2004 Infiniti Q45 Luxury Review - An Under-Appreciated V8 Luxury Sedan!

[@CGJ7755]

Hey guys, I own a 1993 Q45, a 1996 Q45, and a 2005 Q45. They are the best japanese sedans of all time. I will always own them and love them. If you can find a clean one, and you can if you look hard enough, buy it, maintain it, and enjoy it. They are an underrated, overlooked gem.

[@GodisGracious1]

is it reliable car and cheap to maintain?

[@CGJ7755]

@@GodisGracious1 yes it is. I’ve owned the 2005 Q since 2016, around 8 years. In that time the only repair I’ve needed was an egr valve and one valve cover gasket (I did both but only one side had any leaks.) It is the most reliable car I’ve ever owned and I love it so much I can’t imagine selling it. It is the best motor vehicle purchase I’ve made, equal to a Lexus SC400 I got when I was 19.

[@CGJ7755]

@630Cars 2005. The 1993 is very special and definitely catches peoples eye more, though.

[@Orangematz]

laughs in Lexus LS430

[@DrizzyGeez302]

​@@CGJ7755 I want a 97 or the 98 Q45 their just so hard to find especially a clean one

[@mmmfloorpie]

There was a big controversy when this generation first came out. Infiniti said it would do 0-60 in under 6 seconds I think. None of the car review magazines could get anywhere near that time. Eventually Infiniti had to admit they only got that time by using a stripped down car with no seats and a 100lb driver.

[@CGJ7755]

the 05-06s could do it.

[@hduncan2587]

Maybe thinking of the smaller, sportier, more square-jawed M45 of the era, before the giant G35-esque M35/M45 generation came out?

[@Forge17]

@@mmmfloorpie interesting reversal, since the Q45 10 years earlier had its horsepower deliberately underestimated by Infiniti.

[@DiaperSNiFFER]

Pretty sure the 2005 infinty got like 5.9 seconds of that counts . These are full size sedans

[@scott8919]

I was so fascinated by those headlights in high school that when we were tasked to paint something on canvas, I chose the headlight from this car.

[@CGJ7755]

They had the most effective headlights in the automotive world when introduced in 2002.

[@omostim2385]

Same I thought they were so cool

[@CGJ7755]

@@omostim2385 they still are

[@heshamsaleem]

@scott8919 what did your teacher say about the painting?

[@nwezetx1]

​@CGJ7755 It wasn't introduced in 2002. These were revealed in April *2000* and released in March 2001. Please stop assuming model years literally mean that's the year it debuted, because it doesn't mean that.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

This channel is great. A perfect blend of new and noteworthy discontinued models.👍

[@davinp]

Some luxury cars had back up cameras long before it was required by law.

[@smoketaylor2885]

But Infinti was one of the first!

[@notforeveryone7334]

@@smoketaylor2885 Lexus had it first in other countries. Acura adapted to the backup camera very early as well. I used to own a 2003 Acura MDX Touring that had factory Navigation and a rearview camera.

[@nwezetx1]

​​@notforeveryone7334 That isn't even accurate. Lexus had it in 1991 via the special package Toyota Soarer from 1991 to 1997, but not in the USA until April 2003 on the RX 330. Infiniti was first in USA in March 2001 on the 2002 Q45. Acura didn't offer a backup camera until autumn 2003 in the *2004* MDX, not 2003 MDX.

[@auntbarbara5576]

This is a proper luxury car, this V8 moves the car with authority. That's what the owner wants 👌🏽

[@kevinfernando3167]

This and the mazda 626 got the GTA lore look to em

[@nwezetx1]

?? GTA borrowed the designs.

[@sentiencepsn2714]

2:55 That BMW rawr rawr rawr bit with the stock photos was hilarious. Nice touch.

[@johneli495]

Mid 90s era q45 looked more distinctive imo. It was one of the alternatives to the LS400 back then

[@ThaKenMan]

OooI haven’t seen these so clean in forever. I thought about getting one of these but opted for an 03 LS430 instead.

[@CGJ7755]

Can’t go wrong with either. The early 00s Japanese luxury car market was straight fire.

