2011-2016 3.6l dodge grand caravan, chrysler town and country hidden starter replacement

in this episode of Gasdiesel Garage we replace the starter on a Chrysler town and country minivan and the same process for replacement of all 3.6l engines Chrysler and dodge made.
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[@TheTartarianMeltdown]

Just changed the starter in our 2012 T&C with 150k miles on it. It started to crank slowly, I checked the battery and it had lots of power, so I assumed it was the starter, which we already had laying around, brand new, cause we knew it would break eventually. Thanks for the video, and thanks for showing how to do it laying on the ground under the car, cause we all don't have lifts and stuff. But put Jack stands under your car when you're under there, it saves lives. Cheers

[@Gasdieselgarage]

You’re absolutely right…this was one of my 1st videos and really didn’t think of the impact of people seeing me used just the jack and I totally stand corrected. Ty for your comment 💪

[@TheTartarianMeltdown]

@@Gasdieselgarage That's good, don't want anyone to get crushed under the car. Our 2012 T&C cranks up in a split second now, it's awesome. Good to get these more time consuming jobs done before the winter 🥶

[@jchalo2fan]

@GasDiesel Garage You have saved me. I got jacked around by 4 different mechanics trying to tell me this is a full day job and that they damn near need to pull the motor out. After your video, I did this in my back yard with 0 mechanic experience or knowledge in a few hours. Thank you so much. You helped this single dad of 3 save a bunch of money and got my dad van back on the road.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Jesse Harris awesome bro, I’m glad I can help. I’m a mechanic with 22 years of experience and still turning wrenches daily. If you got any questions don’t hesitate to ask

[@jchalo2fan]

@@Gasdieselgarage my van is 2015 town and country. I got to the starter and got the bolts out but the exhaust is soo close i can not get the starter out.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Jesse Harris well you can do two things....you can raise the engine very slightly with a jack...no need to take the engine mounts loose just jack up a little bit on the engine....or just take the 3 bolts out of the front exhaust manifold. It is a pain in the but. It can be done

[@Calaxt01]

I had this exact same problem earlier today. I was going to take off the front exhaust manifold but my father in law kept saying how I shouldn't need to blah blah blah. Anyway, I'll be doing that tomorrow. Thanks to both of you for this.

[@whitereaper9761]

@@Gasdieselgarage is there a positive wire?

[@kyleNL]

Just a tip for everyone, I noticed you used an impact wrench on the factory jack. I did this very often with the same vehicle till one day the jack just dropped with the wheel off and my leg very close to being under the rotor. The threads were striped, and i blamed the jack being defective. Then years later i did the same thing with the jack on my 2013 charger. And noticed the threads were damaged from doing it. It seems the force of rushing the jack through it strips the threads. I don't do that any more. Lol

[@tbrown1352002]

Dude likes to live dangerously with that scissor jack and no jack stands...lol

[@mattmgarza]

I like your method of pulling it out and then disconnecting the wires. That makes it easier to get to the wires I bet. You need jack stands! Great video.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Matt Garza you’re absolutely right about the jack stands

[@antwoinemcclellanjr505]

@@Gasdieselgarage eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@bernardrobinson1972]

Thanks for the video. It worked for me!!! My starter went bad, too soon. Lifetime warranty, so....Now I get to do it again.

[@peggysmith8467]

Great video for the occasional moonlighter thanks

[@skandikatla]

Thanks. Very well made. Followed exactly the way you showed. I still cannot figure out how to take it out. Removed 2 15mm bolts of starter attaching to engine. Starter is loose, not able to take it out, cut the harness anchor zip tie catalytic is obstructing. you just slipped out can you please tell me what I am missing. thanks

[@tyleryork7785]

Thank you. Replaced mine today with minimal issues due to your video. Much appreciated.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Absolutely my friend. I’m happy it helped you!

[@randallcindyloucks833]

Thanks for this excellent video. I had no idea where to start, but your step-by-step explanations were spot-on. I was able to change out the starter by myself, and it saved me a bunch of money. Thanks again!

