We Americans are always complaining. I have a 2013 LT and still loving it. And I intend to keep it for the rest of my life.
@chifupapi9 ай бұрын
Thinking fo getting a 2013 with 59k miles for 21k
@revealislam-christianprinc64788 ай бұрын
@@chifupapidon't buy, bought mine recently and now having engine issues
@artvandellay5 ай бұрын
@@revealislam-christianprinc6478either you got a molested one or no one did maintenance on it. You have to deliberately try to fuck up a 5.3
@blacksrt37913 жыл бұрын
I have a loaded 2013 Tahoe Ltz heavy duty package. Went to test drive 2021 Tahoe and left without buying, jst a huge smile on my face that mine is better in every single way plus it’s payed off and not costing me 70k
@alanmcnew323311 жыл бұрын
Good review, but I must point out that you failed to mention anything about the off-road capabilities of this vehicle....Most notably, the 4-wheel drive, handling in snow and mud, wet conditions, and the overall capabilities of severe weather conditions. Tahoe is known for its ability to tackle some of the most rugged terrain.... That's another reason people buy this vehicle, not just for towing/hauling.
@automan143210 жыл бұрын
My fav generation tahoe. I am so gonna miss this generation of the Tahoe.
@elcanbu561010 жыл бұрын
My fav also, I wish I had the opportunity to own one of these at least with sunroof :)
@reginald5086 жыл бұрын
I’m not getting rid of mine
@robertbarber73435 жыл бұрын
@@reginald508 Still got mine.
@_thebusphotograher_cali4 жыл бұрын
Automan14: I drove this generation and it’s actually decent gas mileage
@gascencio944 жыл бұрын
@@reginald508 same 👍
@sunnyray519111 жыл бұрын
IDK, I didn't buy this to feel like I'm king of the road. I bought it to feel safe on the road with my family. Also, this SUV is great for traveling with young children and all the stuff we need to lug along for them as well as our 2 dogs in tow. :/ Happy with our 2013 Tahoe.
@iRotiz10 жыл бұрын
"Safe" perhaps you should look up the statistics on how "safe" SUV'S are. You'd be safer in a Fiat.
@randomfoo77710 жыл бұрын
iRotiz the bigger danger are the other vehicles/crazy drivers around you. so what happens when a Large truck hits a Fiat? yeah, i'll stick with the bigger vehicle
@hughjanus702910 жыл бұрын
iRotiz the rating are for that class of cars fiats won't compare to suvs in terms of saftey
@truckernation78864 жыл бұрын
I drive a tank so move out my way
@ikedichukwuchesa4133 жыл бұрын
How would you compare this with the 2012/13 Volvo XC90 V8?
@williamduckworth3052 жыл бұрын
here in 2022, they are still around. i have a 2014 ltz loaded for the time period. todays large suvs are either priced in the 80s and up for a nice one...this suv fills a nich. big safe , nice ride, leather, towing. all good
@gmman0109839 жыл бұрын
Gas prices has not stop these from selling a ton of These...js
@b.ellerrr6 жыл бұрын
While I was watching this I passed 3 Tahoes, While in a Tahoe
@form10910 жыл бұрын
the only Flaw on this Generation Tahoe is the Interior quality,the plastics are just bad and that's not hate it's a fact. in these years it was common for the dashes to crack horrendously and it was a widespread problem. everything else about this truck is great. they're not potently fast but they're quick enough and they're pretty quiet on the road and ride pretty good id take one. and in my opinion the styling on these looks better than the new ones.
@theredline11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brooks, we must say the current Tahoe still drives nice despite its age. The redesigned model should address most of our concerns with the older models. What kind of MPG do you guys average? Are you able to meet the EPA estimates?
