review of it years ago. Now it's a test device.
@jebar9083 ай бұрын
Do the m300 vs the r4
@aaronfriedman82014 ай бұрын
I compared the A&K SR35 to the Hibi R62 pro and they sound completely different. They are both around the 700-800-dollar mark. It is really hard to fathom that these DACs sound alike. Also, I would never buy a DAP that has no Parametric EQ. All Headphones that are not digital processed could use a little EQ as they all have anomalies at some frequencies.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate on "sound completely different"? I have not heard those DAPs, but I truly find that baffling.
@ElNINETEENTH4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReviewbro the sound signature would be different, noise floor, soundstage and lot of things. You could pick up the difference between those daps using iems like Mest2 or Radon 6 easily. Using mid tier iems won’t cut it.
@ishmone214 ай бұрын
You show alot of love to the hiby m300 👍🏾. Let me go ahead and buy this thing. This is my first dap ever. I hope it's loud enough. I've seen your other video about this unit, and you said the volume is not really loud. I need a music player anyway for spotify. I'm tired of using my Samsung s24 ultra for spotify
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Careful with your hearing homie.
@ishmone214 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview I will. And thank you for the hiby m300 review.
@KLiNoTweet2 ай бұрын
With highres flac or dsd-files 256 GB is not that much. (One file could have 1 gb). For that price it should have 1 tb at least. I like your review and have subbed 😊
@andrewmorrison9049Ай бұрын
What's the name of the battery bar app you mention at 16:00, and how can I set it up so the music app is pinned, but everything else is password protected?
@SuperReviewАй бұрын
App is called Overlay Battery Bar. If it's not already enabled by default, go into Android settings > Security > More security options > Enable app pinning. When you bring up the Android app switcher UI, tap the app icon at the top to get the pin option.
@LWLW444 ай бұрын
I have Hiby 6 pro ii and R8ii clear sound difference. Which one is better that depends what you like.battery life is amazing on the R8ii. I don’t agree there is no difference between DAP’s.
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
You either don't have both daps or you're coping hard trying to justify to yourself your uber expensive purchase. Judging by the price of the devices, i think it's the first one.. However if it is indeed the latter one, you messed up real big child😅
@LWLW444 ай бұрын
@@rajeebdas1724 why do you find it hard too comprehend ? I do indeed have both and can hear the difference. Also it’s not purely sound I have the R8ii also battery life. Now child please go talk shit to someone else who cares
@CryptoHealthBSC3 ай бұрын
The ones telling others they're coping are most likely the actual ones coping. 😂
@theegreatest93222 ай бұрын
I’m looking to upgrade from my fiio m11 plus . Wich one of those 2 sound better for SQ for a sound system in ur opinion ? Bass , highs , etc … the 6 or the 8
@marlon51884 ай бұрын
The Hiby R4 almost has the features that the R8 has for less if you want those and not concerned about the sound itself
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
R4 claimed battery life is a bit disappointing, does real experience match?
@marlon51884 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview playback time is usually around 10-11 hours and I think it's decent. I've had other android daps before and they performed worse. But standby time is great. Around 20% drain in the last 5 days without using it.
@capberganza4 ай бұрын
thanks for the video, love the honesty will you be reviewing the Moondrop MIAD 01?
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Nah.
@wahid-lg1kk4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReviewit eats memory cards
@jamesmiller44874 ай бұрын
The M300 seems amazing for the price! I have the R6 Pro II and am happy with it, but if I didn’t I might have gone for that one…. At $2000 the R8 II is a bit rich for me, and if I consider the legal fees if my wife found out I spent that much for a DAP, well it’s definitely out of my reach… 😂
@wongricky9095Ай бұрын
Whether R8 II worths 10 times more is one question (personally I don't think so) but saying there is no difference in sound quality between these two ... come on ... probably just like he said before there is basically no significant sound difference between different IEM cables. Sorry I don't buy this at all - I can obvious hear difference b/w different DAP, different IEM cables, ..., whether it worths the delta in price in another question.
@SuperReviewАй бұрын
Have you ever blind tested yourself to validate?
@wongricky9095Ай бұрын
@@SuperReview To be fair not for these two particular models but yes for other DAPs and cables…expensive DAPs tend to over price these days and someone can easily get better sound with desktop (or less portable) setup at much cheaper price, but there are obviously sound difference between entry level DAP and more expensive ones (same for cables imo)
@andipati28214 ай бұрын
I'll buy it if drive my xs properly. M11S still good right now 😂
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Edition XS? It doesn't require much in my experience.