[@sgalvo]

Great job my friend a mechanic charged me $300.00 and he swore he had to tare the engine apart to get to the starter, what a lie he told. Thanks I will look at some videos before going to the mechanic.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Sloan Pilgrim ty so much my friend....this is the main reason I do these videos. ❤️

[@electronixTech]

I hope no one else does it this way. I wouldn't rely on a scissor jack to hold up the van while you're working under it. Always use jack stands or at least something to hold the car if it falls down. You don't want to have the crushing weight of the car falling down on you. Thanks for showing us how to access the starter. I have a 2014 Grand Caravan and am having no start problems so I'm not looking forward to doing this.

[@sael52]

it looks like suicide attempt.

[@kerrmoney]

If he has been a tech ½ as long as I have, he did that hoping it would fall on him

[@7thfrettin163]

When you went to crank your van, did it make a clunk noise when you turned key?

[@electronixTech]

@@7thfrettin163 No. It wouldn't even crank. I tried putting a power pack on the battery and it started one time. Then after replacing the battery with a new one which I thought was the problem, it never started again.

[@ballplayer4301]

@@kerrmoneylol what’s crazier he didn’t use a jack with a 2x4 to support the weight of the engine

[@hughjanus5680]

Mine is starting to act up in my 2011. This video will be helpful in the near future.

[@randymorel7996]

This guy is a dare devil getting under a car with that Jack 😂😂😂😂

[@joenic4303]

Love the video. Big thanks brother. Get some jack stands! I know a guy who was sitting upright under a truck when the jack slid out and he was killed. I used to only use a jack when I was younger. Either way, appreciate the video because it saves us a ton of time.

[@shamzpachino]

Thanks for the upload. I just got my Chrysler running again. Now I have to deal with the oil leak 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yes unfortunately I had to that oil pan too on that van too…so it’s no surprising, sorry bud

[@jameshoward9969]

Engine oil cooler

[@pablopicaso9735]

I'll be doing this today. Thanks for the video it's going to save me a couple hundred bucks.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Absolutely.

[@chrismotteler561]

Wanted to say thank you for this video. I had the same exact issue with our starter on our 2014 T & C. Your video really made me feel comfortable enough to do the job myself. Thanks again!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Absolutely my friend. I couldn’t believe how these vehicle engineers design stuff these days.

[@drumbyte]

You should use a 2nd support besides the jack

[@jamesdriscoll4895]

Dude lives dangerously😮

[@neogreen4457]

Great video with all the details and good quality, but keep those eyes safe

[@Gasdieselgarage]

NEO GREEN awe Ty my friend and yes you’re absolutely right about eye protection.

[@SeaBass215AM]

You're a beast. Thanks brother. I'm using four jack stands like the nervous nelly I am. Haha.

[@motokev2727]

Dam, too much work compared to my GMC truck. Where are the safety Jacks, you brave

[@tj7197]

Thanks bud. Got my starter done using your video !

[@LuisGarcia-ei1to]

Back and running. You a beast.

[@grdstudios]

Throw a wheel and tire or anything under it to stop it when it falls off the jacks.

[@kamalabbady6778]

great video, and for your safety please use jack stands

[@Gasdieselgarage]

You’re absolutely right and I stand corrected...ty my friend!

[@Superior2020]

And chock the wheels on the ground

[@99SVTBolt]

This video gave me anxiety from the lack of jack stands.

[@jamesdawson5509]

Also disconnect negative battery terminal first, so there is no risk of shorting to ground when disconnecting the positive terminal.

[@ferngalindez6438]

You made that look easy brother. Thanks for the post. Definitely subscribed

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Ty you for the feedback my friend. I really appreciate you!

[@kamalabbady6778]

Hi men I tried to so the same thing on 2013 dodge caravan,but the problem I have is the starter wont come off because the catalytic converte in the way any idea how to take it off ??

[@ynsfarms7665]

great video. you helped out alot. fyi 2011 grandcaravan starter bolts are 15mm if anybody has the same as ours

[@cheyennecurtiss1307]

Great video ! WORKED !!!!! back on the road !!!!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Awesome my friend

[@tolishaws]

The edit right before the pullout how did n you get to that point?