@1m-a-n1nja7 жыл бұрын
I grew up with a Suburban, and my first car was a Volvo XC90. I drove that for a long time before it became an unreliable pos. I started driving my Suburban again, and after going from the Chevy to the Volvo and back to the Chevy again, you realise how much more comfortable, reliable, practical, powerful, etc the Chevy actually is even with its MPG and size. I feel most people think that the Suburban or Tahoe is too big for them but the truth is that after a few weeks of driving it, parking lots, parallel parking space, cities, etc are never a noticeable challenge. One thing I love about my Suburban is the size and aggressive nature of it since it is basically a truck. I am from Alaska, and in the summer our population basically doubles due to tourists. Our roads clog up, and many people who don’t understand our driving culture will create the jams. I am by no means an aggressive driver all the time, but considering my commute is an hour and a half, having a giant Suburban (nothing was modified, that just how great it was) roaring up the rental Malibu’s ass on the highway at 80 MPH is a huge plus. They just move out of the way 😂😂. Often to avoid aggression I realise they will actually signal much sooner to get you to back off and show you that they will move for you lol. My Suburban - which keep in mind was given to me when I sold my Volvo and was my childhood car belonging to my mom - has reached over 500k miles, so I’m looking to replace it with a Tahoe/Yukon, hence why I’m watching this video, I can’t afford a new one haha, I’m starting out! They are also great for this weather!
@ryanlaroche88443 жыл бұрын
Been watching you for yrs. You're my favorite person to watch when it comes to auto reviews.
@jamak919nc2 жыл бұрын
Same
@aguilar820824 жыл бұрын
This review is just very negative! These Tahoes are still going strong now!
@theredline11 жыл бұрын
We were actually thinking about getting those, they are just not quite available yet... at least in our area
@omarzowila5 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about getting a 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Z71 that I found on Facebook marketplace for my first car
@KR_Diecasts10 жыл бұрын
5.3 sounds awesome! It is indeed soft on acceleration and rode awesome I drove a yukon xl and this driving portion of the video pretty much described my experience to the tee
@Indian21ubet7 ай бұрын
I just paid cash for a 07 tahoe LTZ , I had to put about $1,600 into it ,tires ,new rotors headlights ,,sensors ,,,,runs fantastic all in under $5k Very happy with it runs great ,
@ToxicWareProductions10 жыл бұрын
Small navigation screen? To be honest, it looks rather standard for most vehicles.
@ToxicWareProductions10 жыл бұрын
I don't drive a Prius, thank you very much. I drive something more, driver orientated. Something far more expensive than a stupid hybrid.
@cruzjorge06410 жыл бұрын
Jordan are you a girl 😍
@ToxicWareProductions10 жыл бұрын
Jorge408 Yes.
@ToxicWareProductions10 жыл бұрын
Jorge408 Thanks. lol
@cruzjorge06410 жыл бұрын
Jordan according to my calculations you seem beautiful and are you a light skin also lol ? 😊
@AJ_764218 жыл бұрын
No remote start? My grandfather has that exact Tahoe in red and he has remote start. Pretty sure the Tahoe's and suburbans were some of the first vehicles to get remote start as an option from the factory. Might wanna do your research before you throw around stuff like that bud.
@vivahernando16 жыл бұрын
remote start and power folding mirrors were on certain model Tahoes since 2012
@A20TV6 жыл бұрын
Andy C These have had optional remote start since 2007
@MKingDMV5 жыл бұрын
Remote Start comes with the LT & LTZ models
@xfiringsquadx Жыл бұрын
I own a 2013 Tahoe Z71. It looks almost identical to the one in this video except it has a chrome grill, bowtie logos are regular gold color, and the interior is the grey/beige. That said, some interesting things I noticed was that mine does have grab handles in the front. A couple of my common passengers wouldn't be able to get in without them. Surprised the one in this video didn't. Another odd thing I noticed about mine is that the battery is relocated to the "extra" battery spot. Haven't figured out why yet.
@ACEcolorado111 жыл бұрын
Tahoes are actually probably one of my favorite products from GM..All lot of my friends' families owned these and the ride was so comfortable and were perfect for long trips. In fact one of them owned one a 1996 for 16 years
@AllUNeedMotors11 жыл бұрын
That's the thing. There are many people who are being wasteful having big SUV's, but there is also a large crowd who is greatly helped by SUV's.
@MarcelloTheBandit11 жыл бұрын
You would hate to ride with me Sofyan. We went from a Ford Escort wagon to a Tahoe and after 8 years, it has surprised me as to how nimble it is for a gigantic land tank, and how easy it is to cruise on the highway. As for the steering wheel, if you think that's thin, you should have seen the generation before this (that's what we have). My brother found out that if you cross your legs, you can fit in the 3rd row better also. ;)
@05Forenza11 жыл бұрын
Sofyan, I LOVED the section mid video, no talking, just feeling your road rage toward that Crown Vic lol. I was thinking, "beep at him!"