[@CathyHolton-jh1xv]

I still have one in our Lexus fleet. The LS430 is a much better car in the long run. No cheap plastics anywhere. I can’t say the same for Infiniti and Acura, much less for Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz.

[@CGJ7755]

The best years for Q45 as a "driven car" would have to be 2005-2006, in 2005 they improved the throttle response of the engine and transmission shifting points, it became truly a very fast car, capable of 0-60 in 5.9 seconds. 2005 the car was also given a facelift with a more proper prominent grille and tail lights. The best year for a Q45 as a nostalgic or classic car would be 1990-1993 the "Phase I years." They truly are solid as vaults. My parents have gone for rides with me and commented they feel like a "Japanese-built rolls royce."

[@Aaron.Crow512]

What about the gen before this one I think those are the best looking

[@CGJ7755]

@@Aaron.Crow512 they are very nice cars but the second generation Q45 is not a true Q45, they were entirely based upon the Nissan Cima with a 4.1 liter V8. The first generation and the third generation (which he reviews) is based on the Nissan President. They are still handsome and well built luxury cars, and the majority of people would be very happy with them.

[@joeseeking3572]

@@CGJ7755 Totally agree. That was way way out of my league at the time, but not Dad's. I was a strong advocate for it, but he went Audi V8 - cost a lot more and I'm not at sure it justified the price difference.

[@CGJ7755]

@@joeseeking3572yeah he made a bad choice… Audis especially of that time period were very bad cars and the costs of repairs were absurd…. I never ever see any old A8s, they’ve all been junked by now.

[@dieg0]

just got this car for Christmas 3 weeks ago and I love it so much. Your review really incapsulates how stunning it feels to ride. Shoutout to my mom and stepdad, could not have asked for a better first car. P.S. You forgot to mention the cassette in the glovebox and how the speakers actually sound phenomenal.

[@DEEuroworks]

Nice review. Started watching your channel since the Lincoln LS video you had up, 👍🏼👍🏼

[@SvenQ45]

Yes in Japan they specifically pointed the headlights out in the Cima advertisement. 😁

[@the808kid7]

Had an 02 model a few years ago, I loved that car. It was well optioned as well. It had a climate control and radio control system in the back seat, sunshades, and reclining heated seats in the back. My friends loved it back there lol. It also had adaptive cruise control, from 2002! It was a great system, but it being an early system it didn’t work at all when it rained. Cool regardless!

[@nwezetx1]

These cars actually came out in early 2001, so even longer ago.

[@the808kid7]

@@nwezetx1 even crazier

[@RobsNeighbor]

Yes I owned that car! I worked as a tech from 2002 to 2013 for Infiniti Loved It!!

[@ASEVVVV]

Had a 97 q45, just a beautiful first car

[@jeliartevieira4158]

Acho bacana os carros que você mostra no teu canal,cada carro top como são luxuosos hein!

[@seikocitizenwatches]

I love the 1990 Q45, especially its styling

[@tatankahanska120]

The 2002-2004 infiniti M45 Y34 Chassis, you should feature same motor as the Q45 but is quicker and more sleek. I had one it was an awesome car. It's down fall was the electrical issues

[@hachiroku8677]

It's the first time I ever see a car passing the Big Friggin Bottle Test on this channel.

[@CGJ7755]

The cup holder insert being removable is very helpful.

[@ralphcastaneda128]

Try to find an early 2000s Infiniti M45, same powertrain but in a midsize car. Very cool car and very rare. I live in Los Angeles and have only seen a few ever!

[@hduncan2587]

Many get ragged out, much like the G35. There's an auto transporter at the auction I used to work at who had a couple of them parked out on the street for when he wanted to run around in between jobs, both seemed to be donors for each other. I definitely consider it the Japanese version of a Mercury Marauder-- very similar vibe or presence.

[@CGJ7755]

@@hduncan2587 super hard to find... there have been a few on BringATrailer and Carsbids, with low miles they can demand 13-15k. Well worth it.

