2012 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - First Test

[@ZR1Terror]

This is the perfect car, clean V8 (no supercharger), front engine, rear wheel drive, manual transmission, low and wide!!! Just perfection!!

[@enderboy6491]

🙏⛄🌍Couldn't have said it better 😭 Merry Christmas ⛄☮️🗓️🎄🌎

[@spraynpray]

There's no way 60mph is at the top of 2nd gear. It's probably at the top of 1st gear. Second gear is closer to 90.

[@brianwilkins5673]

spraynpray 1st-60 2nd-90 3rd-120 4th-155 5th-175 6th-

[@faxxzc]

@@brianwilkins5673 5th goes to 198 i think it was

[@brianwilkins5673]

@@faxxzc Yes, I wrote that without actually doing it. I hit 195 in 5th about a year ago.

[@corvetteZ3r]

@@brianwilkins56735th would go to like 219 if you had the power, and stock rev limiter that is

[@madpistol]

As much as I love the ZR1, the engine on that car is absolutely brutal unless you know what you're doing. The Z06 with ONLY 505hp is much more kind, yet it is still an awesome power train. Perfect engine, perfect tires, perfect brakes, perfect suspension... all of this adds up to one of the best Corvettes ever. Italy and Germany have been put on notice. Well done Chevy.

[@MovieMuscle]

Sixty mph is at the top of 1st gear not second in this car. Lots of drivers do it without bumping the limiter. Which is set at 7120 RPM from GM. You just need to be on point with your shifts.

[@Gallagur-xz6fr]

60mph at the top of 2nd??? I always thought the Z06 could hit 60 in 1st gear.

[@Alan_GTO]

Gallagur it is the narrator is misinformed, 0-60 first gear and it’s a 3LZ not a 3ZR

[@devinespinoza5529]

That is the C6 ZR1 it can hit 80 mph in first gear

[@azimy9388]

Devin Espinoza no ZR1 does 70 first

[@camonly849]

No it's 60 as well lol

[@rutter1ify]

Love the look and sound of Corvette's, from England!

[@Hanson586]

What I've always loved about corvettes is the bang for the buck. No one can debate that...ever. My other car would be a viper simply because it's American. The only thing is their just so damn expensive. The corvette is a dream car for the avg man. If you work hard enough and that work pays off the avg joe can buy an electric fun of a toy. I would love one in my garage. One day , hopefully.

[@KitariFox]

+Hanson Fam I'd love to have one some day as well, but I just can't afford one at the moment. I've had an rx-8, 350z, and even a g35, but I don't think they even come close to the performance the vette has. The closest I've gotten to that corvette performance would probably be my old ninja 650r. However, I hit the books and have diplomas for industrial maintenance tech, welding, and electronics, so hopefully between those three things, I might just be able to find a nice paying job and work my way up and finally get one before I retire. I'm also a disabled army veteran so that helps a little as well. I really think they should start a program called vettes for vets. lol

[@friendlyuser1]

This car is insane! People think its all fun & games but NO BODY can handle a beast like that!!!

[@themechanic345]

Screw the supercharged ZR1, I want a Z06

[@nexorabolis]

Chevrolet, if you ever read these comments, please, PLEASE, find the time to deliver one of these gorgeous cars to my front doorstep. Thanks in advance :)

[@Dukefazon]

When I win on the lottery I gotta buy a Corvette.

[@Winkel93]

You mean if lol? Lotteries is created to fool you

[@Dukefazon]

Nope, the 'when' is deliberate :)

[@03056932]

@@Winkel93 you are saying nobody wins or?

[@Winkel93]

@@03056932 0.001% of players maybe x)

[@broidk7070]

So u bought one yet?

[@4632v]

Undeniably a supercar that deserves nothing but top rated respect. Light, tough, durable, responsive and flat out super fast...all that and much potential to go much faster. Great performance bargain. Great review of american iron that exudes global dominance in automotive performance!

[@camirocz]

Who are these people ,I had a z06 for 4 years and it does 0 to 62 mph in first gear.Where do they get top of second ,shifting into third from?

