2008 Ford Escape transmission wont shift until 4k rpm or higher

[@JohnHaslip]

Best most imformative step by step video covering disassembly and reassembly. Daughters 2008 Escape had 2-4 band go out at just under 100K miles. $4500 for the rebuild. Pop ahead just over 3 years and 58K more miles, just outside the rebuild warranty and the band broke. Tranny shop said ut needed another rebuild and labor costs had gone up so quoted over 5K for a rebuild. Daughter was stressed as she just bought a house and didnt want a car paymwnt. I watched thjs video 3 times and tackeled the job myself following the great step by step. Band was beomen. Slapped in the new $30 band. Car is now shifting great, saved thenkid $5K and life is good. Thank you so much for taking the time to post this informative video. You are a true professional in your trade!!😊😊

[@angusgillingham2323]

Retired after 34 yrs as a mechanic and I have to say that it is very generous of you to share your knowledge like this and save the general public time and money. I think you’re a person like myself who believes in sharing knowledge with those that deserve it. I still learn every day or else it’s a wasted day imo and never too proud to admit learning as I did in this excellent job description you did here “brothers in grease”,lol.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Thanks for kind comments.

[@aterack833]

Speaking of which, if I can manage to record it and properly, I’m going to do a disassembly of the insides like this up to the input shaft and forward sprag, I already had it all apart but didn’t get the pump shaft aligned correctly, the instructions after torquing the pump was to turn the crank a little while tightening it in, which I didn’t do or realize till it was too late, I’ve had everything that comes out out and even have the valve body out without removing the transmission from the vehicle, the input shaft is the hardest part because you have to push in and tilt to lift the internal part of the torque converter and then quickly roll the shaft to get it into the splines, takes a few tries and luck to the point that I won’t try again unless there’s evidence I may need to check the bearings for damage due to lack of lube pressure, this was on a rebuild that was botched due to poor parts used even though they were unlikely fit for operation, I had movement prior to the first disassembly and checking pump output has not even a trickle, every normal wear item can be done on these in vehicle except the low/reverse clutch, the chain, hard parts that shouldn’t fail, cleaning the chain shield magnet, and actually replacing the filter, though the filter can be flushed very thoroughly if both the pump and valve body are removed

[@EC-mc7vg]

I've been a mechanic here in Texas for more than 40 years. We haven't had very many Escapes come into the shop over the years and have only replaced 2 escape transmissions that were trashed, not from the experience you were having. A few months back my girlfriend's son's 2008 Escape lost 2nd gear. I searched KZbin and your video popped right up as I was experiencing the very symptoms listed in the heading of your video. With my shop discount from Ford the band and seal cost me 55 bucks and I had it back on the road in 2 hours. I just wanted to say thank for a very informative video and that after 40 years of turning a wrench I am still able to learn things and be grateful for it. Thank you.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Glad it helped I've been doing it a very long time too and I still love learning new things as well, in this industry the spread of knowledge is huge because nobody can know everything.

[@TomSelleck777]

Brother I can't thank you enough. This video was invaluable. I would have had no idea where to start other than find a new trans. The way you went through everything was perfect. It got me back on the road again for mere pennies compared to what I would have been doing. I wish I could shake your hand. Thanks again !!!

[@dericjakob2775]

I am not a mechanic at all. I can do brakes and oil changes. I took this project on with my 2008 Escape. I would not/could not have done it without your video. Thank you for your help!

[@HooptiesGarage]

Feels good doesn't it!

[@tomstricklin3409]

I’ve got a 2006., followed your instructions, thank you. Running perfect, 220,000 miles, these are great cars, so easy to fix, great acceleration.

[@johnnyboy6429]

Easy to fix?! Try getting to the solenoids 😭

[@jameswaters8194]

I just finished this repair. thanks very informative video. I did a couple things different. 1st I only did the front 3 engine mounts RF take all the top bolts out. Worked fine for clearance 2nd I did not take the caliper off all I needed to do was take the upper strut bolt out and loosen the lower one its enough to get the CV joint out but make sure you still disconnect the ABS wire from the strut. 3rd I only disconnected one side (Driver side ) of the cross member that runs right to left under the car you can pry it down enough to take the center beam out it has the be disconnected at the front.

[@theodorekluge9352]

i'M looking at a used escape as a beater, issue exactly as you listed, shift at 3500-4000. i thought id have to replace the entire trans, thank you so much for sharing this info, planning to order the parts soon as i get it home!

[@gabriellopez6140]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge! A transmission shop wanted to charge me $1450 to “rebuild” the transmission. Found a mechanic to do this for $350 total with parts! Thanks again. Would have just taken the shops word for it without this video!

[@johnnyboy6429]

Dude you got a DEAL

[@treallen7344]

Yeah you got one hell of a deal! That's awesome though

[@gregr1578]

to everyone about to attempt this repair make sure the pump is seated correctly when you’re reinstalling it, the first time i tried it wasn’t set down properly and the pump ended up breaking and it wouldn’t pump any fluid, got a used one from a pick and pull and reinstalled it and sure enough the car drove beautifully. i’m 17 and i pulled this off on my own. the second time i tried reinstalling the pump what i did was install the hex shaft on the converter side of the tranny, placed the pump in and slowly rotated the pump until i felt it pop in just a bit, and then rotated it back to line up with the bolt holes. worked great wouldn’t have been able to do it without this video so thanks

[@HooptiesGarage]

I think that's one of the biggest problems with this job is damaging the rod or the pump going back in or not cleaning around case and having pump leaks. It's super important to go slow when tightening the bolts and criss crossing as you go.