@andipati28214 ай бұрын
M11S 100 step in SE with PEQ eq fiio build in and 80 in BAL connector. Its good enough for DAP. Thanks for your reviews last years
@jeffburling72243 ай бұрын
I have a pair of UE 11 Pro's that aren't getting very much use these days since I don't play music on stage anymore and I "upgraded" my cellphone to one without a headphone jack. I mostly listen to Metal...could you recommend a DAP(s) that would help me get the most out of these IEM's ? I use Tidal for their high quality source files.
@pyrojinn4 ай бұрын
I think at some price point manufacturers made DAP to be used like a desktop amp with the heft they usually have. I know there ain't any "portable" in a digital music player, but c'mon don't just make it like bricks?
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Some people like the bricks.
@unknown008083 ай бұрын
That can be used for self defence i swear. No person is walking up after getting bonk with that
@DominikPhilipp14 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. Could you try to install poweramp equalizer on the m300 to see if one can get in this way systemwide peq? Thanks
@hulmemane.t.11084 ай бұрын
Did you notice any difference in sound signature using the natively installed, HiBy music player software?
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
No.
@Alexandros_Ka4 ай бұрын
Can you add a link with the A/B switch you run your tests with? Great review!
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I just used this: www.schiit.com/products/sys
@Alexandros_Ka4 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@forbiddencue11014 ай бұрын
Have you played with the R4 from Hiby yet? I'm near pulling the trigger on one or the other. Undecided
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I haven't, no, been using R5G2 as my daily.
@aceofspades66674 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@lovehearts95662 ай бұрын
hiby r4 please
@jamesmiller44874 ай бұрын
You mention you have an audio switcher to do some blind testing. What is the name of the switcher? I’d love to pick one up!
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Schiit Sys: www.schiit.com/products/sys
@jamesmiller44874 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview Thank you!!!!!! Do you know if there is a balanced version of a switcher? I pretty much have wired everything in balanced (back in the day when I was naive enough to believe that made a difference in a home setting) and it would just be easier to keep things consistent.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Don't think Schiit makes one, but I'm sure someone does. Not something I've looked for.
@jamesmiller44874 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview No worries. Thank you!
@forbiddencue11014 ай бұрын
You choose Spotify over many hifi options. I'd love to know if you hear any difference in those as well? I personally miss spotifys interface but left them after there promise of hi-res fell through.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I haven't compared Spotify with others, but I did try to test Apple lossless vs. Apple's normal compression and couldn't hear a difference, so I don't really bother. It's not a significant difference either way.
@ElNINETEENTH4 ай бұрын
Apple Music much better than Spotify.
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
@@SuperReviewI have compared Spotify 320 kbps with the quality of my sd card songs. There though, I must say, there's an audible difference. The Spotify version distinctly sounds a bit 'dirtier' and slightly compressed laterally. The same song on my card sounds cleaner and more expansive. Not a huge difference. But it is definitely there. The problem is once I hear even a 5% difference, I can't go back really. But there definitely was a difference. I haven't checked apple music though.
@harpokrates4 ай бұрын
Can the R8 II be used as a Desktop DAC?
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Yes.
@elasmojones4 ай бұрын
go go Hiby R4
@leonardotov87334 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend.. I got R8 after 2 years battery is depleted, sent several emails to this company... no answer!!! Obviously lousy customer service if any.. after pay 2k to a device... go elsewhere
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
That's a bummer to hear, I went through customer service a couple of times and it was a smooth experience -- minus the overseas shipping costs 🫠
@UltimateEnd03 күн бұрын
IBasso DX320, thank me later
@wahid-lg1kk2 ай бұрын
Every Hiby has peq in the music player it's just not system wide. Unless the m300 has a cut down music player like the R3. Then you could download the full version and have peq. But, dude, Spotify? Really? Doesn't help your audiophile cred..
@SuperReview2 ай бұрын
What about Spotify?
@wahid-lg1kk2 ай бұрын
Dude what is it, aac 256?
@SuperReview2 ай бұрын
@@wahid-lg1kk Actin' like you can hear a difference between 256 AAC and lossless.