[@dannyblaylock9942]

yup, they got that wrong, i own an 09 Z06, First goes to 60, second 90, 3rd, 120, 4th 140.. and... i dont know the others, i havnt topped out 5th yet.:)

[@Powerwhee-S63TU4]

could be that the rear gears are different?

[@rmm2424]

Danny Blaylock 4th 160

[@6choward]

Shift up light in 4th 154-156 for me

[@dannyblaylock9942]

yup

[@JD-kr6qm]

Some is due to restrictive air flow, headers, and exhaust. If you upgraded those and got a performance tune you would most likely gain another 40-60rwhp. But yeah I still see your point.

[@mia1shooter]

The 2012 Z06 Centennial Edition is superior to the 991 GT3 in every way!

[@FraAngelico729]

@twztd28 They could definitely build one robust enough, and you're probably right about the added heft, but the system's actual weight would depend on how it's engineered- i.e., materials, dimensions, mechanicals, etc. My first thought was the Borg-Warner in the GT-R, but considering how that car was designed specifically to be heavy, then you're probably talking about a beefy thing that would likely throw the Vette's balance off.

[@honda12345678]

@TheRandomSanta It depends what your using the nitrous for. Nitrous is a great way to make up some performance for cheap compared to forced induction. On the other hand If you plan on running nitrous alot, or large shots of it at one time then you will need some aftermarket fuel managment so your motor doesn't burn lean. Your stock o2 sensor will not be able to keep up with spray. Talk to a local performance shop in your town or someone who knows about motors.

[@cozzey05]

@Sigrafix the LS7 has a pretty conservative cam and tune...exhaust, cam, tune will put you at ZR1 level all day with less weight and small price.

[@FraAngelico729]

@KoukiMS6 Actually, the GT-R's MSRP starts at $89k ($95k for the Black). The top of the line 3LZ package for the Z06 starts at $81k. Both cars go up from there. As far as handling, we routinely see the Z06 posting well over 1g (Jeremy Clarkson got a 1.2 on TG and the Norschliefe run saw many sustained 1.3's). Don't know what trim level they using, but it's speculation to make a judgment call on what buyers will get for their money. And until you or I actually get the keys, we can only dream! :D

[@mtooshort20]

@eeeen321 this is a fully optioned out z06. the base price is $76k, but the carbon brakes, carbon fiber roof, entertainment package, leather package,Z07 package, magnetic ride control, and R-compound tires all add up....fast!

[@seapeddler]

Ford Mustang and Chevy Corvette brakes have been recalled, as they have failed to protect the occupant in the event of concrete engagement at 200 mph. However, the 2012 Corvette and 2014 Mustang have been retrofitted with U-boat conning towers. But this also requires HO alternators on both missiles to engage the electrogravitic drive. As speeds approach 893.5 MPH the cars are vibrating at a frequency that enables them to penetrate solid granite mountain ranges.

[@vtecboi18]

@whitegxp313 the launch control issue has been fixed and u don't need to ship the whole thing back to japan its 2012 now of course parts could take a while but i'm not sure

[@cagriffin101]

@KoukiMS6 I'm looking at Nissan's website now and I clearly see $89,950. However, through dealerships you can find them at around 86 grand. Chevy's website does say $74,375. But in dealerships they can run as low as $67,250. I'd be happy to send you the links. From the factory, in base form, they are actually pretty equal in performance (mainly due to the weight difference). I've never really liked the looks of 911's.

[@psmTARDCORE]

@HPSLUT500 they don't necessarily help acceleration, its the grip around corners and braking distances, not to mention heat resistance during prolonged use

[@Bruhwhatthehellbruh]

@devilmagic that's with the centennial edition package with the heated seats. it's under 100 grand for it stock with the tires

[@Atheismrulez]

@MrCodPiece The base Z06 still comes with the Goodyear Eagle F1s, though. These tires can only be had with a pricy option package.

[@CTSVKINGWAGON]

@MeSSwithME3 No, the new lap time run on Pilot Sport Cup tires is 7:19 for the ZR1, 7:22 for the Z06. IMO the Z06 should be increased to 550 hp with better gearing so the ZR1 can be improved too.