[@bebop_557]

I only know of one issue in these cars, which is the early 4.1L V8 engines having plastic timing chains which were NOTORIOUS for failing. The newer ones and all the 4.5L V8 engine have metal timing chains (both the 4.1L and 4.5L are VH45DE engine). If you get an older one with the 4.1L V8, make sure you get that plastic timing chain replaced with a metal one ASAP. But once you do? You have a very reliable car. These things are very well built, aside from that one thing with the timing chain.

[@CGJ7755]

Actually the 4.1s were fine. The issue was the 4.5s made between 1989 up to around July of 1992 (1990-1992 model year cars) had the plastic timing chain guides, these would chip off and fall into the oil pan where they would get sucked into the sump and starve the engine of oil. this generally would happen when a car hit close to 70k miles and up, in many cases theres cars with substantial miles that the guides did break, but the bits would settle in the pan and not into the oil intake. any model year 1993 and up did not have this issue.

[@Hobotraveler82]

I love that color. Cool car 😊

[@danzeldiaz7447]

I’m not sure if you should consider this a competitor to the Lincoln town car

[@CGJ7755]

It was a competitor to the town car, and the Cadillac deville and Seville. It solidly beat all of those cars in virtually every segment except price.

[@desertwindauh]

Thanks for featuring the Q45. We only ever hear about the overwhelming and deserved success of the the first Lexus, and yet I can't help but think that the far more dynamic Q45 should have deserved far more love than it received. I do recall it was badly let down by really stupid irrelevant marketing, which would become the de facto playbook as to "how NOT TO LAUNCH a new car brand".

[@doug6191]

9:45 - Many cars had backup cameras well ahead of any regulation. Our 2013 Hyundai had it.

[@CarringtonHollister]

My girlfriend’s 2015 Kia Sorento has a backup camera too and how in the hell that my 22 year old Volkswagen has side airbags but this INFINITI doesn’t just floors me

[@doug6191]

@@CarringtonHollister I think this Q45 does 🤔

[@doug6191]

@@CarringtonHollister Also, 22 years ago, VW was all-in on taking the brand up a notch vs. all the other mainstream brands, just like Mazda's trying now. Those 2002 VW had a lot of standard equipment that wasn't even available on other similar competitor's models.

[@hduncan2587]

@@doug6191 indeed, they just aren't in the seats more than likely. Instead probably in the pillars or headliner.

[@nwezetx1]

​@CarringtonHollister That's not true. Shooting Cars makes so many false claims in videos, it's painful to swallow.

[@willyhwang1059]

best angle front view looking straight at you.

[@CGJ7755]

I went to a cars and coffee with mine and my buddy took a professional shot of it straight on. I love it.

[@hduncan2587]

No mention of the rear seat controls in the armrest? Much like the LS430, there was an optional reclining rear seat (among other things), and it does appear to have some buttons in there. Also, height of the seats is more about raising H-point (height of ones hip) for easy ingress/egress and safety against ever higher (truck/SUV) bumpers, seeing out over the dashboard and doors, and rear foot room-- not so much about the airbags. An FRS has the airbags in the seat, and you're still practically on the floor (more so than even a Viper RT-10). There's no reason to have a seat way up in the air because of airbags.

[@danzeldiaz7447]

Wow A Japanese V8 rear wheel drive sedan That’s amazing

[@CGJ7755]

Not many of them, the most notable would be the Lexus LS400/430 and the Infiniti Q45. They were overbuilt and very well designed, the best sedans of all.

[@MegaRetr]

Hey Q45 is kinda special 🚘 😊

[@michaelhoskins832]

How do you find the time to review so many vehicles, Zack?

[@davidp2888]

My father had a 2003 G35. Cornered like a beast.

[@fgeiger41]

Smooth low down torque like an old small block. Super thirsty. My 2005 FX45 drinks premium like there's no tomorrow but so smooth. Jumps off the line but down on midrange and top end grunt. You have to get on it for passing.

[@CGJ7755]

I can squeeze 19-20 of it on the highway, but overall its not great on gas, not with the addicting acceleration it offers 0-80

[@fgeiger41]

@CGJ7755 absolutely. I'm mad as hell while pumping the gas. When I get in and here that growl when I start it I completely forget what I was mad about. Lol

[@masonchase085]

“Just big toe it” you’re not the only one!