@wahid-lg1kk2 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview actin' like you are an audiophile 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lextr3110Ай бұрын
ibasso?
@UltimateEnd03 күн бұрын
Arguably Ibasso DX320 is going to sound better 90% of the time with quad hyper DAC. R8 II has R2R resistor ladder made for premium sound staging and orchestral music. IBasso DX320 is going to sound better but cost more.
@alexeiboukirev83574 ай бұрын
Not worth it for me. I am waiting for R5 Mk 3. R5 Mk 2 is still awesome with switchable Class A amp and 30 hours in eco mode. And it can be had for $300 now. But M300 and variants of R3 are perfect for sleeping with.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Yeah, R5G2 is still my daily DAP, the battery life + form factor are pretty excellent.
@nyverinorlyth95554 ай бұрын
An FPGA, that sounds like a dev kit lmao. I guess you can turn the dac into whatever you want lmao.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
It's a cool idea, I wonder if you could use it to emulate DACs with worse noise, distortion, etc..
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
Can I turn it into a Tesla?
@nyverinorlyth95554 ай бұрын
@@rajeebdas1724 Actually, you should be able to turn it into anything you can imagine as long as it has the same number or less unit circuit modules. Take this with a grain of salt it's been a while since I took the course that was to explain how FPGA's worked.
@brunis_m4 ай бұрын
You say “if I’m honest” so much that I automatically think you’re not being honest 😂
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
He is. He's just trying hard not to offend the dozens of divas out there who start whining when someone says their uber expensive purchase might've been unnecessary. Lol
@drtydsh4 ай бұрын
Alcantara is not good, my steering wheel turned gross after a few months of use thanks to my hand oils.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Seems like a high-touch area they woulda planned for that...
@harackmw4 ай бұрын
Everything sounds the same. Even my Hiby Dap, after being tailored to my tastes, is so close to neutral that it is boring AF. It is fine for my electronic music, but sometimes I want coloration. It would be nice if they could make some filters to try and replicate real warmth, like what you would hear with a vintage amp from the 1970s and vinyl. Some classic rock and other genres sound amazing on that, while on modern systems that era of music sounds like midrange and treble murder so people avoid it, which is such a shame.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
There is built-in parametric EQ, you can add lots of coloration to taste if you want.
@dentReviews4 ай бұрын
sorry $2k for a dap is stupid. but i mean, it came with a screen protector... so..... i'd rather use my phone with a dap that size. sheesh. and no one would hear the difference in a blind comparison. boom. you can't hear a difference because there is no difference. :-P they are both good enough to be past the threshold of hearing specs that matter... that PEQ though... that might be worth $1800 more ;) ;)
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Seems to come down to how much you care about improvements to measurements you can't hear, or how much you can convince yourself you hear them. I keep most of my music in FLAC even though I can't hear a difference vs. well-compressed MP3. But that just costs a little storage, not $2,000.
@dentReviews4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview i can hear the difference beween 256aac and lossless cd. but it is INCREDIBLY close and not always "easy." but that makes sense as CD quality was chosen by the designers because it is greater than the threshold of our frequency hearing. don't get me going on measurements ;) but no matter what you think, i don't think $2000 makes sense in the world of smartphones. I get it has better spec dac/amp, but if you consider it even possible that you can't tell a difference, you're paying more money by almost twice and getting 1/10th the functionality.
@MrColdchillin814 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview it’s also got dsp plug ins that are better then the peq. Might be fun to play with those
@illustrious4204 ай бұрын
Again and again, these device don't have a "FPGA dac", it have a PWM dac(which is way more similar to a delta sigma dac than a r2r) and a FPGA chip program to control that PWM dac. BTW you can't hear a difference doesn't mean other can't, I used to be in the "It doesn't matter" camp until I successfully a/b blind (with help from another person) 3 otg usb cable.
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
If he can't hear a difference, it's end of story right?? Should I bother if others can or cannot? If I can't, I'll happily save my money and laugh at others who spend like they're possessed 😂😂
@UltimateEnd03 күн бұрын
Love my iBasso DX320
@marike1100Ай бұрын
HI-bee, not hibby. “Hi” as in Hi-Fi. So grating every time he says their name.
@SuperReviewАй бұрын
(1) It's a made-up word, (2) get over it. No one pronounces my last name "correctly," I have complained about it zero times in my life.