[@taggah2000]

I found it is possible to get that middle gear and clutch assembly back in without pulling the transmission. - First check the axial placement of the assembly relative to the cutouts on in inside of the main housing so see if it did move. The face of the assembly should be even with the machined in step. -pull the assembly out. Remove the smaller snap ring in the front face, so the inner clutch packs fall free from the outer can. Also pull the outer can apart into two parts. - you'll see a series of splined rings and the torque shaft still in the transmission. Pull that out. - assemble the clutch pack from inside the can to the spline rings and torque shaft. - put that into the transmission. Use the hex pump shaft as a handle inserted into, but not all the way through, the torque shaft as a handle so you can pitch up/down the torque shaft to get it to assemble. - from here, start assembling the other part assemblies one by one into the transmission. - you can use globs of transgel to hold clutch plates in place so they don't slip down due to gravity after you center and align them. - when assembling, it is possible to rotate and move the part you are inserting back and forth to grab the different clutch plates in the stack. Just count how many you need to feel before it is seated. - and eventually, you are done. All set. - keep aware that most of the parts that have multiple spline sets or spline sets and castellations on them need to be clocked to the parts already in the transmission. This is not hard to do, just look for where spline son the different sets align nicely and use that as your reference point. -it took me about 2-3 hours, including the time spent figuring out what to do at each step and if it was possible or not. So still a lot less than pulling the whole transmission.

[@Jason-do6cp]

Do a vid

[@donaldmoffatt3434]

I owe you one Helped me with my daughters car Honestly Can’t thank you properly like this

[@HooptiesGarage]

Glad the video helped!

[@pablogonzalez1614]

Thank you very much for sharing that valuable information. I have a car with same problem and after watching your video I opened the transmission and that was the problem. Thanks a lot!!!

[@iceman5418]

Great video!. Saved a bunch of $$$ Did not have to remove the battery (had plenty of access) and replaced the transmission coolant line in the process due to rust. Thank you for sharing!

[@hardcoretrout]

You are a Rock Star brother. Whatched entire thing even though I don't have a tranny issue or an 08 Escape. I am sure this has given many the courage to attempt the repair themselves or prevented them paying for unnecessary total rebuild. God Bless You for sharing.

[@manuelherrera3456]

Thanks to this man I could fix my gf car, thanks your very much to take time of your life to show us new things 👑🔥

[@HooptiesGarage]

Appreciate the comment

[@raynus1160]

@20:46. Unfortunately, the assembly can slide out with very little effort, usually as a result of binding with the pump spindle during removal - hence the importance of prying the transmission down to fully clear the body structure. I was lucky & able to reinstall the assembly by holding the speed sensor tabs with two small vice-grips, and rotating the inner & outer carriers until all the clutch plates found their seat. It took a dozen attempts, but it will work. Using a couple of dabs of ATF-friendly assembly grease to 'hold' the two clutch packs in place makes it a bit easier. This is an excellent video & I would recommend following this gentleman's advice to the letter.

[@HooptiesGarage]

I know it does happen I've been lucky so far knock on wood and I've done quite a few. Glad you got yours back in.

[@hairpunut]

Ive done this one time in a non trans shop where we dont normally do anything with trans except lines and basic stuff. But one day we did one for a lady because they quoted her 2k for a rebuild. And me and the boss heard about this. So we went and did it for a third what the other shop wanted at least. The lady was happy. And we learned something new lol. And now ill be doing a second one for a family member. Lol

[@leroygreen1877]

41:52 PO Code(s) 732 Seconder Gear Ratio incorrect, PO 734 Fourth Gear Ratio Incorrect. First time viewer here. Good job recording this repair.

[@gigigonzalezgaillot7042]

I wish I lived in your town or if I could do this myself! This is exactly what my 2008 Ol’ Betsy Escape started doing yesterday. My only car, 😪

[@scottgamble8772]

This is fantastic best video I have seen so far great job a true step by step video

[@freddeanababyslim4922]

What

[@SgtStang]

My escape just turned 250,000km. Then did this. Just ordered parts THANKS!!

[@rtp_tony9665]

the best most in depth video I've found your the greatest. 👌

[@justindominice8282]

Hey man, I just wanted to say you have the best video on KZbin by far explaining how to do this! You’re the man, bro!🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@rintunt]

Great detailed hands-on information. Thanks for uploading.

[@briandearing6238]

excellent videos man! really appreciate you educating us!

[@SouloftheTroll]

​@Hoopties Garage and @Avril Burrel Proud of you! In my professional career I often hired women because I knew damn well that there is literally nothing a guy can do that a gal educated in the same expertise couldn't also! And 9 times out of ten, women were more dependable employes even with the additional responsibilities of being a mother. When I was long term employed 2000 miles from home, my amazing wife called to tell me our hot water heater failed. I ordered a new one, and since our home is fairly remote in NM, when it arrived and with me on the phone to answer questions, SHE took out the bad water heater, then fully installed the new one entirely by herself; plumbing, water lines, gas line, and electrical! You remind me of her! Good on you. Guess I should do this repair myself. Thank you @Hoopties Garage for the great instructional video!!, and thank you @Avril Burrel for your inspiration.