[@camirocz]

@TheRandomSanta a dyno tune is like a tune up ,it optimizes your air fuel mixture and calibrates your timing in order to give you maximum performance.add a set of gears and full exhaust before you ruin your engine with nitrous.4.10 gears will make your car wake up big time.

[@D_Morgan]

@xabipp YES. 11.9 is a piss poor time for a ZO6. Either weather conditions were horrible or someone wasn't a very good driver.

[@kageryu311]

@Truthalive7 I don't think you are fully understanding me here. The ZR1 has a superior brake and suspension package over the Z06. The Z06 with just the LS9 and the base Z06 suspension is not a ZR1. Do you see what I mean?

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 The point is that if they had any radical new technology it would be on the Vette's already, especially if they started in 07. The car is being released 3rd quarter of 2012 and It will most likely be at the IDAS (which I will be attending with a hopeful heart). However, I don't think you understand the mechanics that go into shaving 7 whole seconds off a lap time. Especially at the ring. I think Mero is actually capable of going faster then 7:19.63 if he 3 or more runs with the ZR1.

[@camirocz]

@flauretta some guys are claiming 10.85 all stock .I own one and ran 11.7 right off the highway all stock.mine is a 2007 pretty sure a few more runs and i d get it down to 11.5 but those 11.0 s and 10.8... are hard to believe .Especially when those claims are on eagle run flat tires ,the worst tire for traction.I am sure on drag radials low 11s is possible.

[@CJAEY]

@blazzing4321 The Corvettes have R compound tires and the GTR doesn't. If you knew what semi-slicks felt like when compared to all season tires. The difference is huge.

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 They did chop off all that time this is true, but the ZR1 had 3 years of improvement between the first and this current time, not to mention the Z06 had 6 years, almost 7 to make those kinds of improvements. This will only be a 1 year difference. Not to mention the tires they use are pretty much the best ones available at the moment... If they wanted to make them faster it would have a lot to do with the weight... But having a nice interior and shaving weight is difficult.

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 Those numbers are a little high I think... However they are revamping the entire interior and trying to keep the same performance, so It's not like raising the prices a bit would be out of the question, I just don't think that a ZR1's price will jump up $20k compared to a fully loaded $131k one right now...

[@V8Supercar1]

@usedgoldfish: Thats not always true. The 2012 Z06 did post a slightly faster time on the Nurburgring vs. the 2012 GT-R. The GT-R should win in a straight line 1/4 mile race (mainly because its awd vs. rwd). But going around a track in and out of corners, they will be very close.

[@madtownmadman]

@blazzing4321 Actually, I think it was like 10.74. That may have been with drag radials, but it seems like he's broken into the 10's on stock tires as well.

[@morri908]

@morri908 Yeah, the 6g72 was originally in the 3000gt though.. They put it in the Eclipse because it is a decently reliable, somewhat powerful engine.

[@GuitarnScythes]

@gueropalma1990 z06 it rocks cause it's a hell of a lot lighter, is made of plastic and has 2 seats less. So the fact that there's only a 1 second difference between the two is quite an achievement for the GT-R

[@itchytasty100]

@rapinNtapin you have that all wrong the $64,000 Grandsport is the base model while the ZR1 is the top of the line model

[@kageryu311]

@Truthalive7 The only thing is you would need better brakes and suspension to match the performance of the Z06 in this vid with an 06 Z06.

[@TheHm3]

@twztd28 GM clearly said they wanted a more fuel efficient car, meaning the car WILL be extremely light. Look at other cars that are very light and has a good interior to go with it. The Gumpret Apollo, the Ferrari 458 Italia and so on. I expect the car's weight to be in the high 2,000 pounds, against the 3,400 pounds for the Zr1 right now. What are YOUR expectations?

[@barefootlumberjack]

@kageryu311 Yes, I understand that, but for you to say this is a ZR1 but without the ZR1 motor is just ridiculous, because that is the key feature of the ZR1. You are missing MY point, that if you were in the market for a Z06, which I am, it would make tons more sense to buy an 06 and put these new michelins on it, than to spend 20k more than that on a brand new one. There has been almost no change in 5 years.