@UltimateEnd03 күн бұрын
WiFi is pronounced "wee-fee"
@StarBuccaneers1684 ай бұрын
That's one chunker. For $2000 it better be the thinnest DAP in history.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
If you get into a fight and need to hurt someone, you're gonna be happy you have this in your shoulder bag.
@patrickdanneker54804 ай бұрын
most audiophiles logic goes like: the more expensive the bigger and heavier it needs to be
@StarBuccaneers1684 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview Sold
@MML664 ай бұрын
I cannot understand these devices. Just get a dongle. I can take pictures while listening to music. I can play and view social networking sites. The screens of these devices are bad. Their sizes are large. They do not give you as much power as a desktop DAC gives, and they do not give you a significant power difference over a lightweight dongle.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
They have buttons and TBH I prefer carrying a second device to dongle fiddliness.
@oxyoxi32134 ай бұрын
Dongles drain your phone battery and are clunky?
@MML664 ай бұрын
@@oxyoxi3213 You will often use it to move around your home or travel, and use a desktop DAC and you will get unlimited listening time. At this price, you can get headphones, a desktop DAC, and the best dongle.
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
@@oxyoxi3213A dap user shouldn't be using words like clunky...😅 A dongle can be thrown into the smallest of pockets.. What about a dap? You already have a phone. Then you have something that is 3 times thicker ! Where do you keep that? Mostly you need a whole bag... So dongles win on portability by a huge margin.
@dominikalbers69834 ай бұрын
I bought a DAP Last year. I did it because i was primarily listening with a Dongle or BT DAC via my Phone and 10min later im on Instagram watch a reel someone send me or watching reviews like this, for products i don't need! With a DAP i don't get this distractions and the battery last 30h and i love the volumen in 150 steps through a volumeweel
@patrickhamning17344 ай бұрын
Hiby finna blacklist you lol
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Nah they're pretty cool.
@hibymusic15664 ай бұрын
We won't. Feelings are subjective, and it's not strange not to notice a difference. We appreciate diverse opinions.
@AF-rd2vf4 ай бұрын
This dude can’t hear the difference between these devices. Either his hearing is bad or he’s using subpar headphones or IEMs.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
You're welcome to do a convincing blind shootout video!
@AF-rd2vf4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview there is no need to do a blind test among some of these players. To my ears there is a difference in how these players sound especially among the higher tier players versus entry level and mid players. The higher end players will use the best off the shelf DAC chips, RTR Ladder DAC and other DAC technologies. Also, better parts are used. The DAC implementation is tuned by the brand or company manufacturing the player. Company A player’s sound signature may be different from company B. Some players are more musical than other players. Some players will be voiced to sound more neutral than others. Sone players will use tubes which will have an impact on the sound. I’m sure there is a difference in sound from your $200 DAP versus the DAP you just reviewed. What IEM’s or headphones did you use? Using $150 IEM’s or headphones on upper tier players ain’t gonna cut it. These better DAPs demand better IEMs and headphones to hear the difference. That’s like putting $100 tires on a high end luxury car. You’ll eventually arrive at your destination but getting there will be different. High end DAPs with the best ancillary equipment is a true revelation in sound. I’ve been there…from the cheapest or entry level gear to better gear but once you get better gear there is no way you can unhear it.
@kevingest54524 ай бұрын
@@AF-rd2vf confirmation biases can be strong, your feelings of certainty are not evidence that blind testing isn't necessary... kind of the opposite.
@Cirillion4 ай бұрын
@@AF-rd2vfThis!!!👍🏻
@chavi7984 ай бұрын
@@AF-rd2vf Always the same excuse:"These better DAPs demand better IEMs and headphones to hear the difference"
@jaroslavfricek77724 ай бұрын
😆😂I mean maybe you're right, but just maybe you have some little condition👀... also you said I think you don't hear cable differences, I do so much...but good for U saving $2000❤️🙋♂️
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I would seriously love to see a video of someone picking out these DAPs in a blind listening session.