[@damilolaakanni]

3:25 didn't the FX45 get this engine?

[@CGJ7755]

Yes, the FX45 and the M45 of 03-04 had this same powertrain, and they were all very fast cars.

[@ottoglass2159]

I’m impressed!

[@jordanrosenberg9816]

I used to have this car. Miss it so much

[@CGJ7755]

Was it also a 02-04 or was it 05-06?

[@jordanrosenberg9816]

@@CGJ7755 2002 model year and same color as above. My first car.

[@quiteyuh]

@@jordanrosenberg9816 i just the 2002 model a few months ago in great condition and I'm loving it. Under appreciated gem for sure

[@mumwifeteacher]

Very startrek the next generation interior

[@The_gear_head_]

You had me at v8

[@marvin4827]

Great review dude...

[@nwezetx1]

Not really. He claims false things, such as not having side airbags.

[@titusbyzantine4949]

​@@nwezetx1 you clearly have something personal against him.. 30 comments on his channel? sorry he bullied you during school

[@nwezetx1]

@titusbyzantine4949 Grow and learn the meaning of "personal". Not allowed to even respond in full, but considering he cannot be bothered to get basic facts right and inaccurately insulted one of the most respected names of the 20th century in modern automotive history, I see right through his dismal reporting. Doug Demuro is no better either.

[@nwezetx1]

@titusbyzantine4949 Also, not interested in the non sequitors of uninformed sycophants who carry water for low info KZbinrs, that already have the resources to provide accurate content or avoid making false claims. How does someone claim an older 2000s luxury vehicle doesn't have side airbags, when it does like its past competition? Plus other inaccuracies? Every flagship luxury sedan had side airbags by 2000 and two dual front airbags by 1994. A credible observer of the automotive industry would know this. Why make incorrect side comments like that, when someone will trust what you've said and it can further hurt the image/reputation of the subject matter, such as this Infiniti? In terms of falling short of its contemporaries. It's not good at all and unprofessional. Avoid what you don't know, instead of claiming untrue things. I'm allowed to point out inaccuracies, regardless of your favorites. As an automotive historian, I do the same on other channels spreading misinformation.

[@titusbyzantine4949]

@@nwezetx1 Both of them are not technical enthusiasts. They however do not disrespect anything. If you want more knowledgeable people, go to Savage Geese.

[@AAPLGUY]

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen one of these… if I have, I sure don’t remember 😢

[@CGJ7755]

Fantastically rare. I see at most 1 per year.

[@casseyvilladiego3636]

can u review the 2nd gen q45s ?

[@arthurs7882]

Bruh. Nissan has had several families of v8s from... the original q45. M series has had v8s since right after q45 was discontinued

[@CGJ7755]

The M45 became the defacto flagship of Nissan when the Q45 was discontinued at the end of 2006.

[@CGJ7755]

… in America. The Q45 continued to be built (as the President) in Japan until 2010.

[@masonchase085]

Not bad prices for that low mileage vehicle site frfr

[@TYPICALTRYHARD_]

You should review a V8 pathfinder if you can find one those are pretty rare

[@zoidzoid87]

unfortunately this wasn't a fully loaded model. i could go on and on about the small details nissan added. i had a 02 fully loaded before i got my fx50 and wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. VK engine is one of the best to come out of Japan

[@CGJ7755]

the VK45DE was and is a fantastically overbuilt, silky smooth V8 with a wonderful, responsive powerband and an amazing throttle sound as it gets to 3,000 rpm and above.

[@FrequencyORD]

Hopefully takeover clowns don’t find out about this car like they found about about the G35/G37.

[@bazilwreckerloughead]

Nice looking, very clean car. The trunk looks big enough you could "hop into the trunk" if you really wanted to!

[@CGJ7755]

the trunk has handled numerous road trips for me, hauling substantial cargo... I occasionally will empty the spare tire and jack out so I can use the spare well for more storage.

[@miguelleidersnaider6143]

I think those front seats did have airbags; look at the top of the seatbacks!

[@CGJ7755]

the front seats and the pillars all have airbags, yes.

[@nwezetx1]

Shooting Cars has the right premise and interesting topics, but misses key details and facts, it is painful to watch some of these videos.

