The fight between Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren) and Fernando Alonso (Renault) at the 2005 Italian Grand Prix. Alonso finished in 2nd, while Raikkonen finished in 4th.
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@raggandb7 жыл бұрын
When they were both considered "young drivers"...
@bigmac98005 жыл бұрын
raggandb these two were so freaking fast, absolute legends
@harshdx263 жыл бұрын
Reading this comment after Bahrain 2021 🤣🤣
@KevinAbillGaming3 жыл бұрын
RAI ALO MSC The best trio of 2005-2006 and 2021.
@setteroffires3 жыл бұрын
Alonso for Rookie of the year 2021 😂
@KevinAbillGaming3 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube VER HAM PER?
@nielspeterbrggeregebo77307 жыл бұрын
That McLaren was a beauty!
@reneperche96863 жыл бұрын
Mclaren bellísimo!!!
@antoinefarrugia10193 жыл бұрын
The fastest car, but the most unreliable
@usmanpirzada78022 жыл бұрын
That McLaren was a total mess. An unreliable car which costed Kimi the championship.
@Trackmonger732 жыл бұрын
And a beast (just not repliable enough)
@alejandrodiazmartin17332 жыл бұрын
That era was
@captaino166 жыл бұрын
"Things just seem to happen right for Alonso, don't they?" Boy, how times have changed...
@alexlazebat8393 жыл бұрын
2005 and mostly 2006 he coasted to his titles
@prod.cozybeats22993 жыл бұрын
@@alexlazebat839 well in 2005 he didn’t actually have the best car funny story
@alexlazebat8393 жыл бұрын
@@prod.cozybeats2299 still a podium car and for the first fly away races it was. Believe me i am a kimi fan. i am just saying that alonso is overrated. Also in China 05 renault brought a suped up V10 and Renault had beaten Mclaren. If Mclaren had given them more of a fight Renault would of brought its new V10. Like in 1991 when Mansell and Willias decreased Senna's gap to 8 points. Mclaren hit back.
@prod.cozybeats22993 жыл бұрын
@@alexlazebat839 my understanding was always the Mclaren lacked reliability that year - understandable given that the 2005 car was just an evolution of the highly unreliable and failed 2003 car. I always understood Raikonnen’s season to be filled with grid penalties and such which may have hurt him in regards to the championship
@alexlazebat8393 жыл бұрын
@@prod.cozybeats2299 but if not renault would have used a souped up engine
@ArthurSeijiNishikawa7 жыл бұрын
I just find amazing how 102 kg of fuel at that time only last 25 laps and today you finish the race with the same amount (the PU giving approximately the same power)! Not even mentioning the thermal efficiency reaching 50%! Despite the shitty sound, current F1 engines are true marvels of engineering.
@hectornecromancer53087 жыл бұрын
if not because of fuel consumption and any other factor, the current PU actually can rev higher. hence producing quite a nice sound but I agree that current engine is much more efficient than they used to be
@thierrybangun83397 жыл бұрын
yea it's much more efficient but costs 4 times higher
@hectornecromancer53087 жыл бұрын
that was expected, because current engine isn't work solely as an "engine", the ICE and motor unit worked together as hybrid, hence why they called "power unit"
@Rottensteam7 жыл бұрын
Thierry Bangun The hybrids has gone way down in price now. Leasing costs is the same as the V10/V8. The V10 was also crazy expensive when they were new and then got cheaper over time. Same story over and over again in F1, engine cost, engine cost and engine cost. It has always been a talking point throughout the last 30-40 years in F1.
@toupikh6 жыл бұрын
they never used 100kg or more of fuel for 25 laps...