@Kenny-Somafunk4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview I’d love to see a similar test carried out at a canjam/headfi meet/audio show using an ABX switcher but we all know that will never happen - amplifiers/dacs have been “sorted” for so long and sound to all intents and purposes in normal use scenarios as very “similar”, I buy on features and useability rather than pseudoscience tarted up as sonic nirvana in a 1/2 kg brick. Hiby R6 iii and Symphonium Meteor (bought partly due to your review of it) is my sweet spot, especially with the PEQ, and I have the new Grell OAE1headphone on the way. Have you viewed Archimago’s dac test?, you may find it interesting. Google “Archimago’s musings” if you haven’t read any of his writings
@Tssukiii4 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview What could be some reason for them sounding the same is that some devices use the same circuitry for their single ended output (f.e. Golden Sound claimed the L30 and A90 sounded the same through single ended, but the A90 is way better in balanced for demanding cans in his review). Tbh the differences I hear are minor and there probably only because I imagine them being there. More power does make an audible difference to me with planar headphones like the Aryas, because they get loud enough on my cheap DAPs, but don’t sound nearly as good as with my A90. With IEMs though I would be really surprised to notice a difference between an Apple Dongle and a 2k DAP in a blind test lol
@ElNINETEENTH4 ай бұрын
@@Tssukiiibro Fatfreq iems can’t be even driven by an Apple dongle most high end iems require more power to shine.
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
@@ElNINETEENTHStop distributing jargon everywhere you go just because you yourself picked it up somewhere...lol . Every Iem on this planet can be driven by an apple dongle.. You're just encouraging companies to charge more and more... Why do you want that?? They giving you commissions?
@wyw2014 ай бұрын
Never mind difference between DAPs, I couldn’t even hear the difference between 320kbps mp3 and flac. Both ripped from my own CDs.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Same. Even 192Kbps I'm struggling to hear a difference. ...That said, i still store my music in FLAC, it's not that big. Hi-Res FLAC, however, is too much space waste for me.
@roifilham294 ай бұрын
I was not ready with the thickness the moment you picked it up
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
It really hits you.
@kevingest54524 ай бұрын
That's what she said
@recode84534 ай бұрын
this is why i love this channel. honest impression 💙
@marcelaoferreira25664 ай бұрын
Another great review! I bought the 64 audio 4US based in your review. Hi from Rio, Brazil!!
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
How's U4s treating you?
@mechpade4 ай бұрын
DAP's sound quality had peaked when iBasso released the first MAX, with its more transportable form factor. And when Fiio released their M17 as a competitor, I thought DAP makers would follow Fiio's direction and start modernizing and improving useability. All USB-C (source, DAC, AMP stages), desktop mode, excellent BT and wifi, and the latest Andriod version with support for future upgrades. But alas, they just keep adding DAC (or R2R/1-bit) chips and more powerful amps.
@maegnificant4 ай бұрын
I use the Hiby R3 II and I like it quite a lot.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
It's a good little player.
@michaelmacvittie69774 ай бұрын
What I want for 2k: an S24 with all the audio fixings (volume knob, multiple outputs, etc) What I get: a Oneplus 7
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I want a motorcycle.
@SimonP24 ай бұрын
One of the best phones ever made IMHO with its pop-up camera and no holes in the screen. I love my 7 Pro and dread the day when it has to be replaced.
@mfgillia76064 ай бұрын
Would have been helpful if you told us upfront what headphones and/or IEMs you were using to compare the DAPs. If you're using easy to power, lower end stuff then not uncommon for sound differences between DAPs to be minimal.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
I use Apple EarPods and those headphones they use at the library.
@scotteaton9634 ай бұрын
😂@@SuperReview
@mfgillia76064 ай бұрын
@@SuperReview Ah, so you're more troll than a serious reviewer of audio gear. My bad.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
@mfgillia7606 No, you are just the third person to ask this question, I answered the other two seriously and it did not satisfy the people asking so I tried something else.
@audio_tron4 ай бұрын
Grateful for Super subjecting himself to the OCD self-doubt a blind listening test can cause. At this price, it’s a features game, not a sound game. Perhaps those few DAPs that have built-in tubes would be an exception on sound differences.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Yeah testing the N3Ultra currently, it does have an audible change when engaging the tubes. I can even measure it!
@rickoneill43433 ай бұрын
For that kind of money I'd prefer a modern phone with a dongle or a full on gaming laptop.
@ChrisStoneinator17 күн бұрын
How does a gaming laptop enter into the equation here?