[@cayetanocayendo7532]

God job.i have a question,my mini van is broken,it is dripping coolant from the catalistic when i try to start it.and never starts anuway What do you think that is happening.,????thanks.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Is the dripping/leak coming from the back of the engine or front?

[@jenniferlabrie129]

Nice video but just a question. If the person doing this for instance attempts to take out the bolt on the motor mount instead of just rotating it around and the bolt snaps off, what can be done. Said person tried to drill it out but it’s not working. They want to just tie it with rope…….

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Well unfortunately that is a common problem with those bolts snapping off…trust me I’ve done it too. The person really needs to drill out the broken bolt completely or could weld a stud on to the frame to secure that cross bar. Rope…uh …sounds unsafe ☹️

[@davidearlkelley8484]

Any way to check starter before taking it out?

[@erlinavicente7411]

My van starts then stops after 3 seconds. 😢changed sparks, coil, and alternator. I also get random misfires but just got new rockers and lifters and a new chain. Any suggestions

[@Gasdieselgarage]

I’d check to make sure your fuel pump is working and fuel injectors. Injectors if malfunctioning can throw a misfire code…..if you have a fuel filter check that too to make sure that’s not clogged…

[@erlinavicente7411]

@@Gasdieselgarage oh yes, phasers were cleaned and oil valve. New filters and even did a oil flush. Any thoughts if it could be my ECM computer? I’ll open it up again to check the fuel injectors. Just feels like it 👀 look so many places. Engine sounds nice when running. Scratching my head, as I thought it was a quick fix.

[@randyb9337]

The only step you bypassed and should have thought of before re-installing the cross brace was to connect the battery and test the starter before tightening the brace bolts. This way if something isn't connected correctly or at all, you can slide back under and verify any issues. Maybe think about using some jack stands to save your life if that scissor jack were to fail and drop the vehicle on you, just saying.🤔🤔👍👍

[@shephardboyempire9406]

thank i watch a few video your the best make it so ease thank to you family

[@jessiejames3785]

I am trying to put a starter on a 2013 dodge grand caravan but the guy mixed all the bolts. Are they typically longer 15 mm

[@zook9265]

I have a 2009 Grand Caravan with the 4.0 liter engine. Same procedure? Thanks! Great video by the way!!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

There shouldn’t be much difference my friend. Hit me back if you have trouble.

[@warithmezher8876]

I Have jeep cherokee yasterday i replaced the starter but i opened the Exhuste

[@briantolley854]

So what exactly was you're car doing before you changed it? Were you getting a no start but it sounded like a relay trying engage? Mines doing that and the battery is fine, fuel pump engages, and relays are fine.

[@Rebmetpes4]

I like the music you use in these videos!

[@williammccaslin8527]

My wife has this in a 2015, so far, so good, but I wanted to know what went into it, so I subbed your channel an watched the vid, thx

[@Gasdieselgarage]

The first starter I ever had to do on these dodge caravans it had me a bit puzzled lol

[@davidsujuy9905]

Amigo buen dia. UN crisler 200. 2013. Es igual El proceso??? Saludos

[@FrizzyArt8]

So I replaced my starter today and it ran like a charm for 2-3 local trips and now my car won't start again. What would cause it to fail so quickly? What other items should i check next?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

What year is your van?

[@FrizzyArt8]

@@Gasdieselgarage 2015 we removed it to find that the clipped wire had shorted out. it was melted. took the starter back to AutoZone and got another one from OReillys. its in and running. will see what happens tomorrow. I'm too cold to go out and fuss with it anymore. Windchill was 6 today. (it was 10 on Saturday) I am proud of myself though. I've never done a car repair of any kind before. 👍

[@karlkascha1261]

Look at the battery cable terminals. Most are crimped on these days and corrode between the wire and terminal. Also check the ground wire where it goes to the engine block for the same type of corrosion. Here in Central New York state, where road salt is used liberally in the winter, it is usually the cabling.

[@pablitosalvador1449]

Excellent !! Thanks, so helpfull.