@Super_GT6 жыл бұрын
Dat sound
@hellknightf13 жыл бұрын
Whaaat? a Super GT comment with no comments aknowladging mr shadow realm?, You lose your seat at RBR and suddenly none cares :c
@fridolfgranq3 жыл бұрын
It's an orchestra like none other
@vangledosh3 жыл бұрын
The best
@lukacalov19883 жыл бұрын
Raikkonen had 2 oponents that year Alonso and his car
@hachiroku81183 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, Mild Seven Renault and Mclaren West are two of my favorite F1 cars of all time, right up there with JPS lotus, Marlboro Mclaren and Camel Williams. Good old days when children's favorite colours were cigarette brands.
@FrontWing-EndPlate3 жыл бұрын
Them machines were absolutely stunning in 2005, and sounded like a race car..
@BS-ir7tx7 жыл бұрын
best seasons of F1 so far.. amazing cars, amazing drivers, amazing rivalry, amazing regulary and amazing commentators.. what an era!! miss this momment.
@tirant_blanc2 жыл бұрын
Best season until 2021 ;-)
@Aro3o62 жыл бұрын
@@tirant_blanc complete bullshit, f1 2012 was the best
@msdd7610 Жыл бұрын
@Raaid Janjua competetiveness adds to the excitement
@R9naldo Жыл бұрын
@Raaid Janjua how can something be competetive but boring?
@elkyf17 жыл бұрын
Damn it. 12 years past already
@Cashmonet3154 жыл бұрын
Make it 15 lol
@andrewmclaren8583 жыл бұрын
Damn, 3 years passed since this comment about 12 years passing.
@dmitryratov32193 жыл бұрын
It will be 16 soon)))
@fridolfgranq3 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@tysonmcgee18912 жыл бұрын
Oof
@davidfernandez97917 жыл бұрын
That blue Renault was a great car
@sleekrhetorics25287 жыл бұрын
David Fernández Bruh, I just get a sweet sensational feeling when I hear and see these cars. like my brain is about to burst with excitement. why don't they use these V10s anymore. 😭😭😭
@alanfender1236 жыл бұрын
sex on wheels baby
@nig3ldoug1as633 жыл бұрын
Bruh, my mom drives a Renault. I can confirm.. her car sucks!
@pablollorens93013 жыл бұрын
@Harvey Lee mass dumper is in 2006 Thais is 2005 idiot
@Ennui.3 жыл бұрын
@Harvey Lee you do know that most teams on the grid had their own versions of the mass damper? Renault was first to use it, but they also developed it much better than anyone else... It was a perfectly legal piece until the FIA decided to change a few rules in order to ban it.
@dmitrynov1kov6 жыл бұрын
I remember this race. Fantastic car and fantastic Raikkonen
@tristanmiller52156 жыл бұрын
Man i miss James Allen's commentating. Croft is such a dope.
@George-xb5ey Жыл бұрын
Croft is annoying as he just penetrative your ears and gives you a migraine sounds like his high on meth.
@BlueSkyCrystals6 ай бұрын
James Allen was as hated then as Croft is now, but for different reasons.
@ThanosB18C7 жыл бұрын
Real engines, real drivers, Real F1
@Spyker89217 жыл бұрын
lol
@tamdinh48296 жыл бұрын
ThanosB1
@AceStrikerxXx6 жыл бұрын
its the still the same dumb ass
@ty5671006 жыл бұрын
MrStig691....NO..I don't think so..Idiot!
@pepsiman_146 жыл бұрын
MrStig691 kimi is not the same. Engines arent the same. Mid field drivers arent the same. Those days were midfield warriors, now that only fits with force india drivers
@ciaronsmith49955 жыл бұрын
Raikkonen in a McLaren. Closest thing I've seen to Senna. Kimi would have EASILY won this title and this Monza race, if not for the 3, 10-place grid place penalties (Monza, France, Silverstone), Hydraulics failure in Hockenehim, Driveshaft failure in Imola and cancelled race in Indy. Enough.
@mystraker34005 жыл бұрын
Ciaron Smith Don't forget the last lap blowout at the Nurburgring.
@tempest45674 жыл бұрын
Kimi fans are the biggest sore losers ever. Always making up excuses. Closest thing to Senna is someone who has been rimming Vettel/Alonso/Massa for over a decade? Your standards are so low it's pathetic.