[@bobbyfurlow1103]

Very good video you make it so simple. I’m doing mine tomorrow if I can get the band and seal thanks so much!

[@HooptiesGarage]

Make sure you take your time when removing so the whole assembly doesn't come out I leave 2 bolts in it loose until the seal breaks loose. Also take care to clean case really good when installed new seal.

[@stfu5617]

Buddy! Thank you for saving me 2 g’s. Killer vid!

[@HooptiesGarage]

Glad it helped

[@stfu5617]

So i scanned my escape, the only code that came up was an egr fault code.. shouldn’t there be a transmission code ? Thanks

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@stfu5617 normally it will be accompanied with a incorrect gear ratio code.

[@stfu5617]

Ok thanks! Ill letcha know how she goes😎

[@fredzirzowsr.8905]

Wish I had found this 8 years ago. O7 started doing this but kept going so we just kept driving it. 300K and last summer the front frame cracked. Found a o6 rust free with 77K on it down there in Missouri. No it's broke down in Georgia with PO 741 waiting on transport to show up and haul it back to North West Indiana.

[@LarryODonnell-x3k]

I can’t find the part # for the o ring seal please help

[@avrilburrell4275]

I just did my band replacement. Got it back together and now I can't get the car out of park(the cv shafts won't spin) the rod looked ok and the pump seated in nice and easy, also nothing else slid out. Its hard being a girl asking questions, men look at me puzzled I even attempted this. I'm a bit stumped, any pointers are much appreciated.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Does the shifter go out of park the trans is just stuck? If that's the case it really sounds like the rod is not engaged properly .

[@avrilburrell4275]

It wouldn't come out of park at the shifter.. That rod was it, I redid it and it's fine. I seriously appreciate your video! Everyone said I couldn't do it, so I had to prove them wrong, thank you!

[@SouloftheTroll]

@@avrilburrell4275 Proud of you! In my professional career I often hired women because I knew damn well that there is literally nothing a guy can do that a gal educated in the same expertise couldn't also! And 9 times out of ten, women were more dependable employes even with the additional responsibilities of being a mother. When I was long term employed 2000 miles from home, my amazing wife called to tell me our hot water heater failed. I ordered a new one, and since our home is fairly remote in NM, when it arrived and with me on the phone to answer questions, SHE took out the bad water heater, then fully installed the new one entirely by herself; plumbing, water lines, gas line, and electrical! You remind me of her! Good on you. Guess I should do this repair myself. Thank you @Hoopties Garage for the great video, and thank you @Avril Burrel for your inspiration.

[@kingstonmyherovang8959]

Great video!! After watching this video it gave me enough confidence to do this job myself rather then pay a shop!! After completing the job, and refilling trans fluid, the car starts up and runs fine but now I’m not getting any movement when I put it into gear. Was experiencing no 2nd and 4th gear but the band wasn’t broken when I replaced it. Was really worn down though. Any ideas on why trans is not engaging now?

[@HooptiesGarage]

My guess is the rod that goes from torque converter to the oil pump was broken or not seated properly when you put the pump back in, if that rod is broke the trans will not engage.

[@MFLP1979]

I have put it back the rod properly pressing it till back and now when I press the acceleration pedal it seems like it does not have enough torque and I have to accelerate too much in all the gear shifts, any idea would be appreciated?

[@davidduran539]

@@MFLP1979 did you ever figure out the problem?

[@MFLP1979]

@@davidduran539 Yes, I think I wrote what happened. Basically you have to check the correct atf fluid level, I though I don't waste too much but yeah it was so when you get that everything works as expected.

[@davidduran539]

@@MFLP1979 thank you for replying!!! I did exactly what the video said. After i finished the first time, i went through all the gears and the car wouldn't move at. Today i took everything apart again and i made sure that the black rod/shaft was seated properly. I put everything together and put it through all the gears and it still wont move. So youre saying its the fluid???

[@이또리-k1c]

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[@CryingOrc1]

My 08 reads 2nd, 4th gear and shifts at over 3k rpm and revs 3-3.5k at highway speed (60-70). All the places I took it to recommended tranny replacement. Man I wish you were in Southern California.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Yeah for some reason most shops won't do this repair I get that a lot

[@xs360xs]

You are amazing man, i have the same problem, your video help me to fix, greetings and sorry for my english xD

[@jorgge5693]

18 Days ago i took my escape with this exact problem to a shop. I Got Quoted $2800 in CA. As of today i still don’t have my CAR. Now they have a whole bunch of codes and the speed at idle is 10MPH. The wait continues. My gut feeling was to drive away when i showed up at the shops at 7:50 AM for their 8:00 AM Opening time and the owner did not arrive until 8:30.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Sorry to hear that, yeah people can get into trouble with transmissions if they don't have experience with them .

[@jorgge5693]

Hoopties Garage Its Transmission Speciality shop too. Now they have all kinds of codes and taking it to a buddy that knows electrical work, I want to pull my car out and call it quits. What about the parts they installed am I responsible for their labor, I have no paperwork only a verbal $2800 qoute over the phone. I did sign the paper dropping it off but i got no copy.

[@jorgge5693]

Hoopties Garage Just got my car back 31 days later. New TCM and then they had trouble programming it.