[@BadaBing.UCF30]

Can't wait to see it in GTA 6.

[@BonanzaGranada]

The intruder

[@ASEVVVV]

hot

[@miguelfigueroa2682]

Can you review a infiniti qx60 2014

[@RotaryJunkie]

"I wish they put this drivetrain in more cars" But... They put it in everything except the G.

[@CGJ7755]

Yeah but... all they were selling back then (if you look at production) was the G, hahahaha!!

[@RotaryJunkie]

@@CGJ7755 Also factual. I'm partial to the one that basically didn't sell whatsoever, the '03-04 M45. Original Pontiac GTO recipe done by the Japanese.

[@CGJ7755]

@@RotaryJunkie very rare. They attempted to the market the Cedric here but with a V8 from the Q.

[@AdamSahbani-kr4sl]

please isuzu trooper 2(1988-1999)

[@danzeldiaz7447]

Whenever I think of Japanese luxury sedans I think of rear wheel drive but not just that I think of smaller engines mostly six cylinder engines like the 80s Toyota Cresita and the Nissan Maxima as well as some other Lexus models but I don’t think about a big V8 in a Japanese sedan The Japanese are used to making smaller engines not big ones I don’t think I knew that this vehicle existed until about yesterday

[@CGJ7755]

The Lexus LS and Infiniti Q45 were the first and for a very long time the only Japanese sedans that had V8 engines. They did a fantastic job, and the build quality is impressive even today.

[@nwezetx1]

I'm assuming you must be gen z.

[@joeseeking3572]

I looked at these periodically when they were a couple of years old as a budget alternative. On paper they had all that I wanted, but I could never get past the exterior (and interior - what a horrible dash) design. I will give it the headlights though. In the end I found 2006 M45 to be much more attractive and more dynamically interesting. I really liked the 3rd gen M; the 4th gen was a huge letdown by which time Infinity had become irrelevant to me. Still think the 3rd gen M is a good choice for someone looking for a budget sport sedan that can be a used as a daily without worry and without sacrificing much considering they're 15 years (or so) old now.

[@Jay-gr5wq]

Those seats do have airbags

[@oreally8605]

My 2002 Nissan Maxima ( same as infinity) was the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. Would constantly blow ignition coils, and the design made the head gasket leak oil. It was fast and luxurious but pure garbage. I'll never buy another Maxima or Nissan car.

[@nwezetx1]

Nonsense, totally different cars. Do the research.

[@tagjr9744]

I always thought Infiniti was better than Lexus growing up. All I seen was Q45s and J30s.

[@CGJ7755]

They are almost evenly matched.

[@bwofficial1776]

These had the coolest headlights and were really the only multi-projector lights until LEDs came out. Otherwise, this car looks nice but bland. It looks like a decent Lexus alternative without the Toyota Tax.

[@someonecalledeulogio2280]

It has nissan altima design quiues

[@CGJ7755]

The 02-04s did look like big beefy M35s and M45s, the rear end was very similar

[@nwezetx1]

No it doesn't. 2002 Altima borrowed from this design. The Infiniti was designed around 1997-1998, while the Altima was a 1999 final prototype. Same story with the J30 and 1993 Altima, both designed 1988-89.

[@heitorbernardes7977]

I'm amazed that this does not have side airbags

[@CGJ7755]

It actually does.

[@nwezetx1]

It never does one well to be too gullible and trust an uninformed KZbinr. I do wish the vlogger would do his research, instead of encouraging fallacies like the idea Infiniti didn't offer side airbags as standard in $60k+ flagship V8 luxury sedan.

[@nwezetx1]

​@@CGJ7755If people did their own research, instead of blindly trusting the account of a KZbinr who was likely not even born when a past model went into development, maybe they'd not need you to correctly inform them.

[@michaelcoffey7362]

Nice 😀

[@jasonweikert1922]

Looks like an old Kia Optima.

[@CGJ7755]

The Kia optima and also the Rio copied the Q45 appearance years afterwards

[@nwezetx1]

​@CGJ7755 Yes, but of course the layman person forgets that of course.