[@robinwykoff3952]

Any idea if this is the same process with a 2016 Dodge Grand Caravan?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yes it is the same my friend

[@courtneyclements4560]

Did you have any trouble actually taking the starter out i have a vw routan 2011 and it won't come out bc there's not enough room 😒

[@Gasdieselgarage]

yes it is a pain in the but to remove but it will come out you just have to turn it a certain way

[@dr.martezgrice3960]

Bro them jams you playin to are 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ralphsanchico2452]

There’s no vids for a 2018 for this job. Is it safe to say the schematics are the same or very close to it?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yes more than likely.. I doubt they change the motor configuration for the 2018

[@ralphsanchico2452]

@@Gasdieselgarage That's too bad! I was hoping it was sticking out like a sore thumb! (LOL)

[@hickysmusicpflueger1917]

Hey gas diesel I have a 2015 dodge caravan Also I have power but when I go to fire the van it just clicks I took the starter off and had it checked out and it passed im Confused bout it I have the starter in but caint get the battery cable back on with it installed whould it be easyer to take the starter out and hook the battery cable on then install it back on the van ?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yes unfortunately that would be the easiest way considering the small space you got to work with. Ty for the comment

[@hickysmusicpflueger1917]

@@Gasdieselgarage np anytime so what eless chould it be

[@Gasdieselgarage]

@@hickysmusicpflueger1917 okay just to recap, you said the starter just clicks when you try to start the van?.....do the dashboard lights flicker?

[@hickysmusicpflueger1917]

@@Gasdieselgarage no

[@scorpionsmissouri5773]

How long did this take in real time

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Hour …that’s the truth

[@troymcfarland9356]

I just did this job and you do not have to take the cradle out. You can remove the motor mount and also the heat shield from the resonator in front to access the starter. Out and in under 3 hours.

[@jaywholoveseveryone1721]

what do you mean by 'cradle'? are you talking about the 'crossbar' thing that he removed in the beginning? please explain. thanks.

[@troymcfarland9356]

@@jaywholoveseveryone1721 that's what the correct name is for the part because it "Cradles" the engine. Look it up on Google.

[@jaywholoveseveryone1721]

@@troymcfarland9356 that's what he called it so I was just repeating what he said. I guess my question, to you, is so I don't have to remove that 'cradle' in order to remove the motor mount and then the starter? But, the motor mount DEFINITELY has to come out, right? I'm asking because I'm going to have to do this job and you said it would be 'quicker' your way. thanks again.

[@troymcfarland9356]

@@jaywholoveseveryone1721 right. The cradle does not have to be taken out just unbolt the mount from the engine and the cradle. The heat shield around the catalytic converter comes off in 2 pieces. It will also have to be removed so you don't have to fight to get the starter out.

[@jaywholoveseveryone1721]

@@troymcfarland9356 thanks again

[@John-yb6ni]

Atleast keep your self away from harm by putting a jack stand or a cinder block in a secure position to support the vehicle incase of scissor jack failure. So you don't kill yourself or the people watching your video.

[@clayrichard8471]

There are these things called jack stands and and fast forward,

[@hudielflores191]

Hi is the starter still working

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yes as far as I know

[@myaccount13579]

That is scary unsafe! Use some redundant blocks or stands under that car. Don't trust a jack, especially when you have your head under there and are wrenching things.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yes you’re absolutely right bud. I did correct myself…

[@roberttuttle5405]

Especially a cheap scissor jack!

[@cookshotrods7511]

Good video but wow man your daring not using jack stands

[@johnlowry6197]

great job!.....cant wait for the next one

[@Gasdieselgarage]

John Lowry ty my friend

[@zachblubaugh471]

Jack stands

[@infernalchaos1066]

Thank you for this video. Saved me a lot of grief. However, the music is much louder than your voice so I kept getting blasted every time it started playing again. Really, the only videos that need music are music videos. It doesn't add anything.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

You’re absolutely right…I really didn’t know how to edit back then.

[@infernalchaos1066]

@@Gasdieselgarage That's okay- I don't know how to fix cars lol. Thanks again for this video!