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@jorgge5693 that's odd they had trouble ford has good support for programming they pay a small fee and they can connect into your tcm with ford's website and program it. A decent shop should be able to perform that procedure with a j2534 pass thru and a laptop

[@jorgge5693]

Hoopties Garage They had a buddy from a ford shop come by a second time, on Tuesday he was going to flash the computer but it turned i already had the most recent info. Then the TCM was ordered Wednwsday, issues remained, Then today the ford buddy, returned and it turns the VIN number wasnt being programmed and that was causing issues. Our Honda accord is leaking transmission oil, we had a rebuild 3 years ago, we are not returning to the same shop.

[@rodneycallahan3117]

After spending a lot of money to tow the vehicle home to my garage, replacing the 2-4 band that was broken, put everything back together, just like others commented, now has no forward or reverse. So we decided to sell to a scrap yard. Unless you have a lot of experience with transmissions I would not recommend taking on this job. It was my first and last transmission job.

[@HooptiesGarage]

More than likely the rod broke you have to go pretty slow and even putting the pump back in or it will snap that rod.

[@rodneycallahan3117]

@@HooptiesGarage yea there was some noises going on as I tightened the pump back in there, Even though I lifted the pump and carefully pushed it into place, then staggered tightening the bolts gradually. A transmission shop here in Edmonton, Canada said $3000 to rebuild the transmission, but it’s my daughters car and she doesn’t want to sink any more money into a 15 year old vehicle. Thanks for the video though, it was a fun project non the less.

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@rodneycallahan3117 that sucks sorry to hear that. I actually broke that rod once a long time ago and had to go back in there and fish it out and put a new one in. It's def a pain in the butt job mainly because of the pump and the rust ring depending on the climate the car lives in.

[@JoseRodriguez-fy4ho]

@@HooptiesGaragemy transmission pump shaft broke after replacing my transmission band on my escape any suggestions after installing a new one

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@JoseRodriguez-fy4ho when you put the new one just make sure to go real slow when tightening the pump back in alternate the bolts and take it slow.

[@haydenventresca1027]

Anyone know the parts numbers for the transmission pump seal? I have found the band itself no problem: #5L8Z7D034D. But unable to find the seal so far.

[@이또리-k1c]

Thank you for watching the video. Thank you I have to do this too, but the transmission pump removal tool I'm worried because I don't have it

[@HooptiesGarage]

You will prob definitely need a slide hammer

[@Mach-ow7dx]

Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@allanb9130]

Xcellent video. You are very competent and experienced with these vehicles. I have a question for the same year vehicle. Do you have any videos for changing water pump on the same year vehicle?

[@HooptiesGarage]

I don't believe I do sorry

[@grantdubridge7995]

i don't know if the Mazda Tribute mounts are that much different but I only took out the two front bolts that hold the support going front to back and one bolt going straight down in an engine mount. The engine dropped far enough to get the pump out. If your pump is that rusty it will start seeping fluid soon. they are not expensive at Transtar. I paid only $32 for the new 2/4 band.

[@Lucky7777-e9d]

Plz make one another video how to pullout that plate by pulling hammer or any other tools..thanks

[@HooptiesGarage]

I don't think anything other than a slide hammer would work well on removing the pump

[@rpenner999]

I tried this on my 2008 Escape. You have to make SURE that you get that pump shaft seated right. On start up I heard a sound and knew right away that I had likely broken the shaft. Sure enough the car wouldn't move. I was 99% sure the stack didn't move when I took the pump out. I followed all directions, slowly tightening the bolts criss cross. But I guess it still wasn't seated properly. Not sure now if I will attempt again and replace the shaft or just buy a used transmission. This is a big job for a diy but doable, but I'm really disappointed that it didn't work out for me.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Usually you can get the shaft out if you decide to go back in. You can kind of feel the pump and shaft kind of pop together when you are slowly tightening it down. I broke one once and was able to fix it by pulling it back apart. I went to junkyard and got new shaft.

[@rpenner999]

@@HooptiesGarage Thanks I think I'm going to try. I've read some comments where they manually turned the crank to help pop the shaft in. Have you ever done that, and how is it done?

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@rpenner999 no but that would work.

[@darkknightstacker5420]

@@rpenner999 Hey bud I actually did the same exact thing you did. I followed this video and did it all perfectly and assumed the shaft rod was seated. I had no idea about turning the crank when I was done with the job. I went to start it up and it made an awful noise and wouldn't move! I was so pissed off. I called a transmission shop and the guy was nice enough to listen and help me. He told me that when your done you have to turn the crankshaft which is accessible on the front passenger side (remove the tire and plastic housing and it's right there, just use a socket I believe it was a 19mm or so and slowly turn the crank a few times and it will seat correctly). It sucks to have to do it all over again as it is a big job. It didn't just bend my rod either it actually screwed up my pump as well which I ended up having to get rebuilt. It was a damn mess but the second time was a charm and it's working great now. For anyone that does this job I hope they see to turn the crank when they are done as it could save them a lot of time and money. Now months later the starter just went out on the same car which is how I stumbled on this video again. 😆 I see this was a few months back but I hope you were able to get it fixed!

[@mike9119]

I have the 07 escape with NO codes showing, 144000 miles lost 1st and reverse. when cold it will work for a very short time and will not shift. Trans fluid full, it smelt burnt. All I've come across is that the CD4E trans don't hold up. I did notice at times starting up the car, it would make odd thump sound sometimes before it went out on me. in getting it rebuilt by a guy been in business for 50yrs.