[@honda12345678]

@TheRandomSanta If you don't know what a dynomometer does then you probably shouldnt run nitrous in your car. Dyno's are used for power and torque numbers put out at the tires. They can also hook up a computer measure air/fuel/ ratio's to make sure your motor is not running rich or lean with the nitrous. Your stock c5 is not set up properly to run nitrous and you'll end up burnings your valves.

[@FraAngelico729]

@twztd28 Excellent point, and you're probably right. But, the Haldex system currently in the Buick Lacrosse and Cadillac SRX look pretty trim. My question is whether or not it can handle the torque coming from the LS7, LS9, or even the LS3.

[@vettedude418]

@GuitarnScythes not with GM's new fantastic race spec TC..it even imporved the lap times of seasoned race drivers

[@MultiGogurt]

@woohoo800 it doesn't handle better because it ran a second slower on the figure 8 and its braking was 4 feet longer. the only big difference was 0-60 and that was only .7 seconds off. and by technological upgrades you mean the plastic hood scoop that says supercharger right?

[@StreetersGarage]

@345rae I think you mean 1985..same basic design for almost 30 years now

[@twztd28]

@666demonknight666 They only make the Z06 and ZR1 in 6-speed manuals, because they are supposed to give you the full on track experience, and anyone that's serious about driving, which I would assume they are if they are buying one of those, then they will want a manual. The Grandsport and base C6 both come in manual and automatic.

[@sford01]

I agree with everything about this ZO6. The aggressive exterior, stance, brutal sound, and black wheels...except (in my opinion) the tackey red stripe around them. I know a lot of people would disagree, but it is just a personal preference. An amazing and RAW car nonetheless. I love cars that need a proper driver to pilot them...it just makes the whole expierience much better when you get it right. (And I just ordered a blue 2012 GT-R) Mmm exciting :D

[@cagriffin101]

People keep saying, If you do "this" to a GTR....or If you do "this" to a Vette without thinking. If you do anything else (especially from the factory) to the car it will add weight and price. Therefore, making minimal gains and placing the car out of the target price point. Therefore, for the moment, the cars are as good as they can be for what they were designed for at that particular price point.

[@bogdan135]

@Brianiare Big and heavy? Z06 is one of the lightest cars in the class, and has very good weight distribution. I bet it's engine is lighter and more compact than Porsche flat-6, Ferrari v-8, Audi v-8 and v-10 and such. Because there's no overhead cams, it's possible to make it smaller and lighter physically than a 4L BMW v-8 engine for example. And it eats less fuel than M3.

[@twztd28]

@FraAngelico729 I think the only place it really does make a difference is when you are buying family vehicles, something you would drive year round in the snow. Not any kind sports car or super car. (Excluding the Veyron) Which I wouldn't drive year round anyway.

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 Yes it is, so was the ZR1 he runs. He does runs with both of them on DR's to.

[@genericdenizen1]

Love my Corvette Grand Sport, with its MANUAL TRANSMISSION. Purchased it over a Porsche Carerra 911, because the Corvette is more engaging and sounds phenomenal.

[@camirocz]

@flauretta how is it an overall better performer????they changed the tires and thats it the 06 ,07 were catually faster in accleration.

[@KoukiMS6]

@nithPS2 I highly doub t handling will be any better. The Z07 package adds all the suspension hardware of the ZR1, so the only real difference will be the engine.

[@twztd28]

@FraAngelico729 That brings up another good point, the Z06 is known for its 50-50 balance, an AWD system would throw that off as well.

[@kageryu311]

@HPSLUT500 I was just replying to a comment where someone said the 2012 Z06 is basically an older base model Z06 with tires. My comment hinted towards the 2012 Z06 centennial edition having similar suspension to a ZR1 with the LS7 powerplant.