@ciaronsmith49954 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube Too bad Ralf easily beat Jarno in 2005 and 2006. Ralf said Montoya > Trulli on Beyond the Grid Podcast. So no. Alonso is overrated. He would have been destroyed by Kimi in the tyre war era (Michelins) or even Michael before 2004.
@ciaronsmith49954 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube I did. Ralf out-qualified Jarno in 2006 overall! In 2005 and 2006 they had similar bad luck, and Ralf was more consistent in the races. Ralf beat Jarno 2 years in a row, something Alonso failed to do.
@Davidpkami3 жыл бұрын
"Raikkonen in a McLaren. Closest thing I've seen to Senna" xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
@andrewcarder92677 жыл бұрын
bring back the "600 kilo racing car" the fuckin f1s now are like 720 kg
@5950ziel5 жыл бұрын
Classic F1 broadcast priorities, showing pit stop of Trulli instead of one of very few battles of the championship contenders.
@reimelong96713 жыл бұрын
remember kimi qualified here for pole but got a 10 sec penalty for engine change
@adatkabel Жыл бұрын
*10 grid
@buttsexmotorsport35 жыл бұрын
when refuling was a strategy
@quietwave7 жыл бұрын
The cars scream
@thomastebbutt1601 Жыл бұрын
Bring back these exact same cars, just put some Pirellis on them.
@Mordred13373 жыл бұрын
this mcclaren is the coolest design ever to me..
@MDDeGrande19942 жыл бұрын
Two GIANTS right in their primes.
@GM_FtblA3 жыл бұрын
Man i miss refuelling so much
@skyquest73333 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was so much more intense! Loved it
@SkyF1507 жыл бұрын
Those cars were something else in terms of noise. However the laptime should be right up there this year.
@jiipee74917 жыл бұрын
Formula Uuno Pure machines, drivers and tracks. Bravery did mean something. And no overtakes? How is it now then? Drivers say its almost impossible to do it now. Was it like one overtake on track in last race example... If you get close, no fight, push button and change place... Or try to RACE and get a penalty if you somehow manage to try pass. True racing... And cars says pröööööt.. F1 is crap now, it WAS...MANS sport. Glad there is good GT-Series now etc. Some actual RACING to watch.
@jiipee74917 жыл бұрын
Ok. But yeah, its quite stupid what they did, make the cars fasters because fan's pressure by adding more aero. They are just shooting on their feets again and again until F1 is gone, its joke now, cars are fast yes but feelings and everything that old F1 did bring is all gone. F1 should be noisy flat out racing on the limit from start to finish and driver in control, but instead we get this aerodynamics lawnmovers saving tyres and fuel from start to finish. F1's soul is ripped away, They are doing what is WEC-Series thing to do. Glad i did see the good last days of F1.
@Spyker89217 жыл бұрын
Formula Uuno That move of Raikkonen was the only overtake of the race.
@ianhoffman1667 жыл бұрын
JPL083 f1 drivers always saved fuel and tyres. you just didn't hear about. cars these days start with less than the fuel limit. so that's not a limiting factor. oh please. people were complaining about Boring f1 in 2005.
@MDDeGrande19942 жыл бұрын
It's kind of sad when you mention the laptime like that though...
@wearevenom97087 жыл бұрын
Sounds are OMG
@t3hdude7 жыл бұрын
OMG listen to those glorious V10s!
@BigElijah7 жыл бұрын
Arhg. The video ended just as I was about to grab some popcorn. :(
@martinjelinek36767 жыл бұрын
same here :(
@dan79857 жыл бұрын
Big Elijah look up on dailymotion, full race there
@najeebahmad476 жыл бұрын
2000 to 2008 best years of F1
@wolfgang24116 жыл бұрын
najeeb ahmad era ferrari was one the worst era in f1 history
@flipflop43964 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgang2411 for Mclaren fanboys yes
@aggerktm3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgang2411 a million times more interesting than modern F1 anyways
@laxman902103 жыл бұрын
1990s much better with Prost, senna, Mansell, Schumacher, hakkinen. Williams, mclaren and Ferrari
@najeebahmad47 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfgang2411 but other side Mclaren N Kimi were beast n others too, no cry babies
@FlavioSpirit3 жыл бұрын
Boa noite !!!! Isso é Fórmula 1 de verdade. V10 é maravilhoso. Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal. Abraço do Brasil......