[@johnasby1351]

Hello. Does anyone have torque specs for everything that needed taken apart from motor mounts , trans pump, brackets underneath brakes etc

[@emmanuelinzunza8810]

Thank you very much for the video. Recently repaired my 2008 Escape from the same problem. How long does the life of the transmission extend by doing this repair? Is it reliable for heading out on a road trip?

[@HooptiesGarage]

Really won't affect the rest of the trans you should be good to go unless you have other issues with the trans like skipping or other codes

[@mike9119]

Curious, using a new band from FORD, is it wise seeing they used inferior band in the first place?

[@HooptiesGarage]

I'm not sure if anyone makes a stronger one, I have replaced with Ford and so far haven't had any issues with breaking again but of course it could take years to fail again.

[@eastwood00]

Great informational video on what might be the issue with my 2008 Ford escape. I think my band is broken cause it is having an issue shifting from first to second. I believe the band broke when shifting into 4th gear going about 60MPH the engine just rev'd with no acceleration. so I put the can in neutral and coasted the the stop light. I was able to get home in first gear going about 20MPH. I recently just replace the shifter cable because the end that attaches the the shifter broke but I was able to manually push and pull the cable to put it into gear. I have it adjusted properly because it has been fine for about a week with no issues. I dont think I want to take this on myself but what is the average cost of the band? I dont like getting screwed from a shop

[@HooptiesGarage]

Depending on condition of pump etc I usually charge between 350-400 for the job if everything else is in good condition

[@michaellusk7497]

We are experiencing the same issue with our daughter’s 08 Mercury Mariner. The error codes are P0732 & P0734…Gear 2 and Gear 4 Incorrect ratio. Do you have any buddies that live in the Omaha area that could replace the 2-4 band??

[@HooptiesGarage]

No sorry I don't.

[@matthewsabb4842]

My Escape is shifting late, but its not throwing a code and the only light that comes on is the wrench light . Could it be a mass air sensor. I live in Pennsylvania.

[@juju-ew5gm]

2008 Ford Escape has to get to 3000 rpm to shift then drives normally same issue or worst

[@Mr_BUSINESS_24_7]

Is there some other issue with the transmission that is causing this band to prematurely fail on every one of these transmissions ?

[@HooptiesGarage]

I honestly don't know it's a pretty thin band that's moving a fairly heavy SUV tranny's have had bands like that forever though

[@ivnpnz8184]

Thanks for the video it's really helpful

[@sergiothehandyman]

That's the same problem i have now... I don't know nothing about mechanic, my question is, how much this job cost if I take it to a mechanic. Thank you.

[@HooptiesGarage]

really depends on where you take it their parts mark up and average labor rate in your area. I usually charge around $350-400 depending on fluid and parts cost

[@christophermoody6840]

I just bought a 2012 escape that only had 48,000 miles on it. I notice that when shifting between gears 2 and 3 it wont shift until it reaches 2,500 RPM where it will shift at 2,000 rpm when shifting between all other gears. Is this a problem that will only get worse with time.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Possibly I would keep an eye on it I don't think it's a band issue because when they let go they just snap they don't go out slowly

[@christophermoody6840]

@HooptiesGarage hey man, I appreciate your reply. I found another video of a guy explaining my exact situation from gear 2 to 3. He says he does a drain and refill of the transmission fluid ×2 (two times) and it fixes the issue 🤷 and he stays on a schedule every 15,000 miles of changing the fluid. Seems it's a common problem with these escapes.

[@KosiFoli-gd4iw]

Transmission is hot and you drilling, can the be probleme

[@jeanineking1763]

I wish you lived in California my 2007 Ford Escape just started acting up. When I press on the gas it revs real high and has a hard time switching gears. The shop I brought it to said , you need a new transmission.😭😭This car was gifted to me when my mom died...it only has 58600 miles on it. Being a single mom it's hard to find a mechanic that knows what they are doing and won't screw me over.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Yes unfortunately a lot of people will just want to replace the transmission instead of going in and fixing the band. Under normal circumstances that would be pretty normal for a shop but on these transmissions the band is a fairly easy straightforward job for a professional mechanic

[@jeanineking1763]

I am going to take it to Auto Zone and have them put one of the code reader things on my car. Is there any certain code I should be looking for?

[@christanhartley434]

Great video but I must warn you, the drum can very easily come out, I’ve had it happen 4 times out of 8 jobs I’ve done and I was holding it in with a screw driver ever time, I think sometimes the drums are already popped out from people driving it with a bad band for a long time.

[@AYankeeGirl]

Thank you so much for the video sir. Would you be able to inform on the part #, part name or part information to order the band that needs replacing? Thanks in advance!

[@HooptiesGarage]

I believe i show the number in video if not contact your local ford dealer they can look it up for you.

[@robertcarr1987]

For my 2007 Escape with the CD4E transmission the O-ring is Ford 3L8Z-7A248-AA Seal and the band is Ford 5L8Z-7D034-CBand Assembly - Transm. Intermediate

[@thenovicehobbyist313]

Awesome video, from Canada

[@lexitoms]

I just only replaced the pump seal and the axel seal. But now the car won't shift into gear any suggestions on what might have happened?

[@HooptiesGarage]

The rod that goes from the pump to torque converter might have broke if you aren't real careful reinstalling that and putting the pump back on slowly and evenly I have seen those rods break and or destroy the pump, not saying you did that but it's easy to do. Only good news on that is if the trans was working before that fine then worse case scenario take a trip to junkyard and get a new rod and pump and try again .