[@MrCodPiece]

@Atheismrulez yes but those are a generation newer than the F1s it came with in 05', they're a huge step up

[@TheHm3]

@twztd28 Well they have STARTED in 2007, but they stopped when going through bankruptcy and restarted after the 2010 Zr1. The C6 does end in 2012, expect it in 2012 or 2013.

[@bogdan135]

@Rtree115 Not really. I've read a Porsche magazine article where they compared zr1 and gt2, and everyone, including professional race drivers, were impressed with zr1 chassis, even though it had shittier tires than gt2. Tire SIZE is really helpful here w/grip as does near perfect weight distribution and VERY LIGHT WEIGHT, plus the magnetic dampers (developed by GM, used by Ferrari now) work really well when tuned properly. Modern sports cars are pigs, and Zo6 is one of the lightest at 3100lbs.

[@geforce5591]

@Fastback91 iirc, there's something called topgear british edition.

[@twztd28]

@usedgoldfish They didn't get one lap... Nissan tests extensively at the Ring. When they went for a record run at the Ring just happened to be that day, when it was "damp". Don't say the track was wet, you could see the patches where it was a little moist. Its not like there was a torrential downpour and puddles everywhere. It's expensive to move that much equipment and people halfway across the world...

[@geforce5591]

@DeftonesFan867 The old GT-R wasn't really suitable for everyday driving but the 2012 has a comfort mode and better seats. C-net and Topgear both confirm this.

[@Blackgam3r]

@RiceKiller191 On a drag strip the downforce of the ACR works agianst it. The ACR can't get above 160 mph. Damn fast on a track though. It's the current record holder on the Nürburgring last time I checked though.

[@Dz493]

@arashn89 there is also a difference between single cam push rod to a quad cam overhead

[@qwertyadfzxcv]

Yeah, I just checked it out. They are quite closer than i thought. Can't wait for the nurburgring laptimes. I think those new tires are doing wonders for the car. 8% more grip and +20 seconds per lap of the nurburgring....

[@kageryu311]

@Truthalive7 Negative. the Z06 in this video is basically a ZR1 with Z06 fenders and the LS7.

[@cagriffin101]

@TheHm3 That's interesting. I'm not against AWD as long as it is waaaay RWD bias. So, around 30/70 or maybe even 20/80. Because of the market and other cars that GM already makes (CTS,CTS-V, Camaro) the lower costing C7 will still have to be a performer in other aspects than straight line. Mainly due to how much it costs. Honestly, I'm more interested in the Z06 than Zr1. It seems more of a drivers car, more manageable. You have to be a pro to get the most out of a Zr1.

[@wkjeepguy24]

@flamebowi actually it does for going around a track. not your straight line

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 I doubt they will dip under 2900 for any of the versions... The Gumpert Apollo does not have a good interior... Its a stripped out race car. Like a 430 Scud. The 458 is a tad over 3200lbs, which is a good bench mark I think for what they should try to achieve. I would say their benchmark for the C7 Z06 should actually be the 458...The ZR1 I think they should think bigger ;)

[@DeftonesFan867]

@geforce5591 You DO know that the Corvette has NEVER had a back seat right and that this Z06 and the ZR1 have magnaride which allows it to be comfy enough for DD right? Even a base C6 is comfy enough for that. As a matter of fact I've heard the GTR is rough as DD.

[@adelsaeed4696]

i'm not sure about that because each driver is different and their was also another driver who drove the zr1 and got a lap time of 7:38, so in the end I think it is the driver who could make the difference

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 The ZR1 always started at about $110k, the fully loaded one is around $130k. Yeah they should be as good if not better then the latest C6's, but I don't think they will be chopping 7-8 seconds off that Nurburing time anytime soon. Maybe 1 or 2, but not more then that.

[@MaxwellReviresco]

@langhbs the tires are better and stickier every where...at least that's what GM is saying. Considering their semi slicks i highly dobt they didn't improve forward traction. There's countless reasons why it's times could be what they were. Wind, altitude, temp, and I also noticed they tested at two dif places & the surface in this test wasn't the same where they tested the 2011 which was on a drag strip or they're own set up test trip, and & driver too could do it lol.

