2000 02 Hsing I Mrs Kwan

Mrs Kwan performing the Hsing-I set, Canada, Feb 2000

[@didiergohler2571]

Danny, please contact me! I am Friend from Taoist Tai chi days on St Hubert street and would like to contact you about Tai Chi practice.

[@dannyrabi]

@@didiergohler2571 Hi 👋 Didier Good to hear from you!! 🙏🌺

[@dannyrabi]

Didier send me your email address or WhatsApp or fb messenger

[@raybakey15]

My first Tai Chi instructor AND a lady I still highly respect 'NAMASTAE'

[@elizabethsaggers3054]

Brilliant to find this and see it from two different angles. I learnt this a few years ago but didn’t have anyone to practice with, this will help me make sense of notes made at the time! Thank you 🙂

[@lingseto6454]

I gave a talk and demonstration at her studio with Francis Chan of the Canada Yiquan Society a few years back. One of her students told me I was the only one so privileged. Hope to see her again after the pandemic is over.

[@wayaoh997]

I’ve never seen this Hsing I version of Phoenix before. Beautiful! Thank You so much!🙏🏻🕉☸️☯️⛩🌹

[@cheryljordan5750]

I love this, who teaches this, where do I sign up???

[@warshipsdd-2142]

Thanks. Remember her fondly helping me with snakes at Darcy St.

[@bwoodward9564]

Thanks. Now I can apply my internals to it for free.

[@dannyrabi]

Sounds like a tall order

[@bwoodward9564]

@@dannyrabi You have to steal it.

[@AppledogHu]

I can't begin to describe the sadness with which I remember learning some of these forms. Mr. Moy did worse than cheat his students, he lied to them.

[@elsie900]

How so, and can I find out more about that? I never met him and a lot of different people's stories don't match up. Hard to make sense of it all sometimes.

[@lingseto6454]

@@elsie900 Yang style Tai Chi is the most popular style of Tai Chi, but the family reveals the good stuff to few outsiders. As a result, most students have to graft stuff from other arts to complete their work. Mr. Moy took the frame of Yang Tai Chi and add a few exercises from Yiquan, and completed it with a qigong set. This is essentially the long and short of it.

[@elsie900]

@@lingseto6454 I see, I thought Appledog might have meant something more specific. I study elsewhere now, and my new perspective is that learning from more than one source leads to improved growth and avoids stagnation. Whereas once, I was cautioned to be wary of "outside input." Thanks very much for the reply and for the comments you've posted here and there over the past little while.

[@lingseto6454]

@@elsie900 One of his early students told me that what he learned was very different from what was taught later. I also studied with a classmate of Mr. Moy so I know what was passed down from Mr. Liang. The question is this: was Mr. Moy adding qigong to Yang Tai Chi, or was he adding movements of Yang Tai Chi to a qigong set?

[@warshipsdd-2142]

@@lingseto6454 Mister Moy adaped how/what he taught over the years, in part due to the abilties of the students. It is a blended form. I am still gaining insights from the personal corections he gave me decades later. He didn't call it Yang style for a reason. It is one approach to an complex art and practice

[@bwoodward9564]

It's too bad there are no internals in this school.

[@lingseto6454]

Internals are the secret teachings of these arts. They are hard to teach and hard to learn. Most people do not have the patience for them.

[@bwoodward9564]

@@lingseto6454 Not as mysterious as you would like to claim.

[@lingseto6454]

@@bwoodward9564 The classical language makes it mysterious. How about opposing forces instead of heaven-earth-man? or spine and pelvis instead of dragon and tiger? It helps if teachers would allow students to touch them. There is simply no faking it. It also helps if students are given a comprehensive theory or road map. Giving out the stuff in bits and pieces and expect students to put them together do not work well. Finally, it takes a long time to condition the joints and ligaments to receive and deliver force cleanly. External arts give much faster results.

[@bwoodward9564]

@@lingseto6454 Fast results only for an exceptional few. Moy's tai chi can bring these internals to the sick and weak who are not naturally endowed. Be like water was what Bruce Lee said. Of course, he was no good really. When foundation is achieved then higher intensity is pursued.

[@lingseto6454]

@@bwoodward9564 I had 6 internal art teachers spanning 5 decades. 2 of them were from the Liang Tse Pang school and Mr. Moy was one of them. By "compare and contrast", I was able to separate what Mr. Moy took from Sun Di and what he took from that mystery man in the park. My goal since I was a teenager was to drill down to the core of these great arts to find out what internals are all about. Only in the last few years I am comfortable enough with my understanding. So last year I published a book on only the internals and invited readers to write me, hoping to learn something and not be embarrassed too much in the process. Btw, Bruce Lee was a sparring partner of my last teacher Francis Chan. He was the founder of the Canada Yiquan Society and the finest internal martial artist I have ever met. I am privileged to have learned from him for 15 years.