[@stephaniecarry8614]

dope video my dude

[@louisramirez3128]

Hey GasDiesel, Your's was the Easiest Way - PeaceOfCake - - - Thanx.

[@1877DISH313dotCOM]

Dude! I cringed every second watching this video. A floor jack and a scissor jack and NO jack stands?? Not even a wheel chock! You've never seen a vehicle roll off a scissor jack? Great video and thanks for the info, but please be safer out there!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

You’re absolutely my friend I stand corrected

[@kobesmith6270]

awesome video

[@louisramirez3128]

I love those THICK BEATs - - -

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Louis Ramirez ty my friend

[@stephanieflowers4297]

Do you know if an engine from a 2015 Chrysler Town and country will work in a 2011 dodge grand caravan

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Stephanie Flowers yes it should if it’s a 3.6l engine. Chrysler/ dodge used these engines pretty much in every car of this time spand 2011-2016

[@Alex-ti3uf]

Safety! JACK STAND!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

you are absolutely right my friend and i wish i could have gone back in time and be more mindful of others watching this video doing something dangerous. again i appologize

[@jackcity813]

Would this work for a 2011 Chrysler 200 3.6

[@lucky78862]

Thank you buddy

[@alonzobattle4971]

ty so much for helping me do this in my driveway!

[@1_MrFantasy]

This video amazing man! Thanks!

[@tombinks7672]

two thumbs up

[@bigone3582]

And you just earned a follower.

[@fernandopowers5765]

thank for your help sir.

[@ronriley45]

I got to the starter but barely had any space to pull it out. Feels like I need one more inch or 2. Any tips? 2014 grand caravan

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Yeah it’s a pain in the but trying to snake it out from the van....I lifted the engine ever so slightly with another jack , that should give you a little room.

[@ronriley45]

@@Gasdieselgarage I'd forgotten to take the nut off the back of the starter first. That gave me the slack I needed to get it out. It still was a pain in the ass to get it back on, but I did it. Thanks!

[@skandikatla]

i spent over 2 hrs still no luck. any hints

[@ronriley45]

@@skandikatla I recently had to do this same job again. The same tips apply, but I did lift the engine a bit. I didn't have another jack, but I had a piece of wood and a long clamp that I reversed to push up on the engine a little bit. The only tool that worked for me was a cheap double-sided ratcheting wrench from harbor freight. none of my other tools seemed to have the angle I needed. I was able to get to it sort of from behind if that makes any sense.

[@ronriley45]

SAE Offset Ratcheting Wrench Set, 4 Piece . I guess it was the offset that made the difference for me if the offset is the hump.

[@luislora6587]

How much this job cost?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

The starter is not very expensive …less that 100 bucks…if you do it yourself which you can …you’re basically paying just for the part.

[@7thfrettin163]

So, my wifes t/c 2014 van has been low on tranny fluid cause the gasket to tranny is leaking. Started shifting rough and broke down, when she went to start it "note this has been going on for a week." Car shutting off and restarting. Now it won't turn over i just get a clunk noise and the batteries drained, replaced battery and still getting a clunk when i turn key. Is that the starter that she fried by me not taking care of the leak or is this something other than starter? I know they have sensors on everything nowadays. If the trannies to low will the van just not start? Thanks for the quik response if you can cause it's got my brain just dumbfounded. Im leaning towards starer cause she said it's been hard to crank while this was going on, i figured she kept holding key over and with the car in limp mode it wouldn't start right away or something and fried the starter.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

Well let’s first see if the engine turns freely…if you’re able turn the crank pulley bolt with a socket and ratchet. If you’re good there….try starting it again…the reason I’m having you do this is the make sure it’s not a bad spot in the flywheel. Message me back on your results, we will go from there my friend

[@7thfrettin163]

@@Gasdieselgarage Im at a friendsgiving party right now, will be going to work on it afterward. I will def do that to make sure motors not locked up right?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

@@7thfrettin163 yes sir exactly but also we are checking to back sure your flywheel is not missing teeth and to see if your starter is kicking out or or not.