[@bliglum]

Yeah, the new GTR splits the difference between the Z06 and ZR1 in power.. But the older one (the GtR seen in most comparo vids) is the 480hp model.. But yeah, apparently the info in that Motortrend Aventador video you suggested was off.. But it seems there is some disagreement among publications on the LP700 weight.. Some say 3400, some say 3800.. then MT said 4100... I dunno, but the fact remains that Lambos have never really been known for their track prowess..

[@SimbaTheGreat]

@twztd28 I completely understand that. Im just saying even for an experiment GM could try and im not saying elimante RWD altogether im just saying have it as an option. If the ZR1 had AWD it would truly be king, not that it isnt now. But thats just my personal preference

[@kageryu311]

@HPSLUT500 And some can argue that you can get a used ZR1 for 90k. Not knocking on the fact that the Z06 Carbon is a new car.

[@twztd28]

@TheHm3 They were probably testing different aerodynamic variables... Its cheaper to use clay then forge an entire side panel or fender for something that may not even work. They could have just been checking airflow of a certain part of the car, as compared to the car as a whole. If the car has been worked on since 07' they better have a working drive-able model out by now...

[@Marc99GT]

@3XICS go read the reviews about the GTR especially the pros and cons section and almost all of them mention a CON as being rough ride. This is about the 2011 ZO6. From the April 2011 Best and Worst 2011 Cars Issue "check" and was recommended by Consumer Reports Staff Received the highest rating (up from last year) on surveyed predicted reliability. Listed at the top of the quickest list (in other news water is still wet)

[@cagriffin101]

@KoukiMS6 Oh, I'm not biased at all. At the moment, I would pick the GTR over the Vette [at least until the C7 comes :)] for multiple reasons. You make a point about 85k until you realize a Z06 stickers as low as $66,700. I'm pretty sure I can buy some tires, wheels, an exhaust kit, and some carbon fiber bits for 20 grand or less.

[@KoukiMS6]

@MrStevennizzle I agree, American auto manufacturers are definitely capable of making some great stuff. My question is, thinner leathers, plastic vs. wood, etc. also saves a lot of money. So in your opinion is weight savings their principle concern, or is money savings their principle concern? I just think they can pay a bit more attention to detail a la Audi R8.most will sacrifice a bit of performance for refinement, no?

[@FraAngelico729]

@twztd28 But I've seen enough to believe that AWD isn't necessarily the magic bullet so many people think it is with regards to performance. Sure, it's better in low traction situations, but I saw enough AWD cars on their roofs in North Dakota to convince me not to drive a nice car in bad conditions, AWD or not. And it certainly seems to make a difference off the line, but straightline performance isn't everything. It comes down to balance and power management. That's what makes a capable car.

[@camirocz]

@deadeyedickification 11.53 congrats thats excellent,Jamie furman is faster than Ranger on stock tires and a few others boast of low 11s.I d love to check all these cars really being all stock.Good year runflats are terrible for traction ,i just cant see it going 10s on those tires.I have genral tires on mine and the hook up is very good .They are non run flats.

[@IDiedForYou1776]

Normally not much for GM products especially Corvettes but this Vette is what GM should of made all along, great performance, and great interior quality....the interior especially since Chevy is a lot of the times known for their cheap interiors...good job GM please come out with more quality vehicles like this...mind you this is from a Ford fan.

[@ariell92]

@ChickenCritters its 105k with all the extra stuff they had in the model as tested there. the stock car is 75k but it has nothing and its much slower

[@TheHm3]

@NegativeNumbers427 They'll never give it up. Zo6 is a bridge connecting the Z51 Corvette and Zr1 Corvette. The 2012 Zo6 Carbon gives a serious run for the Zr1's money around a track, costing $5,000 less and having 133 horsepower less. The 2012 Zo6 Carbon did 7:22.6 around Nurburgring, while the Zr1 did only 3 seconds faster at a time of 7:19.6. Still though, the 2012 Zr1 becomes the fastest FR car on Nurburgring, and the 2012 Zo6 Carbon becomes the 3rd fastest FR car.