@NEONPARADlSE11 жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 z71 suburban as a second vehicle and I love it. I can't wait until I can upgrade to a 2010+ one. But I am sick of people saying how I don't need it. People whine about how people don't NEED these full size, v8 SUVs. It's not about what I need. Its about what I WANT. Do people need luxury cars? Do people need sports cars? No. So get off your soapbox. Nice review though! They look good in white.
@santi6558 Жыл бұрын
Me here in 2023 hearing complaining abaut gas prices 🤣
@AmgAleem10 жыл бұрын
Ford Expedition: 5.4 liter v8, 310hp and 365 lb ft of torque. Best in class towing; 0-60 in 7.5-8 seconds. Chevy Tahoe: 5.3 liter v8, 320hp and 335 lb ft of torque. 5% better fuel economy, 0-60 in 8-9 seconds. I'll take the expedition.
@joreyasmus76765 жыл бұрын
Did he just say they were gonna replace the Tahoe well it’s six years later and it’s still here.
@hoodclipsinc50555 жыл бұрын
Jorey Asmus he meant with a new redesign
@ricofrmdwndastreet7486Ай бұрын
Where can I find that same back seat center storage?
@jenniferetter81353 жыл бұрын
Listening to this is 2021 when you can't even get your hands on one used and the new ones are 85k is laughable.
@brorowcarwiz11 жыл бұрын
Yes actually! Don't forget we have the 2wd version, so less weight. 17.1 is the average. Not too shabby. My hope is that GM moves the infotainment center to the top of the center console as in the Silverado.
@kellyaustin74875 жыл бұрын
I really like these large people movers personally. I do wish GM would use more softer dash and side panel materials rather than the hard clanky plastics they currently use. Possibly a supercharger on this motor standard would be nice. All in all I still like the this tank.
@mojorisin73716 жыл бұрын
Old school motor but sounds smoother and more refined then even Toyota's 5.7 GM sould have been just a engine manufacturer. Everything else is dated cookie cutter nonsense, with all that money you'd think they'd spend it on good quality and ideas, this thing was redesigned and still has a solid axle and tight 3rd row, talk about GM arrogance. Even Toyota's are going that route too, look at the dated overly priced full sized SUV not named Landcruiser. Too bad noone who really wants to make a difference in this segment other then Ford's late efforts, is stepping up the antie.
@lutetiavollintine24666 жыл бұрын
GM HAS BEEN SELLING A TON OF CHEVROLET TAHOES AND I'M GONNA GET ONE SOON BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT MONTH YET
@1m-a-n1nja7 жыл бұрын
Also it may not have push button start, but 2010 Tahoe’s and newer came standard with Chevy MyLink and has remote Start from your phone.
@form10911 жыл бұрын
wonder if the cracking dash issues in these trucks was fixed
@declinetostate.82995 жыл бұрын
do you put unleaded or premium in cars like these?
@Natashacivic211 жыл бұрын
i love the ending XD you should put all bloopers in one video :)
@b.ellerrr6 жыл бұрын
Who cares about gas prices people will always buy SUVs Trucks could get phased out but SUVs will live on
@corvette156810 жыл бұрын
Well one of my neighbors she just got a 2014 or i think it's a 2014. Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ in black. But i am suprice that she did not get the all new 2015 one. But oh well. I think they are giving very good deals on the 2014 ones since they want to get rid of them fast. So they can make room for the all new 2015 ones. And i kind of thinking she does not like the look of the new ones!!
@chevyking1011 жыл бұрын
the things is all the reviews on the internet are just about good things about cars whereas this guy is doing the review differently
@103eaglecrest11 жыл бұрын
"It makes a pretty nice sound." The guy seems shocked. Forced to drive little rice burners," the car (truck) has a much different feel to what I'm used to driving." Big V8 and silky smooth transmission can't be beat. It is truly a shame to what most consumers are forced to drive these days (econo-boxes) with gas prices hovering around $3.50-$4.00 a gallon. It is nice to actually have your own space in a vehicle without feeling like your passengers are sitting on top of you.