[@jordanj9233]

It’s giving BAE+

[@CGJ7755]

correct, however its not an altima, but it is made by nissan, which only makes altima derived cars. You got the Altima, Smalltima, HVAC Installtima, Walker Paultima, Crash into the Walltima, Becky we goin to the Malltima, Haultima, and this car here, being a used infiniti, is a "worth fuck-All-tima."

[@nwezetx1]

Nonsensical. Nissan copied the prototype 2001.5 Q45 for the 2002 Altima in early 1999.

[@mauriceldisgreecanadahaspr9560]

THIS Q45T INFINITY IS A STRONG STRONG SEDAN INFINITY COMING NEW SEDAN 2025 ON THE WAY 😮😮😮😮😮

[@pontiacGXPfan]

The CTS Vsport would run rings around this car

[@DTMBUILT]

Well yeah it’s about 12 years newer, I would hope so

[@CGJ7755]

I have a friend with the CT4 which is a CTS V type evolution, and he admits although his car is clearly faster, my car rides better and is more comfortable to be in, and "fast enough" in his opinion.

[@DTMBUILT]

@@CGJ7755 the CT5 V blackwing is the CTSV replacement, the ATSV is what the CT4V Blackwing replaced

[@CGJ7755]

@@DTMBUILTwhat is the CT6 black wing then?

[@DTMBUILT]

@@CGJ7755 The CT6 was released in 2016, the CTSV was out while the CT6 was released. The CTSV was gone in 2019, the CT6 V blackwing was made from 2018 to 2020, very shortly after the CTSv was discontinued, the CT5 blackwing was released.

[@earlscheib7754]

Nissan v8's are in the McLarens

[@GeeEm1313]

These things really didn't sell. Maybe one reason is because it looks like a Daewoo.

[@CGJ7755]

They did have a rough time, especially the final two years, even though they were the best. 2005 was 1145 cars and 2006 was around 465

[@theUltimateLord]

Ewww I'll stick to lexus. The 3uz is better in that LS430!!!! Also the GS400 is badass

[@nwezetx1]

Misleading video, considering it came STANDARD with side airbags. The 2004 Q45s were released in 2003 (not in 2004) and based on the 2002 Q45, released in March 2001 and first revealed in April 2000. If you're trying to educate people about these cars, it's not helpful posting contradictory "facts".

[@danzeldiaz7447]

I thought that this engine would be in an SUV or an a truck or some bigger vehicle like that and not a sedan

[@CGJ7755]

They put the 4.5 liter V8 into the FX45 for a few years.

[@ThinkBeFree99]

Too bad, it's hard to own cars like these and keep them safe and justify the money out into them. Most insurance companies may total them out for minor accidents.

[@CGJ7755]

You can keep them and take the check, and do the repair work at a shop of your choice. But I drive very cautiously regardless

[@danzeldiaz7447]

I love these weird cars

[@TheKacper2001]

If you keep saying that Infiniti is Nissan do the same with Lexus and Toyota

[@doug6191]

And Cadillac is Chevy, Lincoln is Ford, Acura is Honda, etc.

[@CGJ7755]

Nissan never really tried to hide it though, they were proud of their roots. When introduced in 1990 it was “Infiniti by Nissan” and many owners would call their cars “Nissan Infinitis”

[@Alex-mz3tg]

The car looks a bit like a Jaguar from the backside.

[@xFactoryUSA]

Face only a mother could love 😂

[@CGJ7755]

From my perspective it’s stately and very handsome.

[@ajf5745]

The front is nice but the back is not great ​@@CGJ7755

[@CarringtonHollister]

My 2002 Passat has driver and passenger side airbags but this INFINITI doesn’t have any side airbags 😱😐🤦🏿‍♂️

[@CGJ7755]

this has side airbags. I have one and its clearly marked.

[@CarringtonHollister]

Maybe Zack didn’t see it or noticed it.

[@nwezetx1]

​@@CarringtonHollisterZack is horribly uninformed and misleading people like you.

[@anthony_rivera4735]

I don't know which luxury sedan aged worse than milk; 3rd gen Infiniti q45, Lexus ls430, jaguar xj8, Lincoln town car or Cadillac dts.