[@MrCodPiece]

@KoukiMS6 Hardly. Yeah the V's interior is better but your argument was that the Vette's interior didn't have any thought put into it. But Alcantara is just a covering requiring no more effort than straight leather, which this review car is covered in. If my defense lacks depth yours is just null on most fronts. Hell you pointed out the floor like it was just wood like a skateboard instead of the balsa-carbon fiber sandwich it really is. And I even gave you the seats as a given.

[@bogdan135]

@rforracing Porsche uses the same tires on GT3, GT3 RS, GT2 and GT2 RS. (Different sizes of course)

[@TheHm3]

@twztd28 Hey you, look. There's a problem, the GT-R is at the Zo6's price (480 horsepower version) but has better performance. I think this is what the C7 should do for the Zo6 standard, make it on par with the GT-R MKI. The Zo6 Carbon should go on par with the GT-R MKII. And the Zr1 C7 should be at the top of the hill, fighting against Ferrari Enzo and Mosler MT900, at the price of only $150,000 or a bit higher.

[@RiceKiller191]

@HPSLUT500 True, but the GTR also ran the Ring wet. The tires that come with the Z07 package are some of the best, if not the best, track tires you can buy and really help it pull some good track times. The GTR ran all the tests on Eagle F1's I believe, which are far from comparable to the Cups on the Z. I'm sure with the same Cup tires the GTR would beat or match the Z06 around the ring and Laguna, but the Z will still pull more G's. Both have pro's and cons, and both are astonishing cars.

[@DEMediaDrive]

This is the Corvette I want! Awesome car! Thank you Chevy!

[@TheHm3]

@twztd28 LATEST ON C7: LMR TT Zr1 drove into GM's wind tunnel, they drove up to clay Corvette c7 1/3rd done and 2014 Camaro full. GM covered up the story as much as they could and all they told the guys was that the C7 was long to go into production and had a lot of body issues to fix. There's no way the C7 will be out by Q-3 2012. Probably in mid 2013 as 2014 model.

[@FraAngelico729]

@KoukiMS6 Not the 'old guard', you're right. But GM might sacrifice one market segment for another. How about a 4.0L OHC V8 with variable timing, AWD and/or forced induction optional, and coil springs at all four corners? A lot of people out there saying they'd go Vette if they'd change their formula. I wouldn't do this for its own sake, but it might be fun to merge the innovations found in current Vette models with some of the more generally accepted ideals of current engineering. Cool, huh?

[@Texan972]

@studiojack you don't know much about tires. Tires are one the most important factors in acceleration, cornering and braking. Do note that other manufacturers use the pilot sport cup tires and they do make a hell of a difference.

[@twztd28]

@StuRaz Maybe I'll go visit the dealership this weekend and see if I can sit in both and drive them... Then website doesn't do it much justice from what you're saying haha. I've been in a heavily tuned 996 Turbo. That's it for my Porsche experience though.

[@TheHm3]

@twztd28 But they drove up to the C7 that was only a 1/3rd finished though. It was 33.333333% finished!! How can it be out so soon? But I can't wait for what GM has in store for us for the C7. The C6 LS engine series was just amazing. But can you explain why the clay model was only 33% finished? Please explain... further....

[@MrCodPiece]

@KoukiMS6 Don't let the displacement fool you, the engine is in fact new, it's not a 30 year old mill. You imply the streering wheel is lazy and/or cheap because it's shared with lesser cars, but since the wheel trickled down that doesn't make any damn sense. The wheel was designed for the corvette and then applied elsewhere, how's that lazy? Ever seen the wheel of a 911 without the sport chrono pack? It's the same layout minus the controls. No ones ever complained about the ergonomics of it.

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@cagriffin101 According to GM it starts at 74.5k, but yes you could add pieces to it for 20k, but I thought I clearly read you say not to say you could add this or that, or are my eyes mistaking me. The point is best performance for dollar rolled off the lot, as you previously stated. And honestly, you can't get this performance off the lot without paying 100k or more. As far as I am concerned I'd pop for the next Porsche though.