@FIREPHILSPENCER6 жыл бұрын
The Tahoe/suburban has and always will be the best fullsize suv.
@genny24093 жыл бұрын
Best generation ever
@demetrioclipper11 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work. The way you review cars is perfect. The information you give of each model, is what the regular guy is looking for. I like how you review each model pretty much the same. It's perfect if you in the market for either model. Therefore I can see how they compare with each other. One of he best out there. Keep up the great work.
@brorowcarwiz11 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I was impressed by your review Sofyan. After 10k miles on our 2013 Z71, we've been happy. We actually love the third row arrangement, with its ability to flip and fold in different configurations. In fact, we prefer it over the flush fold in other vehicles.
@darkzoom6181 Жыл бұрын
it’s ten years later and i’m thinking about buying one of these. are you still impressed with it?
@jstew494111 ай бұрын
I LOVE MY 2010 TAHOE 4X4 LT3.. GREAT JUST BROUGHT IT LOW MILES.. TRADED MY NEW CAR FOR IT.. CARS PAST 2014 ARE JUNK.. MY 2018 WAS COOL BUT LONG TERM WAS GONNA BE EXPENSIVE TO FIX..
@niclna8 жыл бұрын
Oh! It's you again, You keep on saying "old school". Old school this old school that. The same way you do the expedition and E150 review. So why bither to do a review dude.
@apple_cider12078 жыл бұрын
+niclna old school this old school that old school va fangool
@jarekjellison8178 жыл бұрын
Why "bither" to learn grammar? And these are old vehicles, but that is not his final opinion on the vehicle. Please come back when you are educated.
@niclna8 жыл бұрын
Jarek Jellison it's a typo error smart ass and it's not "grammar", it's a spelling..it should be " bother"
@apple_cider12078 жыл бұрын
jesus fucking christ you two.
@MrWay2green8 жыл бұрын
Spoiler from the future, Nissan hasn't killed off the Titan.
@m.almesri12211 жыл бұрын
Tohoe 2013 more better the 2015
@montherkanaan154810 жыл бұрын
.you are right
@rafaelbanderas1016 жыл бұрын
Nah
@MegaZombieland123411 жыл бұрын
could you do a video of a excursion ? if you get one in
@ACEcolorado111 жыл бұрын
and I knew nobody who had an Expedition
@bfg649911 жыл бұрын
Hey sofyan im 14 and i was just wondering if a mustang is a safe car because alot of people from my parents generation got those kinda cars as teens please respond
@robertschneider339110 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong this is a nice SUV but I would rather take a ford expedition limited.
@YourLocalFireAlarmTech10 жыл бұрын
Same here
@cruzjorge06410 жыл бұрын
Ford Is Best. I'd rather take the GMC Yukon😍😍
@jhugo19868 жыл бұрын
nah not really. those older 5.4L engines have a lot of issues. plus the tahoe holds its value better.
@Adamjones200211 жыл бұрын
Can you make a review of the new Chevrolet Traverse ? Great reviews btw :D
@jones22d4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually thinking about getting one
@TERRYBRADFORD16 жыл бұрын
what kind of salesman is this? I drive a Chevy Tahoe and I love it!!!!
@dillonh3214 жыл бұрын
He is a critic not a salesman.
@truckernation78864 жыл бұрын
He’s a millennial.
@Baby110ish11 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Tahoes in general but why does this man diss it like when he talks about the keys being old fashion & saying that the car doesn't have the start BUTTON. Like c'mon man just stop dissing it & present it the way it's supposed to or don't get paid at all.
@iRotiz11 жыл бұрын
Why do Women love huge trucks?
@consciouspirate11 жыл бұрын
Because it is outdated and irrelevant.
@BalboBagginsYT11 жыл бұрын
Because hes a CRITIC
@1DrunkSocialite11 жыл бұрын
You clearly don't know much about new cars today. You can get a Nissan Sentra or Ford Focus with push button start, keyless entry, led DRLs, and a back up camera for under 20k. This big old thing is just outdated. All those things were once reserved for luxury cars that can now come cheap.
@1DrunkSocialite11 жыл бұрын
brutus64 My only point is that these once "luxury" features are now being offered on economy cars and this truck doesn't have any of them. Its time to bring this Tahoe up to par. Which I think they will with the 2014/15 year model.