@adeniltonsilva55873 жыл бұрын
Com certeza mano, qualidade.
@FlavioSpirit3 жыл бұрын
@@adeniltonsilva5587 altíssima qualidade né. Boa tarde meu Amigo, muito obrigado......
@luthfiadhityanto6 жыл бұрын
Still fresh in my mind. I played the game with my mom and my sister with my shiny new PS2. Doctrine done right 👍🏻
@UnleashthePhury2 жыл бұрын
Why does 4 minutes of footage from a race 17 years ago feel way more exciting than than anything I’ve seen from F1 in the last decade?
@Andreas323002 жыл бұрын
Does 2012 count as not interesting?
@INFEDnoX2 жыл бұрын
This is massively nostalgia goggles lmao. As far as racing goes 2005 was dogshit outside of Suzuka and Imola (which were awesome) and the season was practically over by the summer break, with Alonso having a 36-point gap and a more reliable car. But if you like listening to loud engines I guess it was great.
@Mr.D345 жыл бұрын
oh that beautiful sound!
@karahanemre6 жыл бұрын
damn fkin v10 sound,i really missed to hear this sound at williams bmw,memories...
@rasa3192 жыл бұрын
Came here 2021 US gp Kimi and Alonso 😂
@ciaronsmith49955 жыл бұрын
Wow Kimi took an INSANE amount of kerb (on the right) at 3:43. Had to correct the car there.
@Chalky.5 жыл бұрын
"Things just seem to happen right for Alonso" Future Alonso would have disagreed.
@fra93ilgrande2 ай бұрын
THIS IS FORMULA 1 ❤ not the BS we have today… 😢
@derbigpr5006 жыл бұрын
I love the little red nose tips these cars had.
@viandox4157 жыл бұрын
damn those V8 re just literaly sreaming, so great ... 2005, the year were i began to watch formula 1
@Alin-Ionut_F.7 жыл бұрын
Viandox V10's
@s.j.l.87366 жыл бұрын
Viandox They are V10's can't you tell by it's 20,000 RPM scream???
@ineedthatcar71696 жыл бұрын
I cant actually believe the sound of these cars! Bring back the V10s!
@pingpongpung2 жыл бұрын
Here before the title and description get corrected from "Raikkonen" to "Räikkönen".
@justmax30953 жыл бұрын
these two owned v10 era
@eliess-bb21803 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it!! We will see both in 2021 :-)
@alexlazebat8393 жыл бұрын
Engine for Raikkonen meant he started 13th and then a puncture.
@Juzgames6 жыл бұрын
back when alonso had a good car...lolz.
@simondko933 жыл бұрын
kimi had a better(faster) car, but he had a lot of problems.
@simondko933 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube the mclaren was faster idiot
@dougjudy53523 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube Yes reliability was important but Mclaren was clearly faster. Even though kimi had bad luck. I am sure if roles were reversed Kimi would probably win the title but I am sure by a lot less than 21 points. ALonso made just a single mistake in canada. Kimi made atleast 2 from what I remember Nurburgring and Monza
@dougjudy53523 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube Monza you know it wasn't puncture it was delamination by pushing so hard with a very heavier fuel load it will definitely hurt tyres and then he made a mistake by going wide else he would have overtaken Fisi atleast. And Nurburgring he was going off track and had a huge lock up and still was pushing hard after delamination. Some say driveshaft failure was his mistake in Imola as well by attacking kerbs so hard. And in 2003 he was great but Ferrari was at huge disadvantage due to Bridgestone tyres until Hungary. On an average of season Mclaren and Williams looked faster due to Michelin
@dougjudy53523 жыл бұрын
@GT012345tube Nurburgring was definitely his mistake. Even Flavio said that they could easily match Mclaren speed if they used another engine but it was not that reliable so we sacrificed performance for reliability. Its ok to loose 2 or 4 points due to lower performance than to loose 10 points in achieving high performance
@elcordinho22023 жыл бұрын
here after Fernando's 2020 Abu Dhabi test :p
@elliotttalksf1825 Жыл бұрын
MP4-20 my favourite F1 car ever
@valle34527 жыл бұрын
Back in the day when we got *two* Italian GP's, as the race in Imola was still in the calendar then.