[@7thfrettin163]

@@Gasdieselgarage ended up being the starter my friend. That sucked, and my right hand feels the wrath of that tiny space for that starter. Also trannies leaking and was in limp mode i believe, and would shut off and my wife kept starting the car over and over when it would die out. Replaced the pans gasket that looked the cleanests under car to no avail for tranny. Leaks still there, somewhere behind the pan , the cars fan is pulling fluid from back of motor and sending it on the motor. Spent like 60 bucks on some atf +4 so i gotta figure out that leak fast. Can't afford to keep dropping that expensive tranny fluid in the car. 5 quarts. At 12 bucks a quart.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

@@7thfrettin163 i feel your pain bud seriously…especially with the tranny leaking because I had drop the tranny on my moms van and replace a stupid 10 dollar seal.

[@italianostalian0]

NEVER EVER NEVER WORK UNDER A VEHICLE WITH ONLY SIZZOR JACKS. CHANCES ARE GREATER YOU WILL DIE DOING THIS KIND OF THING, REGARDLESS OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE. AT LEAST HAVE A HEAVY FLOOR JACK IF YOU DONT HAVE JACK STANDS. THE WHOLE CAR IS BALANCING ON SOMETHING DESIGNED TO TAKE A WHEEL OFF AND PUT ANOTHER ON WITHOUT YOU UNDER IT. JACK STANDS ARE CHEAP ENOUGH TO BUY. DONT ATTEMPT ANY UNDER VEHICLE WORK WITHOUT THEM. YOU AND THIS GUY WILL BE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE IF YOU DO AS HE HAS WITH SUPPORT FOR THE VEHICLE:)

[@davidtaylor9508]

First thing to do.... Buy Jack stands!

[@chucklenhardt7902]

People, never ever lay under a vehicle without it being supported on jack stands!!!!!

[@Ali-cj6wp]

thanks buddy

[@aleeyahartman1086]

omg ty for this video

[@foxtelecom4281]

Thank you so much

[@philonwiler9636]

Great video, made it easy!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

phil onwiler ty my friend

[@williammartin8636]

Working unsafe, that may kill you. No safety stands. Safety 101. Nice music thou. Lube all bolts so it's easier next time around.

[@edgu71eg]

My cousin who was an accomplished diesel mechaninc slacked off and used ramp jacks without blocking the rear tires and now he is dead please everyone use safety and don't become comfortable without ensuring you are completlely safe.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

You’re absolutely right and I stand corrected. Always use the proper safety when working under a car or truck. My apologies everyone

[@mikaylafleck628]

love it

[@jeffcooper8916]

awesome

[@mikenapper3725]

Just take out the motor mount don't have to drop the cross brace

[@willietaul9885]

Chrysler woooo!

[@richieB2426]

1. Unsafe method to keep the vehicle up in the air. 2. No support under the oil pan after removing motor mount. 3. You didn't need to remove support plate.

[@davidwinfrey3307]

Wow!!!sure would use Jack stands would not trust those flimsy jacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Gasdieselgarage]

David Winfrey you’re absolutely right my friend.

[@scottgiller7504]

Not to be rude but get a real jack and jack stand so you don't crush yourself

[@Gasdieselgarage]

No you’re absolutely right

[@RD-kz4wr]

This does NOT work. The black/red cable is too small to allow you to wiggle this unit out. Need to find a better video that shows how you can disconnect this cable cause I can't figure it out.

[@brucebonetto3223]

Working under a vehicle that is only on jacks and not on jack stands is very unsafe.

[@hectorquinones4824]

My god were are ur jack stand.

[@Gasdieselgarage]

You’re absolutely right and I stand corrected. Never get under any vehicle without jack stands.

[@jillburgess5550]

Why would car makers design something like that?

[@Gasdieselgarage]

It’s like this on newer cars unfortunately and they want you to go back to the dealer to spend money

[@mylivinghell9595]

Yeah not sure I'd be climbing under a car held up by a scissor jack

[@plmkdt528]

I'll not craw under neath w/no jack stand man. I don't trust that factory jack.