[@myrightsmatter696]

Having same issue 2008 Ford Escape xlt 3.0 V6 stuck limp more yellow wrench lights up no checked engine light no code ran a trans diagnostic no second third gear. I was told replace entire transmission. Can this procedure above be done replace bands might work. The second mechanic told me entire trans need to be replaced even if the bands are broke no way replacing them what are your thoughts thanks for input greatly appreciated

[@HooptiesGarage]

Well that's obviously false information I change the band in this video. Nobody just wants to fix a problem anymore they just want to replace the whole thing and make more money. If you completely lost 2nd and 3rd it's more than the band but if it eventually shifts into those gears around 4k rpm than it's likely the band

[@roger5638]

How did you ensure the pump drive shaft engaged the pump when you put the pump back in ? Rotate the pump or a wrench on the crank pulley ?

[@amadbagery6250]

Hi, I have a Ford Escape 2007 I replaced the band after I put it together it did not change any dose not go to the gear or I had to wait about one minute and go to the gear but it still did not move. Do you have any idea what I should do to know

[@HooptiesGarage]

Sounds like maybe you broke the pushrod that goes into the pump if it was going into gear before you replaced band it's very easy to do

[@GODKNOWSUSBYNAME]

Omg this is what my escape is doing. Where are you located? I have reached out to mechanics and they want to charge me 700 dollars for this. I am a single mom and my son is handicapped in a wheelchair. All my extra money goes to medical bills.

[@HooptiesGarage]

St Louis. Mo

[@cars32222]

Got a 2011 Escape that rough shifts in second (3K + rpm). It occasionally knocks if you really put the pedal down. Others gears are smooth, is this related to a band?

[@HooptiesGarage]

Doesnt sound like it

[@cars32222]

Thanks! Time to think about a rebuild?@@HooptiesGarage

[@thegreatpatsy]

Is it possible for the pump itself to go? On mine, the tranny only engages when cold, after that it's as if it is in neutral. I already had 2 solenoid codes and replaced the solenoid but still no progress except that the codes are now gone.

[@HooptiesGarage]

It is but usually if pump is out it won't engage at all

[@thegreatpatsy]

Thanks. Do you have any idea what else my problem could be? I've been on a million message boards and everyone is saying different things. The truck only has 76k miles, so this is a real bummer!@@HooptiesGarage

[@luisjandres1626]

I wanted to see how that pump got pulled out with the tool.

[@Xbox-tweebish]

Thank you for this. I have exact issue and was getting ready to pay for a rebuild. Appreciate your work!

[@HooptiesGarage]

If you do this job yourself make sure to clean around the housing really really good where the pump goes back in, if there's any rust or debris it will rip or knick the new seal and you will have leaks, also lubricate that seal really good. Other than that it's a pretty straight forward job.

[@danholland7989]

I have 2008 escape. Put a new tranny pump on. Had a guy do this. Not a shop.the new pump wasnt primed and twisted and snapped the rod . replaced the rod and primed the pump on 2nd install. Now the car will not move in any gear. If the car is raised the wheels turn by hand but when on the ground it will not even push while in neutral. The original pump was cracked from rust and leaking but the tranny shifted perfectly. Now any gear is like in park.

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@danholland7989 that pump had nothing to do with being primed when he installed the pump he didn't install it straight down and if you torque the bolts unevenly it will break that rod. When it breaks that rod it also kills the pumps usually. You need a new pump and rod and someone to install correctly. like I said in my video I used two studs to allow pump to go on straight. It's not a real hard job but you def have to take your time installing pump down even or you will run into the problems you are experiencing.

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@danholland7989 the reason your transmission will not go now is because when it snapped that rod it also probably destroyed your oil pump. If the transmission was working before and now it's not my suggestion would be to get another new pump and have someone else install it that has more experience. Good luck!

[@danholland7989]

@@HooptiesGarage thank you. I will get a new tranny pump i guess. Thanks again

[@Chris_BH]

whats the part number for the rubber seal thats mentioned at 30:26? Thank you very much.

[@HooptiesGarage]

I really don't know your ford dealer can look it up they change part and update part numbers all the time

[@roger5638]

Do you think i would be able to braze or silver solder a tiny split in the pump end cap. Tranny works great but spraying fluid out of a tiny split in the rusty end cap

[@SkapeDG]

thank you for sharing this video, it helped me figure out what is wrong with my ford escape. do you know how much it would cost to have this fixed? i'm no mechanic myself and don't have tools or a space to get the job done, that is why i have to use a mechanic for something like this. is it worth fixing? i got this escape used for $1500, 155k miles

[@HooptiesGarage]

If you find the right person I would think around $350-400 thats usually my price depending on how rusty the pump is etc.

[@ryangodfrey2655]

I live across the river from stl. Iv got an 08 with 140k and the same symptoms. You still doing this work?

[@HooptiesGarage]

Yes

[@johnnyboy6429]

Im having an issue where my escape wont shift when engine is hot. Just replaced solenoids and valve body. Thoughts?

[@HooptiesGarage]

Do you have any codes ? That won't be a band issue

[@johnnyboy6429]

@@HooptiesGarage no codes until I drive and then o/d code comes on, tranny shuts down, cany move.