@ravenger1711 жыл бұрын
Ill probably never need a Tahoe (or any full sized SUV) but ive always been fond of its looks
@ethanmoore377411 жыл бұрын
I love SUVs and will always defend them.
@WarthogRacer11 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the Tahoe also compete with the Durango?
@form10911 жыл бұрын
2theredline on the other hand is a hands on review they go over the most important things without dragging to a very long video,personal opinions are given and youll notice thats when people start bitching,they pretty much tell it how it is so i dont take offense to it, like how they keep it real. And thats the main appeal to me. Yeah they have been critical with cars i like and its blunt to a fault but i dont get butthurt about it and start spewing shit.
@raychat28167 жыл бұрын
First of all, even Jeremy Clarkson would've like this all American truck better. I'm sorry but u were reviewing this truck as if u are reviewing a Lamborghini Sesto Elemento and complaining that it's not built for off road use. Has it occurred to you that some ppl want a good platform for a big off road vehicle ?, thankfully some are still made with solid axles, at least in the back, and customizable !!!, and don't have 4 wheel independent suspension with 6,7cm of suspension travel and a hoard of software making it go faster on the Nürburg ring than some sports cars. want one of those ? get yourself a Range Rover, Porsche Cayenne, BMW X6, make your pick, American car makers shouldn't try to follow Europeans in SUV land, they'd simply never match them, people will always prefer to buy the better vehicle, let them make TRUCKS. Today's trucks are already too bound by software, luckily still by-passable to make a great truck, however when u have hardware made like European SUVs, software will never make it good. Nobody's forcing one to buy a crossover ... yet, thankfully, so just leave trucks to those who need and love them I HAVE witnessed an acquaintance go completely MENTAL, mmMAAAAD at her brand new Range Rover Sport for continuously trying to "sort things out" for her even with Terrain response properly "disabled", utterly ruining our day,finally, reached in the engine fuse box and took off fuse 21 powering DSC and ABS, restraining this SUV from taking further bad decisions all on it's own and interfering like a kid who has no idea how to drive ...day was over and fuse inserted back once home, ran perfectly well on the road for the year that followed ... that however was last year, gave up on it, sold it, now happily living with a customized Wrangler, and sad at the idea that 2018 Wranglers will be loosing their off road FUN worth ... for something "less human/more civil", u choose the marketing term, the reality of it being called, a FUN siphoning head ache.
@jldubz111 жыл бұрын
all of that circling you do in the beginning did make me a bit dizzy.
@jaylonmichael73811 жыл бұрын
Sorry fingers to big iPhone can you do a video on 2014 chevy impala ltz with exhaust
@bleachman900011 жыл бұрын
Those third rear seats fold down then upwards, like when you're trying to access the third row from the second row.
@ethanmoore377411 жыл бұрын
I prefer the GMC Yukon but omg, the newer generation Yukon Denali is soooooooooo cool looking. It's a wonderful refresh. And I'm telling you, that car looks sexy. Check it out on gmc's website
@SantiagoFigueroaRojo199911 жыл бұрын
please do a review on a 2013 Traverse
@Metcalf429711 жыл бұрын
Could you test drive the chevy suburban please
@jstew494110 ай бұрын
These things are in demand all over east coast.. 2007 to 14.. Last of LEGENDARY Suv.. Dinosaurs are only way to go 💪
@jeepguy9511 жыл бұрын
Well it has a low range, but it must be very hard to steer and shift through the gears at the same time. I hope GM offers some new V6 like Ford's EcoBoost that will boost sales a bit...
@NubletPie27811 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I'd be able to watch it if it hadn't processed. I can't watch mine until they've processed. Also, I didn't know certain resolutions process before others.
@form10911 жыл бұрын
love the little blooper bit on the end lmao.
@Rtvoll11 жыл бұрын
It was a good truck back in 07 but they are seriously outdated now. They are roomy and fairly reliable with the vortec V8 but still.. Anyways the new generation is right around the corner and with how much GM has been improving lately (14 impala, corvette, ect) I hope the next generation tahoe fixes that cracking dash problem.