@linusschmutz39853 жыл бұрын
Oh now we have 3
@ZeitlosVT Жыл бұрын
so many legendary f1 drivers in the race,
@jacopoguasthellas64795 жыл бұрын
Kimi is the best!
@simondko933 жыл бұрын
omg no xD
@nerrclips72972 жыл бұрын
@@simondko93 well he is, infact he shouldve got pole this very race but grid penalties
@simondko932 жыл бұрын
@@nerrclips7297 omg no xD
@icantthinkofagoodname70122 жыл бұрын
@@simondko93 Omg yes
@simondko932 жыл бұрын
@@icantthinkofagoodname7012 omg no xD
@chee_wai Жыл бұрын
F1 was so much better then
@racingper6 жыл бұрын
these are the sounds of the Gods.
@nicholasmaher91755 жыл бұрын
They don't mention that Juan Montoya blew them both away for the win.
@ciaronsmith49955 жыл бұрын
He did not. Raikkonen blew everyone away in qualifying but had to take a 10 place grid penalty because his engine failed in practice. Montoya didn't finish in front of Kimi once on merit in 2005 except for Brazil and Australia.
@cv8z2313 жыл бұрын
Aahh! The good old names ..the good old cars.
@crazykrizu746 жыл бұрын
God I loved these cars and era
@tescopiwo3 жыл бұрын
These grand prix’s were loud as hell
@alfilo6 жыл бұрын
The old times... the good times.
@SuzukiRacing56 жыл бұрын
V10 V10 V10
@oguzdemirtas18732 жыл бұрын
Satisfied my ears.
@BROS91936 жыл бұрын
Bu sesler artik yok😞
@jacknolan55303 жыл бұрын
I’m watching this in 2021 as a relatively new f1 fan (since 2018). I really expected to see Renault change Alonso’s tyres during the pit stops which I’m sure I’ve seen in most pit stops in the pre hybrid era . Am I losing my mind or is there a reason they didn’t give Alonso fresh Bridgestones?
@jacknolan55303 жыл бұрын
With that said I know the pre hybrid era tyres were capable of lasting a lot longer than the perelli tyres , perhaps half the race . But surely if you’re going to have a 10 second pit stop it’s worth giving your driver fresh rubber no? Someone school me
@bergloff_34103 жыл бұрын
Me to new fan a kimi fan (coming from nascar)
@Red-Melon5 ай бұрын
Tyre changes during the race weren't allowed in 2005, this rule only lasted one year.
@BS-ir7tx5 жыл бұрын
I love this year..
@Rafaela.skydottt5 жыл бұрын
I miss this F1 ..
@shamsonarunkumar73566 жыл бұрын
Luv kimi
@HANNIBAL30ro Жыл бұрын
god those engine sounds
@Jen-qs9nz2 жыл бұрын
Sitting here in 2021, seeing that close racing through the lesmos and that roar and echo out of lesmo 2..... 1:05 man this was F1
@ILuciano4897 жыл бұрын
today there are no fights like raikonnen and alonso.. if you are able to put drs on you can fly by your opponent. hate drs
@Spyker89216 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX7NfHWqf8pnfMk
@INFEDnoX2 жыл бұрын
There was no fight in 2005 either lol. They fought on track maybe twice the entire year (once with different fuel loads too) and the season was practically over by the summer break.