@UltimateEnd03 күн бұрын
Just get R6 II PRO almost as good, much cheaper but battery is 5000mah vs 12000mah in R8 II
@franksam861012 күн бұрын
I prefer Benks cover it’s a soft rubber type and has cover for the 4.4 and 3.5 where you just lift it when using it
@Kalimeero4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review i enjoyed it. The price tag is too much for me and when you say the battery performance and sound quality is basically the same. The m300 seems perfect dap for me especially the form factor. Probably gonna work perfectly fine with most iems.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Yeah M300 is great with IEMs.
@ifan27053 ай бұрын
yea people in this comment need to calm down lol
@SupanontJ4 ай бұрын
Great to hear opinion from ones who has both R8ii and M300 like me. I love them both but when I go outside, definitely picked M300 since R8ii is more than a half kg lol. //To comment session. Why are you guys making it complicated? If you can't perceive the difference, then so be it. Congratulations on saving many grand of your money. For people who can tell the difference, we gotta suffer together.
@hpwrotethis4 ай бұрын
I'm glad a 200 dap beating a 2000 dap. Now I'm waiting for the 20 dollar dap to beat the 200 dollar one
@joegarcia62764 ай бұрын
😅
@Henpukacaemblu3 ай бұрын
just a bs. There are 2 main cons with this "super review": 1) there is no any mention about what iems he used to compare these daps. Because I'm pretty sure he use some mid tier stuff. 2) No audio feedback regarding two devices. The problem with the first one if you've got a top tier stuff you may use top tier iems with it, or it's just like putting bicycle tires on ferrari and pretend that this car is not that fast that you imagined...
@funyeeter11644 ай бұрын
Really nice to see another Galdive enthusiast
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
Just discovered them recently, good stuff.
@troy041007Ай бұрын
I can understand your concern, if music source is Spotify as you have mentioned I am sure most people cant hear the difference. Try better source such as DSD. I enjoy your review.
@SuperReviewАй бұрын
Not that I think it matters, but I only use streaming like Spotify to discover music that I later buy.
@ricenoodles6323 ай бұрын
idk why I laughed really hard at the thumbnail
@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallowАй бұрын
To be honest, with that size, I think it's better just to buy a normal smartphone and a portable dongle.
@ChrisStoneinator17 күн бұрын
If you like shit, then yes
@DHRME4 ай бұрын
I like big knobs and I cannot lie.
@SuperReview4 ай бұрын
It's why we get along.
@kevinhegarty4153Ай бұрын
HI Mark, great review! I purchased the M300. The Hiby music player is not very good so I purchased the full version of Poweramp. During playback I notice that I get millisecond glitches / skips in the music. Any idea why that might be the case? Think there is a setting I have wrong? Thanks for your thoughts.
@MrColdchillin81Ай бұрын
Your reviews make a lot more sense when people know you’re a low volume listener. So volume and gear scaling won’t matter for you like it does for mid to high volume listeners. Also helps me understand your tuning preferences why you’d prefer more lean and bright sounding stuff. All really common from low volume listeners.
@karolkedzierski58244 ай бұрын
Great video, love it! I myself used to go this bias way, buying expensive daps. Not anymore. To make it more funny, i have the AK sp1000 which costed over 3500 bucks a couple years ago and now i have the me300. I cant hear any difference between them using Moondrop Variations, Monarch 2 or Sennheiser ie900. The only small difference is in the right/left channel separation where the sp1000 gives me an impression of a wider image but this could also be in my head lol
@MrColdchillin814 ай бұрын
That’s exactly the benefit. Depth of stage lower noise floor wider stereo image and less distortion. And respectfully the sp1000 is ancient in terms of audio. Imagine what they’re sounding like now
@karolkedzierski58244 ай бұрын
@@MrColdchillin81 "the sp1000 is ancient in terms of audio" 🤣🤣 "Depth of stage lower noise floor wider stereo image and less distortion" 🤣🤣 I dont hear any difference between the sp1000 and sp2000 so the sp2000 is ancient too? What makes the sp1000 "ancient" lol? A DAC? The newest Luxury&Precision flagship utilizes the same AKM 4497 DAC and they say that this DAC is the best for portables. Keep believing in dragons, your wallet will be happier for sure.
@MrColdchillin814 ай бұрын
@@karolkedzierski5824it’s almost a decade old. That’s why it’s ancient. The rest is indicative of hearing loss and bias. My wallet is too heavy thanks
@rajeebdas17244 ай бұрын
@@MrColdchillin81Kid.. You're coping hard. I'm genuinely scared for your bank balance.