@Singh1152111 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a review of the 2013 Acura MDX
@jaylonmichael73811 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on c2
@moneymakingman200011 жыл бұрын
their is never going to be a perfect car, just face it. i understand its his opinion, but he puts EVERY car down, but when he reviewed his own Volkswagen Golf its was just the best frickin car ever
@ToyMcahine11 жыл бұрын
can you please review the 2013 Honda CR Z?
@Jakeman2164211 жыл бұрын
I just found out last night they still make the Tahoe hybrid. YEAH 6 liter V8 hybrid!
@mr._durden_ Жыл бұрын
I own one. I just bought a 5.3l v8 Tahoe LTZ to replace it
@Cleaning_Hero4 жыл бұрын
And now you can get one in the $40’s new. Unless you find that big dealer that has too many left at the end of the year. Still would only get you the base bare-bones model.
@lunicify11 жыл бұрын
Do a review of a chevy sonic
@lexusfan10011 жыл бұрын
how about doing a volvo s80
@Fadic48 жыл бұрын
I want to buy 5 blacked out Chevy tahoes and just drive to places in them.
@brorowcarwiz11 жыл бұрын
Exactly. As a family of four, according to most journalists, we SHOULD be in a large crossover. But, its not what we want :P
@b.ellerrr7 жыл бұрын
5:14 he ripped it open there is a button for a reason
@carlosmendoza7914 жыл бұрын
Lmao he broke the button
@jamak919nc2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣💀
@clock95911 жыл бұрын
hey sofyan,,,have u ever thought about using google glass to shoot these vids? :-D
@Moneyman771011 жыл бұрын
GM is planning on replacing the tahoe?! Why?
@daniel5564511 жыл бұрын
if they could make these with good mileage (which i know they can because the terrain gets 30+ highway) i would buy one of these for sure. yes i know you would surrender good tow capacity and torque, but you'd still be able to haul the people you need to with good mileage
@alfu886811 жыл бұрын
Sofian, what a treat. I love this truck.
@فوازشموه11 ай бұрын
I will buy it soon
@form10911 жыл бұрын
people please stop comparing saabkyle04 to 2theredline....now me personally i dont mind either channel,theyre both quite good. Saabkyle is more of an very detailed overview with facts and specs throughout not quite a review,he does drive some of the cars but imo his opinions have to be tastefully muted as he promotes dealers and cant be to offensive.
@LandOfTheFreeMediaBlogspot11 жыл бұрын
Excellent job with this review Sofyan. I must admit that the Tahoe Z71 is indeed not bad at all for what it offers :) - Michael Land
@Rtvoll11 жыл бұрын
What does that have to do with anything? He was just telling dave dunn that he noticed in a review he watched that the new GM trucks use white colored gages.
@kingkoopa37795 жыл бұрын
just a really nice tahoe with the STRONG MOTOR THE 5.3L
@furiahispanica3823 Жыл бұрын
People still have families, these are great for families, not all parents drive minivans.
@MrTblackmon10 жыл бұрын
I liked the previous generation Tahoe and this current generation Tahoe, but this current Tahoe has too much plastic and here and there are "soft touch interior materials" plastics -- where it need to be -- armrest, doors and seats -- but falls short on the dashboard and bottom portion of the doors, that is why i favor Cadillac Escalade when it comes down to that. Well, at least, Escalade Platinum, and as for the 2015 Tahoe, from the B-pillar on back the vehicle is nice, but the front end is hideous.
@chek1n9 жыл бұрын
+Kool Acclaimed™ the 2007-2014 years looks the nicest and meanest with the exterior while the new 2015's have a much better interior
@GruntJournalist11 жыл бұрын
Could you review more Volvos? Particularly the XC60. I would love to hear your opinion on that!
@camshaft5314911 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a large SUV or truck than a sports car any day. Can't wait till I can find me a nice diesel excursion or even an expedition or one of these guys.
@bmbrdh11 жыл бұрын
does this come 4x4
@willpearce05189711 жыл бұрын
Please do a 4th gen Toyota 4Runner!
@killer50515211 жыл бұрын
Now you guys, how many times do I have to tell you. Gay people aren't always the most open minded. He may have a lot of not so good things to say about well built American vehicles, but that's his fault for being so close minded. It's not our fault he's gay.