[@CGJ7755]

All Of those aged pretty well except the Jaguar. All of those are trashed now. The others mostly survived, especially the Q45s and Ls430s

[@hduncan2587]

Facelifted LS430 still looks good when kept up. Jag XJ8 as well, especially since the follow up looked like an anteater in comparison. An LS460 by comparison to the LS430... bit too blobby and let it sit too long with too many "updates." I like the subtle "boxed" fender flares of the LS430.

[@mauriceldisgreecanadahaspr9560]

Sharp Sedan Q45 Bring Back Infinity 2025 new One Coming Back new 😮😮😮😮

[@arthurs7882]

I know why these flopped. interior my materials are embarrassing. Infinit improved by the last generation M but the infotainment fascia looks... worse than Nissan

[@CGJ7755]

It took me a few days to learn it, now I cruise through the menu and climate control like nothing. The interior materials are among the best.

[@omidnamin9004]

the beige plastic around the buttons and the screen really cheapened this car. made it look like a low budget econ car.

[@davinp]

Nissan quality went down after Renault bought Nissan

[@golfboy83]

I absolutely do not like this era of the Q45. The ones in the 90s looked better. These look like a Kia Opirus, hideous and without character.

[@CGJ7755]

Kia what?

[@nwezetx1]

​@CGJ7755 Kia copied Infiniti and the dude casually assumes the worst about the Q45 in response. It's all too typical and annoying.

[@dougjones4007]

Nice Datson! Er Nissan?

[@chaseteter]

I always felt bad that this capable machine was given such an awful outfit to wear. It was determined to be awkward looking. You can’t even dress it up well in the aftermarket like the big Lexus cars.

[@CGJ7755]

It looks stately.

[@chaseteter]

@@CGJ7755 Unless you park it next to any of its competitors. Then it looks like a swollen maxima. Not good.

[@CGJ7755]

@@chaseteter I suppose. The Q45 was always made to look understated and barely noticeable. It was part of the Japanese zen design that went into it from the very start.

[@UnknownBigRock]

I own 4 f50 q45s. I should stop buying them but i dont

[@szilardtoth8814]

442(nd)😂

[@NickKerrwannaCrakr]

All I see is Nissan Altima

[@nwezetx1]

You have no imagination and scope beyond basic thoughts. Seeing this car in 2000-early 2001, it predates the Altimas.

[@NickKerrwannaCrakr]

@@nwezetx1 still…they ripped off the design of their luxury brand and cheapened it.

[@nwezetx1]

@NickKerrwannaCrakr Now, that I agree with. Nissan did this twice and it never sense. I have the photos of the 2002 Altima being designed at Nissan studios in the late 90s and it's pretty obvious, the Q45 above was already finalized and got used as a reference, which was inevitable when the 2000 Maxima looked quite similar. Similar mistakes were made with the Infiniti J30 (1992) and original Altima Stanza (1992). Made the Infiniti look cheapened.

[@NickKerrwannaCrakr]

The fact the armada and the infinity version are the same. Like nearly identical side by side, is sad

[@nwezetx1]

@@NickKerrwannaCrakr No, it's not. The Armada is a renamed premium model (Patrol), with decades of heritage. QX80 is a more luxury focused offering. Nothing with that whatsoever. It is far more offensive to sell a *reskinned* Sentra as an *Infiniti* than an expensive Nissan SUV as an Infiniti. At that point, it's mainly difference in showroom experience and a bit more niceties. The base vehicle in the Armada/Patrol is hardly shabby. It is no Chevy Cavalier to Cadillac Cimarron in execution.

[@cire06.]

im first :D

[@tinhinnh]

Looks like a big old Kia

[@CGJ7755]

The Kia Rio came years afterwards and copied the look of the 02 Q45s.

[@nwezetx1]

​@@CGJ7755Sad you have to explain this even, but it seems like the average online commenter comments first, without giving some pause and thinking first.

[@LAFooFrmLA]

I’m sure it’s a great car, but this gen was ugly AF

[@JohnZornAscended]

It looks like a 2006 Altima Tilapia. I’m actually offended, lol.