[@user-zo4ys9bd3m]

great vid really informative stuff i like how well you know your stuff! could make some tips and tricks videos if your goal is to gain more viewers, theres alot of great content in this video about cd4e trans and transmission in general that i couldnt find without quite a bit of searching on youtube untill i came across your video. Following popular mechanic channels by touching on common issues unlike niche ones if your goal is still to grow the channel. Otherwise many thanks !

[@digitalorgy3784]

I have a 2008 escape 4 cyl auto trans stated slipping all the sudden under heavy load so I changed fluid seemed better on test drive but then would slip out of gear all together u think it’s just the band ?

[@HooptiesGarage]

I think you need a rebuild unfortunately that doesn't sound like a band issue.

[@digitalorgy3784]

@@HooptiesGarage what about the tcc solenoid.i have seen similar symptoms with other posts stating that fixed it. What do u think

[@faziobacktho7832]

Hey! Great video I’m experiencing same issue on my ford escape. I called a shop though and he said he’s willing to do it but said it’s a risk doing it this way? He said something I believe a rod could fall back and would then need to pull the whole trans out and fix it? Is this true? I am going to do it my self but wanted to get a Quote from a shop.

[@HooptiesGarage]

The pump drive rod will come out that's not a issue, but it is slightly risky the entire trans drum etc could slip out that's why I hold a screw driver to it while removing the pump. I have done this several times and never had a issue but it is a small possibility

[@atyourservice8161]

Hi there, thank you for this video, it was very helpful. I did this repair. Disassembly went flawlessly. Only, the drum did come out. It did not come all the way out, but did try to fall out. I reassembled, and then went to start the vehicle, and it won't start. Check engine light is on and blinking. Any extra advice? If the drum comes partially out, why can't it be put back into place and the pump tightened down? Please advise.

[@lifeislife489]

Did you figure it out?

[@atyourservice8161]

@@lifeislife489 I did. After disassembling and reassembling four times. The vehicle did start. I ended up fitting the drum back in, lined up the best I could. Put it in gear, and it worked. Shifted great. Only, had a steady stream of transmission fluid coming from the bell housing. After resealing, I had to take it into the shop. Turned out there were multiple cracks in the bell housing. Remanufactured transmission, $4100 with a 100k warranty. I learned a ton, and the repair did indeed work. I just had other issues. Thank you for following up.

[@nickwinter2145]

I have a 08 It won't shift until 4k rmp I plugged my scanner it doesn't have 2nd or 4th would that be the band

[@HooptiesGarage]

If it won't shift at all into 2 or 4 that sounds like a rebuild. If it shifts into those gears at 4k that sounds like band

[@nickwinter2145]

Okay thank you and it won't it gose to 3rd at 4k

[@staciafrye9744]

Thank you so much for this video. Could you give a ballpark of what you would charge for this job? I’m in Massachusetts and would like an idea of what to expect. Thanks so much.

[@HooptiesGarage]

I usually charge with parts around $375-400. You might have a hard time finding someone to do it most places just want to replace the whole transmission but i have done several of these with no issues.

[@staciafrye9744]

Hoopties Garage Ugh!! I wish you were close. That’s exactly the problem I’m running into; I keep hearing just replace the whole tranny. But I’m going to keep looking around. Thanks so much for your quick response!

[@HooptiesGarage]

Yeah I've had people as far as Ohio want to bring it to me because they can't find people to just replace the band. There's absolutely no reason to change entire transmission over the band.

[@staciafrye9744]

Hoopties Garage I sure did try to calculate how much it would cost to try to get it out there! 🤣🤣 I absolutely love it and I don’t want to get rid of it. Another question; about how long does the job take?

[@jairusstrunk94]

@@staciafrye9744 He does most of the work in this 45 minute video. SO I'd say he can probably do it in an hours. Maybe an hour and a half.

[@chrisbash6860]

I have looked and looked for that seal around the pump. What do they call it? I cant find it anywhere!

[@billywilliams7543]

My escape is skipping 2nd and 4th gear and revs up to 3500 and 4000 rpm. Transmission shop says I need a rebuild for 2800 dollars. Then I stumbled across this video. Are they just tryna get more money?

[@HooptiesGarage]

If it's skipping over gears thats more than a band issue. If it goes into second but it takes it to about 4k then it could be just the band. It really depends on exactly what it's doing.

[@averagesheetmetalworker]

Thank you for the vid shows alot, just curious though how do you know if its the band or the transmission shift selenoid pack?.... 2008 escape and wont shift till 4000rpm like you said... Worked fine and then just wouldnt shift till 4000rpm after a stop sign... Trany shop in town quoted me $3100 to rebuild

[@HooptiesGarage]

Do you have similar codes as the one in the video? It's usually the band if it has those codes symptoms

[@averagesheetmetalworker]

@@HooptiesGarage i dont have a code reader for one of these just kind of assuming its the same thing.. Doesnt feel like it slips in any way just wont shift from 1st to second till 4000rpms... Havent had it outta town to see if it goes into 4th

[@averagesheetmetalworker]

@@HooptiesGarage exact same dash light comes on though as soon as it does shift

[@sungyi8664]

2002 MAZDA Tribute, When put the car into drive, the automatic transmission doesn't shift by itself. Just revving the rpm. To bypass that, I manually shifted the column shifter. From gears, 1, 2, and then when I get to about 45 mph I can shift to drive will be band issue? Thanks for Great video!!