@kanguessokang99187 жыл бұрын
Bring back refueling and slick tires now!
@runawayplane61667 жыл бұрын
Kanguesso Kang We've had slick tyres since 2009...
@BJWT10477 жыл бұрын
FOM recently considered bringing back refuelling, but research showed the number of overtakes dramatically increased once refuelling was banned.
@kanguessokang99187 жыл бұрын
GeorgeEDWARD0376 That's a good point, but I think refueling would bring back more unpredictability as teams would rely more on strategy which would mean different teams having a real shot of winning on race day!
@kanguessokang99187 жыл бұрын
uk Master3333 True!
@BJWT10477 жыл бұрын
Kanguesso Kang I don't see any evidence of that. The way to consistently have unpredictability is for the teams to have equal performance. We had refuelling when Ferrari & Schumacher dominated the 2002 and 2004 seasons.
@paolociarpaglini45246 жыл бұрын
These cars scared me, the actually not WHY ?
@dhersride6 жыл бұрын
where is the other part of the battle? 😰🤤🤤
@NJ07113 жыл бұрын
2:23 Räikkönen on Hamilton, Monza 2018
@MDDeGrande19942 жыл бұрын
By the way, it's funny how the Renault was actually reliable in F1 back then. Their road-going cars, on the other hand... Utter shite lol
@cvpuga Жыл бұрын
those are real f1 cars... not this turbo hibrid bs
@NordickDaimon2 жыл бұрын
look there's lewis hamilton rejoining the track after a pitstop...here comes max verstappen on the outside of turn1, there's no space there...and they crashed ops
@blxtothis6 жыл бұрын
Where’s parts two and three?
@vikramnatarajan2857 Жыл бұрын
The only Adrian newey Car that didn't win a world championship
@quentinhirschfeld9382 Жыл бұрын
It couldn't stop breakdown.
@HexxuSz Жыл бұрын
that mclrn was rocket strapped to wheels
@ciaronsmith49956 жыл бұрын
Raikkonen would have dominated this race (he qualified on pole EASILY with a full tank of fuel), if not for the fact he was given a 10 place grid drop penalty for an engine failure in Free Practice Sorry. You should mention this in the video description.
@binoy.bimbisaran6 жыл бұрын
Ciaron Smith he would have dominated not just this race but the whole of 2005 season had Mercedes engines been a bit more reliable.
@celador146 жыл бұрын
Ciaron Smith obviously, the McLaren was a torpedo that year!
@ciaronsmith49956 жыл бұрын
Not really. Montoya looked normal in it. Kimi was just on fire from 2003-2006. No matter the car he was the fastest.
@ardaakdeniz39054 жыл бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 Maybe I have to rewatch the season again but IIRC Montoya looked much faster than Renaults in some races.
@ciaronsmith49954 жыл бұрын
@@ardaakdeniz3905 No. Not really. Maybe 2 or 3 races, just like in Williams times. Montoya finished behind MSC in the 2005 WDC. Lmao.
@ronaloliveravillanueva16114 жыл бұрын
Kimi raikkonen el mejor 💪🏼😎
@darkangel89225 жыл бұрын
Except for the engine sound, todays F1 races are much much more exciting to watch than the "impossible to overtake" Ferrari era. I remember how extremely boring those races were.
@ciaronsmith49954 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself. Please. 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2007 were more exciting than any season this past decade, except maybe 2012. One off races like Spa 2004, Suzuka 2005 and others were also thrilling to watch.
@hurd_7 жыл бұрын
When F1 was about going fast.