[@HooptiesGarage]

So it never shifts by itself even if you take it to about 4k rpm? If it never shifts on it's own I don't think that would be a band issue

[@nogielazo1703]

Hey Brian I took the pump out and the pump rod was twisted and it snapped on the pump side. What do you think happened? Before I put everything back together I just want your input on the matter. Thanks in advance...

[@HooptiesGarage]

More than likely it didn't seat properly, you have to really bolt that pump down slowly and alternate the sequence quite a bit to avoid that ,sometimes you can actually hear that rod seat itself. Make sure it's seated good in the torque converter and when you are tightening the pump back in go slow and alternate the bolts and try to bolt it down as evenly as possible.

[@angiemarshall1088]

We did and engine swap on 2008 escape ..same engine ..but now it's having shifting issues and the speedometer actually reads in park ..also adds mileage on the odometer in park just from accelerating..any ideas ? Yellow wrench light comes on and code po731

[@HooptiesGarage]

If trans worked good before engine swap? If it did I would suspect possible something was left unplugged after engine swap possible or maybe wires got pulled etc

[@oldhippie133]

I have a 09 escape and when it's cold out my transmission takes forever to shift from gear to gear. But once its warm it works fine.

[@HooptiesGarage]

That might be a weak pump or low fluid

[@oldhippie133]

@HooptiesGarage fluid is full and doesn't smell burnt and color is good.

[@fixfalcon2628]

My 2008 escape won't shift into OD...could mine have the same issue?

[@HooptiesGarage]

No that's going to be something else

[@anthonyromo5954]

Having the same issue with the wife’s car but I don’t think it’s shifting that late on every gear. If it’s just one gear shifting late could it be a solenoid problem?

[@HooptiesGarage]

Is the check engine light on?

[@anthonyromo5954]

@@HooptiesGarage yes I haven’t seen any transmission codes. Wondering if purge valve may be culprit.

[@marlenenriquez9118]

@@HooptiesGarage does the check engine light have to be on?

[@HooptiesGarage]

@@marlenenriquez9118 if it just started happening it may not be on yet but eventually you should get the incorrect gear ratio code

[@tmart9084]

can't I just use a hand grinder and cut that part high enough so I can access the bolts and remove the pump instead of taking the axle out

[@HooptiesGarage]

Thats up to you 🤷🤷

[@pltmann]

I have a 1995 Ford Contour. I have a little harder shift from 1st to 2nd, but it shifts right away, but then the next shift will not shift , just keeps reving. If I pull it down in second it seems to work right. When I put it in drive it starts hunting and reving. Will not pull in drive. Revving and slipping. Does this sound like this band could be the problem?

[@HooptiesGarage]

I don't believe those are the same transmissions I don't remember what the contour has

[@pltmann]

Cd4E. I already replaced it once

[@pltmann]

@@HooptiesGarage it has a CD4E. I already replaced it once.

[@wadefrobose4935]

Hey great video thanks for doing it I feel that I have this exact same issue and after watching your video I went and ordered the band and seal gasket but I don’t have any transmission codes after checking it with auto zone obd scan tool so just wanted your opinion before I take it all apart is there anything else it could be other than the band being broken? Truck runs great tranny seems really good too other than going up any incline where it won’t shift until around 4K rpm’s please let me know if there is any other way of knowing it’s the band or not before I start this big job thanks

[@HooptiesGarage]

Is it only when you go uphill or does it do it all the time? If the band is broke it will delay shifting even going downhill or flat.

[@skiama822]

My transmission goes on reverse gear only and when put drive the car doesn't move or it delays before moving just for a short distance then stops.What could be the issue with my transmission

[@HooptiesGarage]

Sounds like it probably needs a rebuild unfortunately

[@jasso2011]

Awesome video! I have a 2008 Ford Escape XLT 4 cylinder 150k. I am not a mechanic just brave. Not sure if I have the same problem as you but my transmission delays and i can hear a thump sound and a slight pulled when it shifts up and down. it shifts on regular normal rpm intervals. Some people say it needs an oil replacement but the oil is fine. You think my problem is something else or do i have the same situation as you?

[@HooptiesGarage]

If it's not waiting until about 4k rpm to shift then it's probably not a band issue.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

No part called a 'band' shows up for a 2009. Not that I have this trouble, but sometimes it's worth getting parts JIC.

[@phillipward5830]

2011 awd escape 2 to 3 gear shift gains about 500 rpms when shifting. Only dose this going from 2-3. If you let off it shifts hard when not under a load. No check engine lights on any ideal ?

[@HooptiesGarage]

Sounds like slipping clutches possibly def not a band issue.

[@sixshinez9290]

I have to do this. I'm thinking because the vehicle is worth so little now,.... does anyone see any harm of just cutting a piece of that wheel well out to allow room to pull pump? Then you should only have to remove wheel. Thoughts? It's only worth 2k.

[@HooptiesGarage]

Probably wouldn't cause that much harm but you do have to pull it down quite a bit to get pump out and honestly if you have power tools it doesn't take long to drop the mounts etc

[@michaelsobola5685]

I need help, I use à Ford escape 09 4wd.. The transmission is such that the car Jerks when on reverse and drive and it moves sluggishly and couldn't move up.. I reverse issue was sorted out as error P0755 but the car still Jerks as it shifts from gear to gear while driving

[@HooptiesGarage]

755 is a shift solenoid issue it would be hard to diagnose without seeing it but unfortunately it sounds like transmission might need a rebuild