@istanbul-zc3eu5 жыл бұрын
Pff beautifull era of f1
@skittlesbutwithchocolatein22744 жыл бұрын
so much nicer when Croft isn’t around
@Thrashmetalkicksass3 жыл бұрын
Well TV broadcast was as bad as nowadays, missing all on-track action
@kissmlungu7883 Жыл бұрын
Now look at 2021. MONZA
@rahul_abp5 жыл бұрын
Things just seem to happen right for alonso dont they.... Well now when you think about it in 2018
@ciaronsmith49955 жыл бұрын
Alonso fluked into 2005.
@noobednatherium40823 жыл бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 sure he did, sure
@noobednatherium40823 жыл бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 still factually is the 2005, wdc, can't change that, people will never stop attacking you if you decide to understand you cant change the past, so stop complaining, and simply enjoy the classic races.
@ciaronsmith49953 жыл бұрын
@@noobednatherium4082 He did. Driving around doing nothing waiting or Kimi's car to fail in practice (10-place grid drop) or the race.
@noobednatherium40823 жыл бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 but, can you do anything about it?
@pathat3027 Жыл бұрын
Jenson button never more happiest in my life to see button win and the rest of u s e too ✨🌍
@BismillahJannah4 жыл бұрын
only Valentino Rossi46 still race on the GP now....
@detonator21126 ай бұрын
Hakkinen, Prime Kimi at McLaren and Alonso were the only true top talents during the Schumacher reign. Compare it to say, 1985 alone that had seven world champions on the grid. Jones, Rosberg, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Mansell, Piquet. Sure Montoya, Hill, Alesi were good drivers but not quite up there.
@klockenberg22993 ай бұрын
Prime Hakkinen cuz 2001 Hakkinen = 2014 Raikkonen. And for 1985, Jones and Rosberg are on Montoya, Hill, or Alesi level.
@detonator21123 ай бұрын
@@klockenberg2299 Rosberg made Mansell look like an amateur in 1985 at Williams.
@klockenberg22993 ай бұрын
@@detonator2112 amateur? it was close and cars back then are far more unreliable
@detonator21123 ай бұрын
@@klockenberg2299 No it wasn't close at all. Watch the season and don't just rely on the stats. Points wise it was close but Mansell was about 1 sec slower in the races.... constantly. And yes, Rosberg had 4 or 5 DNF's from 1st place that year.
@detonator21123 ай бұрын
And do you seriously think Montoya would have won 1982 drivers' title with a non-turbo car that had 200 horsepower less than the top cars? It was the worst car that ever won the championship.
@pedrazza5537 Жыл бұрын
Uii big fail. Alonso destroys massa 2010 in ferrari and also kimi in 2014. Massa an kimi was 2007 a long time near togheter and 2008 massa fight with ham and not kimi. The 2005 mc laren was a monster ...with sad efficency. But in this car is it strong for 1 race will be everyone winner.
@pathat3027 Жыл бұрын
Fernando alonso ✨
@ps-mq7tm2 жыл бұрын
🙋♂️🏁🏎
@manuelaguado50345 жыл бұрын
When the F1 was exciting. Beautiful cars and nice sound, what we have now?? HALO and that engine sounds... a clear example about how to ruin a great sport.
@satcs49915 жыл бұрын
In the past, there were good and bad things just like today. But yes, the v10 sound is missing :( And somehow missing action.. everything has become so predictable. Was a great time back then. Too bad that you can´t see these beautiful cars live on tv anymore!
@mirkonardin54017 жыл бұрын
top speed renault ??
@provokater19822 жыл бұрын
Pure racing….no f***** DRS
@rondonnis65885 жыл бұрын
what do deaf people say when they see a formula one car from 2005 "good looking car" a hearing person "i love the sound" personally im with the deaf though im not deaf but i say "good looking car" because you are all driving me crazy going on about the sound of the cars all the time surely there is more to formula one than a very loud engine. maybe people who say that want to seem like fans when they probably have nothing original too say and arent true fans like me.
@jyhan1q943 жыл бұрын
When F1 reached at it's peak aesthetics. I don't care about engine sound anymore. Halo can stay as it saved Leclerc and Grosjean. But I'll rather choose Williams' walrus nose than dick nose anyday!